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Title: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: Top Cat on April 04, 2009, 08:52:25 AM
With this thread, I will reserve the unique distinction of having created the "Class of 2012" thread for two different schools.  Nonetheless, I have noticed University of Kentucky Law School getting quite a bit of discussion on these boards the past few days, and I don't think there is an official UK thread yet.

Anyone who has committed to or is strongly leading toward going to UK this August, this thread is for you (us).  Maybe we can get to know each other a little before classes actually start.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: drakewing on April 05, 2009, 03:22:14 PM
sounds good. i think i'm sending my seat deposit this week. didn't expect to end up in kentucky but i really like the tone of the correspondence from the school and the in-state tuition rate is hard to argue with.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: Top Cat on April 05, 2009, 05:33:13 PM
I'm guessing from the way you worded your post that you aren't from Kentucky... have you visited the campus?
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: drakewing on April 05, 2009, 06:00:05 PM
No. I'm from California but finishing at Alabama right now. I hope to make it out there relatively soon. I've done some research online but if you have any thoughts or opinions about the campus or Lexington, I'd love to hear them.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: Top Cat on April 05, 2009, 06:30:36 PM
I grew up about 2 hours south of Lexington... it is a cool town that most people who visit seem to like.  People from big cities seem to think it is small, but, to me, it is pretty large (my hometown= 6,000 people).  The campus is nicer than average, but not as nice as some others in Kentucky (my alma mater, WKU, is considerably better looking).  The law school isn't very aeshetically pleasing, but it does have somewhat of a charm to it. 

As far as a UK degree... it is the best in Kentucky.  In fact, there are few schools (maybe none except Harvard and Yale) that are more highly respected in the state of Kentucky.  That may sound like hyperbole (and it may be a bit of a stretch), but a UK degree opens a lot of doors within Kentucky.  As far as outside the state- I wouldn't know.  What I do know is this- Kentucky gets a bad national reputation for being a state full of under-educated hicks, but you shouldn't knock Kentucky until you give it a fair shake.  I love it here.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: drakewing on April 05, 2009, 07:23:36 PM
Yeah, I think University of Alabama gets a similar reputation. The advantages though of being at the top school w/in the state outweigh this for me. If I have to stay in the area to get some job experience, that's what I'll do.

Campus aesthetics aren't that important to me. I care more about having some trees and grass around than I do about the state of the buildings, which is helpful, since the rebuilding of the law school looks a few years away.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: SwampFox on April 05, 2009, 07:34:43 PM
I grew up in Lexington...you can't ask for a nicer town.  It has a fair amount of urban amenities without awful traffic and insane real-estate prices.  And yes, there are plenty of open spaces with grass and trees in and just outside of town.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: jd2012 on April 10, 2009, 09:34:05 PM
Have you guys heard of many graduates to gain employement out of the region?
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: Top Cat on April 11, 2009, 07:19:51 AM
From what I have seen/ heard, about 80% of UK graduates stay in Kentucky.  However, this seems to be by choice- not because they can't get a job somewhere else, but because they don't want to.  At the UK ASD, they emphasized that it was very possible to get a job out of the region, but that you have to work a lot harder to get one.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: drakewing on April 11, 2009, 12:03:02 PM
I know of a UK grad who finished last year and complained about the difficulty of finding something outside the region. But he's working for a firm in NYC, so I'm thinking that means, as TopCat said, you just have to make an additional effort. Most of the employers UK brings in for its job fair for example, are from nearby. We may have to try to attend job fairs outside the state and find other ways of networking if we don't want to start out employed in the South or the Midwest.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: jd2012 on April 28, 2009, 10:06:32 AM
Does anyone know the best place to live near campus?
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: SwampFox on April 28, 2009, 05:27:23 PM
There are very few bad parts of town, but one of them is unfortunately not too far from the university.  A few questions:
1) How close do you want to live?  Within walking distance, a couple of miles away (bike ride), a fifteen minute drive?
2) What kind of place do you want to live in?  Rented house?  Cheap old apartment?  House converted to apt.?  Well-furnished complex?
3) What kind of part of town do you like?  Right near campus?  Near lots of shopping & entertainment?  Downtown?  "Bohemian?"  Rural area?
Pretty much anywhere in town is cheap, compared to big cities (though it looks like your a KY boy, already, so you know about that).
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: SwampFox on April 28, 2009, 05:59:18 PM
(though it looks like your a KY boy, already, so you know about that).
Sorry about that...I clicked on the wrong person's profile.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: jd2012 on April 29, 2009, 09:14:33 AM
No I'm actually making a long distance move. I want to live within walking distance to campus and would rather live in a standard apartment.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: Top Cat on April 29, 2009, 09:37:38 AM
Speaking of apartments, my wife and I have found some pretty awesome apartments about 4 miles away from campus.  They are called The Village Apartments, and really seem very nice for the price.  Not exactly within walking distance, but they are worth checking out.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: drakewing on April 29, 2009, 11:17:56 AM
Out of curiosity, is there really a "bohemian" part of town?

I'm interested in living someplace close to a coffee shop, maybe downtown. It can be in an older building but the neighborhood has to be safe. Any ideas?
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: SwampFox on April 29, 2009, 07:03:27 PM
No I'm actually making a long distance move. I want to live within walking distance to campus and would rather live in a standard apartment.
If by "standard apt.," you mean something in a complex, that might be difficult to get right next to campus.  There are a zillion apts. that are right next to the university, but they're all old houses converted into rental property.  You'd have to call a referral service or look in the paper to contact someone.  I'm racking my brain to think of a complex with a pool (there has to be one), but I can't think of any right now.


Speaking of apartments, my wife and I have found some pretty awesome apartments about 4 miles away from campus.  They are called The Village Apartments, and really seem very nice for the price.  Not exactly within walking distance, but they are worth checking out.
Wow!  I lived in the Village a few years ago.  You'll love it.  It was the nicest apt. I've ever had, and it's a super convenient location; pretty much anything you'd want (movies, restaurants, shops) is within a quarter of a mile of there.

Out of curiosity, is there really a "bohemian" part of town?

I'm interested in living someplace close to a coffee shop, maybe downtown. It can be in an older building but the neighborhood has to be safe. Any ideas?

Believe it or not, Lexington, Kentucky does have a "bohemian" part of town (or two).  The best such place, in my opinion, is the "Ashland" district, which roughly consists of the area located within a half-mile of the intersection of Ashland and Euclid.  This includes Ashland, Clay, Old Vine, Woodland, and parts of Rose streets.  Transylvania Park (not Trans. University) is sometimes lumped into that, though I disagree.  It has lots of downtown charm, there are loads of apartments, it's fairly close to the university, has shops you can walk or bike to, has at least two coffee shops (I recommend Common Grounds on East High), and has lots of students, professors, and artists living there.  Several of my friends have lived in that area, and it's fairly safe.  I'm not a bohemian by any stretch, but I think it's a charming part of town.

In general, the east side of town (Richmond Road/Main, Tates Creek, and the east side of Man O' War) is much cheaper to live in, not to mention much easier to get around.  The traffic on Nicholasville Road and Harrodsburg Road are AWFUL; there's a reason Nicholasville Road has eight lanes or something at one stretch.  The north side of town tends to be more older areas, located near heavy industry.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: jd2012 on April 29, 2009, 07:39:28 PM
Sorry sbout that, I said " standard apt" out of a lack of better words. Are their any apartments that you would recommend that are within 1 mile from the campus. When I read the reviews on apartmentratings.com, they all seem like dumps.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: drakewing on April 29, 2009, 10:48:46 PM

Believe it or not, Lexington, Kentucky does have a "bohemian" part of town (or two).  The best such place, in my opinion, is the "Ashland" district, which roughly consists of the area located within a half-mile of the intersection of Ashland and Euclid.  This includes Ashland, Clay, Old Vine, Woodland, and parts of Rose streets.  Transylvania Park (not Trans. University) is sometimes lumped into that, though I disagree.  It has lots of downtown charm, there are loads of apartments, it's fairly close to the university, has shops you can walk or bike to, has at least two coffee shops (I recommend Common Grounds on East High), and has lots of students, professors, and artists living there.  Several of my friends have lived in that area, and it's fairly safe.  I'm not a bohemian by any stretch, but I think it's a charming part of town.

In general, the east side of town (Richmond Road/Main, Tates Creek, and the east side of Man O' War) is much cheaper to live in, not to mention much easier to get around.  The traffic on Nicholasville Road and Harrodsburg Road are AWFUL; there's a reason Nicholasville Road has eight lanes or something at one stretch.  The north side of town tends to be more older areas, located near heavy industry.



Thank you - this is the most useful info I've been able to get about Lexington so far. I've seen Common Grounds online and hoped the neighborhood around it would be cool. I'll be checking out this area first chance I get.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: SwampFox on April 30, 2009, 07:26:43 PM
Sorry sbout that, I said " standard apt" out of a lack of better words. Are their any apartments that you would recommend that are within 1 mile from the campus. When I read the reviews on apartmentratings.com, they all seem like dumps.
My suggestion would be to start with some of the apartments on Red Mile Road, which is about a mile from the campus.  All the apartments there are relatively new, safe, and don't attract riff-raff.  They are very popular with grad./professional students and young professionals.  The only downside is that it's not too far from some old industrial areas, but several of my friends loved living there.

There are quite a few nice places on Limestone and Waller Avenue, but Limestone is just a nightmare to get in and out of (I've had friends live there, so I know).  Many of the apartments right smack next to  campus are old buildings that have been turned into apartments, and you just have to check them out to be sure.

I'll try to remember to ask my friends if anyone has any other suggestions.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: jd2012 on May 01, 2009, 08:07:41 PM
I know that this might sound insane, but I can't wait to get started this fall. What areas of law do you guys want to practice?
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: drakewing on May 01, 2009, 08:34:29 PM
Public interest/international.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: jd2012 on May 02, 2009, 10:05:36 AM
criminal law
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: drakewing on May 02, 2009, 10:21:29 AM
Prosecution or defense? Just curious.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: jd2012 on May 03, 2009, 11:34:18 AM
either or
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: Top Cat on May 04, 2009, 04:17:39 AM
Swampfox- helpful comments.  My wife and I visited, and those apartments seemed very nice.


As far as what I hope to practice, I'm trying to go in with an open mind... I would like to get a job with a decent-sized firm within the city, and eventually perhaps do corporate litigation.  However, I'm going to see where things lead me and see what really interests me.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: Top Cat on May 04, 2009, 06:29:51 AM
either or

Just out of curiosity, what makes you want to be a criminal attorney if you don't know what side you want to be on?  I'm not knocking that decision either way... just curious.  After all, one side of the fence, you are trying to defend people, and the other side, you are trying to fry (figuratively speaking) those same people.  Does criminal law, in general, just interest you?
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: SwampFox on May 04, 2009, 09:55:29 AM
TopCat, I remember now one characteristic about the Village that made it an especially interesting place to live.  Toyota used to rent out several of the apartments for people from Japan staying there temporarily.  They made for excellent neighbors, and often someone would stop by to politely ask (in halting English) for basic assistance on something like setting up the cable TV or where to buy groceries.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: Top Cat on May 04, 2009, 11:12:36 AM
That sounds like a very interesting experience that could lead to many stories... I think I am most excited about having a tennis court a rock throw away.  ;)
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: jd2012 on May 04, 2009, 12:07:11 PM
I'm just interested in criminal law in general. I really see both sides as a type of defense; it's just that one side defends the accuser while another defends the victim.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: jeeptiger09 on May 05, 2009, 09:55:23 AM
I'm finishing up my undergrad here in Lexington, and there isn't a better time to be coming to UK, so congrats on UK Law!

As far as apartments, it all depends on what you want.  I wouldn't recommend living too far off campus because, as someone stated before, traffic is terrible around town.  Richmond Rd and Harddosburg Rd aren't as bad, but stay away from Nicholasville Rd.  I'd recommend living around campus or downtown.

If you are looking into campus area apartments, there are a lot of new complexes opening up.  Royal Lex and Newtown are close to campus (definite walking distance), but Royal Lex has been known to have break-ins and is more of a 'party' or undergrad atmosphere.  Newtown is just down the block and it's very nice (only 4 years old), but moderately expensive ($600+/mo) and parking is a pain in the ass there (forewarning, parking is a pain in the ass everywhere in Lex/at UK).  Other good places around campus: Red Mile (20 min. walk, well-priced), Campus Court (next to Red Mile, new), and Centre Court (expensive but great location, brand new).  Also, the Lex is a new facility and more are being built every year around campus.

The Village is nice but it's far away, you'll need to buy a parking permit and those can be hard to come by.

If you're thinking downtown, check out Main and Rose (expensive but brand new) and Park Plaza (really nice, relatively inexpensive).

Good luck finding a place!  You're going to love Lexington!
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: jd2012 on May 05, 2009, 01:38:06 PM
Thanks for the info, it was very helpful.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: jd2012 on May 08, 2009, 06:10:25 PM
Do you gys know anything about the University Lofts on Bolivar, or Newton Crossing on Foreman?
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: drakewing on May 13, 2009, 08:41:28 PM
I don't have much to add. I'm just really excited about the fall. Are you all doing anything to prepare? In terms of pre-reading, for example?

Right now I'm looking at On Liberty by Mill and Discipline and Punish by Focault. I figure, last chance to read what I want, right?
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: jeeptiger09 on May 14, 2009, 01:02:41 AM
jd2012,

Newtown Crossing is a four year old complex with seven apartment buildings and a pool.  It has singles and triples, but most are quads.  There is a pool and a sand volleyball court and a restaurant right in the complex.  Very nice facilities, but looking at around $600+/mo. (even more if it's a single).  It's a short walk to campus--I'd say about 15 minutes to the law school.  Very nice place, but going to be filled with a lot of undergrads and could be noisy on the weekends.  Parking at Newtown is awful and you're not really close to restaurants or bars.

University Lofts is also relatively new, five or six years old.  One of my best friends lived in University Lofts when we were freshmen and it was a pretty cool place.  Loft style with two rooms (kitchen/dining and bedroom/bathroom/closet).  Nice, rent is pretty expensive ($800/mo./loft) but it's a place that would be pretty quiet.  About the same distance to the law school, 15-20 minute walk--very close to campus.  It's also very close to a lot of restaurants on campus (fazoli's, jimmy john's, firehouse, etc.) and close to all the bookstores.

Let me know if you need anything else.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: ukerock2005 on May 18, 2009, 01:00:04 PM
Hey I am a UK undergrad and will also be attending Uk law in the fall. They created a facebook group for us called "UK Law Class of 2012". They are trying to plan some events for the end of july and early august for all of us to meet. As far as interest go I am still wide open. With that being said I wouldn't mind some form of buissness law. Lexington is also a great city to  live in. It is big enough you can find things to do, but small enough to avoid the problems of big cities. I look forward to meeting everyone.
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: Top Cat on May 21, 2009, 04:55:27 AM
To those of you from the area, what are some of the bigger-name law firms in Lexington?
Title: Re: University of Kentucky, class of 2012
Post by: SwampFox on May 21, 2009, 06:07:15 PM
To those of you from the area, what are some of the bigger-name law firms in Lexington?

Hehe, there's Gary Becker and Melbourne Mills, Jr.  They have lots of commercials.  (Of course, they spend most of their time running after paramedics.)