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Law Students => Incoming 1Ls => Topic started by: lawness on August 06, 2009, 04:56:56 PM

Title: schedule and missing class
Post by: lawness on August 06, 2009, 04:56:56 PM
Is there no fall break in law school? Also, what are the ramifictions for missing class in law school? I know it's not a good idea but if you miss a Friday and Monday, are you going to be seriously behind?
Title: Re: schedule and missing class
Post by: big - fat - box on August 06, 2009, 10:31:40 PM
If your school starts early, you get a short break for Labor Day. If you have class on Columbus day, class will be canceled. Then everyone usually gets a couple days or up to a week for Thanksgiving. At most schools, 1st semester finals are before Winter/Xmas break.

Ramifications? Depends on the school. Some require attendance and will drop you from a particular course if you miss more than the specified number of days allowed. Many other schools do not require attendance at all. Basically, you show up if you feel like it.

Behind? Depends. Many schools do not have classes on Friday. Or only certain sections have Friday classes. Not everyone gets a lot out of class...some do better studying on their own. That's why many people who do come to class surf the internet during class...or it could also depend on the prof. If the prof doesn't mesh with your learning style, missing class might not be a big deal.

In general, I wouldn't get to caught up in taking a bunch of four day weekends. Even if attendance is not required at your school and you don't get much out of class, it's probably to your benefit to spend some time studying on the weekends.
Title: Re: schedule and missing class
Post by: RobWreck on August 07, 2009, 06:01:04 AM
If I'm not mistaken, the ABA has a requirement for approved law schools about how many hours a student must be in class. I know at my school you're allowd to miss 1 hour of lecture for every credit the class is worth... so generally, you can miss 2 class sessions. Exceeding this can be groudns for being denied the opportunity to take the final exam, although I've never heard about that actually being applied or enforced. Some teachers took attendance each day by sign-in sheet, others did it by observation and seating chart, and yet others couldn't care less.
The real impact is on what you miss by not being there. Sometimes things will be discussed in class that aren't in the reading assignments - 1 of my 4 Torts I essays was literally a restatement of a case the teacher talked about on the 2nd-to-last day of class. It wasn't in any of the assigned readings, nor was the case name actually given to us... but he laid it out plain and clear and explained the reasoning behind it. For those of us in class paying attention that day, it was an easy question - but if you weren't there that day and didn't get good notes from someone else, it would have been a nightmare.
Missing class here and there when it's unavoidable happens... but as long as you're only talking about missing a minimal amount and as long as you're diligent in getting the notes and reviewing the material, it's not the end of the world.
Good luck...
Title: Re: schedule and missing class
Post by: lawness on August 07, 2009, 07:29:09 AM
That's kinda what I thought. I am trying to go somewhere for Halloween and if I remember correctly from ugrad, there was a fall break! It won't be the end of the world if I don't go and I don't have to decide right now, so we will wait and see.
Title: Re: schedule and missing class
Post by: likewise on August 07, 2009, 04:08:27 PM
ABA requires a minimum 80% attendance. Some enforce; some do not. Some schools and some professor have even tougher reqs.
Title: Re: schedule and missing class
Post by: Marmot on August 09, 2009, 12:30:14 AM
That's kinda what I thought. I am trying to go somewhere for Halloween and if I remember correctly from ugrad, there was a fall break! It won't be the end of the world if I don't go and I don't have to decide right now, so we will wait and see.

It would really depend on your school's academic calendar and the policies of the professors you have. My school has a fall break, but that's over Thanksgiving. I didn't get a Halloween break in undergrad, either, but I didn't attend a Wiccan or Druidic university. 

Anyhow, questions that I would ponder:
- Just how much are you paying per credit?  What does that translate to per class?
- What will you miss in terms of work time outside of lecture?
- How important is your Halloween getaway?
- Can you get notes from someone else?
Title: Re: schedule and missing class
Post by: lyre on August 09, 2009, 05:58:53 AM
I have a Fall Break which is usually around the beginning of October, but it's only for a couple of days (usually get Thurs and Fri off).  Then, we get a break around Thanksgiving also, but neither of those would help if you are wanting to travel around Halloween.  Personally, I wouldn't stress about missing 2 days of class.  You may get slightly behind, but you can just get notes from someone.  Just make sure you check out the attendance policy.
Title: Re: schedule and missing class
Post by: botbot on August 11, 2009, 11:25:21 AM
Yes, you can take a few days (or more) off.  It won't matter.
Title: Re: schedule and missing class
Post by: AndrewStebbins on August 19, 2009, 12:10:45 AM
That's kinda what I thought. I am trying to go somewhere for Halloween and if I remember correctly from ugrad, there was a fall break! It won't be the end of the world if I don't go and I don't have to decide right now, so we will wait and see.

You're in luck, because Halloween is on a Saturday this year.  Did you plan on going OOS?
Title: Re: schedule and missing class
Post by: Ninja1 on August 19, 2009, 10:49:32 AM
Skipping a day or two for a mental break can serve you very well.
Title: Re: schedule and missing class
Post by: HippieLawChick on September 30, 2009, 09:57:48 PM
Depended on the class for me.  Most professors didn't take attendance.  We were generally allowed about 3 absences.  I probably missed a total of 6 classes during the three years I was in law school.  For classes like Tax, missing anything could be a total disaster.  For my criminal procedure class, you could miss a few days and it wouldn't matter much, because the professor just went over the materials we were assigned without adding much. 

If you really need to miss class, it sometimes helps to speak to the professor and ask if there is anything you should be focusing on in the reading for the days you are missing.  Also, getting notes from 2 different classmates is crucial to see what was emphasized in class. 

Missing class here and there is no biggie.  Making it a habit is a bad idea.