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Title: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Elephant Lee on November 22, 2008, 10:28:36 PM
http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx

What's your score?
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: This is wrong. on November 22, 2008, 10:33:52 PM
0
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: goaliechica on November 22, 2008, 10:44:40 PM
87.88%

I thought the President could declare war all on his own. Whoops!
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: This is wrong. on November 22, 2008, 10:49:00 PM
Some of the questions were phrased poorly, or the answers a little vague. Still, interesting quiz.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: just Trev on November 22, 2008, 10:49:27 PM
72.3%...shoulda done better, but that's what a JD/MBA is for, right?  i was a theology major after all...
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Miss P on November 22, 2008, 10:52:14 PM
I got one wrong.   Surprise, surprise, it was one of the ones about the superiority of capitalism.  (96.97%)
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Miss P on November 22, 2008, 10:54:00 PM
Some of the questions were phrased poorly, or the answers a little vague.

Totally!  I'm surprised I got some of the ones at the end right.  They were really weird.

87.88%

I thought the President could declare war all on his own. Whoops!

You're in the company of some very powerful people, including our Vice President. :)

ETA: Wait, was that a clever joke that my literal brain missed?  Eesh, I'm such an ass sometimes.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Jamie Stringer on November 22, 2008, 10:57:48 PM
81.82%.  Unsurprisingly, the questions I missed were about economics, not government or history.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Elephant Lee on November 22, 2008, 11:03:00 PM
I got the "govt for the people" and govt spending/taxation parity one wrong. I think that one almost has 2 correct answers.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Miss P on November 22, 2008, 11:06:47 PM
I got the "govt for the people" and govt spending/taxation parity one wrong. I think that one almost has 2 correct answers.

I thought the same.  Or no correct answers.  I also thought there were no correct answers to these:


13)   Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas would concur that . . .

27)   Free markets typically secure more economic prosperity than government’s centralized planning because . . .

And two nearly correct answers to this:

25)   Free enterprise or capitalism exists insofar as . . . (B & E)
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: goaliechica on November 22, 2008, 11:07:49 PM
I got one wrong.   Surprise, surprise, it was one of the ones about the superiority of capitalism.  (96.97%)

 :D

Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: This is wrong. on November 22, 2008, 11:18:15 PM
I got one wrong.   Surprise, surprise, it was one of the ones about the superiority of capitalism.  (96.97%)

 :D



I exclaimed the same thing (to myself)!

::exclaims!::
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 05:31:23 AM
87.88%

I thought the President could declare war all on his own. Whoops!

technically speaking, congress not declare war since ww ii.

or did you mean make joke?
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 05:38:19 AM
Some of the questions were phrased poorly, or the answers a little vague. Still, interesting quiz.

julie agree at least as to question about powers of fed government.  julie got "right," as feds clearly have explicit power make treaties.  however, feds also have explicit power levy income tax.  julie choose "treaties" because not by amendment.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 05:44:11 AM
I got the "govt for the people" and govt spending/taxation parity one wrong. I think that one almost has 2 correct answers.

what, arguing answer not clearly d?

 If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

nothing else even close.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 05:47:43 AM
I got the "govt for the people" and govt spending/taxation parity one wrong. I think that one almost has 2 correct answers.

I thought the same. Or no correct answers. I also thought there were no correct answers to these:


13) Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas would concur that . . .


13)   Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas would concur that:
A. all moral and political truth is relative to one’s time and place
B. moral ideas are best explained as material accidents or byproducts of evolution
C. values originating in one’s conscience cannot be judged by others
D. Christianity is the only true religion and should rule the state
E. certain permanent moral and political truths are accessible to human reason

this not julie's strongest area, but all three not say e?
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 05:51:16 AM

I thought the same. Or no correct answers. I also thought there were no correct answers to these:


27) Free markets typically secure more economic prosperity than government’s centralized planning because . . .


this not julie's strongest area either, but what your criticism of a?

27)   Free markets typically secure more economic prosperity than government’s centralized planning because:
A. the price system utilizes more local knowledge of means and ends
B. markets rely upon coercion, whereas government relies upon voluntary compliance with the law
C. more tax revenue can be generated from free enterprise
D. property rights and contracts are best enforced by the market system
E. government planners are too cautious in spending taxpayers’ money
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 05:54:54 AM

And two nearly correct answers to this:

25) Free enterprise or capitalism exists insofar as . . . (B & E)


what your problem with b?  what your other neat-choice, e?--as, presumably, socialist critique of government role in capitalism?

25)   Free enterprise or capitalism exists insofar as:
A. experts managing the nation’s commerce are appointed by elected officials
B. individual citizens create, exchange, and control goods and resources
C. charity, philanthropy, and volunteering decrease
D. demand and supply are decided through majority vote
E. government implements policies that favor businesses over consumers
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: nealric on November 23, 2008, 06:56:26 AM
Just FYI: The organization that puts this out is known to be fairly conservative.

Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Matthies on November 23, 2008, 07:12:53 AM
31 out of 33 correctly — 93.94 %

I missed Question #7 - D. Gettysburg Address and Question #33 - D. tax per person equals government spending per person
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Elephant Lee on November 23, 2008, 07:29:16 AM
I got the "govt for the people" and govt spending/taxation parity one wrong. I think that one almost has 2 correct answers.

what, arguing answer not clearly d?

 If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

nothing else even close.
A would be right if it said deficit instead of debt, no?
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Elephant Lee on November 23, 2008, 07:31:48 AM
Just FYI: The organization that puts this out is known to be fairly conservative.
That seems apparent in the questions.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Elephant Lee on November 23, 2008, 07:32:12 AM
31 out of 33 correctly — 93.94 %

I missed Question #7 - D. Gettysburg Address and Question #33 - D. tax per person equals government spending per person

Good company.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Matthies on November 23, 2008, 07:38:23 AM
I got the "govt for the people" and govt spending/taxation parity one wrong. I think that one almost has 2 correct answers.

what, arguing answer not clearly d?

 If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

nothing else even close.
A would be right if it said deficit instead of debt, no?

I answered A, that was my thinking spending = income, but hindsight it does not account for any earlier borowing or intrest owned on loans
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: nealric on November 23, 2008, 07:40:33 AM
Supposedly the pass rate at Harvard was only in the 60% range. I'm highly skeptical.

BTW: got 2 wrong: Gettysburg address + Lincoln/Douglass debates (kind of embarrassing since I read passages last year).
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Matthies on November 23, 2008, 07:42:17 AM
Supposedly the pass rate at Harvard was only in the 60% range. I'm highly skeptical.

BTW: got 2 wrong: Gettysburg address + Lincoln/Douglass debates (kind of embarrassing since I read passages last year).

I think for a few of those you need to be more a history buff than a civics buff, the other one I missed was the Gettysburg adress, and I was really on the fence with that one
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: nealric on November 23, 2008, 08:01:03 AM
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ETA:  Only 1 in 5 people who took the survey knew who the Puritans were, apparently.  WhereTF were the other 4 during high school?
 

I'm guessing they fell for the sucker answer of: "supported religious freedom for everyone" (or the one that was something like that)
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 08:37:00 AM
I got the "govt for the people" and govt spending/taxation parity one wrong. I think that one almost has 2 correct answers.

what, arguing answer not clearly d?

 If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

nothing else even close.
A would be right if it said deficit instead of debt, no?

yes, but it not, no?
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 08:39:16 AM
31 out of 33 correctly — 93.94 %

I missed Question #7 - D. Gettysburg Address and Question #33 - D. tax per person equals government spending per person


I almost missed 33, however Answer (A) ignores borrowing.

but that would not make sense.  you borrow in order spend.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 08:40:16 AM
I got the "govt for the people" and govt spending/taxation parity one wrong. I think that one almost has 2 correct answers.

what, arguing answer not clearly d?

 If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

nothing else even close.
A would be right if it said deficit instead of debt, no?

I answered A, that was my thinking spending = income, but hindsight it does not account for any earlier borowing or intrest owned on loans

exactly.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 08:41:46 AM
Ah, right, when in doubt, "'MERICA THE FREE!!!!1!"

This is are country.

yes, it are.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Miss P on November 23, 2008, 09:26:01 AM
what, arguing answer not clearly d?

 If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

nothing else even close.

D is, of course, the closest to correct -- and on the plain language it's just the distributive property -- but it doesn't tell you anything about civics or government.  A lot of that government spending would have to be debt service, and "tax per person" is a fairly meaningless measurement when so many people do not pay taxes.  


13)   Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas would concur that:
...
this not julie's strongest area, but all three not say e?

There are actually four there!  It's not my strongest area, either, and admittedly we have very little direct evidence of what Socrates believed, but there's no clear evidence that he would concur.

this not julie's strongest area either, but what your criticism of a?

27)   Free markets typically secure more economic prosperity than government’s centralized planning because:
A. the price system utilizes more local knowledge of means and ends
B. markets rely upon coercion, whereas government relies upon voluntary compliance with the law
C. more tax revenue can be generated from free enterprise
D. property rights and contracts are best enforced by the market system
E. government planners are too cautious in spending taxpayers’ money

There's no inherent reason that A is true, but neoclassical economics accepts it as axiomatic.  Also, as a practical matter, the price system also fails sometimes.  I thought E was at least as close to being true (if more ridiculously laden with free market dogma).  A huge reason capitalist economies have experienced such tremendous expansion is because the profit motive spurs capital investment beyond what is required to address human need.

And two nearly correct answers to this:

25) Free enterprise or capitalism exists insofar as . . . (B & E)


what your problem with b?  what your other neat-choice, e?--as, presumably, socialist critique of government role in capitalism?

25)   Free enterprise or capitalism exists insofar as:
A. experts managing the nation’s commerce are appointed by elected officials
B. individual citizens create, exchange, and control goods and resources
C. charity, philanthropy, and volunteering decrease
D. demand and supply are decided through majority vote
E. government implements policies that favor businesses over consumers

I answered B because I knew that it was the credited response.  Nonetheless, it's not very accurate in the context of modern capitalism which has very little to do with "individual citizens" creating and controlling goods and resources.  Perhaps if it specified "corporate citizens."  

I think E is just as valid: modern capitalism exists only to the extent that government policies favor businesses.  If they favored consumers, we would have a much more tightly regulated economy.

Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Miss P on November 23, 2008, 09:27:40 AM
::superiors::

:P 
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Susan B. Anthony on November 23, 2008, 09:55:06 AM
31 out of 33 correctly — 93.94 %

I missed Question #7 - D. Gettysburg Address and Question #33 - D. tax per person equals government spending per person

Good company.

Me three!

I was totally shocked I got the "omg capitalism is so awesome" question right, mostly because I was too busy drawing pictures of Mr. Moneybags in econ to learn anything.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Private David Lewis on November 23, 2008, 10:22:42 AM
I got one wrong.   Surprise, surprise, it was one of the ones about the superiority of capitalism.  (96.97%)

Me too!  Although I missed the one about the Lincoln-Douglas debates.  Hopefully you have learned your lesson re: superiority of capitalism! 
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 10:32:47 AM
what, arguing answer not clearly d?

 If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

nothing else even close.

D is, of course, the closest to correct -- and on the plain language it's just the distributive property -- but it doesn't tell you anything about civics or government. A lot of that government spending would have to be debt service, and "tax per person" is a fairly meaningless measurement when so many people do not pay taxes.


it do say something about civics and government, whatever quizzers' motivation.  debt service spending also.  "per person" mean per capita;  no basis for assuming mean everyone pay exactly same tax.

smart test-makers always have out:  directions should say choose best answer.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Miss P on November 23, 2008, 10:34:43 AM
what, arguing answer not clearly d?

 If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

nothing else even close.

D is, of course, the closest to correct -- and on the plain language it's just the distributive property -- but it doesn't tell you anything about civics or government. A lot of that government spending would have to be debt service, and "tax per person" is a fairly meaningless measurement when so many people do not pay taxes.


it do say something about civics and government, whatever quizzers' motivation.  debt service spending also.  "per person" mean per capita;  no basis for assuming mean everyone pay exactly same tax.

smart test-makers always have out:  directions should say choose best answer.

As I did.  But if I were writing a test, I'd try to have the answers be both entirely correct and something more than arithmetic. 

ETA: My point is that if the question said, "If baseball bats equal baseballs, then . . . baseball bats per person equal baseballs per person," it would be just as correct, and similarly meaningful.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 10:36:13 AM
13) Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas would concur that:
...
this not julie's strongest area, but all three not say e?

There are actually four there! It's not my strongest area, either, and admittedly we have very little direct evidence of what Socrates believed, but there's no clear evidence that he would concur.


yes, four.  julie just testing you!

may be should ask our resident socratites.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: nealric on November 23, 2008, 10:37:16 AM
The philosopher question was kind of redundant.

Pretty much all we know about the philosophy of Socrates is through the writings of Plato. They really can't be distinguished ideologically.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: goaliechica on November 23, 2008, 10:37:42 AM
may be should ask our resident socratites.

 :D

Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Miss P on November 23, 2008, 10:39:22 AM
The philosopher question was kind of redundant.

Pretty much all we know about the philosophy of Socrates is through the writings of Plato. They really can't be distinguished ideologically.

Except via other contemporary accounts of Socrates -- in which he said things along the lines of "All that's knowable is the extent of one's ignorance."
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: nealric on November 23, 2008, 11:07:37 AM
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Except via other contemporary accounts of Socrates -- in which he said things along the lines of "All that's knowable is the extent of one's ignorance."

Such quotes are apocryphal.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Jamie Stringer on November 23, 2008, 11:10:24 AM
What's funny to me about this whole quiz is that high school students might know more of the answers if it wasn't for "reforms" like No Child Left Behind, which stresses test scores (not content knowledge) and only in English and Math.  Also, state standards don't really allow for too much teaching of pre-Civil War history -- they figure kids should have learned this in the 8th grade (at least in my state). 


I'm glad this quiz points out what many educators already know.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Miss P on November 23, 2008, 11:17:42 AM
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Except via other contemporary accounts of Socrates -- in which he said things along the lines of "All that's knowable is the extent of one's ignorance."

Such quotes are apocryphal.

Eh, I don't know much about this stuff, as I said.  It's been a long time since I pretended to read the Apology, etc.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Elephant Lee on November 23, 2008, 11:42:43 AM
I got the "govt for the people" and govt spending/taxation parity one wrong. I think that one almost has 2 correct answers.

what, arguing answer not clearly d?

 If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

nothing else even close.
A would be right if it said deficit instead of debt, no?

yes, but it not, no?
It not, but say "nothing else even close" not accurate in my estimation. Debt and deficit related concepts.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Miss P on November 23, 2008, 11:48:33 AM
Debt and deficit related concepts.

I imagine this question was intended primarily to test that people knew the difference.  But if that's the case, they should have actually asked a question about debts and deficits, I think. (In any case, the most annoying thing about it to me is the misleading implication that government can raise money only through taxes and therefore spending must be limited unless you want your taxes to go up  -- Oh noes!)
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 03:39:43 PM
this not julie's strongest area either, but what your criticism of a?

27) Free markets typically secure more economic prosperity than government’s centralized planning because:
A. the price system utilizes more local knowledge of means and ends
B. markets rely upon coercion, whereas government relies upon voluntary compliance with the law
C. more tax revenue can be generated from free enterprise
D. property rights and contracts are best enforced by the market system
E. government planners are too cautious in spending taxpayers’ money

There's no inherent reason that A is true, but neoclassical economics accepts it as axiomatic. Also, as a practical matter, the price system also fails sometimes. I thought E was at least as close to being true (if more ridiculously laden with free market dogma). A huge reason capitalist economies have experienced such tremendous expansion is because the profit motive spurs capital investment beyond what is required to address human need.

in any case, e seem very weak answer indeed.  at least, there no dogma associated with it.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 03:43:56 PM

what your problem with b? what your other neat-choice, e?--as, presumably, socialist critique of government role in capitalism?

25) Free enterprise or capitalism exists insofar as:
A. experts managing the nation’s commerce are appointed by elected officials
B. individual citizens create, exchange, and control goods and resources
C. charity, philanthropy, and volunteering decrease
D. demand and supply are decided through majority vote
E. government implements policies that favor businesses over consumers

I answered B because I knew that it was the credited response. Nonetheless, it's not very accurate in the context of modern capitalism which has very little to do with "individual citizens" creating and controlling goods and resources. Perhaps if it specified "corporate citizens."

I think E is just as valid: modern capitalism exists only to the extent that government policies favor businesses. If they favored consumers, we would have a much more tightly regulated economy.


asto e, not government intrerference of any kind essentially disruption of market?  (julie not say intervention necessarily bad, just disruption of "free market forces"--assuming, julie guess, there such thing in practice.)
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 03:46:40 PM
The philosopher question was kind of redundant.

Pretty much all we know about the philosophy of Socrates is through the writings of Plato. They really can't be distinguished ideologically.

Except via other contemporary accounts of Socrates -- in which he said things along the lines of "All that's knowable is the extent of one's ignorance."

but he wrote fine syllogism.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 03:48:14 PM
What's funny to me about this whole quiz is that high school students might know more of the answers if it wasn't for "reforms" like No Child Left Behind, which stresses test scores (not content knowledge) and only in English and Math. Also, state standards don't really allow for too much teaching of pre-Civil War history -- they figure kids should have learned this in the 8th grade (at least in my state).


I'm glad this quiz points out what many educators already know.

well now, that depend:  union or confederacy?
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Julie Fern on November 23, 2008, 03:49:54 PM
I got the "govt for the people" and govt spending/taxation parity one wrong. I think that one almost has 2 correct answers.

what, arguing answer not clearly d?

 If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

nothing else even close.
A would be right if it said deficit instead of debt, no?

yes, but it not, no?
It not, but say "nothing else even close" not accurate in my estimation. Debt and deficit related concepts.

as are electricity and lightning, but julie still know which one she get out her outlets.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Miss P on November 23, 2008, 04:49:10 PM

what your problem with b? what your other neat-choice, e?--as, presumably, socialist critique of government role in capitalism?

25) Free enterprise or capitalism exists insofar as:
A. experts managing the nation’s commerce are appointed by elected officials
B. individual citizens create, exchange, and control goods and resources
C. charity, philanthropy, and volunteering decrease
D. demand and supply are decided through majority vote
E. government implements policies that favor businesses over consumers

I answered B because I knew that it was the credited response. Nonetheless, it's not very accurate in the context of modern capitalism which has very little to do with "individual citizens" creating and controlling goods and resources. Perhaps if it specified "corporate citizens."

I think E is just as valid: modern capitalism exists only to the extent that government policies favor businesses. If they favored consumers, we would have a much more tightly regulated economy.


asto e, not government intrerference of any kind essentially disruption of market?  (julie not say intervention necessarily bad, just disruption of "free market forces"--assuming, julie guess, there such thing in practice.)

Government policies are more than market interference.  They also may be protection of negative liberties.  I tend to view capitalism as by permission of the government.  YMMV.

this not julie's strongest area either, but what your criticism of a?

27) Free markets typically secure more economic prosperity than government’s centralized planning because:
A. the price system utilizes more local knowledge of means and ends
B. markets rely upon coercion, whereas government relies upon voluntary compliance with the law
C. more tax revenue can be generated from free enterprise
D. property rights and contracts are best enforced by the market system
E. government planners are too cautious in spending taxpayers’ money

There's no inherent reason that A is true, but neoclassical economics accepts it as axiomatic. Also, as a practical matter, the price system also fails sometimes. I thought E was at least as close to being true (if more ridiculously laden with free market dogma). A huge reason capitalist economies have experienced such tremendous expansion is because the profit motive spurs capital investment beyond what is required to address human need.

in any case, e seem very weak answer indeed.  at least, there no dogma associated with it.

I agree; I knew it wasn't the credited response even though it's the one I chose.  But I don't see how it follows that it's actually a weak answer, or any weaker than A.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Private David Lewis on November 23, 2008, 05:23:57 PM
Although I answered a), I could also see c) or d) being correct for #27.  I see no reason why government planners would be too cautious instead of too risky.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Miss P on November 23, 2008, 07:57:37 PM
Although I answered a), I could also see c) or d) being correct for #27.  I see no reason why government planners would be too cautious instead of too risky.

(1) It's a free market canard, and I'm surprised you don't hold it true.  (2) I thought my explanation about the profit motive made sense.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: CTL on June 15, 2009, 05:05:22 AM
87.88%

I was actually surprised. 
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Elephant Lee on June 15, 2009, 09:48:04 AM
Blaven, it doesn't shock me.
keep in mind how many voted for Palin.
and would again.

in addition, when you watch some of the house hearings, it makes you want to cry.
or get sick.
i can't imagine what state legislatures must be like.

7 months ago
Blaven, you were first.resume writing help (http://www.resumein1hour.com/)besides, first grade said to pick you. i've known him for a while.

it is interesting that only 2 people were willing to either try the test, or admit that they did.

80's a good score. considerably better than average.

i only got 1 wrong, but i'm old enough to remember gettysburg (Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas -- that was before my time :-)

as for being disappointed, it would seem that the skills to get elected are not the same as the skills used to read history. (why does used car salesman come to mind?)

on the other hand, it's not likely that anyone in the US congress was a participant. Singlebörsen (http://www.singletreff-singlboerse.de)people "self identified" themselves as government officials. maybe the worked in the DMV.

thanks, all. Oh, Blaven, you should put more about yourself in your profile. see ya next time. ;-)

Elaborate spam
with strange paragraph breaks
Reads like poetry

Blaven sounds like something
Jerry Lewis might say
Followed by
"Nice Lady!"

To be fair
I don't know much about Jerry Lewis
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: This is wrong. on June 15, 2009, 10:40:50 AM
Blaven, it doesn't shock me.
keep in mind how many voted for Palin.
and would again.

in addition, when you watch some of the house hearings, it makes you want to cry.
or get sick.
i can't imagine what state legislatures must be like.

7 months ago
Blaven, you were first.resume writing help (http://www.resumein1hour.com/)besides, first grade said to pick you. i've known him for a while.

it is interesting that only 2 people were willing to either try the test, or admit that they did.

80's a good score. considerably better than average.

i only got 1 wrong, but i'm old enough to remember gettysburg (Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas -- that was before my time :-)

as for being disappointed, it would seem that the skills to get elected are not the same as the skills used to read history. (why does used car salesman come to mind?)

on the other hand, it's not likely that anyone in the US congress was a participant. Singlebörsen (http://www.singletreff-singlboerse.de)people "self identified" themselves as government officials. maybe the worked in the DMV.

thanks, all. Oh, Blaven, you should put more about yourself in your profile. see ya next time. ;-)

Elaborate spam
with strange paragraph breaks
Reads like poetry


Blaven sounds like something
Jerry Lewis might say
Followed by
"Nice Lady!"

To be fair
I don't know much about Jerry Lewis

You came so close to inadvertent haiku on that one.

What's that on your neck?
Ahhh, leeches!  Get them off me!
There's blood on your balls.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: gzl on June 15, 2009, 11:01:45 AM
32 out of 33 correct.  Question 27 is a crap question, and not just because I got it wrong.  Laden with arguable assumptions, etc etc.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: Miss P on June 15, 2009, 04:55:41 PM
32 out of 33 correct.  Question 27 is a crap question, and not just because I got it wrong.  Laden with arguable assumptions, etc etc.

I agree (as you can see above).

::high fives::
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: mugatu on June 15, 2009, 05:33:58 PM
I just took it!

90.91%

Gettysburg, the Socrates one, and i had a brain thing when thinking debt = deficit.
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: TimMitchell on June 26, 2009, 10:59:09 AM
84.85
Title: Re: Civic Literacy Quiz
Post by: valjean on June 27, 2009, 10:08:48 PM
I heard about this when it made news for finding that less than 1/2 of college students could break 50%. My school did particularly poorly.

The ISI has a clear agenda. I'm not sure free market economics deserves quite so much play in a list of the 30 most important civic facts in American life.

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