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Title: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: ,.,.,.;.,.,. on July 17, 2009, 10:31:05 AM
::punches wall::

 >:(

And one of them was at the top of my bid list.

It looks like we're starting to see firms leave left and right.
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on July 17, 2009, 11:44:22 AM
Sorry to hear.  I am curious to hear if this is a common phenom at other schools right now.
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: big - fat - box on July 17, 2009, 11:49:35 AM
Firms were doing this at my school last year too.

Some firms were also showing up and just going through the motions. Other firms were interviewing a ton, calling back a handful, then only hiring a couple or no students at all.

I think you are going to see more about this in the blogs and such b/c the fact that the economy has crashed has been front page news.
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: ,.,.,.;.,.,. on July 17, 2009, 02:14:37 PM
8 firms?!   :o

If your tuition is still increasing next year, I think that's grounds for provocation.
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: ,.,.,.;.,.,. on July 17, 2009, 02:39:39 PM
They have a delusion that they can get us from T20 to T10, which is hilarious and embarrassing, but the upshot of which is that most of us don't pay a significant amount of tuition.

GULC is wounded.  Go in for the kill.

Nah.  That is idiotic.  Most lawyers have very firm perceptions of these schools, regardless of the underlying reality.  Spending more money on slightly better faculty isn't going to make much of a difference to anyone but 0L US News whores.
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: M_Cool on July 17, 2009, 09:17:57 PM
I'm curious what T20 school has so few vault firms coming?
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: TimMitchell on July 18, 2009, 04:15:12 AM
I'm curious what T20 school has so few vault firms coming?

Your mother tried to make them come, but couldn't finish the job.

(http://sexwithheadphoneson.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/l_f50373d67533a887dae58e8c7b2ad9b3.jpg)
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: vap on July 18, 2009, 07:05:31 AM
I'm curious what T20 school has so few vault firms coming?

Is WUSTL still T20?
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: nealric on July 18, 2009, 07:44:50 AM
I feel like there are new firms pulling out every day. Gulc is down to 475 offices this year (hard to count firms because of the way symplicity is set up). Last year there were 550 or so. The year before over 600.

Good luck guys.
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: Number81 on July 18, 2009, 08:26:46 AM
Gulc [has] 475 offices this year

Good luck guys.

Holy sh!t.  We have 27 and dropping!

One of my friends just transferred to Chicago and was in awe at how awesome their OCI was.  All you T14 kids must be doing great!
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: Matthies on July 18, 2009, 08:27:47 AM
Is this when I chime in with the value of networking?

FYI SA is not the only way to get into a big firm. Partners, senior associates and even jr. associates are free to recommend someone to the firm for them to look at. With many firms stopping summer SA completely its likely this will occur more often than in the past (not only because of the change in hiring but hopefully the change in job search strategies students take). Even if a firm does not do a summer program at all, they are still likely to need 2-3 new associates just to cover natural attrition.

 That’s too few for a summer program because it would result in a large numbers of no offers, hurting the firms rep at schools. But they still need to find a handful of new associates (and perhaps while they don’t have an “official” SA anymore, they might hire s few individuals for the summer anyway outside of an official SA program).
That gives them two primary choices to find these people: one is  put out an add to schools and wade though 1000s of résumés, pick a few based solely on paper, invest several hours in interviewing and hope from 30 mins they can pick the best people out of a similar situated lot.

Or they can ask for and seek recommendations from lawyers in the firm about law students they know. Here at least someone with the firm is familiar with this person beyond a cursory review of their resume and its expected they would only recommend people they think would fit in. Its likely those folks will go to the top of the interview list, if not the offer list.

Ok resume your sky is falling conversation.
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: ,.,.,.;.,.,. on July 18, 2009, 11:24:05 AM
Gulc [has] 475 offices this year

Good luck guys.

Holy sh!t.  We have 27 and dropping!

One of my friends just transferred to Chicago and was in awe at how awesome their OCI was.  All you T14 kids must be doing great!

Oh, that makes me feel better.
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: vap on July 18, 2009, 12:10:00 PM
Gulc [has] 475 offices this year

Good luck guys.

Holy sh!t.  We have 27 and dropping!

One of my friends just transferred to Chicago and was in awe at how awesome their OCI was.  All you T14 kids must be doing great!

Oh, that makes me feel better.

I'm sure you're in a better position than most.
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: M_Cool on July 18, 2009, 12:34:50 PM
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Is WUSTL still T20?


I can't believe even WUSTL only has 8 vault firms at its OCI.  That's insane if true. 
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: botbot on July 18, 2009, 09:45:31 PM
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Is WUSTL still T20?


I can't believe even WUSTL only has 8 vault firms at its OCI.  That's insane if true. 

Not to stir the pot but a prominent TEXAS firm just pulled out of the UTEXAS OCI.
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: eat it on July 19, 2009, 06:54:44 AM
I'm curious what T20 school has so few vault firms coming?

Your mother tried to make them come, but couldn't finish the job.

(http://sexwithheadphoneson.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/l_f50373d67533a887dae58e8c7b2ad9b3.jpg)

Where are you going to law school, Tim?
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: TimMitchell on July 20, 2009, 09:48:55 AM
I'm curious what T20 school has so few vault firms coming?

Your mother tried to make them come, but couldn't finish the job.

(http://sexwithheadphoneson.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/l_f50373d67533a887dae58e8c7b2ad9b3.jpg)

Where are you going to law school, Tim?

Vandy. How do you think gingers look in Black and Gold?
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: eat it on July 20, 2009, 09:51:40 AM
I'm curious what T20 school has so few vault firms coming?

Your mother tried to make them come, but couldn't finish the job.

(http://sexwithheadphoneson.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/l_f50373d67533a887dae58e8c7b2ad9b3.jpg)

Where are you going to law school, Tim?

Vandy. How do you think gingers look in Black and Gold?

Are you excited for every single one of your classmates who's ever spent any time on this site to know everything about you?
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: TimMitchell on July 20, 2009, 09:53:21 AM
I'm curious what T20 school has so few vault firms coming?

Your mother tried to make them come, but couldn't finish the job.

(http://sexwithheadphoneson.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/l_f50373d67533a887dae58e8c7b2ad9b3.jpg)

Where are you going to law school, Tim?

Vandy. How do you think gingers look in Black and Gold?

Are you excited for every single one of your classmates who's ever spent any time on this site to know everything about you?

Not particularly  :-\

I feared this day... and here we are

eta: Although since everyone has migrated to TLS I'm not too worried
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: eat it on July 20, 2009, 10:06:31 AM
I'm curious what T20 school has so few vault firms coming?

Your mother tried to make them come, but couldn't finish the job.

(http://sexwithheadphoneson.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/l_f50373d67533a887dae58e8c7b2ad9b3.jpg)

Where are you going to law school, Tim?

Vandy. How do you think gingers look in Black and Gold?

Are you excited for every single one of your classmates who's ever spent any time on this site to know everything about you?

Not particularly  :-\

I feared this day... and here we are

eta: Although since everyone has migrated to TLS I'm not too worried

Don't worry.  The TLSers browse here just as you browse there.
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: TimMitchell on July 20, 2009, 10:11:31 AM
I'm curious what T20 school has so few vault firms coming?

Your mother tried to make them come, but couldn't finish the job.

(http://sexwithheadphoneson.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/l_f50373d67533a887dae58e8c7b2ad9b3.jpg)

Where are you going to law school, Tim?

Vandy. How do you think gingers look in Black and Gold?

Are you excited for every single one of your classmates who's ever spent any time on this site to know everything about you?

Not particularly  :-\

I feared this day... and here we are

eta: Although since everyone has migrated to TLS I'm not too worried

Don't worry.  The TLSers browse here just as you browse there.

Yeah, but I don't really post on topic anymore... except this thread ::gulp::
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: TimMitchell on July 20, 2009, 04:11:14 PM
I said it before when there was talk at Emory that the Tim-Mitchell-kid-from-LSD might be coming--picking a different avatar and moniker would go a long way.  Whatever, though.  You're fine.

No way! Did that really happen?
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: ,.,.,.;.,.,. on July 20, 2009, 05:16:16 PM
Ugh . . . you didn't get into a T14.  I would change that quote if I were you.
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: Matthies on July 20, 2009, 05:38:19 PM
Ugh . . . you didn't get into a T14.  I would change that quote if I were you.

You really are an ass wally.
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: TimMitchell on July 20, 2009, 06:04:11 PM
Ugh . . . you didn't get into a T14.  I would change that quote if I were you.

Ugh... that's why I added [sic] to it Wally. I would change my attitude if I were you. Plus, shouldn't you be working on writing an expanded critique of the Chicago Law play?
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: TimMitchell on July 20, 2009, 06:17:57 PM
I'm curious what T20 school has so few vault firms coming?

Your mother tried to make them come, but couldn't finish the job.

(http://sexwithheadphoneson.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/l_f50373d67533a887dae58e8c7b2ad9b3.jpg)

Where are you going to law school, Tim?

Vandy. How do you think gingers look in Black and Gold?

Are you excited for every single one of your classmates who's ever spent any time on this site to know everything about you?

Not particularly  :-\

I feared this day... and here we are

eta: Although since everyone has migrated to TLS I'm not too worried

Don't worry.  The TLSers browse here just as you browse there.

Yeah, but I don't really post on topic anymore... except this thread ::gulp::

People definitely lurk in the OTB  too. 

 :-\ :-\ :-\

Meh, I don't really care. Even if I did it's too late to change anything.
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: ,.,.,.;.,.,. on July 20, 2009, 09:22:53 PM
Wally, I don't know what your next move is, but I think maintaining silence on the issue would probably let them know that you don't give a @#!*, which is legit. 

i'm guessing wally actually doesn't give a @#!*.

I really don't.  I have two days to finalize my OCI bids and that means I don't give a @#!*.

How do you guys feel about non-NYC Latham offices?  Latham Chicago could round out my twenty top bids.
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: xxspykex on August 13, 2009, 01:28:16 AM
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Is WUSTL still T20?


I can't believe even WUSTL only has 8 vault firms at its OCI.  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH AHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAH. Wow. WUSTL truly is a TTT.
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: dubsy on August 13, 2009, 05:06:44 PM
i'm back!!!!  hopefully for a little while.  wally, is that you [directed to o.p.]???
Title: Re: Just Learned 6 Firms Out of my OCI
Post by: hooloovoo on August 14, 2009, 01:13:14 PM
wally is this guy: