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Title: AAMPLE PROGRAM at NOVA
Post by: dmb61787 on February 05, 2009, 01:55:53 PM
Hi Guys, I'm new to the site and I haven't seen a topic discussion about the AAMPLE program.

I was just given the opportunity to take part in the program and I was wondering if anyone is going to be doing it this summer or if anyone has participated in it in the past. If you've done this program, do you have any advice or suggestions?? And if you're going to be part of it this summer will you be taking it online or in the class??

Title: Re: AAMPLE PROGRAM at NOVA
Post by: Julie Fern on February 11, 2009, 02:12:55 PM
advice?  shower curtain go on inside.
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Post by: Michelalexis on February 11, 2009, 02:33:37 PM
Hi,

I'm also taking part in AAMPLE this summer (on-campus). Nervous?
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Post by: Julie Fern on February 12, 2009, 08:00:14 AM
not at all.  julie known about shower curtain thing some time now.
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Post by: lawstudent86 on February 16, 2009, 10:19:42 PM
Hey, I am urging you NOT to do the program.  I did it this past summer and worked very hard through it and just missed the passing mark (getting right under the required gpa).  I have spoken with many people who also did the online and even the on campus program and found the same thing.  They claim there is no cap on the number of people admitted but it simply is NOT true.  Statistically how can everyone get so close and not pass it?  I suggest going to any other school if you have the chance and if not, reapply.  The advice was posted just like the message I am giving you and I sadly did not follow it.  I figured it was someone who was angry and possibly did not work hard.  I totally agree with their assessment and am most upset over the money wasted on the program.  I currently am a law student at a different law school and am doing well.  This program is simply a way for NOVA to make money off of students with less than superior lsat scores and it is a shame.
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Post by: Michelalexis on February 18, 2009, 01:54:29 PM
Before you took your exam and got your grades, how did  you feel about your progress or the difficulty of the classes?  I'm just asking because I have an undergrad in Legal Studies so I'm figuring I might not find it as difficult as most because of my familiarity with the subjects. Were the classes that difficult that my analysis is totally wrong?
Title: Re: AAMPLE PROGRAM at NOVA
Post by: Michelalexis on February 18, 2009, 01:55:47 PM
What is the "shower curtain thing" ?
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Post by: LULAW1982 on February 21, 2009, 12:29:32 AM
I WOULD NOT participate in this program.  If the school wanted you as a student, they would have offered you a seat.  They didn't.  The program is just another way for them to take your money.  In essence, if you participate in the program, you are "applying" to apply. 

DON'T DO IT. 
Title: Re: AAMPLE PROGRAM at NOVA
Post by: lawstudent86 on February 23, 2009, 08:22:04 PM
To be honest I felt very confident and studied the material in depth.  I went to every online class and made outlines for the courses.  Law school is a different approach than undergrad.  I am not saying that being exposed to parts of the subject matter prior does not help, but the way the material is presented is much harder. 

As I stated in my prior posting I currently am a law student and can tell you that the classes they teach on AAMPLE are classes law students take in their THIRD year.  You have not been exposed to first year courses so the fact that they use third year classes to "see if you can handle it" is ludicrous.  I am just hoping by this posting to save people in the future from wasted time and money in the program.  Good luck though with whatever you decide.



Before you took your exam and got your grades, how did  you feel about your progress or the difficulty of the classes?  I'm just asking because I have an undergrad in Legal Studies so I'm figuring I might not find it as difficult as most because of my familiarity with the subjects. Were the classes that difficult that my analysis is totally wrong?
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Post by: serendipity212 on March 31, 2009, 08:41:13 AM
I am also taking part in the on-campus program. I have heard mixed things about this program. I have spoken with someone who successfully completed it and then as we see in the above posting, there are those who think it's a sham. This skepticism is not making feel good about sending in my seat deposit, although its too late now. I want to believe that with hard work this program is achievable.
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Post by: booya on April 24, 2009, 12:21:52 PM
I took the AAMPLE PROGRAM in the summer of 2008, I can answer any question you will have? I recall, some of the students and I wanted to speak with someone who took the AAMPLE Program, but we were unable to find anyone! With this in mind, I am here to help you! Just ask, and I will let you know! By the way, I did pass this program!
Title: Re: AAMPLE PROGRAM at NOVA
Post by: Michelalexis on April 29, 2009, 09:12:54 AM
Thanks for being willing to take questions. My questions to you as a previous student would be:

How much studying outside of class did you really put in?
Which professors did you have?
Were the classes really comprehendable to you, and if so did you have a pre-law undergrad?
Did you do any preparation before the classes actually started?
Title: Re: AAMPLE PROGRAM at NOVA
Post by: Julie Fern on May 01, 2009, 06:45:46 AM
I took the AAMPLE PROGRAM in the summer of 2008, I can answer any question you will have? I recall, some of the students and I wanted to speak with someone who took the AAMPLE Program, but we were unable to find anyone! With this in mind, I am here to help you! Just ask, and I will let you know! By the way, I did pass this program!

ok then!
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Post by: Heri23 on May 07, 2009, 02:53:00 PM
I am currently enrolled into the summer program as well and I received the scheduled and I am taking the 1st section (Morning). I have a friend who take this program last year and said it was very difficult, but it takes a lot of hard work and effort. My friend missed the gpa requiered but provided some value advice.
Good luck to those taking the program
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Post by: Julie Fern on May 08, 2009, 05:29:56 AM
not enough exclamation points!
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Post by: miamiprep on May 08, 2009, 11:28:40 PM
As a tutor, Ive worked with students in the AAMPLE program for about 10 yrs. It is tough but generally fair--the pass rate is about 40% for the live program and slightly lower for the online version. I can also address any questions.
Title: Re: AAMPLE PROGRAM at NOVA
Post by: Julie Fern on May 09, 2009, 11:18:27 AM
what wing speed african swallow?
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Post by: jd4091 on May 09, 2009, 09:44:59 PM
I also just got accepted to the summer AAMPLE program and was very excited until I read all the negativity on the site. Hope hard work pays off and if anyone would like to chat about it, I would like to connect with others in the program.
Title: Re: AAMPLE PROGRAM at NOVA
Post by: fineguy1986 on July 11, 2011, 02:24:14 AM
Hey To all Would-be or going to be AAMPLE Students,

I just completed the AAMPLE program at Nova. It is the summer of 2011 and I’m sure anyone reading this will be reading it a year from now or later lol. I’m posting to tell you that this program is legit.

I know what you’re going thru...your staying up late, worrying that your dreams of becoming a lawyer is getting washed away by that horribly written standardized test known as the LSAT and now you’re considering a program that sounds expensive, sounds desperate and provides no guarantees. What is worse is that your late nights are spent reading threads like this one that scare the living hell out of you. Every time you think of AAMPLE you feel like Neo felt when Morpheus offered him to choose between the blue or red pill. For us the blue pill is not going to AAMPLE and stay in fairy-tale land and possibly live the rest of your life never knowing whether you have what it takes to be a law student or take the red pill and go to AAMPLE and face reality and find out for sure whether you have what it takes or not. That is what I think most are afraid of with this program. Poor LSAT scores is an excellent excuse for one to make for the rest of their life why they didn’t become a lawyer. AAMPLE is not an excuse it is a reason.

I don’t know the specific policies with regard to the secrecy to the program and this thread might be tapped so I will tell you as much as I think I can. Other than that I say take the extra step and be Alice and follow the bunny lol and email me Hyena4ks@aol.com if you have any other additional questions. Alright, I’ve had enough Matrix references.

I can’t talk for other schools. But I can talk for NOVA and I will say that they tried their best to live up to what they say on their site. The program director was always there to answer questions, the professors were there all day to help you out with things you didn’t understand and even though all the amenities of the school were not at our disposal…with a good personality and a nice smile you could use any facility (gym, library, etc).  The program is exactly as they say it is because Its 2 real law school classes. In fact they are law school classes that one would probably take in their 2nd or 3rd year and if they were taking these very same classes in the summer they would be accelerated the same as these are. And that’s exactly it…as simple as that might seem I think that is where most of the participants lost each other at.  As far as rumors or myths go with NOVA specifically…READ and UNDERSTAND what AAMPLE is. I can vouch that everything they say on there will become true or they will try their best to make true.

Oh one thing that was getting to me when I in your position was the 3500 dollar tuition. I remember reading one time on one of these sites that 3500 dollars is too much to pay to see if you could make it in law school. They said that they have mock law school classes you could attend.  Kaplan must of put that because there is no one day class that could make you have an epiphany and realize that law is or isn’t for you.  Law school isn’t just about going to class it is about the type of things we are doing now.  The moments in our brains that make us think, want to learn, move forward, the trials and tribulations that truly test one’s own dedication.  The ability to teach oneself cannot be duplicated or shown in an hour mock class. Another one I hated reading was that you should re-take the LSAT. Who would ever want to do that again or do it more than once? That is more a mental torture to me than any class ever could do to me.  Obviously I am a bit bitter toward standardized testing…I think this is a failure of the American school systems lol. Let’s not get into that. At the end of the day 3500 hundred dollars could put a temporary dent in your wallet that gave you insight into knowing for sure whether you’d make it in Law school or an extra 3 dollars a month  on top of your already close to a small fortune future student loan debt. Life is a gamble…play.  I’m pretty sure at some point in your college career most of you have spent 3500 dollars in a month at the club or at forever 21 lol. Oh and some expressed concern that they just want your money. Well…duh!!! Why would anyone start a law school? For charity? We are going to be lawyers…a job based around and for money.  This is a fact of life. Oh and they have conspiracies about that if they wanted you they would have accepted you from the beginning. I don’t think this is the case. Because number 1…why wouldn’t they want everyone to pass? That’s an extra 100,000 dollars at the end of the day from each and every person that passes. I mean of course they are not going to let everyone in because even though they are in the business of making money they are not going to let someone in that is going to fail out, ruin their attrition rate and at the end of the day another failure is another 100,000 dollars they are not going to get. Think reality people. And you’ll get your answers.

In conclusion…I wish you luck. I will say it is going to be challenging. Remember it is designed to find out if you have what it takes.  You will be treated as an adult. No one is going to be there to pat you along. It is a very personal challenge that will test you and insult you mentally. It is a program that is very demanding and deserves your undivided attention. If I was to do it again in my next life I would stay on campus or in some underground military hanger so that your family, friends, daughters and sons can’t distract you. Your personal life does not matter here.  The only thing in AAMPLE that matters is only personal revelation and casebooks lol. I will apologize if this is not helpful enough. I just wanted to cheer whoever you are up and make you know that you aren’t alone. As I said no one is going to baby you and I am not either. One part of AAMPLE is self discovery. I sought the truth and I want you to do it too. I want you to see how far the rabbit hole goes. I can help you more hands on if you inquire further. I’m not trying to make friends either (dear god I have too many already) I am paying it forward. A certain student that graduated this year…the same year I took AAMPLE helped me out a lot. He also was an AAMPLE grad. I feel it is my duty to do the same (yes honor still exists lol). Alright Candidate…eyes on the gold and if you’re cocky remember…Your Not a Jedi…Yet
Title: Re: AAMPLE PROGRAM at NOVA
Post by: Julie Fern on December 20, 2011, 07:33:31 AM
What is the "shower curtain thing" ?

it gravity thing.
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Post by: legalpractitioner on December 26, 2011, 05:07:25 PM
Looked kind of lame to me.
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Post by: LincolnLover on December 27, 2011, 02:39:16 PM
If it gets you in and that is your goal, then there you go.
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Post by: hipp12 on December 07, 2013, 04:08:13 PM
what  is the lowest lsat do you need to even get aaccepted