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Law Students => Job Search => Topic started by: woomen on January 29, 2009, 10:47:32 AM

Title: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: woomen on January 29, 2009, 10:47:32 AM
anyone heard of them?  anyone know anyone who used them?  what's the word on this company?  the better business bureau has nothing on them.
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: Big Time Lawyer on January 29, 2009, 09:56:26 PM
anyone heard of them?  anyone know anyone who used them?  what's the word on this company?  the better business bureau has nothing on them.

It's a gimmick.  Don't waste your time or money.

I actually find the site hilarious, although the company is trying to capitalize on law students' desperation.

"Regular Price is $199, sign up now during our national promotion for $79.00."

"If you have graduated your membership will last for six months of service."

"Why do we charge a nominal fee? FirstLawJob.com provides each client with a personal career counselor that takes care of the entire job-search process."

"How the Process Works

I.    Fill out the application and membership page.

II.   A career counselor will contact you to discuss career opportunities.

III. We begin searching and applying for jobs on your behalf through a     real-time database of hiring firms, as well as relationships with law firms      and legal recruiters.

IV.  You will be contacted directly by those firms that are interested in you."
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: utlawgirl1983 on February 04, 2009, 08:08:06 PM
I signed up with Firstlawjob about a month ago. I am taking the Texas Bar at the end of February so I am not licenced yet, but I have gone on a few interviews. So I am hopeful.  :)
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: echoko on March 12, 2009, 08:12:48 PM
So did anyone get a job from this service? 
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: omnipotens on March 12, 2009, 09:16:24 PM
I would be interested in finding out if this actually worked too.

Times are tough...paying someone 80 bucks to apply to extra places for me...might help out in the end.
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: TheDudeMan on March 13, 2009, 10:32:07 AM
I signed up with Firstlawjob about a month ago. I am taking the Texas Bar at the end of February so I am not licenced yet, but I have gone on a few interviews. So I am hopeful.  :)

You also went to UT and apparently have no prospects so that says something about your intelligence.
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: Miss P on March 13, 2009, 11:24:47 AM
I signed up with Firstlawjob about a month ago. I am taking the Texas Bar at the end of February so I am not licenced yet, but I have gone on a few interviews. So I am hopeful.  :)

You also went to UT and apparently have no prospects so that says something about your intelligence.

Apparently you're not going to Latham.  Seriously, where do you get off saying stuff like this in this economy?
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: TheDudeMan on March 13, 2009, 02:48:46 PM
I signed up with Firstlawjob about a month ago. I am taking the Texas Bar at the end of February so I am not licenced yet, but I have gone on a few interviews. So I am hopeful.  :)

You also went to UT and apparently have no prospects so that says something about your intelligence.

Apparently you're not going to Latham.  Seriously, where do you get off saying stuff like this in this economy?

If she went to Latham it would be unlikely she would use some TTT gimmick site to find work when she has a $75k stipend to ride out.

Miss P, don't you have doc review to do for your coveted PI career lol?
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: Miss P on March 13, 2009, 03:07:25 PM
I signed up with Firstlawjob about a month ago. I am taking the Texas Bar at the end of February so I am not licenced yet, but I have gone on a few interviews. So I am hopeful.  :)

You also went to UT and apparently have no prospects so that says something about your intelligence.

Apparently you're not going to Latham.  Seriously, where do you get off saying stuff like this in this economy?

If she went to Latham it would be unlikely she would use some TTT gimmick site to find work when she has a $75k stipend to ride out.

Miss P, don't you have doc review to do for your coveted PI career lol?

You've misunderstood me.  I said I assumed you weren't going to Latham, as in, you don't seem to be very in touch with how bad the job market is these days.  Let me see.  That means you're at Skadden.  Oops, no.  It must be Sidley?  No. . .

And personally, I won't ever have to do doc review.  But thanks for your concern. 
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: TheDudeMan on March 13, 2009, 04:10:32 PM
I signed up with Firstlawjob about a month ago. I am taking the Texas Bar at the end of February so I am not licenced yet, but I have gone on a few interviews. So I am hopeful.  :)

You also went to UT and apparently have no prospects so that says something about your intelligence.

Apparently you're not going to Latham.  Seriously, where do you get off saying stuff like this in this economy?

If she went to Latham it would be unlikely she would use some TTT gimmick site to find work when she has a $75k stipend to ride out.

Miss P, don't you have doc review to do for your coveted PI career lol?

You've misunderstood me.  I said I assumed you weren't going to Latham, as in, you don't seem to be very in touch with how bad the job market is these days.  Let me see.  That means you're at Skadden.  Oops, no.  It must be Sidley?  No. . .

And personally, I won't ever have to do doc review.  But thanks for your concern. 

Ahh, that's right.  You are doing uber prestigious PI work making those big bucks.....

Nope, I'm not at any of those firms that deferred and if I were (as some friends are), I wouldn't be using a gimmick site for work.  I'd be staying where I'm at now making my salary plus my fat stipend.  Sign me up.
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: Miss P on March 13, 2009, 04:34:35 PM
Ahh, that's right.  You are doing uber prestigious PI work making those big bucks.....

Am I supposed to killself over the plain fact that being a public defender is neither prestigious nor well compensated?  Somebody issue a press release!

I came to law school to start a career doing something that's interesting and meaningful to me, and I'm going to achieve that goal. I'm happy to be where I am.

Nope, I'm not at any of those firms that deferred and if I were (as some friends are), I wouldn't be using a gimmick site for work.  I'd be staying where I'm at now making my salary plus my fat stipend.  Sign me up.

Oh, right, you're a patent agent or something, right?  Well, bully for you.  A lot of our peers are in a much shittier position than either of us, through no (or little) fault of their own.  I certainly wouldn't assume that anyone from UT who was feeling antsy about finding work was a moron. You're a little high on yourself for someone who was desperately asking people for advice about professional resume editing services last summer. 
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: coquita on March 14, 2009, 01:48:33 PM
Dudeman's attitude is why people hate lawyers. I don't know whether to be upset by his cockiness or feel bad for him because he lacks the ability to empathize with others. Must be a pretty lonely feeling.

Seriously, there's nothing wrong with a student stuck in a crappy job market using every tool available to improve his chances.
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: haulin_oats on March 14, 2009, 02:56:20 PM
Guarantee that Dudeman doesn't have a job or a girlfriend.
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: thorc954 on March 14, 2009, 03:54:40 PM
Guarantee that Dudeman doesn't have a job or a girlfriend.

I think I actually met his girlfriend.  She was really cute.  Maybe I am wrong and it wasnt actually Dudeman, but I am pretty sure Im right.
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: "Legapp" Stands for "Legal Application" on March 23, 2009, 11:53:14 PM
I don't disagree re. dudeman's lack of empathy, but I do find it suspicious that this is UTlawgirl's first post... and it is shilling for a company.  Could she be related to that company, by chance?
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: Kirk Lazarus on March 24, 2009, 04:30:22 AM
Dudeman is just ignorant. I know 3Ls at YLS that are having trouble getting jobs ITE. Nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with the economy.

Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on March 24, 2009, 05:23:31 AM
Dudeman is just ignorant. I know 3Ls at YLS that are having trouble getting jobs ITE. Nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with the economy.

Getting or holding on to?
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: Kirk Lazarus on March 24, 2009, 05:41:27 AM
Dudeman is just ignorant. I know 3Ls at YLS that are having trouble getting jobs ITE. Nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with the economy.

Getting or holding on to?

Getting.
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: TheDudeMan on March 24, 2009, 06:25:01 AM
I don't buy that.  YLS students are never going to struggle to find work.  It's self-selection.  My guess is most YLS feel they are entitled to top vault firms and that's it.  Most probably don't even look at those outside the Vault 100.

If a YLS student contacted a mid-size, market paying firm, they'd jump all over them.  At the end of the day, law firms view lawyers as marketing tools.  YLS' JD carries a strong marketing pitch with it. 
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: Kirk Lazarus on March 24, 2009, 06:44:52 AM
I don't buy that.  YLS students are never going to struggle to find work.  It's self-selection.  My guess is most YLS feel they are entitled to top vault firms and that's it.  Most probably don't even look at those outside the Vault 100.

If a YLS student contacted a mid-size, market paying firm, they'd jump all over them.  At the end of the day, law firms view lawyers as marketing tools.  YLS' JD carries a strong marketing pitch with it. 

Your explanation sounds plausible and since I am not looking over people's shoulders to see what firms they are applying to, you could be right. The person I'm closest to in this situation, however, is looking in a specific market and is having difficulty finding a job.

But to qualm my own insecurities, do you think if a YLS student got an offer revoked because of the economy, he/she would have much trouble finding a firm job in a secondary market (South Carolina, NC, Georgia, etc)?
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: TheDudeMan on March 24, 2009, 07:24:03 AM
I don't doubt your statements with regards to those getting offers revoked.  It's tough out there.  Though, the reality is YLS are picky.  If they are really just trying to find a job, there is no reason why they wouldn't get SOMETHING paying market in a secondary city. 

It's all about the marketing.  The reality is, though, that I imagine many YLS students feel "above" many firms.  Not in this economy....
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on March 24, 2009, 08:31:53 AM
But to qualm my own insecurities, do you think if a YLS student got an offer revoked because of the economy, he/she would have much trouble finding a firm job in a secondary market (South Carolina, NC, Georgia, etc)?

I don't think you actually need to be worried about this, but I probably don't either and I am as well.  That said, I've found that a good way of dealing with my own insecurities is to start laying the groundwork for potential Plan B's.  A good strategy might be to figure out what firms are politically connected at the local level.  I would think that those would be the places most amenable to taking on ambitious YLS students.

Most probably don't even look at those outside the Vault 100.

Most probably don't realize that the Vault rankings go up to 100.
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: TheDudeMan on March 24, 2009, 08:47:09 AM
Or that firms outside of the Vault 100 still pay market salaries....
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: Miss P on March 24, 2009, 12:16:36 PM
I know several YLS alumni from bull years past who did not have jobs in the public interest world until April, May, and June.  It wouldn't surprise me if things are very tough for (even) YLS students who do not plan to go into biglaw and who do not have clerkships lined up.  Luckily, they have the Liman fellowship to fall back on, and I am sure the school will work with them to make sure they all have something to do.  It's still not a good year for anyone, and especially for people who do not have the same career goals and experience as some of you.
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: themanwithnoname on March 26, 2009, 02:00:50 PM
the trouble for YLS students in biglaw is that oftentimes the firms assume that they just want to work for a year, go get a clerkship, and go off to academia. With secondary markets I would worry about the perception that this is not a job that the applicant reqlly wants. That's the thing that a YLS student most has to overcome.
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on March 26, 2009, 04:04:38 PM
the trouble for YLS students in biglaw is that oftentimes the firms assume that they just want to work for a year, go get a clerkship, and go off to academia. With secondary markets I would worry about the perception that this is not a job that the applicant reqlly wants. That's the thing that a YLS student most has to overcome.

That's why I suggested a politically connected firm: they have something to offer that the YLS student might really want.
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick...May i suggest lawfirmconnect.com
Post by: reporter99 on August 26, 2009, 04:30:40 PM
User has been banned for spamming.

Why do people keep trying this?

-Nealric
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: Naked Promise on August 26, 2009, 05:36:49 PM
I have used lawfirmconnect.com, and it worked well for me, thankfully I received an nice offer and I will start working next month thanks to using the service.  I a recently graduated myself and with very little experience.  This is the best service in in the industry, forget about legal authority owned by a white collar criminal and firstlawjob who is owned by scott grady who used to own findlawjob - another white collar criminal who is disbarred

I really hope no one falls for this. I love that all 3 of his posts say the same thing. At least put some effort into it...geez.
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: PaleForce on August 26, 2009, 05:41:52 PM
I have used lawfirmconnect.com, and it worked well for me, thankfully I received an nice offer and I will start working next month thanks to using the service.  I a recently graduated myself and with very little experience.  This is the best service in in the industry, forget about legal authority owned by a white collar criminal and firstlawjob who is owned by scott grady who used to own findlawjob - another white collar criminal who is disbarred

I really hope no one falls for this. I love that all 3 of his posts say the same thing. At least put some effort into it...geez.

Gotta love copy and paste.
Title: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: Cathy12345 on November 08, 2009, 07:39:16 PM
Firstlawjob.com is a complete scam!!!

Do not waste a single cent on this so-called "job service". About two-months after I signed up with Firstlawjob.com, I emailed them to find out how many resumes they had sent out on my behalf. Firstlawjob.com refused to provide any information about their "services". When I asked them the most recent date they had sent out resumes on my behalf...again Firstlawjob.com refused to tell me anything. After receiving no answers from Firstlawjob.com, I requested a complete refund. Needless to say, they refused to give me a refund even though they could not provide any proof of services performed. As a side note, all communication is done by only email.

After all the research I did during law school...I failed to research this "service" before spending my money. Lesson learned!

Again...do not waste your money with Firstlawjob.com

P.S.  I've heard of another service called lawfirmconnect.com.  I'm am definitely researching them before investing.
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: Contract2008 on January 30, 2010, 08:52:19 PM
I don't buy that.  YLS students are never going to struggle to find work.  It's self-selection.  My guess is most YLS feel they are entitled to top vault firms and that's it.  Most probably don't even look at those outside the Vault 100.

If a YLS student contacted a mid-size, market paying firm, they'd jump all over them.  At the end of the day, law firms view lawyers as marketing tools.  YLS' JD carries a strong marketing pitch with it. 

Your explanation sounds plausible and since I am not looking over people's shoulders to see what firms they are applying to, you could be right. The person I'm closest to in this situation, however, is looking in a specific market and is having difficulty finding a job.

But to qualm my own insecurities, do you think if a YLS student got an offer revoked because of the economy, he/she would have much trouble finding a firm job in a secondary market (South Carolina, NC, Georgia, etc)?

Since when is South Carolina a secondary market?  I thought Dallas, St. Louis, Houston, etc. are secondary market.  I don't know of any market in South Carolina that's comparable to the cities I have mentioned. 
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: plumsmugler on February 18, 2010, 09:41:17 PM
So I go to a pretty good law school and my OCS posted this site on their Symplicity listings.  It's clearly a scam.  I also love how their pay structure totally incentivizes them to never find you a job.  Has anybody else had their OCS refer them to this bogus service?  It almost seems like our bad OCS is trying to schlep their responsibilities onto a third party service provider as well.
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: Colleen on March 03, 2010, 10:30:08 AM
DO NOT GIVE MONEY TO FIRSTLAWJOB.COM - IT IS A SCAM.  They take your money, then don't return emails, nor do they have a phone number listed.  DON'T BE A SUCKER LIKE ME.
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com
Post by: fsu2010 on March 09, 2010, 09:30:33 PM
I am a current client of firstlawjob.com and have been extremely happy with the results so far.  I am so boggled down with class work however my counselor has been in contact with me weekly and I have gone on 4 interviews in the last 3 weeks.  I canít wait for the studying to end!!  :)
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com
Post by: Contract2008 on March 10, 2010, 07:01:11 PM
I am a current client of firstlawjob.com and have been extremely happy with the results so far.  I am so boggled down with class work however my counselor has been in contact with me weekly and I have gone on 4 interviews in the last 3 weeks.  I canít wait for the studying to end!!  :)

What's your class rank?

What kind of firm?  Any offers?
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: txjd on March 17, 2010, 08:43:21 AM
I have been working with them for 2 months and overall I am quite impressed with the response I have been getting.  I am in my last semester at SMU law and have a few offers from firms in DFW.  Good luck to all!! 
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: TheDudeMan on March 17, 2010, 09:25:10 AM
Anyone else find it hilarious that the Trolls that have offers from working with this company all only have one post on the forum lol?
Title: Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
Post by: StonewallJacksonFan on March 20, 2010, 08:06:45 AM
I do! I do! Colleen, who is against the website also has one post though...