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Law Students => Job Search => Topic started by: wildcatz on November 18, 2008, 09:15:47 PM

Title: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: wildcatz on November 18, 2008, 09:15:47 PM
I'm top 50% at a T30 school; no luck with OCI. Even during OCI I sent mail and email to mid-sized firms; now I'm sending letters to small firms and looking online for government positions. I don't have a problem doing the work to send the applications; my question is where to find places to apply to. I've found small firms on martindale and in-house departments on lexis, but many of these firms and companies are just not hiring. Have I overlooked anything? Are there any web sites or databases I should be looking through?
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: just Trev on November 18, 2008, 09:19:23 PM
normally i'd say apply to starbucks, but shares are down 95% over the last quarter, and they're pretty much on a hiring freeze...
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: TheDudeMan on November 19, 2008, 09:39:43 AM
normally i'd say apply to starbucks, but shares are down 95% over the last quarter, and they're pretty much on a hiring freeze...

Pretty arrogant post for someone who isn't even in law school yet and judging by their LSN account will be off to some crap school with little job prospects themselves....
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: wildcatz on November 19, 2008, 10:15:38 AM
Pretty arrogant post for someone who isn't even in law school yet and judging by their LSN account will be off to some crap school with little job prospects themselves....

Thanks for lookin out. Anyone?
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: just Trev on November 19, 2008, 10:27:02 AM
normally i'd say apply to starbucks, but shares are down 95% over the last quarter, and they're pretty much on a hiring freeze...

Pretty arrogant post for someone who isn't even in law school yet and judging by their LSN account will be off to some crap school with little job prospects themselves....


sorry if i offended.  i thought it was pretty funny.  i guess when it comes to hiring, these things are too serious to joke about.  my bad.  i'll reconsider before posting something like that again.

also, you're probably right...i'm gonna go to some crap school with little to no job prospects.  it's a shame.  hell, maybe i should just reconsider the whole thing alltogether.  thanks "dude man."
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: TheDudeMan on November 19, 2008, 11:26:58 AM
Hey, I'm just saying if you are going to act like an ass, you get what's coming.  If you were some Harvard prospect, maybe you could say something, but in a year when you find yourself in the OP's position you won't find your comment so funny.
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: botbot on November 19, 2008, 12:24:08 PM
OP:  It sounds like you have most of it covered.  I assume you are trolling your school's job listing site (CRIS or whatnot).  Don't be afraid to use some well worded google searches to find firms that may have slipped through the crack.

It's time to whore up the CDO/Relatives/Friends for specific contacts.
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: just Trev on November 19, 2008, 02:50:16 PM
Hey, I'm just saying if you are going to act like an ass, you get what's coming.  If you were some Harvard prospect, maybe you could say something, but in a year when you find yourself in the OP's position you won't find your comment so funny.

interesting that you should suggest i put myself in someone else's shoes, especially after you said something equally (if not more) damning.  god the hypocrisy of people on the internet is freakin' amazing.  also, it's good to have the balls to apologize when you know you did something wrong (see my last post).  be a man, not a "dude man".
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: TheDudeMan on November 20, 2008, 07:06:58 AM
What do I have to apologize about?  You got what you deserve.  I have a job.

If you wanna be an ass, that is your right, but when you aren't even IN law school yet you just sound like a moron.
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: Katfid54 on November 20, 2008, 07:15:26 AM
What do I have to apologize about?  You got what you deserve.  I have a job.

If you wanna be an ass, that is your right, but when you aren't even IN law school yet you just sound like a moron.

Dude, back off.  Tha Trev was joking.  If you'd ever get your head out of your rear you could tell that he's as self-deprecating as they come and a lot of folks around here enjoy his presence on these boards (myself included).  You, on the other hand, not so much.
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: wildcatz on November 20, 2008, 07:42:46 AM
Trying this again. Anyone?
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: just Trev on November 20, 2008, 03:05:22 PM
What do I have to apologize about?  You got what you deserve.  I have a job.

If you wanna be an ass, that is your right, but when you aren't even IN law school yet you just sound like a moron.



umm...  being the joke police is a job?  in any case, if i were OP, in all seriousness, i would petition matthies for some help.  he's a wonderful resource for these kind of things. 

also, thanks kat for your more than gracious remarks.  i don't deserve all that. 
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: TheDudeMan on November 21, 2008, 07:10:48 AM
What do I have to apologize about?  You got what you deserve.  I have a job.

If you wanna be an ass, that is your right, but when you aren't even IN law school yet you just sound like a moron.

Dude, back off.  Tha Trev was joking.  If you'd ever get your head out of your rear you could tell that he's as self-deprecating as they come and a lot of folks around here enjoy his presence on these boards (myself included).  You, on the other hand, not so much.

I care because?  You folks that just joined this board and already have hundreds of posts crack me up. You talk just to hear yourself talk.  I called him out for making an ignorant comment.  I don't think the OP found his joke so funny. 

Nobody cares what a 0L has to say here.  Go back to the friggin prelaw boards with this garbage.
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: Katfid54 on November 21, 2008, 07:21:53 AM
What do I have to apologize about?  You got what you deserve.  I have a job.

If you wanna be an ass, that is your right, but when you aren't even IN law school yet you just sound like a moron.

Dude, back off.  Tha Trev was joking.  If you'd ever get your head out of your rear you could tell that he's as self-deprecating as they come and a lot of folks around here enjoy his presence on these boards (myself included).  You, on the other hand, not so much.

I care because?  You folks that just joined this board and already have hundreds of posts crack me up. You talk just to hear yourself talk.  I called him out for making an ignorant comment.  I don't think the OP found his joke so funny. 

Nobody cares what a 0L has to say here.  Go back to the friggin prelaw boards with this garbage.

I'd like to respond in kind.
I care because? 

I've heard you respond with the same lame crap to people that have a lot more experience than I do.  I've never gotten onto the 2L boards and claimed to know anything about hiring (neither has Tha Trev, he was making a joke).  The fact that you "don't think OP found his joke funny" is completely meaningless.  Further, Matthies knows a lot more about hiring than most of the rest of LSD combined and you responded to him on a different thread by saying, "My dad's a judge."  Are you kidding me?  You should probably just quit life and go live with your judge dad for the rest of time.  Stop inflating your sense of self-worth.  No one else thinks your important, except maybe Judge Dad.  Lighten up, Francis.
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: TheDudeMan on November 21, 2008, 07:29:44 AM
I know plenty about the legal field and employment in general.  I'm a non-trad like Matthias (I think he is non-trad).  I've been working for 5 years.  Yet when I say anything you traditional law students don't want to hear, I suddenly become an evil jerk.  I tell it like it is and I don't sugar coat, but I also keep my mouth shut about *&^% I know nothing about.  Trev knows nothing about legal hiring, so he should just shut it.

You don't like what I have to say?  Don't read it jackass... Nobody is forcing you. My posts are easily avoided as I don't post a whole lot.  Hell, you have a much higher post count than I do and have been here less than half the time. 

Go outside, get a little air.... Maybe a life.
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: Katfid54 on November 21, 2008, 07:31:55 AM
to be completely fair, tha trev's comment was pretty out of line in my opinion.

and matthies knows plenty about hiring, but only for particular market segments.

Matthies' advice may not translate to every market, but it still is a lot more helpful than, "my dad's a judge, so listen to me."  That's my argument against Dude.  Whether Tha Trev's joke was funny or not is another story, but he was making a joke.  Dude, as always, had to blow his "I'm a really big deal" horn and make a big fuss about Tha Trev's comment.  Dude thinks others should bow down to anything he says, but he never gives good cause for his arguments except for, "listen to me, becaues I know these things."  An argument should be made of sterner stuff.
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: Katfid54 on November 21, 2008, 07:34:49 AM
I know plenty about the legal field and employment in general.  I'm a non-trad like Matthias (I think he is non-trad).  I've been working for 5 years.  Yet when I say anything you traditional law students don't want to hear, I suddenly become an evil jerk.  I tell it like it is and I don't sugar coat, but I also keep my mouth shut about poo I know nothing about.  Trev knows nothing about legal hiring, so he should just shut it.

You don't like what I have to say?  Don't read it jackass... Nobody is forcing you. My posts are easily avoided as I don't post a whole lot.  Hell, you have a much higher post count than I do and have been here less than half the time. 

Go outside, get a little air.... Maybe a life.

Why assume I'm a traditional law student?  I also never assumed you were an evil jerk.  I said you don't substantiate your claims and you have an inflated sense of self-worth.  I also keep my mouth shut about stuff I don't know about.  I've never weighed in on the plight of 2Ls in the current job market.  However, I can tell a joke when I see one.  You, on the other hand, are too busy strutting around on your high horse to notice humor.  That's your bad, not mine.  The fact that my post count is higher than yours doesn't mean I shouldn't refute a piece of crap argument when I see one.
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: Katfid54 on November 21, 2008, 07:47:17 AM
hold on, let's see if we can put together a story about what happened here:

1. OP says, i'm in serious trouble.  can people help me out?  (again, nalpdirectory.com)
2. tha trev says, "hey go apply to starbucks!  or not."  (haha, i'm being funny!)
3. thedudeman says, wtf OP actually has a problem and tha trev is just kicking him while he's down?  that's not funny.  i'm going to kick tha trev in a completely illogical and self-serving way.
4. chaos ensues.

is this pretty accurate?

It is now.
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: Matthies on November 21, 2008, 08:48:56 AM
Trying this again. Anyone?

See generally http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,4013253.0.html
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: TheDudeMan on November 21, 2008, 09:43:29 AM
Trying this again. Anyone?

See generally http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,4013253.0.html

I love signals. You should add in a good explanatory parenthetical, however, for proper form.

See generally http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,4013253.0.html (discussing various job hunting alternatives to OCI).
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: Matthies on November 21, 2008, 09:45:47 AM
Trying this again. Anyone?

See generally http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,4013253.0.html

I love signals. You should add in a good explanatory parenthetical, however, for proper form.

See generally http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,4013253.0.html (discussing where to job search following a failed OCI).

well that techniclly not true this can be done inconjuction with OCI, or instead of OCI alltogether
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: TheDudeMan on November 21, 2008, 09:57:18 AM
Corrected.....
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: just Trev on November 21, 2008, 11:14:42 AM
let me give a recap:

1. OP posts with serious problem.
2. Trev responds with stupid (probably out-of-line) joke.
3. Dude says something equally dickish.
4. Trev apologizes to OP, and recognizes the error of his ways, points out Dude is a FHP.
5. Dude substantiates Trev's claim by not apologizing for his FHPness, and continuing to defend himself.
6. Kat graciously pulls an anti-Dude and comes to Trev's defense.
7. Trev tries to redeem self by recommending OP to seek help from matthies.
8. Dude continues d o u c h e baggery. 
9. matthies eventually offers significant help for OP.
10. while too little a man to apologize for his earlier comments, dude has no problem standing corrected for something stupid, like a misrepresentation of matthies' help, thereby proving his behavior is very pride driven, and in desperate need of a dose of humility.
11. trev tries to close out argument (see below).

look, OP, i'm truly sorry for my joke and any harm i may have caused you.  i really am.  i need to learn to be more sensitive to the plight of others, and i should not have said what i did.  given another chance, i would take it back.  Kat, thank you for trying to defend me.  dude, i'm sorry if i somehow offended you by making my joke to the OP.  i hope you can see from my words that i am sorry.  if i thought you would receive it, i would offer you some words of constructive criticism, but i don't think you are ready for them.  i really feel like we've been dealing with a big child this whole time with you.  matthies, thank you much for your help.  gentlemen, let's please move on with our lives, this is wasting what precious little we have. 
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: TheDudeMan on November 21, 2008, 11:47:04 AM
12. Trev spends 20 minutes writing a feminine hygiene product bag like post trying talking jabbing at dude.  Hilarious.  Have a good day of posting Trev.
Title: Re: Where can I find places to apply
Post by: Matthies on November 21, 2008, 11:49:49 AM
you two should fight at recess

::instigates::