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Title: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: CTL on January 19, 2009, 01:24:50 PM
Welcome!
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: CTL on March 16, 2009, 10:26:56 AM
bump
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: sheltron5000 on April 06, 2009, 01:19:12 PM
Hey, hey!
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: CTL on April 06, 2009, 01:19:51 PM
Quite the underrepresented thread...
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: mbw on April 06, 2009, 01:28:03 PM
I figured I'd drop in to add some diversity. 










But the answer is still probably no ;).
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: CTL on April 06, 2009, 01:33:28 PM
You know if you do decide on Cornell I'm going to tease you for three years and call you Minnesota. 
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: sheltron5000 on April 06, 2009, 02:50:55 PM
oooooh good one como!

Unfortunately, I have to tell you that everytime I read you SN I think of "comb-over"

ION: Where is everyone?
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: PreLawBootCamp on April 07, 2009, 05:20:29 PM
Congratulations, guys.  You will have a great experience there.
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: Aluhks on April 09, 2009, 07:48:13 PM
Cornell 1L here. If you have any questions about what the first year is like, I'd be happy to answer
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: VirusNY on April 12, 2009, 08:01:26 AM
Bumping the thread for new Cornellians. Cornell 1L here too.
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: YouShouldFeelPrivileged on April 12, 2009, 09:33:46 AM
Cornell 0L  ;D

Oh hey, for the 1Ls, how hard is it to find housing and how soon should I be looking???
Thanks
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: Aluhks on April 12, 2009, 02:31:29 PM
I visited Ithaca in May for one weekend and was able to find an excellent apartment easily. I would suggest starting the search soon, and if possible, coming to look in person. The actual quality of apartments here can vary wildly even within the same neighborhood.

I also suggest avoiding Collegetown. Collegetown may be close to Cornell, but the rents are way higher than they ought to be and the apartments are not nearly as nice as other places. Plus Ithaca is small enough that the difference in commuting time to get to school is negligible.

Cornell's listings of graduate housing (there's a link buried somewhere on Cornell Law's website) are pretty comprehensive.
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: YouShouldFeelPrivileged on April 12, 2009, 02:46:03 PM
I visited Ithaca in May for one weekend and was able to find an excellent apartment easily. I would suggest starting the search soon, and if possible, coming to look in person. The actual quality of apartments here can vary wildly even within the same neighborhood.

I also suggest avoiding Collegetown. Collegetown may be close to Cornell, but the rents are way higher than they ought to be and the apartments are not nearly as nice as other places. Plus Ithaca is small enough that the difference in commuting time to get to school is negligible.

Cornell's listings of graduate housing (there's a link buried somewhere on Cornell Law's website) are pretty comprehensive.

Thanks for the advice!  I was thinking the same thing about Collegetown, so I'm glad to have a second opinion in line with my own.  I am heading up Thursday after next, I think, soonest I can go  :( I take it you went the graduate housing route rather than independently owned?  Whereabouts do you stay and how do you like it, if you don't mind my asking.  We can take this to PM also if you'd like/I appreciate whatever advice/insight you can give.
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: Aluhks on April 12, 2009, 02:58:23 PM
Actually, I did end up in a privately owned apartment. Many of the apartments listed on Cornell's site are actually privately owned, but advertised for grad students because the landlords like us better than undergrads. Also, many of the landlords listing via Cornell's site may have other properties available.

I live at the very bottom of Collegetown, right where it runs in to the Commons/downtown. I like it immensely. The bus stop is about a block from my place (10 min. bus ride to school/15 minute walk), I'm walking distance from the better Ithaca bars (Commons bars are usually more fun than the Collegetown bars), walking distance from a grocery store, and so on.

My main insights on apartment hunting:
1. Only look at apartments where the landlord pays for the heating. Don't worry about what other utilities the landlord does or doesn't pay. Make sure they pay for the heat. First off, if they don't, you will get stuck with a lot more bills than you expect. Secondly, if they pay for the heat, they have incentive to have maintained the insulation well.

2. If you come looking now, there will be lots of options. This means you can be picky, especially about not renting in buildings/houses that also rent out to undergrads. Most of the landlords here prefer grad students and completely understand why they might want grad-student only housing. Be upfront about it if you want grad-student only places.
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: YouShouldFeelPrivileged on April 12, 2009, 03:08:37 PM
Actually, I did end up in a privately owned apartment. Many of the apartments listed on Cornell's site are actually privately owned, but advertised for grad students because the landlords like us better than undergrads. Also, many of the landlords listing via Cornell's site may have other properties available.

I live at the very bottom of Collegetown, right where it runs in to the Commons/downtown. I like it immensely. The bus stop is about a block from my place (10 min. bus ride to school/15 minute walk), I'm walking distance from the better Ithaca bars (Commons bars are usually more fun than the Collegetown bars), walking distance from a grocery store, and so on.

My main insights on apartment hunting:
1. Only look at apartments where the landlord pays for the heating. Don't worry about what other utilities the landlord does or doesn't pay. Make sure they pay for the heat. First off, if they don't, you will get stuck with a lot more bills than you expect. Secondly, if they pay for the heat, they have incentive to have maintained the insulation well.

2. If you come looking now, there will be lots of options. This means you can be picky, especially about not renting in buildings/houses that also rent out to undergrads. Most of the landlords here prefer grad students and completely understand why they might want grad-student only housing. Be upfront about it if you want grad-student only places.

Good info, thanks a bunch! One more thing...I see a lot of 2+bedroom advertisements, but ideally I would like a 1-bedroom to nix any possible roommate drama; do you know if it is very difficult to find a nice, affordable 1br apartment?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: VirusNY on April 12, 2009, 10:02:39 PM
Just to throw a couple of sentences about living in Ithaca. As a 1L this year I have been living in Hughes Hall. Despite what some people say, it is not too bad over here. I live in a "suite" with two other guys. We each have our own rooms, but we share one bathroom (although so far haven't had any problems with that).

Now as for apartments, I will be living in the Valentine Apartments next year, which is about 10-15 minutes walking from school. They provide a morning shuttle every 20 minutes but you'd have to walk back. I got a one bedroom for $745, but it does not include electricity (and hence no heating is paid for). The electric company here can charge you a flat rate per month which comes to $110 for my apartment. So, my rent next year will be $855 including everything (internet, parking, etc were included in the rent). The real estate agency that gives out these apartments (many apartments available until classes start) is named Novarr-Mackesey. Anyway, do not worry about housing. You can find something the day before classes begin if you want to. You can just take a walk around and ask any of the houses you see about whether they are renting out apartments. They mostly are. Good luck!
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: Aluhks on April 12, 2009, 10:17:27 PM
Valentine is that expensive? Wow. Nice apartments though.

Couple of other decent property managers:
Haag Properties (my landlord)
Beers Property - they have a bunch of houses in various parts of Collegetown

The good thing about Ithaca is that as long as you live anywhere in town, you're going to be only a short walk or bus ride from school.
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: sheltron5000 on April 12, 2009, 11:25:05 PM
thanks for the tips everyone.
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: YouShouldFeelPrivileged on April 12, 2009, 11:38:01 PM
Just to throw a couple of sentences about living in Ithaca. As a 1L this year I have been living in Hughes Hall. Despite what some people say, it is not too bad over here. I live in a "suite" with two other guys. We each have our own rooms, but we share one bathroom (although so far haven't had any problems with that).

Now as for apartments, I will be living in the Valentine Apartments next year, which is about 10-15 minutes walking from school. They provide a morning shuttle every 20 minutes but you'd have to walk back. I got a one bedroom for $745, but it does not include electricity (and hence no heating is paid for). The electric company here can charge you a flat rate per month which comes to $110 for my apartment. So, my rent next year will be $855 including everything (internet, parking, etc were included in the rent). The real estate agency that gives out these apartments (many apartments available until classes start) is named Novarr-Mackesey. Anyway, do not worry about housing. You can find something the day before classes begin if you want to. You can just take a walk around and ask any of the houses you see about whether they are renting out apartments. They mostly are. Good luck!

Thank you!  It's a good thing to know I won't have too much trouble finding a place to stay  :D
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: vandy09eng on April 13, 2009, 02:01:38 AM
Officially attending Cornell in the fall! Unfortunately, I missed the admitted student weekends...

1Ls, do I need a car in Ithaca and will I have trouble finding a roommate if I didnt attend any ASW?
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: Aluhks on April 13, 2009, 07:07:54 AM
Officially attending Cornell in the fall! Unfortunately, I missed the admitted student weekends...

1Ls, do I need a car in Ithaca and will I have trouble finding a roommate if I didnt attend any ASW?

You don't need a car. Getting to Wegman's, the primary grocery store, without one will be inconvenient. Otherwise you don't need one. I have a car but probably drive once a week at most.

Last year someone set up a Cornell Class of 2011 Facebook group early on, and a number of people used it for roommate finding.
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: sheltron5000 on April 13, 2009, 10:45:44 AM
My sense of Ithaca is a genuine need for car, unless you REALLY don't mind busing everywhere or asking other people for rides.

I can handle busing to class, but not to the grocery store.

However, there is a car share program, like zipcar, it's called ithaca car share, google it, which is my plan.
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: VirusNY on April 14, 2009, 06:27:45 AM
I also have a car but only use it about once a week. Going to Wegmans is probably a pain without a car, but people usually take their friends with them when they go. I've given lots of people rides to Wegmans this year. One of the good things about Cornell is the great sense of community you get here. There's one or two gunners, but outside of class even they are nice and noncompetitive.
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: CTL on April 16, 2009, 06:28:07 AM
There will certainly be plenty of sailing for interested parties.  I can't wait to get a few shades darker.  Right now I reflect a lot of light.
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: YouShouldFeelPrivileged on April 26, 2009, 11:14:03 PM
So, no wireless access in classrooms (to prevent Facebooking/LSDing/and general time wasting during class)...how does this work?  Are the classrooms guaranteed dead zones, or is there a way around it?  How do you feel about this (current students); is it inconvenient at all?

As it was explained to me, I don't really see it as a bad thing.  In undergrad I sometimes use the net to pull up articles or what not related to class discussion, or look up an obscure fact/event that the prof is harping on about.  However, it can also be a BIG distraction if I let it  :-\ so I think that "no wireless in classrooms" is probably a smart move on Cornell's part, but I'm just interested in your thoughts and how it actually works...
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: eyeoftheligrr on April 28, 2009, 05:29:22 PM
Does Cornell require your parents' financial info to be considered for need based aid?  I'm pretty sure Michigan does not and I'm trying to find out where other schools stand.
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: YouShouldFeelPrivileged on April 28, 2009, 06:07:08 PM
Does Cornell require your parents' financial info to be considered for need based aid?  I'm pretty sure Michigan does not and I'm trying to find out where other schools stand.

Cornell absolutely does; at least they did for me.  Both parents, even if they are separated/divorced.
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: eyeoftheligrr on April 28, 2009, 06:17:16 PM
Thanks... that seems to be the norm.
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: YouShouldFeelPrivileged on April 28, 2009, 06:20:18 PM
No problem  ;)
Title: Re: Cornell Class of 2012
Post by: eyeoftheligrr on April 28, 2009, 06:31:37 PM
Your lsn is conspicuously absent. Did I read somewhere that you were awarded a scholarship?  Mind sharing your numbers?