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Title: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Georgiagrad on January 25, 2009, 01:56:39 PM
I am stuck between Nova and Stetson. I have family that lives in S. Florida, so attending Nova would cost very little in terms of housing. I know that Stetson is supposedly more 'prestige', but is it worth paying the extra money to attend??? please give me some advice....

thanks
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: jarfrey juhraf on February 16, 2009, 02:03:30 PM
Good question. I don't know the answer, but I would like to hear it.

Where do you want to practice?
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: AJaKe on February 16, 2009, 04:08:23 PM
Have you already been accepted to both?

Stetson usually gives money out when your LSAT is 160+.

I live and work in the legal field in Tampa and I can honestly say I know of no attorneys that attended Nova.  It is like a Stetson alumni meeting where I work.  They are also nationally recognized for their Mock Trial team.  And I've heard from an Emory law grad that competing on Stetson's Mock Trial team makes you golden. (Exaggeration I am sure)

Frankly, Stetson just has the better name recognition.  Especially in the Tampa/St. Pete area which I consider SoFla...
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Contract2008 on February 23, 2009, 06:31:58 PM

Definately not Nova.  About 20% of their entering class will not receive a JD. 
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Jessica3303 on May 05, 2009, 11:54:22 PM
Have you already been accepted to both?

Stetson usually gives money out when your LSAT is 160+.

I live and work in the legal field in Tampa and I can honestly say I know of no attorneys that attended Nova.  It is like a Stetson alumni meeting where I work.  They are also nationally recognized for their Mock Trial team.  And I've heard from an Emory law grad that competing on Stetson's Mock Trial team makes you golden. (Exaggeration I am sure)

Frankly, Stetson just has the better name recognition.  Especially in the Tampa/St. Pete area which I consider SoFla...

Tampa and Saint Pete certainly are not considered south Florida. The most northern point that is still considered south Florida is Palm beach county. Tampa is more west central Florida.

Of course Stetson has more recognition in the Tampa/St. Pete area. The Tampa/St. Pete area is a very small area in comparison to the south Florida Tri-County area. Stetson is in a limited area, so it is common sense that the majority of the lawyers in that one particular area are either from Stetson or know of Stetson. I know that Stetson is known for their mock trial team, but that would only concern you if you are planning to be on the trial team. FYI being on the mock trial team takes up a huge amount of your time.

They are both pretty much on the "same playing field." If housing would be cheaper for you in south Florida, then I say go for it! Both schools are private and have very high tuitions. Saving money on housing would be a big help.

Finally, Nova is practically in between Broward and Dade county. Being in between the two "big" counties would have a lot more internship/employment opportunities than the Tampa area.

Just my two cents! ;D
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Ninja1 on May 06, 2009, 02:18:54 AM
Assuming no scholarships, probably Nova for the lower living expenses, though Stetson is the better school and you shouldn't discount that fact in making your decision.
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Contract2008 on May 06, 2009, 09:38:41 AM
Assuming no scholarships, probably Nova for the lower living expenses, though Stetson is the better school and you shouldn't discount that fact in making your decision.

Are you serious?  I assume their tuition are about the same.  If that's the case, definately Stetson, even with the added cost of rent.   

The better question is, did OP apply to FSU or UF?  If not or if didn't get in, why not apply to FIU?   
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Ninja1 on May 06, 2009, 07:45:58 PM
Assuming no scholarships, probably Nova for the lower living expenses, though Stetson is the better school and you shouldn't discount that fact in making your decision.

Are you serious?  I assume their tuition are about the same.  If that's the case, definately Stetson, even with the added cost of rent.   

The better question is, did OP apply to FSU or UF?  If not or if didn't get in, why not apply to FIU?   

Eh, like I said, Nova's cheaperness is nice, but he should still think about the fact Stetson is better.

Good question. FIU is probably the worst of the three, but not by too much and it's cheap as hell.
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Contract2008 on May 06, 2009, 08:14:34 PM
Assuming no scholarships, probably Nova for the lower living expenses, though Stetson is the better school and you shouldn't discount that fact in making your decision.

Are you serious?  I assume their tuition are about the same.  If that's the case, definately Stetson, even with the added cost of rent.   

The better question is, did OP apply to FSU or UF?  If not or if didn't get in, why not apply to FIU?   

Eh, like I said, Nova's cheaperness is nice, but he should still think about the fact Stetson is better.

Good question. FIU is probably the worst of the three, but not by too much and it's cheap as hell.

Stetson is about 25K per year, right?  FIU in-state is about 8K, right?  How much is Nova? 
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Ninja1 on May 06, 2009, 08:35:13 PM
Assuming no scholarships, probably Nova for the lower living expenses, though Stetson is the better school and you shouldn't discount that fact in making your decision.

Are you serious?  I assume their tuition are about the same.  If that's the case, definately Stetson, even with the added cost of rent.   

The better question is, did OP apply to FSU or UF?  If not or if didn't get in, why not apply to FIU?   

Eh, like I said, Nova's cheaperness is nice, but he should still think about the fact Stetson is better.

Good question. FIU is probably the worst of the three, but not by too much and it's cheap as hell.

Stetson is about 25K per year, right?  FIU in-state is about 8K, right?  How much is Nova? 

Nova and Stetson are both $29k. FIU in state is just under $10k, out of state is $24k.
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Contract2008 on May 06, 2009, 09:28:23 PM
Assuming no scholarships, probably Nova for the lower living expenses, though Stetson is the better school and you shouldn't discount that fact in making your decision.

Are you serious?  I assume their tuition are about the same.  If that's the case, definately Stetson, even with the added cost of rent.   

The better question is, did OP apply to FSU or UF?  If not or if didn't get in, why not apply to FIU?   

Eh, like I said, Nova's cheaperness is nice, but he should still think about the fact Stetson is better.

Good question. FIU is probably the worst of the three, but not by too much and it's cheap as hell.

Stetson is about 25K per year, right?  FIU in-state is about 8K, right?  How much is Nova? 

Nova and Stetson are both $29k. FIU in state is just under $10k, out of state is $24k.

Nova is a horrible risky investment. 
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Ninja1 on May 07, 2009, 02:26:37 AM
Assuming no scholarships, probably Nova for the lower living expenses, though Stetson is the better school and you shouldn't discount that fact in making your decision.

Are you serious?  I assume their tuition are about the same.  If that's the case, definately Stetson, even with the added cost of rent.   

The better question is, did OP apply to FSU or UF?  If not or if didn't get in, why not apply to FIU?   

Eh, like I said, Nova's cheaperness is nice, but he should still think about the fact Stetson is better.

Good question. FIU is probably the worst of the three, but not by too much and it's cheap as hell.

Stetson is about 25K per year, right?  FIU in-state is about 8K, right?  How much is Nova? 

Nova and Stetson are both $29k. FIU in state is just under $10k, out of state is $24k.

Nova is a horrible risky investment. 

But if OP can live with relatives while he's there, he can probably get out with a lot less debt from Nova which I think sort of balances it out.
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Contract2008 on May 07, 2009, 10:26:02 AM
Assuming no scholarships, probably Nova for the lower living expenses, though Stetson is the better school and you shouldn't discount that fact in making your decision.

Are you serious?  I assume their tuition are about the same.  If that's the case, definately Stetson, even with the added cost of rent.   

The better question is, did OP apply to FSU or UF?  If not or if didn't get in, why not apply to FIU?   

Eh, like I said, Nova's cheaperness is nice, but he should still think about the fact Stetson is better.

Good question. FIU is probably the worst of the three, but not by too much and it's cheap as hell.

Stetson is about 25K per year, right?  FIU in-state is about 8K, right?  How much is Nova? 

Nova and Stetson are both $29k. FIU in state is just under $10k, out of state is $24k.

Nova is a horrible risky investment. 

But if OP can live with relatives while he's there, he can probably get out with a lot less debt from Nova which I think sort of balances it out.

There is no balance out with schools like Nova where you pay nearly 30K per year for tuition.  They weed out tons of people every year. 

Ninja, where is your home town?  Do you intent to stay in certain town/erea after graduation or you're open to any market? 
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Ninja1 on May 08, 2009, 05:15:15 AM
Assuming no scholarships, probably Nova for the lower living expenses, though Stetson is the better school and you shouldn't discount that fact in making your decision.

Are you serious?  I assume their tuition are about the same.  If that's the case, definately Stetson, even with the added cost of rent.   

The better question is, did OP apply to FSU or UF?  If not or if didn't get in, why not apply to FIU?   

Eh, like I said, Nova's cheaperness is nice, but he should still think about the fact Stetson is better.

Good question. FIU is probably the worst of the three, but not by too much and it's cheap as hell.

Stetson is about 25K per year, right?  FIU in-state is about 8K, right?  How much is Nova? 

Nova and Stetson are both $29k. FIU in state is just under $10k, out of state is $24k.

Nova is a horrible risky investment. 

But if OP can live with relatives while he's there, he can probably get out with a lot less debt from Nova which I think sort of balances it out.

There is no balance out with schools like Nova where you pay nearly 30K per year for tuition.  They weed out tons of people every year. 

Ninja, where is your home town?  Do you intent to stay in certain town/erea after graduation or you're open to any market? 

Fair enough.

My hometown is far from Tallahassee. I'm open to anywhere after I graduate, but I'd prefer to stay in Tallahassee or at least Florida.
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Contract2008 on May 08, 2009, 10:12:26 AM
Assuming no scholarships, probably Nova for the lower living expenses, though Stetson is the better school and you shouldn't discount that fact in making your decision.

Are you serious?  I assume their tuition are about the same.  If that's the case, definately Stetson, even with the added cost of rent.   

The better question is, did OP apply to FSU or UF?  If not or if didn't get in, why not apply to FIU?   

Eh, like I said, Nova's cheaperness is nice, but he should still think about the fact Stetson is better.

Good question. FIU is probably the worst of the three, but not by too much and it's cheap as hell.

Stetson is about 25K per year, right?  FIU in-state is about 8K, right?  How much is Nova? 

Nova and Stetson are both $29k. FIU in state is just under $10k, out of state is $24k.

Nova is a horrible risky investment. 

But if OP can live with relatives while he's there, he can probably get out with a lot less debt from Nova which I think sort of balances it out.

There is no balance out with schools like Nova where you pay nearly 30K per year for tuition.  They weed out tons of people every year. 

Ninja, where is your home town?  Do you intent to stay in certain town/erea after graduation or you're open to any market? 

Fair enough.

My hometown is far from Tallahassee. I'm open to anywhere after I graduate, but I'd prefer to stay in Tallahassee or at least Florida.

What state is your hometown?
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Ninja1 on May 11, 2009, 07:30:42 AM
Assuming no scholarships, probably Nova for the lower living expenses, though Stetson is the better school and you shouldn't discount that fact in making your decision.

Are you serious?  I assume their tuition are about the same.  If that's the case, definately Stetson, even with the added cost of rent.   

The better question is, did OP apply to FSU or UF?  If not or if didn't get in, why not apply to FIU?   

Eh, like I said, Nova's cheaperness is nice, but he should still think about the fact Stetson is better.

Good question. FIU is probably the worst of the three, but not by too much and it's cheap as hell.

Stetson is about 25K per year, right?  FIU in-state is about 8K, right?  How much is Nova? 

Nova and Stetson are both $29k. FIU in state is just under $10k, out of state is $24k.

Nova is a horrible risky investment. 

But if OP can live with relatives while he's there, he can probably get out with a lot less debt from Nova which I think sort of balances it out.

There is no balance out with schools like Nova where you pay nearly 30K per year for tuition.  They weed out tons of people every year. 

Ninja, where is your home town?  Do you intent to stay in certain town/erea after graduation or you're open to any market? 

Fair enough.

My hometown is far from Tallahassee. I'm open to anywhere after I graduate, but I'd prefer to stay in Tallahassee or at least Florida.

What state is your hometown?

Somewhere to the West.
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Contract2008 on May 11, 2009, 10:33:28 AM
Assuming no scholarships, probably Nova for the lower living expenses, though Stetson is the better school and you shouldn't discount that fact in making your decision.

Are you serious?  I assume their tuition are about the same.  If that's the case, definately Stetson, even with the added cost of rent.   

The better question is, did OP apply to FSU or UF?  If not or if didn't get in, why not apply to FIU?   

Eh, like I said, Nova's cheaperness is nice, but he should still think about the fact Stetson is better.

Good question. FIU is probably the worst of the three, but not by too much and it's cheap as hell.

Stetson is about 25K per year, right?  FIU in-state is about 8K, right?  How much is Nova? 

Nova and Stetson are both $29k. FIU in state is just under $10k, out of state is $24k.

Nova is a horrible risky investment. 

But if OP can live with relatives while he's there, he can probably get out with a lot less debt from Nova which I think sort of balances it out.

There is no balance out with schools like Nova where you pay nearly 30K per year for tuition.  They weed out tons of people every year. 

Ninja, where is your home town?  Do you intent to stay in certain town/erea after graduation or you're open to any market? 

Fair enough.

My hometown is far from Tallahassee. I'm open to anywhere after I graduate, but I'd prefer to stay in Tallahassee or at least Florida.

What state is your hometown?

Somewhere to the West.

How and why did you end up at FSU?  Are you getting in-state tuition for your remaining two years?
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Ninja1 on May 11, 2009, 02:24:41 PM
Assuming no scholarships, probably Nova for the lower living expenses, though Stetson is the better school and you shouldn't discount that fact in making your decision.

Are you serious?  I assume their tuition are about the same.  If that's the case, definately Stetson, even with the added cost of rent.   

The better question is, did OP apply to FSU or UF?  If not or if didn't get in, why not apply to FIU?   

Eh, like I said, Nova's cheaperness is nice, but he should still think about the fact Stetson is better.

Good question. FIU is probably the worst of the three, but not by too much and it's cheap as hell.

Stetson is about 25K per year, right?  FIU in-state is about 8K, right?  How much is Nova? 

Nova and Stetson are both $29k. FIU in state is just under $10k, out of state is $24k.

Nova is a horrible risky investment. 

But if OP can live with relatives while he's there, he can probably get out with a lot less debt from Nova which I think sort of balances it out.

There is no balance out with schools like Nova where you pay nearly 30K per year for tuition.  They weed out tons of people every year. 

Ninja, where is your home town?  Do you intent to stay in certain town/erea after graduation or you're open to any market? 

Fair enough.

My hometown is far from Tallahassee. I'm open to anywhere after I graduate, but I'd prefer to stay in Tallahassee or at least Florida.

What state is your hometown?

Somewhere to the West.

How and why did you end up at FSU?  Are you getting in-state tuition for your remaining two years?

I just always wanted to move to Florida and go to FSU, so I decided to give it a shot for law school and it paid off.

I'd better be getting in-state my last two years. :)
Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: Contract2008 on May 18, 2009, 10:41:38 PM


Tampa and Saint Pete certainly are not considered south Florida. The most northern point that is still considered south Florida is Palm beach county. Tampa is more west central Florida.

Of course Stetson has more recognition in the Tampa/St. Pete area. The Tampa/St. Pete area is a very small area in comparison to the south Florida Tri-County area. Stetson is in a limited area, so it is common sense that the majority of the lawyers in that one particular area are either from Stetson or know of Stetson. I know that Stetson is known for their mock trial team, but that would only concern you if you are planning to be on the trial team. FYI being on the mock trial team takes up a huge amount of your time.

They are both pretty much on the "same playing field." If housing would be cheaper for you in south Florida, then I say go for it! Both schools are private and have very high tuitions. Saving money on housing would be a big help.

Finally, Nova is practically in between Broward and Dade county. Being in between the two "big" counties would have a lot more internship/employment opportunities than the Tampa area.

Just my two cents! ;D

I thought you're a pre-law. 

Mock trial team doesn't take as much time as moot court team, internship with a judge, or law review. 

Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: taxguy on June 10, 2010, 09:21:24 AM
We actually visited Stetson and found it to be a much better school than its tier 3 rankings would indicate. It my surprise you to know that Stetson is ranked number one in the country for trial advocacy. Yes, I am not making it up. It's legal writing program is ranked at number 5. It has a strong program in Elder Law,  and decent tax law offering. It really should be considered.

Moreover, I got a very nurturing feel from Stetson that I didn't get from other schools such as Miami, which has a much higher ranking.

Title: Re: Nova or Stetson????
Post by: bigs5068 on June 10, 2010, 11:36:14 AM
Contract kept saying Nova kicks out 20% of their class again that is not true. They had 20% attrition rate, but 10% or so transferred out to higher ranked schools. You have to look at the difference between academic and other when looking at the LSAC attrition rates. If it is other then they did not fail out people either transferred, decided they did not like law school, or possibly got lucrative job offer in some other profession, had family problems and god only knows what other could entail. However, no school has a mandatory kick out rate. Why would they do that? Tier 4 schools are not part of some evil scam to put people in law school and kick them out. Why would they even do that? The schools want student's money they are a business at the end of the day, so why would they have a mandatory kick out rate. If after a year of law school a student does look like they can even come close to passing the bar they have to be kicked out that is part of ABA guidelines. It is the right thing to do if they kept them in for another two years and took their money knowing they couldn't pass the bar that would be WRONG and that is why the ABA imposes that restriction.

It would be like a personal trainer going up to a 5'6 slow white guy and telling the 5'6 guy to pay  him 30,000 a year so he has a shot at the NBA. That would be wrong.

At the end of the day law school is what YOU make of it. The name of your school really does not matter all that much unless you go to an elite school like Harvard.  At my internship currently people all go to different schools some ranked way higher than others. I am a 1L and there are some 2L interns and do you know where the 2L who all the attorney's like the most went to school? None other than Florida Coastal  far from an elite school, but he did a good job the year before and all the attorney's in the office love him. It was what HE made of his internship not the name of his school that got him a position etc. He is only 2L intern with an office he does good work and knows he what he is doing there are numerous other 2L interns, but during our training session they all told us to go to him because they he knows what he is doing. Other 2L interns go to Hastings, Santa Clara and just higher ranked schools, but clearly the attorney's don't think as highly of those interns as they do about the guy from Florida Coastal.