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Title: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: jsb221 on April 19, 2009, 10:58:00 AM
LegalGeekery.com has a link to the top 50 or so leaked law schools available at http://i41.tinypic.com/rvalag.jpg (http://i41.tinypic.com/rvalag.jpg)

I make no representations as to its authenticity. I just passed it along for those who might be interested.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: Pop Up Video on April 19, 2009, 11:11:56 AM
Totally fake
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: Top Cat on April 19, 2009, 11:33:52 AM
Totally fake

You think so?  I think this looks fairly authentic.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: Pop Up Video on April 19, 2009, 11:36:11 AM
Look at the heading. It says "Education" at the top. It doesn't look real.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: Top Cat on April 19, 2009, 11:52:30 AM
In any case, has anyone actually checked out that site?  I had never heard of it before today, but legalgeekery.com seems to be pretty cool... plenty of reference information as well as some humor.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: Tetris on April 19, 2009, 12:30:01 PM
In any case, has anyone actually checked out that site?  I had never heard of it before today, but legalgeekery.com seems to be pretty cool... plenty of reference information as well as some humor.

Subtle legalgeekery.com trolling.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: LawDog3 on April 19, 2009, 01:05:53 PM
Well...here's a clue...IU Bloomington is #23 on the list, which would be one of the most significant jumps ever. And Fordham drops to #30? For what reason? PT numbers aren't being calculated in the same metrics as FT, and Fordham has some of the best FT numbers in the country. If anything, I wouldn't be surprized to see Fordham RISE a notch or two. UC Davis leapfrogs over Hastings back to #35, where it was in 2003 or so? Vandy, which has been knocking on T14 for the last two years is now below Texas? Right! Vandy has gotten better. Don't be shocked if Cornell or GULC falls out of T14 b/c of Vandy or even UCLA.

The guy who created this is an IUB Law student or a recent IUB graduate...probably one who was rejected by Hastings and Fordham. lol. 
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: Top Cat on April 19, 2009, 01:09:48 PM
In any case, has anyone actually checked out that site?  I had never heard of it before today, but legalgeekery.com seems to be pretty cool... plenty of reference information as well as some humor.

Subtle legalgeekery.com trolling.

Yeah... that is kind of what it is.  Except that I had never heard of the site before today.   ::)
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: kimber1028 on April 19, 2009, 01:15:56 PM
It's actually the same pic that leaked on TLS last night... I think that's where they took the photo from.  Here's a link to that thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69124 (http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69124).  It has been widely debated as to whether the leak is real or not.  Personally, I'm inclined to think it is legit.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: LawDog3 on April 19, 2009, 01:17:12 PM
It's actually the same pic that leaked on TLS last night... I think that's where they took the photo from.  Here's a link to that thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69124 (http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69124).  It has been widely debated as to whether the leak is real or not.  Personally, I'm inclined to think it is legit.

No way.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: kimber1028 on April 19, 2009, 01:34:25 PM
It's actually the same pic that leaked on TLS last night... I think that's where they took the photo from.  Here's a link to that thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69124 (http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69124).  It has been widely debated as to whether the leak is real or not.  Personally, I'm inclined to think it is legit.
No way.

If you check out this link (http://www.usnews.com/blogs/college-rankings-blog/2008/10/6/preparing-for-our-first-ranking-of-law-school-part-time-programs.html), US News explains that they may change the methodology to factor the PT medians into the overall score, as well as scoring the individual part-time programs. This would explain Fordham's fall.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: LawDog3 on April 19, 2009, 10:35:40 PM
It's actually the same pic that leaked on TLS last night... I think that's where they took the photo from.  Here's a link to that thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69124 (http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69124).  It has been widely debated as to whether the leak is real or not.  Personally, I'm inclined to think it is legit.
No way.

If you check out this link (http://www.usnews.com/blogs/college-rankings-blog/2008/10/6/preparing-for-our-first-ranking-of-law-school-part-time-programs.html), US News explains that they may change the methodology to factor the PT medians into the overall score, as well as scoring the individual part-time programs. This would explain Fordham's fall.


Here's the quote from the link: Itís important to point out that these new part-time rankings will be in addition to the overall law school rankings that we will continue to publish as we have annually since 1990...

From every article I have read, USNWR is NOT including p/t scores in the f/t rankings. In fact, that's been the talk of the net. Many people are going crazy b/c they feel USNWR has "coppped out" in the end, largely, some say, due to the fact that one of the preverbial T-14 schools (can u guess which one? hint: it's in D.C., enrolls like 550 students and has, DING!, a p/t program!) would succum to one of the schools right "below" it.

USNWR, with its elitist agenda, can't have that, can it?

Besides, even if the p/t scores were merged with the f/t scores, it WOULD NOT explain IUB's sudden rise from #38 to #23 or UC-Davis's leapfrog of 10 spots over UC-Hastings.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: CTL on April 20, 2009, 05:40:54 AM
It's legit guys.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: Top Cat on April 20, 2009, 06:22:47 AM
It's legit guys.

Credited.  Over on TLS, they had some people go and confirm it... they have pictures of the book.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: CTL on April 20, 2009, 06:29:01 AM
GW people will be crying a bunch.  It's one thing to lose the ability to say T20; it's another thing to lose the ability to say T25 as well.  Boo hoo...
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: bl825 on April 20, 2009, 06:36:53 AM
It's actually the same pic that leaked on TLS last night... I think that's where they took the photo from.  Here's a link to that thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69124 (http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69124).  It has been widely debated as to whether the leak is real or not.  Personally, I'm inclined to think it is legit.
No way.

If you check out this link (http://www.usnews.com/blogs/college-rankings-blog/2008/10/6/preparing-for-our-first-ranking-of-law-school-part-time-programs.html), US News explains that they may change the methodology to factor the PT medians into the overall score, as well as scoring the individual part-time programs. This would explain Fordham's fall.


Here's the quote from the link: Itís important to point out that these new part-time rankings will be in addition to the overall law school rankings that we will continue to publish as we have annually since 1990...

From every article I have read, USNWR is NOT including p/t scores in the f/t rankings. In fact, that's been the talk of the net. Many people are going crazy b/c they feel USNWR has "coppped out" in the end, largely, some say, due to the fact that one of the preverbial T-14 schools (can u guess which one? hint: it's in D.C., enrolls like 550 students and has, DING!, a p/t program!) would succum to one of the schools right "below" it.

USNWR, with its elitist agenda, can't have that, can it?

Besides, even if the p/t scores were merged with the f/t scores, it WOULD NOT explain IUB's sudden rise from #38 to #23 or UC-Davis's leapfrog of 10 spots over UC-Hastings.

LOL at USNWR's "elitist agenda."

Their only agenda is to sell magazines.  They're only elitist if being so helps them sell.  ;)
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: CTL on April 20, 2009, 06:37:53 AM
It's actually the same pic that leaked on TLS last night... I think that's where they took the photo from.  Here's a link to that thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69124 (http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69124).  It has been widely debated as to whether the leak is real or not.  Personally, I'm inclined to think it is legit.
No way.

If you check out this link (http://www.usnews.com/blogs/college-rankings-blog/2008/10/6/preparing-for-our-first-ranking-of-law-school-part-time-programs.html), US News explains that they may change the methodology to factor the PT medians into the overall score, as well as scoring the individual part-time programs. This would explain Fordham's fall.


Here's the quote from the link: It’s important to point out that these new part-time rankings will be in addition to the overall law school rankings that we will continue to publish as we have annually since 1990...

From every article I have read, USNWR is NOT including p/t scores in the f/t rankings. In fact, that's been the talk of the net. Many people are going crazy b/c they feel USNWR has "coppped out" in the end, largely, some say, due to the fact that one of the preverbial T-14 schools (can u guess which one? hint: it's in D.C., enrolls like 550 students and has, DING!, a p/t program!) would succum to one of the schools right "below" it.

USNWR, with its elitist agenda, can't have that, can it?

Besides, even if the p/t scores were merged with the f/t scores, it WOULD NOT explain IUB's sudden rise from #38 to #23 or UC-Davis's leapfrog of 10 spots over UC-Hastings.

LOL at USNWR's "elitist agenda."

Their only agenda is to sell magazines.  They're only elitist if being so helps them sell.  ;)

Whenever people use the word 'agenda', I tend to roll my eyes. 
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: Pardon Johnny Cash. on April 20, 2009, 06:50:16 AM
Thank god these rankings finally came out, some people need to choose what law school they're going to  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: bl825 on April 20, 2009, 06:54:02 AM
It's actually the same pic that leaked on TLS last night... I think that's where they took the photo from.  Here's a link to that thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69124 (http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69124).  It has been widely debated as to whether the leak is real or not.  Personally, I'm inclined to think it is legit.
No way.

If you check out this link (http://www.usnews.com/blogs/college-rankings-blog/2008/10/6/preparing-for-our-first-ranking-of-law-school-part-time-programs.html), US News explains that they may change the methodology to factor the PT medians into the overall score, as well as scoring the individual part-time programs. This would explain Fordham's fall.


Here's the quote from the link: Itís important to point out that these new part-time rankings will be in addition to the overall law school rankings that we will continue to publish as we have annually since 1990...

From every article I have read, USNWR is NOT including p/t scores in the f/t rankings. In fact, that's been the talk of the net. Many people are going crazy b/c they feel USNWR has "coppped out" in the end, largely, some say, due to the fact that one of the preverbial T-14 schools (can u guess which one? hint: it's in D.C., enrolls like 550 students and has, DING!, a p/t program!) would succum to one of the schools right "below" it.

USNWR, with its elitist agenda, can't have that, can it?

Besides, even if the p/t scores were merged with the f/t scores, it WOULD NOT explain IUB's sudden rise from #38 to #23 or UC-Davis's leapfrog of 10 spots over UC-Hastings.

LOL at USNWR's "elitist agenda."

Their only agenda is to sell magazines.  They're only elitist if being so helps them sell.  ;)

Whenever people use the word 'agenda', I tend to roll my eyes. 

To be fair, some people do have an agenda.

My agenda, for example, is to climb out of this hole that I've dug for myself over the past few weeks.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: bl825 on April 20, 2009, 06:58:38 AM
At first, I thought you were referring to "LSD" as a whole... And then I'd say good luck to you.

Um, what?
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: Pardon Johnny Cash. on April 20, 2009, 07:01:38 AM
At first, I thought you were referring to "LSD" as that hole you're trying to climb out of... And then I'd say good luck to you.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: bl825 on April 20, 2009, 07:03:10 AM
Oh, I was confused because you said "whole."

And I wouldn't call it the hole, but I suspect that it might have snuck up behind me and pushed me in.  :P

It's like being at the bottom of a well.  :(
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: BurtsBees on April 20, 2009, 08:02:18 AM
Thank god these rankings finally came out, some people need to choose what law school they're going to  ::) ::) ::) ::)

+1

Awesome
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: YouShouldFeelPrivileged on April 20, 2009, 08:05:12 AM
Well, I'm still going to tell people Cornell is ranked 12...nothing to do with rank, I just don't like the #13 :P
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: CTL on April 20, 2009, 08:06:53 AM
Well, I'm still going to tell people Cornell is ranked 12...nothing to do with rank, I just don't like the #13 :P

If you're going to stretch the truth, might as well say it's 10. 
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: Pardon Johnny Cash. on April 20, 2009, 08:14:41 AM
Well, I'm still going to tell people Cornell is ranked 12...nothing to do with rank, I just don't like the #13 :P

If you're going to stretch the truth, might as well say it's 10. 

I would NOT do this.  You'll be detained in the middle of the night and then extradited to North Carolina where Mike Nifong will hold you on trumped up charges.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: bl825 on April 20, 2009, 08:15:27 AM
Why bother with rankings?  Just say it's Ivy League.  ;)
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: YouShouldFeelPrivileged on April 20, 2009, 08:18:01 AM
Well, I'm still going to tell people Cornell is ranked 12...nothing to do with rank, I just don't like the #13 :P

If you're going to stretch the truth, might as well say it's 10. 

LOL... ;D
I'd like to avoid extraordinary rendition to NC if possible...
And I agree about the Ivy League moniker; says it all... ::)
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: bl825 on April 20, 2009, 08:21:20 AM
Exactly.  Just like dropping the "H-bomb."  :D

(I was giving someone else crap about this a few days ago.  :P )
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: CTL on April 20, 2009, 08:26:48 AM
Princeton law, ftw!
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: YouShouldFeelPrivileged on April 20, 2009, 08:29:13 AM
Well, I'm still going to tell people Cornell is ranked 12...nothing to do with rank, I just don't like the #13 :P

If you're going to stretch the truth, might as well say it's 10. 

I would NOT do this.  You'll be detained in the middle of the night and then extradited to North Carolina where Mike Nifong will hold you on trumped up charges.

DAMN YOU, DUKE!  DAAAAAAAAAAMN YOOOOOOOOOU!!!!!
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: Old and in the Way on April 20, 2009, 08:29:31 AM
Top 100 and Part-time list here:

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=69258

1. Yale
2. Harvard
3. Stanford
4. Columbia
5. NYU
6. Berkeley
6. Chicago
8. Penn
9. Michigan
10. Duke
10. Northwestern
10. UVA
13. Cornell GPA 3.24-3.84
14. GULC
15. UCLA
15. Texas
17. Vanderbilt
18. USC
19. WUSTL
20. BU
20. Emory
20. Minnesota
23. Indiana - Bloomington
23. Illinois
23. Notre Dame
26. BC
26. Iowa
28. William and Mary
28. GWU
30. Fordham
30. Alabama
30. UNC
30. U of Washington
30. Washington and Lee
35. OSU
35. Davis
35. Georgia
35. Wisconsin-Madison
39. Hastings
40. Wake Forest
41. BYU
41. GMU
43. Arizona
43. Maryland
45. American
45. Tulane
45. UC Boulder
45. Utah
49. SMU
49. Cardozo
51. U of Florida
52. Florida State
52. U of Cincinnati
52. UConn- so sorry, A'nold
55. Arizona State
55. Case Western
55. Pepperdine
55. Kentucky
59. Houston
59. Tennessee
61. Brooklyn
61. Lewis & Clark
61. San Diego
61. Villanova
65. Baylor
65. Georgia State
65. Penn State
65. Temple
65. U of Kansas
65. U of Missouri
71. Loyola LA
71. Miami
71. Oklahoma
71. Pitt
75. Louisiana State
75. UNLV
77. Chicago-Kent
77. Rutgers Camden
77. Seattle
77. Seton Hall
77. Denver
77. New Mexico
77. Oregon
77. Richmond
85. Santa Clara
85. SUNY-Buff
87. DePaul
87. Indiana-Indianapolis
87. Loyola Chicago
87. Marquette
87. Rutgers Newark
87. St. John's
87. South Carolina
94. Catholic
94. Northeastern
94. St Louis
94. Arkansas Fayetteville
98. Louisville
98. USF
100. Gonzaga
100. Hofstra
100. UMaine

Part-Time Rankings:
1. GULC
2. GW
3. Fordham
4. American
5. GMU
6. Maryland
7. Temple
7. San Diego
9. Denver
10. Chicago Kent

Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: BurtsBees on April 20, 2009, 08:35:33 AM
NU FTW

Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: YouShouldFeelPrivileged on April 20, 2009, 08:39:30 AM
I love how Cornell gets the "holy *&^%" :o GPA appended next to it!
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: BurtsBees on April 20, 2009, 08:43:55 AM
I love how Cornell gets the "holy poo" :o GPA appended next to it!

Haha - I noticed this too and found it funny.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: BluejayLaw on April 20, 2009, 12:26:35 PM
This definitely looks legit, but why is Gonzaga ranked in the T100 and Third Tier?
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: kimber1028 on April 20, 2009, 12:31:43 PM
This definitely looks legit, but why is Gonzaga ranked in the T100 and Third Tier?

I don't know... same with a couple of other schools, too. We've been trying to figure it out on TLS for awhile.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: kimber1028 on April 20, 2009, 12:35:25 PM
Just figured it out--a TLS poster has last year's magazine and apparently the #100 schools are always listed in both tiers.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: BurtsBees on April 20, 2009, 12:40:51 PM
Just figured it out--a TLS poster has last year's magazine and apparently the #100 schools are always listed in both tiers.
::)People buy this magazine?
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: BluejayLaw on April 20, 2009, 12:42:50 PM
I just noticed that Hawaii (Richardson) and Nebraska fell out of the Top 100. Wow.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: iheartlaw on April 21, 2009, 01:29:41 PM
Yeah and McGeorge =( fell out of the top 100.
Title: Re: 2010 rankings leaked
Post by: m1ss_uNdeRst00d on April 21, 2009, 07:28:18 PM
UB rose to 85! WOOT WOOT