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Deciding Where to Go => Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses => Topic started by: thinkbig on August 14, 2009, 02:10:12 PM

Title: Cooley: one of the greats
Post by: thinkbig on August 14, 2009, 02:10:12 PM
Cooley law school is better ranked than Stanford, Chicago, Berkeley.......

http://www.cooley.edu/rankings/overall2008.htm
Title: Re: Cooley: one of the greats
Post by: Crimson:devil(red) on August 16, 2009, 09:22:10 AM
Check out these rankings which are derived from a complex algorithm which depends entirely on my own personal opinion:

1.           Tulane
2(Tie).  All other law schools
Title: Re: Cooley: one of the greats
Post by: gzl on August 16, 2009, 11:59:34 AM
I read on another thread that Cooley used factors like the square footage of their library to come up with their rankings.  I thought it was a bit of sarcasm. It wasn't.  Some of the factors they consider (not sure how it's all weighted):

Total Volumes in Library
Total Titles in Library
Total Serial Subscriptions
Total of Professional Librarians
Library Hours per Week with Professional Staff
Total Library Hours per Week
Library Seating Capacity
Number of Networked Computers Available for Use by Students
Library Total Square Footage


I'm disappointed in Cooley's lack of inventiveness.  If they considered the number of janitors employed in library clean up, or the total surface area of desk-top space available to use for study... or SOMETHING, I'm sure they could have placed themselves above Harvard and the like.
Title: Re: Cooley: one of the greats
Post by: cpierce11 on August 16, 2009, 09:20:55 PM
The rating system at Cooley is just bogus. It totally different then the US News rankings. It is referred to as Judging the Law Schools now in its Tenth Edition. What is even more messed about it that the people that made this ranking according to Cooley website is Thomas E Brennan and Don LeDuc. Do you know who Don LeDuc is? He is dean of Cooley Law School and is involved in the rankings that they use.
Title: Re: Cooley: one of the greats
Post by: Ninja1 on August 18, 2009, 09:38:17 PM
Cooley's rankings are the principle reason most people talk *&^% about them. FFT.
Title: Re: Cooley: one of the greats
Post by: MauveAvenger on August 21, 2009, 10:20:41 AM
I read on another thread that Cooley used factors like the square footage of their library to come up with their rankings.  I thought it was a bit of sarcasm. It wasn't.  Some of the factors they consider (not sure how it's all weighted):

Total Volumes in Library
Total Titles in Library
Total Serial Subscriptions
Total of Professional Librarians
Library Hours per Week with Professional Staff
Total Library Hours per Week
Library Seating Capacity
Number of Networked Computers Available for Use by Students
Library Total Square Footage


I'm disappointed in Cooley's lack of inventiveness.  If they considered the number of janitors employed in library clean up, or the total surface area of desk-top space available to use for study... or SOMETHING, I'm sure they could have placed themselves above Harvard and the like.

I didn't believe that seating capacity was a factor. Then I checked.

Library Seating Capacity - To study, a student needs a place to sit. The more crowded a library, the more likely it will not be able to serve as a resource to the entire student body.

That's their actual explanation.
Title: Re: Cooley: one of the greats
Post by: Ninja1 on August 21, 2009, 05:33:43 PM
I read on another thread that Cooley used factors like the square footage of their library to come up with their rankings.  I thought it was a bit of sarcasm. It wasn't.  Some of the factors they consider (not sure how it's all weighted):

Total Volumes in Library
Total Titles in Library
Total Serial Subscriptions
Total of Professional Librarians
Library Hours per Week with Professional Staff
Total Library Hours per Week
Library Seating Capacity
Number of Networked Computers Available for Use by Students
Library Total Square Footage


I'm disappointed in Cooley's lack of inventiveness.  If they considered the number of janitors employed in library clean up, or the total surface area of desk-top space available to use for study... or SOMETHING, I'm sure they could have placed themselves above Harvard and the like.

I didn't believe that seating capacity was a factor. Then I checked.

Library Seating Capacity - To study, a student needs a place to sit. The more crowded a library, the more likely it will not be able to serve as a resource to the entire student body.

That's their actual explanation.

Also an easy factor to boost when you have 3 campuses...

Cooley does make for a good study in how you can game stats to make them say whatever you want.
Title: Re: Cooley: one of the greats
Post by: JDat45 on November 28, 2009, 03:19:21 PM
Check out these rankings which are derived from a complex algorithm which depends entirely on my own personal opinion:

1.           Tulane
2(Tie).  All other law schools


Looks at Crimson's Avatar then exclaims: HA!!!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Cooley: one of the greats
Post by: JDat45 on November 28, 2009, 04:05:02 PM
I've never heard of Cooley before joining this board. I just visited their webpage, and I actually feel sad for them. How embarrassing...the factors they use to justify their "ranking".

I cry for Cooley, I cry  :'(
Title: Re: Cooley: one of the greats
Post by: nerfco on December 22, 2009, 01:53:18 AM
There have been a couple times I went to the library to study, and could not find a seat (or at least, my own table--there are two chairs per table). I wish I had gone to Cooley; I would have had a place to sit. :(

But seriously, their rankings are terrible, and I feel bad for any students mislead by their rankings to choose Cooley over better schools, or to attend law school in the first place based on their Cooley acceptance and its rank.
Title: Re: Cooley: one of the greats
Post by: HR6352 on December 30, 2009, 06:50:16 PM
Wow, I was happy to get into Chicago but now I see that they're two spots behind Chicago-Kent on the Cooley rankings.  Does anybody know if it's too late to apply there?  I'm guessing 21 Layola is out of my range.   ;D
Title: Re: Cooley: one of the greats
Post by: Pardon Johnny Cash. on December 31, 2009, 06:43:10 AM
You know what'd actually be interesting...  If other TTT's started to game the Cooley rankings.  Only Cooley receives mockery because they're the creators of this absurd calculus.  But of course, no one blames Chicago-Kent for fairing well in it.  So if you're Appalachian College of Law, why not buy a bunch of cheap chairs at the Dollar General?  If you're successful, you'll end up on mailings which receive at the house of nearly every prospective law student.
Title: Re: Cooley: one of the greats
Post by: nerfco on December 31, 2009, 02:18:35 PM
You know what'd actually be interesting...  If other TTT's started to game the Cooley rankings.  Only Cooley receives mockery because they're the creators of this absurd calculus.  But of course, no one blames Chicago-Kent for fairing well in it.  So if you're Appalachian College of Law, why not buy a bunch of cheap chairs at the Dollar General?  If you're successful, you'll end up on mailings which receive at the house of nearly every prospective law student.

Cooley actually mails this stuff out? I never received and, but maybe they just didn't send it to me as I was in Canada. (I did receive a lot of mail from Valparaiso and Regent, among others.)