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Title: ...WAZIRISTAN...get ready...more to come....
Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on August 14, 2008, 11:46:40 PM
...usa is working the wazir region...putting the screws to "the organization" and the taliban...

...shock and awe...






 

 

 


 

 

 



       




 
July 29, 2008  Tuesday  Rajab 25, 1429 





Missile raid on S. Waziristan; six killed




Bureau Report

PESHAWAR, July 28: A missile apparently fired from a Predator drone killed at least six people on Monday in a compound in South Waziristan, near the Afghan border.

A security official said the strike might have killed a senior Al Qaeda trainer known for his expertise in chemicals. The official put the death toll at 12.

“Our report suggests that the missile strike might have killed Abu Khabab Al Misri. But it remains unconfirmed,” the official cautioned.

The 55-year-old Midhat Mursi As-Sayid Umar alias Abu Khabab was earlier reported to have been killed in a US missile strike in Bajaur’s Damadola area in Jan 2006. However, later reports showed that he was not among those killed.

He was a trainer at an Al Qaeda facility in Darunta, near Jalalabad, in the late 1990s.

A graduate in science from an Egyptian university, Abu Khabab was considered to be an expert in conventional explosives and some western media reports said he headed a project named Al Zabadi, or ‘curdled milk’, for making chemical and biological weapons.

The US had offered a $5 million reward on information leading to his capture.

A military spokesman declined to comment. “There is a problem at the local level. We have not received a detailed report. No one has been able to reach there and get details of the information. Therefore, I cannot really make a comment,” Maj-Gen Athar Abbas told Dawn.

A resident of Wana said two missiles struck a seminary and an adjoining compound in the Zyara Leetha area of Azam Warsak early in the morning, killing six people and wounding a woman and her two children.

He said tribal militants immediately encircled the scene of the attack and kept locals at bay. “We are not being allowed to go near the site.”

A local militant commander, Maulvi Nazir, said the strike had left seven people dead. Among them were the head of a seminary and students, he said.

Sources said the woman and two children wounded in the missile strike were the wife and children of Abu Khabab. They said others killed in the strike included Mohammad Hudaifa, Khalid Al Misri and two Saudi citizens. The information could not be verified by independent sources.

 
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Post by: Julie Fern on August 15, 2008, 05:22:17 AM
sure.  gump really gonnna do something now, right?

he had his chance.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on August 15, 2008, 07:01:08 AM
9 Suspected Insurgents Killed in Missile Strike, Pakistanis Say
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By ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: August 13, 2008
DERA ISMAIL KHAN, Pakistan (AP) — A missile strike in a Pakistani tribal region killed at least nine suspected insurgents, including foreigners, Pakistani officials said Wednesday, raising suspicions that the United States was again seeking out militants in Pakistan.

A spokesman for the American military denied that it was behind the four missiles, which reportedly struck late Tuesday, destroying a compound in a mountainous area near Angore Adda in South Waziristan. However, past strikes are believed to have been conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency using Predator drones.

The tribal regions are considered havens for militants linked to Al Qaeda and the Taliban who plot and stage attacks on United States and NATO forces in Afghanistan, and the United States has repeatedly urged Pakistan to bring those areas under control. The missile strikes, however, have strained ties between the United States and Pakistan.

A Pakistani military official said at least nine people died in the latest strike. Two Pakistan intelligence service officials said 22 to 25 people — including Arabs, Turkmens and Pakistani militants — died in the strike, which was apparently launched from Afghanistan.

They said the camp was linked to the group of the Afghan warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, whose followers are fighting in Afghanistan. They said it was not clear if the camp leader, an Afghan identified as Cmdr. Zangeer, or other senior militants had been killed.

A Foreign Ministry spokesman, Mohammed Sadiq, said he had no official information on the strike. In the past, Pakistan has decried the missile strikes as violations of its sovereignty.

An American military spokesman in Afghanistan, First Lt. Nathan Perry, said, “I’ve got no reports of any border incidents, any cross-border incidents, so it wasn’t us.”

Pakistan’s army spokesman was not available for comment. The other Pakistani officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the news media.

Suspected American missile strikes have killed at least two senior Qaeda militants inside Pakistan this year, including an Egyptian explosives and poison expert, Abu Khabab al-Masri, who died in a strike in South Waziristan in July.

Separately on Wednesday, Pakistani forces backed by helicopter gunships pounded militant positions in the Bajur tribal region in an operation that has displaced thousands of people.

At least 25 suspected militants were killed on Wednesday and another 30 were wounded in airstrikes in several villages in the region, military officials said.

There has been no way to independently confirm the death toll.

Early Wednesday, gunmen attacked the headquarters of a banned militant group in the Khyber tribal region and shot its leader dead, his spokesman said.

The leader, Hajji Namdar, died of his wounds after he was taken to a hospital from the shooting in Barqambarkhel, about seven miles from the region’s main town of Bara, said the spokesman, Munsaf Khan.

His Vice and Virtue Movement was among three groups banned in June when security forces started an operation to curb militancy and lawlessness in Khyber, amid concern that the main northwestern city of Peshawar could be under threat.

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Post by: Julie Fern on August 15, 2008, 01:28:36 PM
it funny howe, for all his belligerence, gump not very good at fighting terrorists.

apparently gump figfure his boy musharraf going down anyway and so he better pretend do something before big switch occur.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on August 16, 2008, 09:24:14 AM
Hundreds dead in fighting along Afghanistan-Pakistan border
By James Cogan
16 August 2008
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Pakistan’s Federally Administered Tribal Agencies (FATA) and North West Frontier Province (NWFP) have been plunged into the heaviest fighting between government troops and Islamist and Pashtun tribal militants in more than two years. Fierce battles have taken place this week in Bajaur, the northern-most tribal agency, which borders Afghanistan’s Konar province. Dozens of fighters on both sides have been killed and tens of thousands of civilians have been forced to flee their homes.

The chief secretary of the FATA, Habibullah Khan, told Agence France-Presse: “We have around 135,000 people who have left their homes there [Bajaur]. We have directed officials in adjoining districts to provide shelter, food and health care to the migrating families. We are setting up more camps to help these people, just like refugees.”

The Pakistani military offensive in Bajaur and the tremendous human suffering it is causing are the direct outcome of US pressure on the new civilian government of Prime Minister Yousuf Rusa Gilani, which took power after elections in February. With increasing heat, the Bush administration and US military commanders have demanded that Gilani order a full-scale crackdown to prevent Afghan guerilla fighters using the FATA as a base for their war against the US and NATO forces occupying Afghanistan.

The Bajaur agency is under the effective control of militants loyal to Maulvi Omar and Faqir Mohammad, the local representatives of the Pakistani Tehrik-e-Taliban movement. It is believed to be one of the main bases for Afghan warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar’s Hezb-e Islami movement, which is fighting the US-led occupation in an alliance with supporters of the former Taliban regime. It is alleged that Al Qaeda members are also hiding out in its rugged terrain.

Several hundred militants from Bajaur are believed to have crossed into Afghanistan on July 13 to attack a newly established American post in the Wanat district of Konar. Nine US soldiers were killed and 15 wounded in one of the costliest days for American forces since the October 2001 invasion.

On August 6, some 200 to 300 troops of the Pakistani paramilitary Frontier Corps made what appears to have been a poorly planned attempt to reoccupy abandoned posts near the town of Loyesam and cut off insurgent routes over the border. They came under almost immediate attack by heavily armed tribal fighters.

After three days of fighting, the government troops pulled back, leaving behind over 70 dead or captured and several tanks and armoured vehicles. Since last weekend, Taliban fighters have established defensive positions in the villages surrounding the agency capital, Khar. They have reportedly blocked the main highway line linking Bajaur with the adjoining agency of Mohmand and seized the rail line to the capital of NWFP, Peshawar.

Reports indicate that the Pakistani military has been pounding the Taliban positions with jet fighters and helicopter gunships throughout the week. Dozens of houses, several mosques and at least one school have been reduced to rubble. On Tuesday, Pakistani officials claimed they had killed a senior Al Qaeda leader, Abu Saeed al-Masri, also known as Mustafa Abu al-Yazid. Yazid was alleged to have played a major role in plotting the September 11 attacks and terrorist operations since.

The claim has not been confirmed and may be an attempt to refute recent US accusations that sections of the Pakistani intelligence services are still assisting Islamic extremists, as they officially did until 2001. Government spokesmen have also downplayed their own losses while claiming that “hundreds” of Taliban militants have been killed. The exact number of casualties from the week’s fighting is shrouded by the contradictory reports.

Bajaur is now the third battleground in the Pashtun regions of Pakistan. Fighting was already taking place in the Swat Valley district of NWFP and in areas of the Khyber tribal agency, to the west of Peshawar. The next areas that are likely to be targeted are the agencies of South and North Waziristan—the strongholds of the overall leader of the Pakistani Taliban, Baitullah Mehsud. The area is also the base for the Afghan Taliban warlord Jalaluddin Haqqani. Numerous passes exist in the mountainous region through which his fighters can move into southern Afghanistan.

On Tuesday, Taliban spokesman Maulvi Omar told the Associated Press that the government operations in the Swat Valley and the tribal agencies meant “it is an open war between us and them.” The same day, a Taliban bomb destroyed a military van as it left Peshawar. The massive blast hit other vehicles in the vicinity, killing a five-year-old girl. Nine Pakistani Air Force personnel and civilian employees in the van were killed.

On Thursday, a suicide bomber detonated an explosion outside a police station in the city of Lahore, the capital of Punjab province and far from the front line of the conflict. Seven people were killed. The attack may signal the beginning of a concerted campaign of Islamist bombings targeting Pakistan’s major population centres. Last week, nine prospective suicide bombers from South Waziristan were arrested in Lahore in possession of explosive-laden vests and small arms.


An extension of the Afghan war

The growing violence in Pakistan is an extension of the US military attempt to turn Afghanistan into an American client state in Central Asia. If the insurgent safe havens in Pakistan cannot be closed down, the US and NATO forces occupying Afghanistan face what a British commander referred to as a “generational war”—a conflict lasting for another 20 years and consuming vast resources.

Occupation troops and the Afghan government army and police control the main cities and towns and can secure strategic roads, bridges and landing strips. Insurgents, however, move with relative impunity in the countryside. Large sections of the Pashtun population in southern and eastern Afghanistan openly support the resistance to the US and NATO invaders and provide assistance and information. When necessary, the insurgents can retreat over the border to bases in Pakistan to re-supply, treat their wounded and train new forces.

A classic guerilla war is taking place. Insurgent operations along the major highways linking Kabul with cities in the south and east are creating havoc for the occupation forces. Over recent months, bridges have been destroyed and dozens of supply convoys ambushed. An anonymous manager of a western company contracted to truck supplies to NATO forces told the British Financial Times this week: “In the summer months, I would expect to be attacked once or twice a week.”

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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on August 16, 2008, 09:30:52 AM
A Kabul-based fuel trader, Matthew Leeming, reported: “The Taliban’s new tactics of blowing up bridges between Kabul and Kandahar, forcing convoys to slow down and become softer targets, is causing severe problems to companies trying to supply Kandahar from Kabul.” In a major attack in June, a convoy of 50 trucks was virtually destroyed.

Over the past week, at least 20 US and NATO troops have been killed or wounded by roadside bombings, ambushes or suicide bombings in various parts of Afghanistan, though mainly in the provinces that border Pakistan. Three American soldiers were killed on Thursday by an explosion and two more on Friday in a Taliban ambush. For the third month in a row, more US troops have been killed in Afghanistan than in Iraq.

Overall, 573 American soldiers have died in the Afghan theatre since October 2001, with close to 2,500 wounded. Britain has lost 115 dead and Canada 90. In a rare attack in the northern areas of the country, where other NATO countries provide most of the occupation troops, the first Latvian soldier to die in the war was killed by a roadside bomb on Monday in the province of Faryab.

The desperation of the occupation forces is reflected in the virtually daily killing of Afghan civilians by indiscriminate air strikes or trigger-happy troops at checkpoints. On Tuesday, British soldiers in Helmand province shot dead a man who did not slow down as he approached a road block. The following day, British forces severely wounded three people in a car that tried to overtake a line of traffic.

The occupation forces are now carrying out more than 20 air strikes on alleged but unconfirmed Taliban targets every day in Afghanistan. Afghan officials reported that an attack last Saturday in the province of Kapisa killed 12 civilians and wounded 18 others.

The NATO-commanded International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) admitted in a press release that at least eight Afghan civilians were killed by helicopter gunships that were called in after an ambush on Australian troops on Monday. ISAF claimed that 25 other people killed by the gunships were all Taliban fighters.

More than 1,000 Afghan civilians have been killed this year as a result of insurgent attacks or by the occupation forces, as well as 1,500 to 2,000 alleged guerillas. As the carnage escalates and the hatred of the Afghan people toward the US-led occupation mounts, so do the calls in the United States for more troops to be sent and for the US military to conduct its own hot pursuits and air strikes over the border into Pakistan. The campaign is being spearheaded by Democratic Party presidential candidate Barack Obama, who has made the escalation of the Afghan war the centre-piece of his foreign policy.

The Pakistani government, fearful of popular opposition to any such incursions, formally denies the US permission to carry out attacks on its territory. The ongoing air strikes on militant camps, however, make clear that covert operations are taking place. On Tuesday evening, an unmanned American Predator surveillance aircraft fired missiles into an alleged Taliban safe-house in South Waziristan, killing at least nine people.

If the Pakistani military proves incapable or unwilling to subjugate the tribal agencies, the next stage of a war that has already dragged on for close to seven years may well be American ground troops crossing the border to attack guerilla safe havens.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on August 18, 2008, 10:38:24 PM
Taliban kill tribesman 'spy' in Pakistani tribal area
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Taliban militants have shot dead a tribesman in a Pakistani tribal area, accusing him of spying for the US-led military in Afghanistan.

Officials say the body of the man, identified as Said Munir, was found about 60 kilometres west of Miranshah, the main town of volatile North Waziristan tribal district.

The militants left a note on the body saying "he was spying for American forces and anyone spying on the Taliban will be killed like him,".

Militants have killed several tribesmen, accusing them of spying on their activities on behalf of US forces operating across the border in Afghanistan.

Pakistan's newly elected government has drawn criticism from Western allies for earlier negotiations with Taliban militants based near the rugged Afghan frontier.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on August 21, 2008, 10:11:55 PM


Al Qaeda safe house targeted in South Waziristan strike
By Bill RoggioAugust 20, 2008 10:16 PM
 
Pakistan, Afghanistan, and the tribal areas. Map from PBS' Frontline. Click to view.
 
An attack on an al Qaeda safe house in Pakistan's lawless tribal agency of South Waziristan killed at least eight, including foreign terrorists, security officials in Pakistan told AFP.

Reports indicate two missiles struck home that served as "a known hideout for militants" in the town of Wana. The home was owned by a tribesman named Haji Yaqub. "Arabs often stayed with him," a resident in Wana told AFP. Yaqub was reported wounded in the strike. There have been no reports of senior al Qaeda leaders killed in the attack.

The Pakistani military was unable to confirm the details of the attack. "What report we have received is that there is an explosion in a house in Wana," Military spokesman Major General Athar Abbas said. "There are also casualties, but we do not have any confirmation. It is also not confirmed whether it was a missile."

The Pakistani military has a presence on the outskirts of South Waziristan. The military withdrew from bases in South Waziristan after taking heavy casualties and having forts overrun in late 2007 and early 2008.

South Waziristan is a known safe haven for al Qaeda, the Taliban, and allied terrorist movements. Baitullah Mehsud, the leader of the Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan, is based in South Waziristan. Baitullah has conducted a vicious suicide campaign throughout Pakistan and an effective military campaign in the tribal areas.

The Taliban, al Qaeda, and allied terrorist groups have established 157 training camps and more than 400 support locations in the tribal areas and the Northwest Frontier Province, US intelligence officials have told The Long War Journal. Last year, 29 camps were reported to be in operation in North and South Waziristan.

Targeting al Qaeda's safe havens

This year's attack tempo on Taliban and al Qaeda havens in Pakistan is higher than previous years. Ten camps and safe houses were confirmed to have been targeted by the US military in 2006 and 2007. The Wana attack is the seventh confirmed US strike on al Qaeda and Taliban safe houses and camps in Pakistan this year.

Three senior al Qaeda commanders have been killed in this year's strikes.

The US military killed Abu Khabab al Masri during a targeted strike on an al Qaeda safe house in the village of Zeralita in the Azam Warsak region of South Waziristan on July 28. Khabab was al Qaeda's chief bomb maker and headed its chemical and biological weapons programs.

On May 14, a US strike killed Abu Sulayman Jazairi, in an airstrike against a Taliban and al Qaeda safe house in the town of Damadola in Pakistan’s Bajaur tribal agency along with 13 associates. Jazairi was a senior Algerian operative for al Qaeda’s central organization who directed the group’s external operations. He is described as a senior trainer, an explosives expert, and an operational commander tasked with planning attacks on the West.

Abu Laith al Libi was killed in a US strike inside the North Waziristan tribal agency in Pakistan in late January. Al Libi was the leader of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group and served as a chief spokesman for al Qaeda. Laith also commanded al Qaeda forces in Afghanistan.

Pakistani sources have put out false reports of the death of three senior al Qaeda and Taliban leaders this summer. Ayman al Zawahiri, al Qaeda's second in command, was rumored to have been killed in the South Waziristan strike that killed Khabab. Zawahiri appeared on a videotape a week later, urging Pakistanis to fight the government.

The Pakistani military speculated that Faqir Mohammed, the Taliban emir, or leader in Bajaur and the deputy leader of the Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan, was killed during fighting against Pakistani forces in the tribal agency on August 15. Faqir later spoke to a Pakistani television station.

Mustafa Abu Yazid, al Qaeda's commander in Afghanistan, was also reported killed during the heavy fighting in Bajaur last week. Al Qaeda never confirmed Yazid's death, and the Pakistani military and intelligence agencies never presented evidence he was killed.

While the strikes have disrupted al Qaeda's senior leadership, they have done little to disrupt the growth of al Qaeda and the Taliban in northwestern Pakistan.


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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on August 26, 2008, 10:06:14 PM
After Bajaur, Pak Taliban declare truce in South Waziristan Agency too
Karachi News.Net
Tuesday 26th August, 2008 (ANI)

Wana (Pakistan), Aug 26 : Exactly a day after the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) had called for a ceasefire in the Bajaur Agency, the extremist group led by pro-government militant commander Maulvi Nazir last evening announced a unilateral ceasefire in the South Waziristan Agency (SWA) following fierce clashes with security forces.

A Jirga of local tribal elders held an emergency meeting with political agent Syed Shahab Ali Shah and informed him of the frequent violation of Pakistan's airspace by the US spy planes and carrying out air strikes in the Agency, killing innocent tribesmen in the name of al-Qaeda, The News quoted TTP sources as saying.

The 40-member Jirga comprising tribal elders of the area including Malik Baa Khan Wazir, Malik Sarwar Khan, Malik Ajmal Wazir, Malik Sharif and Malik Rasul Khan represented the Ahmadzai Wazirs tribal elders in the Jirga.

The Jirga assured the political agent of their cooperation in maintaining law and order in the area and convinced the official that in future Ahmadzai Wazir tribesmen would refrain from attacking security forces.

They added that under the collective responsibility section of the Frontier Crimes Regulations (FCR), they would be responsible to the political administration.

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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on September 16, 2008, 09:01:17 PM
US spy planes make flights over Waziristan

Daily Times Monitor

LAHORE: United States spy planes on Sunday once again made flights over areas of North and South Waziristan agencies, creating panic among the locals.

According to Express News, US drones flew over the Ghulam Khan, Saidki, Miranshahand Miral areas of North Waziristan and Angoor Adda area of South Waziristan. The latest flights have added to the panic and fear among the locals who were already worried by US drone attacks into Pakistan, the channel said, adding that a US spy plane fled the airspace of N Waziristan agency airspace after flights by Pakistani fighter jets in the area on Saturday.

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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on September 16, 2008, 09:03:00 PM
let's bring the genocidal murderer dr. ayman al zawahiri to justice or kill him if he refuses to come without a fight...

bin laden is probably already dead.

CIA carried out Waziristan strike’...this was one page header...more like special ops did this...not c.i.a.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on September 30, 2008, 01:47:25 PM
Waziristan link seen in attack on Marriott: Blast caused by RDX and TNT: Malik




By Syed Irfan Raza

 ISLAMABAD, Sept 21: Prime Minister’s Adviser on Interior Affairs Rehman Malik has said that Saturday’s blast in Islamabad that claimed 53 lives had links with Waziristan.

A video tape, recorded by a security TV camera of the Marriott Hotel, which was shown at a press conference on Sunday, raised questions about security arrangements made to avert a terrorist attack in the capital’s high security areas.

“It is premature to blame any particular group or individual for the blast but all roads lead to Waziristan,” the adviser said.

The video clip showed a six-wheeler dumper truck hitting a steel barrier at the hotel’s main entrance. The attacker, who could not be seen in the film, opened fire on security guards, forcing them to retreat, and then blew himself up causing a small blast which set the truck on fire.

A number of courageous security guards reappear, one of them with a fire extinguisher who tries to extinguish the blaze but fails. He tries repeatedly to douse flames as traffic is seen on the road. There is no sign of movement in the truck and the footage does not show the massive blast which wreaked the havoc.

Questions have been raised as to how such a huge quantity of highly explosive material (RDX and TNT) could be brought into the capital and then taken to the high security area. And there were only five or six private guards at the hotel gate and no arrangement to put out fire.

“It was the first incident in the capital in which terrorists used RDX and TNT explosives. In all previous blasts the terrorists had used potassium. Aluminium powder used in the explosion caused the fire inside the hotel,” Mr Malik said.

Analysts said the attack could have been averted had the fire on the truck been extinguished before it reached the explosives.

The fire in the hotel, a favourite spot for foreigners and the local elite -- and a previous target of militants -- smouldered till about noon on Sunday.

Mr Malik said the local administration allowed trucks carrying construction material to enter the city after sunset.

Rescue teams searched the charred building room by room in high temperature with some parts of the hotel still smouldering. Officials said the main building could collapse.

The adviser said two Americans and one Vietnamese national were among the dead. Officials said at least 21 foreigners, including Britons, Germans, Americans and Arabs, were among the injured.

 Mr Malik said the bomb contained an estimated 600kgs of military-grade explosives as well as artillery and mortar shells. It left a crater 60 feet wide and 24 feet deep.

The adviser called upon the national media not to glorify militants. “They are ferocious people who are killing innocent people, but the anchors, hosts and other media personnel do not condemn them.”

He said a team headed by the director general of the Federal Investigation Agency was carrying out an inquiry.

Replying to a question, Mr Malik vowed that one day the assassin of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto would be presented before the public.

He praised the army and law-enforcement agencies for foiling the designs of over 3,000 militants who had attacked Bajaur. “We launched operations in Hangu and Khyber to restore peace,” he said.

The government announced a reward of Rs10 million for information about Saturday’s suicide bomber. Anyone with information may contact the FIA DG on telephone numbers 111-345-786 or 0302-5115122 or the Islamabad police chief on 051-9261428 or 0300-8507520.

The adviser said the name of the informer would be kept secret and he would be provided full security.

Mr Malik said the government had decided to implement a new security plan in Islamabad to prevent such attacks.

He said closed-circuit cameras would be installed along all main roads and at important points in the capital. They will be linked to a central control room. The task has been given to the National Database and Registration Authority (Nadra).

The adviser said the plan approved by President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani would be implemented in a few days.

“All trucks, buses and taxis coming into the federal capital will be monitored thoroughly and police patrolling will be increased.”

Meanwhile, interior ministry sources said the government had decided to intensify operations against militants in tribal areas.

The joint investigation team submitted a report after bomb disposal squads of army and police had examined the site.

According to sources, officials of the US Federal Bureau of Investigation, Central Intelligence Agency and Marines who were staying in the hotel could have been the target of the attack.

Shortly after the blast, well-equipped personnel of US Marines took positions at the place to remove their colleagues, the sources added.

“It is unfair to target thousands of people in a hotel to kill two Americans,” Mr Malik said.

No group has claimed responsibility for the blast.

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Post by: Julie Fern on October 09, 2008, 05:17:03 AM
reading your stale threads like listening bill o'reilly.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on October 14, 2008, 11:44:59 PM
bigot.
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Post by: Julie Fern on October 16, 2008, 07:37:25 AM
yes, he is.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on November 10, 2008, 11:17:28 PM
the international news

Saturday, November 08, 2008

After a period of relative quiet, the suicide bombers have struck again. This time, the target was another 'jirga' gathering in Bajaur, where tribal elders, after a meeting with the administration, were staging a meeting to discuss forming a 'lashkar' against militants. At least 20 people are reported to have died in an attack that the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) have claimed responsibility for. The tactics, it is clear, are unchanged. The purpose is to dissuade tribesmen from building a front against the militants. We have seen similar, dastardly attacks before – in Bajaur and in other tribal areas.

Against the bloody background of this new attack, the news that a close aide of TTP leader Baitullah Mehsud has been freed in exchange for 10 security personnel is disquieting. It seems that even now, authorities are willing to strike deals with proven killers. Whereas one can understand the desire to rescue trapped military men, the fact is that we are dealing with a ruthless force. To combat them, the methods will need to be just as ruthless and just as unflinching. We have seen over the past years that such attempts at dialogue and deal-making with militants simply do not work. The resolve to go in against them with full force needs to be steadfast and backed by complete commitment at every level.

What is encouraging is the fact that tribal people have, despite the suicide attacks staged to dissuade them, carried on with their determined bid to drive militants out of their areas. In this they are said to be backed almost everywhere by local people. In this context, the efforts of the militants appear increasingly desperate. They have indeed already been forced out of some areas of Dir and of the tribal agencies. What also seems evident is that the formation of such anti-militant 'lashkars' will continue. Each new attack on tribesmen, rather than dissuading them, acts to fuel new anger against the elements behind the bombings and a new determination to crush them. In recent days, several edicts against suicide attacks by clerical leaders help to strengthen the resolve. What authorities must do is ensure that tribesmen have full support in their effort to eradicate militants. At the same time, there must also now be an attempt to strike at the core of organizations such as the TTP. The operation staged in Bajaur and elsewhere has already weakened them, paving the way for such a new offensive. It is hard to believe men like Baitullah Mehsud or his closest aides still cannot be tracked down. This is all the more true given that our agencies have been provided state-of-the-art equipment by the US and other allies. The effort to hunt down top militants needs to be stepped up as a move towards disbanding them and hampering their ability to kill innocent people, as they did most recently at the tribal meeting in Bajaur.
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Post by: Julie Fern on November 11, 2008, 06:30:54 AM
putz.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on November 18, 2008, 11:28:02 PM
'US raid' kills five in Pakistan 
 
Damage to civilian life and property has generated anti-American feelings in Pakistan
A missile fired by a suspected US drone has killed at least five people in north-western Pakistan, security officials say.

The missile destroyed a house in the Bannu district, they said.

The dead include two foreigners - a term Pakistani officials use to describe al-Qaeda militants.

In recent weeks, more than 100 people - among them suspected militants and many civilians - have been killed in the tribal areas in attacks by US missiles.

The issue has become extremely sensitive in Pakistan where anti-American sentiment is rising.

Pakistan's government says unilateral American operations undermine its own counter-insurgency strategy.

A local security official told the AFP news agency that Wednesday morning's attack "destroyed the house of a tribesman".

Bannu is near the Afghan border on the edge of the North Waziristan tribal region, a centre of support for pro-Taleban militants.

Correspondents say Pakistan's tribal regions on the Afghan border have usually borne the brunt of suspected US missile attacks, so the strike in Bannu was unusual.

Last Friday, missiles fired by a suspected US drone killed at least eight militants in North Waziristan which is known to be a hub of al-Qaeda and Taleban militants.

The latest attacks have come days after Pakistan's President Asif Zardari's appeal to US President-elect Barack Obama to review the strategy of attacking targets in Pakistan's tribal areas.

"It's undermining my sovereignty and it's not helping win the... hearts and minds of people," Mr Zardari told CBS News.

The US has stepped up missile attacks from drones in the region in recent weeks.

There have been nearly 20 strikes in the past three months and, while US officials say al-Qaeda leaders are being successfully targeted, local tribesmen say scores of civilians have been killed.

Most of the missile strikes have taken place in the Waziristan region, where no Pakistani military operation is in progress.
 
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Post by: Julie Fern on November 19, 2008, 07:58:13 AM
idiot.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on November 19, 2008, 10:29:50 PM
Is ruthless tribal warlord in Pakistan intervening to save a Canadian hostage?
   SAEED SHAH

From Thursday's Globe 

November 19, 2008 at 9:02 PM EST

ISLAMABAD — In the murky world of justice in remote Pakistan, one thing is clear: The fate of a Canadian held captive there rests in the hands of warlord Gul Bahadur.

A leader of Pakistan's Taliban, he runs much of North Waziristan, the area where Beverly Giesbrecht, 55, disappeared last week and where she is thought to still be held captive.

Early reports in the Pakistani media said Mr. Bahadur's fighters were holding Ms. Giesbrecht, who took the name Khadija Abdul Qahaar upon converting to Islam after Sept. 11, 2001. More recent information suggests Mr. Bahadur has intervened on her behalf, putting pressure on the group that holds Ms. Giesbrecht, according to a local security official and tribesmen from the area.

According to their accounts, Mr. Bahadur has told her kidnappers that, as a Muslim and a woman, she should be let go. Kidnapping is common in that area but abducting women is frowned upon.

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 North Waziristan is part of Pakistan's wild tribal region, which is a hotbed of Taliban and al-Qaeda militants. Mr. Bahadur is a committed insurgent who sends his fighters across the border to battle with U.S., Canadian and other coalition troops in Afghanistan. He is nonetheless considered a moderate among Pakistan's Taliban as he has not turned his fighters against the Pakistani state.

According to officials and locals, Ms. Giesbrecht is being held by the Amin Shah group, which identities itself as a Taliban group in North Waziristan but is widely considered to be a criminal gang that has undertaken acts in the name of religion to garner support, a practice now common.

“Amin Shah group say they are now checking whether she really is a Muslim,” a local security official said. “They are asking her questions about Islam. If they are satisfied that she is a Muslim, and that she is not a spy, I think they will set her free soon. Gul Bahadur is pressing to free her.”

There are now secret negotiations under way for her release between Pakistani authorities and the Amin Shah group, who come from the Maalikhel clan, a sub-tribe of the Wazirs, according to Zakir Khan, a local in Mir Ali, a town in North Waziristan. The talks are being brokered by a well-known tribal leader known as Malik Khalid.

The Amin Shah group is said to be after a ransom as high as 10 million rupees, or $160,0000, so there is some doubt they will let her go even if she convinces them she is a Muslim. There's speculation the gang is using this issue to buy time with Mr. Bahadur and the real Taliban.

Ms. Giesbrecht, who lived in West Vancouver, is a former magazine publisher and past owner of the monthly Vancouver Business Report.

She now runs a website called Jihad Unspun, which reports on global anti-terrorism efforts from a Muslim perspective. She is thought to have been investigating U.S. missile attacks in the tribal area, an emotive issue for Pakistanis, possibly for a documentary. Locals contend that many innocent civilians have died as a result of the U.S. missiles, which are often fired from unmanned “drone” aircraft.

She was carrying a still camera and a video camera, according to people with whom she met before being abducted. She made two trips to Bannu, a town on the edge of North Waziristan that is considered a highly risky place for Westerners and even Pakistanis not from that area. Kidnapping, robbery and carjackings in northwestern Pakistan are reaching endemic proportions, as law and order has broken down as a result of an Islamist insurgency that has made the police and paramilitary fearful to patrol in many places.

Criminal gangs, under the guise of Taliban, are thriving, lurking on the outskirts of cities in the northwest, including the provincial capital, Peshawar. The Taliban movement, which first rose in Afghanistan and has now taken over much of Pakistan's tribal area, is supposed to be based on a promise of strict law and order and a crackdown on criminality.

“A large number of the supporters of the Taliban are criminal elements,” said Mehmood Shah, a former top security official for the tribal area, now an analyst based in Peshawar. “Very few people are pious and what you could call ‘principled.'”

On her first visit to Bannu, which lies around 200 kilometres south of Peshawar, Ms. Giesbrecht made a trip to Lakki Marwat, an area farther south, to talk to people who had apparently fled Waziristan to escape U.S. missile attacks, after which she returned to Peshawar, according to security officials.

She returned to Bannu on Nov. 9 and stayed the night at the city's down-market Bagh Sakoon hotel. Leaving the next day, she travelled by taxi eastward into North Waziristan, along with a translator and a local community figure. It is thought that she was trying to go to the spot of a recent U.S. missile strike, at a village called Kam Sam near the Afghan border, close to the town of Razmak, in which 12 people reportedly died.

It was on the way back to Bannu from Kam Sam, on the afternoon of Nov. 10, that she was snatched. Her taxi was pursued by a pick-up truck carrying masked men, which forced the car to stop. The taxi driver was let go but Ms. Giesbrecht and the other two men were taken into custody, according to accounts given by locals, who believe that she is now being held near Razmak.

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Post by: Julie Fern on November 20, 2008, 04:16:51 AM
dipshit.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on November 26, 2008, 12:00:06 AM
...getting closer...we hope...


Rashid Rauf was linked to al-Qaeda's number two Ayman al-Zawahiri 


A British al-Qaeda suspect reportedly killed by a US missile strike in a Pakistani tribal area was linked to the group's second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, according to officials.
 
By Isambard Wilkinson in Islamabad

Last Updated: 2:06PM GMT 24 Nov 2008

 Rauf has been on the run since escaping from a Pakistani jail nearly a year ago AP

Rashid Rauf and a Saudi militant called Abu Zubair al-Masri were among five killed in a missile attack in North Waziristan on Saturday.

Rauf, a British national, was alleged to have been the mastermind of an al-Qaeda plot to blow up passenger aircraft in mid-air after they left London bound for the United States.

There was no independent corroboration of his death but local Pakistani intelligence officials and US intelligence officials believed he was dead, according to a senior Pakistani military source.

Kamal Shah, the senior civil servant in the interior ministry, said: "There is no independent confirmation but Rauf is believed to be dead." Hashmat Habib, Rauf's lawyer, said that villagers in Rauf's ancestral village in Mirpur district in Kashmir, had gathered to offer condolences to his client's family.

The military source claimed that the operation had been conducted entirely using US intelligence assets.

He said that Pakistani intelligence had known that Rauf was "moving between North and South Waziristan".

"This has come from their (America's) end. Both of them [Rauf and Misri] were being tracked. We were not involved in this attack," he said.

Pakistan has officially protested to the United States that missile strikes violate its sovereign territory, although some officials say there was a tacit understanding between the two militaries to allow such action.

"In fact, for some time now the US has totally by-passed our [intelligence] agencies," he added.

A Pakistani intelligence official said that the US believed that Rauf was staying with a group connected to Zawahiri. Zawahiri is believed by American officials to operate from Pakistan's lawless, tribal border areas.

A US missile strike was launched against him in the tribal agency of Bajaur in 2006 but he escaped unharmed.

The information minister, Sherry Rehman, confirmed that Rauf and Misri were targeted in the raid. She did not elaborate.

Rehman reiterated her government's complaint that missile attacks, apparently launched from unmanned aircraft, are fanning anti- Americanism and Islamic extremism tearing at both Pakistan and Afghanistan.

"It would have been better if our authorities had been alerted for local action," said Ms Rehman. "Drone incursions create a strong backlash."

Rauf, who is of Pakistani origin, has been on the run since last December, when he escaped from police escorting him back to jail after an extradition hearing in Pakistan's capital, Islamabad.

Britain was seeking his extradition ostensibly as a suspect in the 2002 killing of his uncle there, but Rauf had allegedly been in contact with a group in Britain planning to smuggle liquid explosives onto trans-Atlantic flights and also with a suspected al-Qaeda mastermind of the plot in Afghanistan.
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Post by: Julie Fern on November 26, 2008, 05:14:59 AM
yet another tribute gump's incompetence.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on November 30, 2008, 12:58:55 PM
this region IS now going to remain on the desktop


Israel vows to protect Jewish centres after Mumbai attacks
   
 
AFP JERUSALEM (AFP) – Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert vowed on Sunday to do everything necessary to protect Jewish centres across the world after nine Israelis were killed in assaults by Islamist militants in the Indian city of Mumbai.

"Israel is doing, and will continue to do anywhere, whatever it takes to protect Jewish institutions," Olmert told a weekly cabinet meeting.

Israel's embassies and official representations across the world are always heavily guarded by Israeli and local security forces.

But other than issuing warnings on possible attacks, Israel does not guard Jewish centres such as the Chabad centre that was targeted in Mumbai.

"The pictures of the Jewish victims, especially the scenes of those who ran the Chabad House, wrapped in prayer shawls, even as their blood-covered son was miraculously saved from the inferno, are shocking and take us back to events that we pray never recur," Olmert said.

"The hatred of Jews and the hatred of Israel and the hatred of Jewish symbols still continue to be a source fuelling these acts of murder."

Israeli embassy officials in India have said that they did not believe that Chabad House, a cultural centre run by the ultra-Orthodox Lubavitch movement where eight of the Israelis were killed, could have been targeted by accident.

"We will act, also in cooperation with the Indian government, to protect as much as possible the many Israelis and Jews in these areas who want, and are entitled to, full security," Olmert added.

An Israeli air force plane took off for Mumbai on Sunday evening to repatriate the bodies. On the flight were representatives of the army, the rabbinate and foreign ministry, as well as forensic experts.

Israeli media highlighted the case of Sandra Samuel, an Indian woman who worked as nanny for the toddler son of the slain Chabad House director and his wife, and who rescued him from the cultural centre after hiding from the militants for 12 hours.

News websites reported calls for her to be given leave to come to Israel indefinitely or even be declared a so-called righteous gentile for her role in saving two-year-old Moshe.

"We didn't get any application yet but that doesn't mean we won't approve it," said interior ministry spokeswoman Sabine Hadad.

"If we get the application, I am sure that we will consider all that took place."

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg had praised the nanny's "heroic" rescue of the son and said that "during a time of terrible sadness, her courage reaffirms our faith in the capacity of good to triumph over evil."

Nearly 200 people are now known to have died in the attacks which ravaged the Indian commercial capital, hitting five-star hotels and other targets frequented by Westerners as well as Chabad House.

Israeli newspapers gave blanket coverage to the Mumbai carnage in Sunday's editions, their first since the confirmation of the Israeli dead late on Friday.

The top-selling Yediot Aharonot daily devoted more than a dozen pages to the attacks, while Maariv used its first 17.

Yediot carried extensive criticism of the Indian commando operation and the length of time it took to overcome the militants.

"Ten terrorists, who, according to the findings of the investigation, arrived by rubber raft at the shore of Mumbai carrying machine guns, grenades and dry rations in their luggage, succeeded -- almost inconceivably -- in keeping almost 1,000 commando troops and counter-terrorism combat units occupied for three days, in several battle sites," one article said.

But the Israeli foreign ministry put out a statement to domestic media distancing itself from such criticism.

"We are convinced that the Indian forces did everything they could to prevent harm from coming to the captives and civilians during the storming of the Chabad House," Yediot's website quoted ministry spokesman Yossi Levi as saying.
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Post by: Julie Fern on November 30, 2008, 02:13:07 PM
julie so glad we have you around explain international affairs us.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on December 20, 2008, 12:10:39 AM
...stv...here is the map aye was telling you about...the drones are such a psychological weapon...and no grunts harmed...B.O.A.Z.


US Predator strikes in North Waziristan
By Bill RoggioDecember 15, 2008 1:22 PM
 
Map of the tribal areas and the Northwest Frontier Province. The government signed peace agreements in the red agencies/ districts (the military said Shangla was under Taliban control in October); purple districts are under de facto Taliban control; yellow regions are under Taliban influence.
The US has attacked a Taliban safe house in the lawless tribal agency of North Waziristan, killing two people, according to reports from the region.

An unmanned Predator aircraft fired at least one Hellfire missile at a Taliban safe house in the Tapi Tool region near Miramshah, the main town in the Taliban-controlled tribal agency, Geo News reported.

No senior leaders have been reported killed in the strike.

The al Qaeda-linked Haqqani family and Taliban warlord Hafiz Gul Bahadar operate in North Waziristan. The Haqqani Network has a strong presence in Miramshah region of North Waziristan.

The Haqqanis control large swaths of the tribal area and run a parallel administration with courts, recruiting centers, tax offices, and security forces. They have established multiple training camps and safe houses used by al Qaeda leaders and operatives, as well as by Taliban foot soldiers preparing to fight in Afghanistan.

Nearly 60 percent of US strikes in Pakistan this year have taken place in North Waziristan.

Background on the recent strikes inside Pakistan

The US attacks inside Pakistan have tapered off the past six weeks after a high operational tempo in September and October, when strikes into Pakistan averaged two to three a week. Only eight attacks have been recorded in November and the first two weeks of December. The majority of these attacks have been inside North and South Waziristan.

Attacks in the tribal areas have decreased in frequency over the past six weeks as al Qaeda and the Taliban have taken additional security precautions, a senior US military intelligence official told The Long War Journal. "They have either gone to ground or are limiting their movements and meetings to reduce their visibility," the official said.

There have been 35 recorded cross-border attacks and attempts in Pakistan this year, according to numbers compiled by The Long War Journal. Twenty-eight of these attacks took place since Aug. 31. There were only 10 recorded strikes during 2006 and 2007 combined.

The strikes in Pakistan's tribal areas have disrupted al Qaeda and the Taliban's operations, but will not dislodge the groups from power in the region.

The US campaign in Pakistan is aimed at disrupting al Qaeda's ability to attack the West, US intelligence officials told The Long War Journal on Sept. 19.

US intelligence believes the next attack launched against the West will originate from Pakistan's tribal areas, where al Qaeda operates 157 known training camps, intelligence officials told The Long War Journal in August.

The US strikes inside Pakistan's tribal areas have killed five senior al Qaeda leaders this year. All of the leaders were involved in supporting al Qaeda's external operations directed at the West.

Abu Laith al Libi, a senior military commander in Afghanistan, was killed in a strike in North Waziristan in January. Abu Sulayman Jazairi, al Qaeda’s external operations chief, was killed in a strike in Bajaur in March. Abu Khabab al Masri, al Qaeda's weapons of mass destruction chief, and several senior members of his staff were killed in a strike in South Waziristan in July. Khalid Habib, the leader of al Qaeda's paramilitary forces in the tribal Ares, was killed in North Waziristan in October. Abu Jihad al Masri, the leader of the Egyptian Islamic Group and member of al Qaeda's top council, was also killed in North Waziristan this October.

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Post by: Julie Fern on December 20, 2008, 05:41:11 AM
not you listen your hero gump?  taliban gone.

gop dipshit.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on December 20, 2008, 08:54:24 AM
...stv...colorful map...it has seen rough winter in autonomous zone...and yeah...hostile terrain...

http://www.longwarjournal.org/maps/pakistan-fata-15.php...

n.b. pannu is like venus' atmosphere...aye think why bother with that section.

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Post by: Julie Fern on December 20, 2008, 06:30:12 PM
julie confident you know very little venus.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on December 29, 2008, 10:00:37 PM
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Four months ago, the people of the Pakistani mountain village of Shalbandi gained national repute after a village posse hunted down and killed six Taliban fighters who had tied up and killed eight local policemen. The posse displayed the Taliban corpses like trophies for other residents to see, and the village was celebrated as a courageous sign that the Taliban could be repelled.

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A suicide car bomb exploded at a school in Shalbandi.

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As Taliban Overwhelm Police, Pakistanis Hit Back (November 2, 2008) On Sunday morning, the Taliban struck back.

A suicide car bomber set off an explosion at a school in Shalbandi that was serving as a polling place, as voters lined up to elect a representative to the National Assembly. More than 30 people were killed and more than two dozen wounded, according to local political and security officials. Children and several policemen were among the dead.

The attack was the latest demonstration of the Taliban’s bloody encroachment eastward and deeper into Pakistan from the lawless tribal areas on the western border. Shalbandi is less than 100 miles northwest of Islamabad, the capital, and lies just south of the lush Swat Valley, a onetime ski resort known as the “Switzerland of Pakistan” that has been largely taken over by the Taliban despite large-scale army operations.

In the frenzied aftermath of the car bombing, survivors and witnesses offered conflicting accounts of the attack, said Mian Iftikhar Hussain, information minister for the North-West Frontier Province, where Shalbandi is located.

In one version, he said, the bomber sped his car toward the school but plowed into adjacent shops. The explosion was so large that it destroyed part of the school and killed many people waiting to vote. In the other version, he said, the killer parked near the school and told people he was having car trouble. As people gathered, he detonated the bomb inside.

“He pretended his car was not working, then he asked for help, people came and tried to push it, and then it blew up,” Mr. Hussain said. It was not clear which account was more accurate.

A Taliban spokesman claimed responsibility for the attack as retribution for the deaths of six fighters, according to a Pakistani news channel.

The Pakistani military claimed over the weekend that it had killed 34 militants in Swat, just north of Buner, the district that includes Shalbandi. But the choice of Shalbandi for the attack left little doubt which six deaths the Taliban had sought to avenge.

“They singled out this village because it had clearly resisted and had expelled the Taliban by force,” said Afrasiab Khattak, head of the Awami National Party in the province, which now leads the provincial government after defeating incumbent religious parties with ties to militants in February elections.

Shalbandi had received constant threats after the posse hunted down the Taliban fighters. “Disrupting elections is a general strategy for these elements,” Mr. Khattak said.

The bombing on Sunday was not the first act of retaliation. The son of a village elder who had been a leader of the August posse was recently kidnapped by militants in Swat, Mr. Hussain, the provincial information minister, said. The elder responded by kidnapping the son of a well-known Taliban spokesman in Swat.

“These people cannot frighten us,” said Mr. Hussain, who added that voting for the legislative seat continued Sunday at other polling places. “We are ready for a dialogue, but if they continue with the violence, we will take strong action against them, even at the cost of our lives.”

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Post by: Julie Fern on December 30, 2008, 07:47:56 AM
your ability post articles quite masterful.  apparently this impress your barnyard girlfriends.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on March 02, 2009, 02:42:34 PM
john...here it is and you have to check the fifteenth and sixteenth  paragraph...guess who wrote it?


Obama has destroyed the anti-war Left
March 1st, 2009 11:04 pm  |  by "look it up" |  Published in Activism, Blowback, Commentary, Foreign Policy, Liberty, Politics, War, terrorism  |  (0 Comments)

What decade am I describing: The United State has chosen an impoverished, agrarian region halfway around the world to demonize and to pound into submission with its most advanced weaponry. The central governments of the region have never attacked the U.S., but we are told that militants in the area hate us and will harm us if allowed to. The U.S. strikes kill a certain number of politicized militants, along with hundreds of civilians, including, in large numbers, women and children.

The weak central governments within whose borders we operate have no ability to stay in power on their own, but are dependent on U.S. manipulation to hold up their political “leaders,” who routinely invite the U.S. to continue its assistance against their “insurgent” forces. Our President announces that in addition to the mechanized attacks on civilian areas of the region, he is significantly increasing U.S. ground forces, with a resultant rise in American troop deaths a certainty.

Have I describe the late 60’s and early 70’s, or today? Hard to tell, unless I add one more fact: The American public, including, in its entirety, the left, is entirely silent on the intervention. That makes it easy, doesn’t it? The period of time in question is right now. The target of our intervention is the border area between Pakistan and Afghanistan, and the President is Obama.


The problem with the left is that it has a hard time grasping that the American war movement, which I’ll call the MIC (after Eisenhower’s more descriptive “Military-Industrial Complex”), is managed by very clever people, fully capable of maneuvering and outwitting its opponents. The left is fond of mocking MIC thinkers as imbeciles, playground bullies who can’t think beyond a crude desire to beat someone up. That is far from the reality, as a quick history lesson will show.

The MIC in the 60’s was in a transitional stage, having recently emerged from the spotlight, the last of its kind, wielded by Eisenhower. The transition entailed a U.S. military and citizenry with a certain sense of being in the right, engendered by a morally clear World War, and fading but still present after the relatively clear Korean War. But mistakes were made by the MIC, as can happen in transition periods.

Most importantly, in invading Vietnam the MIC misjudged the American public’s willingness to attack an “enemy” that had not attacked us, that in fact seemed incapable of attacking us. It took a bit of time for the WWII generation to grasp the distinction on a wide scale, but the younger generation, subject to the draft, grasped it right away, and its opposition spread fast and furiously. The MIC was as much caught off-guard by the domestic opposition to the Vietnam War as it was by the Tet Offensive. It lost its balance and was never quite able to regain it. The rest is history.

But it is at this juncture that the left began to lose its advantage. It dismissed the MIC as brutish and un-intellectual, incapable of higher-order thinking on the level of the left. It mistakenly localized MIC thinking to intellectual organs of the right like The National Review which expressed an ideology that could be as easily opposed as supported, which presented no threat to the left’s clout.

But while Wm. F. Buckley et al were presenting erudite cases for sending B-52s to bomb mainland China and other schemes equally subject to refutation, the real MIC was focusing on more practical concerns. How do you get the American people to support a war whose only purpose is to secure oil or otherwise make money? The question was reduced to: How do we get support for an attack on people who have not attacked us? The answer was simple enough: There needs to be an attack on us.

At this point I’m going to distance myself from the idea that 9/11 was somehow engineered or allowed to happen by U.S. interests. No ordinary person is in a position know such a thing, and there isn’t much point in speculating about it. The fact is, though, that 9/11 happened, and it was the closest thing to a Pearl Harbor since Pearl Harbor. Whether or not there was MIC complicity or foreknowledge, 9/11 is the event that made possible the current scenario, and the MIC is using it to the fullest extent to solve the problem it encountered in the 60’s.

The region we are going to war against is, roughly, Waziristan, straddling the border between northwest-Pakistan and eastern Afghanistan, an area every bit as impoverished, non-industrial and remote as any area of Southeast Asia was. We are told, however, that this Waziristan attacked us, that it blew up the Twin Towers, killing thousands of American citizens. It is a super-threat and the entirety of American military might must be thrown against it. In the face of this reasoning, the left is stunningly silent. How can this be? Enter Obama.

Let’s preface the Obama story by positing that Bush made Obama possible. The contrast between the men is, most would agree, quite flattering to Obama. Bush is a crude speaker, a man born into power who never learned the subtle arts of cajoling regular folk, who seems not to know that such arts can be required- the antithesis of Obama.  Bush’s invasion of Iraq, also predicated on fears of our 9/11 enemies, made no attempt to establish a credible link between the attack and our response. The left experienced a resurgence under Bush, as even the organs of the MIC stated that the perpetrators of 9/11 operated out of mobile camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan, with little or no Iraqi connection.

It was based on the MIC’s own public intel that Obama was in a position to speak against the Iraq invasion, and it is based on MIC intel that Obama proclaimed that we must overthrow war-monger Bush by directing American military might against mobile camps using goat herders as cover. The left, so enamored by Obama’s status as the first black president, by his eloquence on behalf of the underprivileged (in such contrast to Bush’s preference for his own privileged class), is sold on him to an astounding degree.

Look no further than its silence when, a few days before the Democratic Convention that nominated Obama, CIA drones blew up a wedding party in Waziristan, killing 40. Even from official American sources, one gathers that there was not a confirmed militant among the party. We massacred the families and extended families of a young bride and groom. Obama said not a word, and the left faulted him not.

Here are the questions that a more principled anti-war movement than the one currently enjoying that designation would be asking:

What is Waziristan? It’s easier to say what it is not. It is not a country. It has no central government and no military, and cannot be a conventional threat to anyone. It is a region of semi-nomadic tribes with a history of violent opposition to outside, imposed authority. There is, however, no history of aggression beyond its medieval reach- in other words, there are no instances of Waziri attacks on faraway places like England of Russia. Rather, these tribal people identify with their historical region and do not like the presence in their midst of outside, imposed authority. They are provincial in nature; they do not obsess about international events, but rather look for ways to become wealthy and amass wives on their own turf. Left to themselves, they wouldn’t care about us.

Yes, Waziristan could indeed be home to dangerous people of the Al Qaeda type. It could even be the home of the very men who planned 9/11. So, for that matter, could London, or Los Angeles. After all, Al Qaeda is not a mass movement, is not associated with any nation-state or specific area. It appears to be a rather small outfit, though it is clearly supported, financially and logistically, by powerful, wealthy groups (though the left, apparently, does not think it necessary to identify those groups, or go after them directly). With such support, Al Qaeda operatives should be able to reside just about anywhere, and if fact we are informed by the CIA that we can expect them to roam freely throughout the U.S.

Consider also that Al Qaeda would not necessarily find a welcome in Waziristan. It is, after all, an outside force, originating and receiving early support from the middle-east. Why would this foreign element be accepted among Waziri tribespeople? Why would they go out of their way to hide and maintain Al Qaeda forces? They have no history of accepting outsiders, but the oft quoted wisdom of the middle-east, that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend,” obtains everywhere. If we blithely blow up wedding parties, without a peep from our President, press, or “anti-war” movement, will we not be perceived as racists, who would never blow up a city bus in, say, Paris, because we suspect an Al Qaeda leader is on board, but will slay Waziri civilians right and left in support of suspected evil?

A credible U.S. policy would be an attack on Al Qaeda suited to Al Qaeda’s nature, a strike one could call “surgical” in the true sense, where a small force infiltrates Al Qaeda cells and takes them out, much as we infiltrate American organized crime cells and take out their leaders without blowing up restaurants filled with innocent diners.

What about it, American Left? Any chance you could wake up from your current dream and smell the coffee? If not, the dustbin of history awaits you.

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Post by: Julie Fern on March 07, 2009, 03:01:43 AM
yes,julie can tell from your apparent lack familiarty with subject-verb agreement you big writer.

not buying it,dipshit.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on April 13, 2009, 06:15:37 PM
Close aide of Baitullah Mehsud arrested

 By Faraz Khan

KARACHI: The Criminal Investigation Department (CID), in collaboration with an intelligence agency, has arrested a close aide of banned Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) chief Baitullah Mehsud.

CID SSP Fayyaz Khan disclosed on Monday that 59-year-old Badshah Deen Mehsud, son of Gul Khadeen Mehsud, a resident of Shah Noorani Goth, Karachi and South Waziristan, was arrested from Pyala Hotel, which is located within the jurisdiction of Sachal police station.

Badshah, who speaks Urdu and Pashto, is affiliated with the TTP and is a close aide of Baitullah Mehsud. One of his sons, Mehrban is also working for the TTP. Mehrban is currently in Waziristan and comes to Karachi for terror activities. “Basically, Badshah provided logistical support to Mehsud. He was involved in various crimes including robbing money changers and banks, and providing vehicles and shelter to those working for TTP in Karachi,” said Khan, adding that he also provided medical treatment to the injured associates. Badshah was on CID’s wanted list in its Red Book, page No 41.

SSP Khan said that the raid for his arrest was conducted upon receiving information by an intelligence agency about the culprit’s whereabouts. Badshah also helped the TTP members when the Anti Violent Crime Unit and intelligence agency officials conducted a raid in Sohrab Goth area for the arrests of the terrorists involved in the kidnapping of renowned filmmaker and distributor Satish Anand. The filmmaker has now been released from the captivity of Ilyas Kashmiri, who currently is running the banned religious organisation Harkatul Jihadul Islami. “Further investigations are underway into the matter,” the SSP added.

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Pakistani Militants Abduct 400 Students in North Waziristan 
By Catherine Maddux
Islamabad
01 June 2009
 

Pakistani officials say Taliban militants in North Waziristan have kidnapped about 400 students at a military college in Bannu district. 

Police in Bannu district say the students were traveling in around 30 vehicles and were stopped Monday evening after leaving Razmak Cadet College by heavily armed militants. Police say two of those vehicles were able to reach a police station, but 28 remain missing.

A council of local tribal elders, known as a jirga, was quickly arranged to try to negotiate with the kidnappers, whose demands were not immediately known. The police say the militants are associated with extremists based in North and South Waziristan.

Shaukat Khattak is a Pakistani television journalist based in Peshawar. He says the students were most likely abducted because they are easy targets.

"They [the militants] are engaged in a war with against Pakistani forces, not only in Swat Valley, but in different areas in Waziristan," said Shaukat Khattak. "And I think the students were a soft target for them. That's why they've been kidnapped. Because there was no proper security for the students."

Reports in Pakistan about the incident are conflicting. Some media quote school officials as saying only two or three vehicles were taken. But Bannu district police say 28 vehicles were missing with hundreds of students being held captive.

North and South Waziristan are strongholds for the Taliban and al-Qaida. Pakistani military troops have clashed with militants in recent days in South Waziristan, even as they battle Taliban militants further north in Swat Valley. 

Top Taliban leaders have vowed to stage attacks to avenge the month-long military offensive in Swat Valley following the collapse of a controversial peace deal to impose strict Islamic law in the region.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on June 08, 2009, 05:43:03 PM
Angry Pakistani villagers fight, surround Taliban

By Kamran Haider
Reuters
Monday, June 8, 2009; 5:42 AM

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistani villagers enraged with the Taliban after the bombing of a mosque battled the militants on Monday, underscoring a shift in public opinion away from the hardline Islamists.

The military has been fighting the Taliban in the Swat valley, northwest of the capital, for more than a month after the militants took advantage of a peace pact to conquer new areas.

In retaliation for the offensive, the Taliban have stepped up bomb attacks and are suspected of being behind a suicide blast at a mosque in the Upper Dir region, near Swat, that killed about 40 people on Friday.

Outraged by the attack, villagers formed a militia, known as a lashkar, of about 500 men and began fighting the militants on Saturday in an bid to force them out of their area.


A top government official in Upper Dir, Atif-ur-Rehman, said the militia fighters had pushed the Taliban out of three villages and surrounded them in another two.

"About 150 militants are believed to be there putting up resistance. But the villagers are doing well, they're squeezing the militants," Rehman told Reuters by telephone.

The United States, which needs sustained Pakistani action to help defeat al Qaeda and to cut off militant support for the Afghan Taliban, has been heartened by the resolve the government and military are showing in the Swat offensive.

Alarmed by the prospect of nuclear-armed Pakistan drifting into chaos, the United States had criticized a February pact with the Taliban in the former tourist valley of Swat.

The Swat offensive also has broad public support in a country where many people have long been suspicious of the United States and government critics have decried fighting "America's war."


The February pact aimed at placating the Taliban in Swat by introducing Islamic sharia law sailed through parliament with only one or two voices of dissent.

But much has changed since then.

A Taliban push into a district 100 km (60 miles) from Islamabad, a widely circulated video of Taliban flogging a teenaged girl and the Islamists' denunciation of the constitution as "unIslamic" have sharply shifted public opinion.

The villagers' action in Upper Dir is the latest in a series of instances of people turning on the Taliban. Rehman said security forces could help the militia if necessary.

"We don't want to step in right now as they're fighting at close quarters and there is a chance of losses on the villagers' side if we use artillery," he said.

While the government retains public support for the offensive, it could lose it if the 2.5 million people displaced by fighting in the northwest languish in misery.

The government is organizing relief with the help of the United Nations and other agencies but aid officials say Pakistan faces a long-term humanitarian crisis.


The military says it has snuffed out organized resistance in Swat and it hopes people can begin returning home after the middle of this month. On Monday, the military relaxed a curfew in areas near Swat to allow people to flee or shop for supplies.

Meanwhile, cities are on alert for bomb attacks.

Police in Karachi said on Sunday they had arrested an associate of Pakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Meshud and seized "jackets" to be used in suicide attacks. Police said the suspect had confessed to planning attacks.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on July 11, 2009, 11:00:57 AM
...pakistanis are now taking control of their own region with assistance of u.s. and drones are working well...obama is brilliantly taking over where "w" left off..and following the bush model: "stay the course"....thank god.


Obama sends marines to suppress population of southern Afghanistan or "troop surge to lawless tribal waziristan region to aid pakistanis"
By James Cogan
4 July 2009


The Obama administration has ordered the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade (2 MEB) into a potentially bloody offensive in the southern province of Helmand. The objective is the suppression of the ethnic Pashtun population, which is overwhelmingly hostile to the seven-and-a-half year US and NATO occupation of the country and rejects the legitimacy of the Afghan puppet government headed by President Hamid Karzai.


Early Thursday morning, 2 MEB began what has been described as the biggest airlift of marines since the Vietnam War. Code-named “Khanjar”—Pashtun for “strike of the sword”—the operation is the largest undertaken by the Marine Corp since it led the assault on the Iraqi city of Fallujah in November 2004. In all, some 4,000 marines and a 600-strong battalion of the Afghan Army are involved, supported by an array of jet fighters, unmanned drones and helicopter gunships.


An article in Friday’s New York Times by veteran war correspondent Carlotta Gall, who has worked in Afghanistan and Pakistan since 2001, made clear why Helmand has been targeted for the first major operation in Obama’s Afghan “surge”.


She wrote that the “mood of the Afghan people has tipped into a popular revolt in some parts of southern Afghanistan”. People have “taken up arms against the foreign troops to protect their homes or in anger at losing relatives in airstrikes”.


Gall noted: “The southern provinces have suffered the worst civilian casualties since NATO’s deployment into the region in 2006. Thousands of people have been displaced by fighting and taken refuge in the towns. ‘Now there are more people siding with the Taliban than with the government’, said Abdul Qadir Noorzai, head of the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission...”


One man interviewed by Gall in June declared: “Who are the Taliban? They are the local people.” Another, whose house was bombed by US jets two months ago, said: “We Muslims don’t like them [the foreign troops]. They are the source of danger.”


Gall’s outline of the real state of affairs refutes the barrage of propaganda depicting the offensive as aimed at saving the people from Taliban tyranny, allowing them to vote in upcoming elections and creating conditions for economic development. Helmand is, in reality, the epicentre of popular resistance to the occupation. Thousands of troops have been poured in to force the population to submit.


In the first days of the operation, marine infantry soldiers have been deployed deep into the lower Helmand River Valley, to the south of the new American base near the city of Lashkar Gah. They have occupied the towns of Nawa and Garmser, as well as Khan Neshin, just 130 kilometres from the Pakistani border, which has not been visited by occupation or Afghan government forces for more than five years.


The marine assault was preceded by a British operation two weeks ago to seize 13 river crossings to the north of Lashkar Gah, in order to prevent Taliban reinforcements entering Helmand from insurgent-held areas of the neighbouring province of Kandahar. Yesterday, British units began a new offensive to secure the road between Lashkar Gah and the town of Gereshk in the north of the province.


US officers told the Washington Post that “Khanjar” was the product of months of planning. It has been conceived for Obama by the same figures who directed the Bush administration’s surge of tens of thousands of additional troops to Iraq in 2007. These include, most notably, Defence Secretary Robert Gates, Chairman of the Joints Chief of Staff Admiral Michael Mullen, Centcom commander General David Petraeus and the recently appointed US commander in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal.


The offensive has been timed to coincide with the initial stages of an assault
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on July 11, 2009, 11:01:29 AM
by the Pakistani military into the tribal agency of South Waziristan. The ethnic Pashtun tribal agencies are largely controlled by Islamist movements with close links to the Taliban, who provide Afghan guerillas with safe haven and contribute their own fighters to the anti-occupation insurgency.


The combined operations were described by a Pakistani officer as a “hammer and anvil” strategy. The intention is to force the Taliban to fight on two fronts, against both the US/NATO and Pakistani forces. Mahmood Shah, a retired Pakistani officer, told the Washington Post last month that his sources indicated that Taliban leaders had already “called back their fighters from Afghanistan and are bringing them to Pakistan” to meet an expected attack by the army. The Pakistani military has also deployed additional troops to the border between Helmand and the Pakistani province of Balochistan, to prevent any Afghan Taliban escaping the marines.


The marines in Helmand will duplicate the methods used by the US military in Iraq and they are well qualified to do so. Most of the 2 MEB units, and many of the officers and enlisted men, served one or multiple tours in Iraq’s western province of Anbar. The surge tactics were first tested in Anbar, a centre of Sunni Arab resistance to the US invasion. Over two years, the marines honed their counter-insurgency methods at the cost of thousands of Iraqi lives and the repression of the entire population.


Everyone in the newly occupied areas of Helmand—men, women and children—will be treated as potential insurgents. Bases will be established in towns and villages, from which US troops will use intimidation to identify resistance fighters. Afghans will face constant road-blocks, identity checks and searches. Men of fighting age will have to endure the most humiliating treatment. Local tribal leaders will be offered cash bribes to order their clans to collaborate with the occupation. If they refuse, they will be marked as Taliban sympathisers.


While rarely mentioned in the media’s sanitised descriptions, US counter-insurgency tactics rely heavily on targeted assassinations and arbitrary detention. General McChrystal has been placed in command in Afghanistan primarily due to his expertise in directing such operations. From 2003 to 2008, he headed the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), whose death squads killed or seized hundreds of alleged leaders and supporters of the Iraqi resistance. The same methods are already being used across Afghanistan by American, British and Australian special forces, and will now be extended into southern Helmand.


In the first days of the Helmand offensive, resistance has been minimal. One marine company fought what an officer described as a “hell of a fight” with Afghan fighters south of Garsmer on Thursday. After hours of gunfire, a jet fighter was called in to destroy the insurgent position with a 500-pound bomb. Further minor clashes took place yesterday. In the areas around Nawa and Khan Neshin, there have been no reports of clashes.


To date, just one marine has been killed and some 11 wounded. Dozens of others have needed treatment for heat exhaustion in the blistering temperatures of the Afghan summer. The British and Danish troops operating in the northern districts of Helmand have also taken casualties. On Wednesday, two British soldiers were killed and six others wounded by a roadside bomb outside Lashkar Gah. Among the dead was Lieutenant Colonel Rupert Thorneloe, the highest ranking British officer to be killed in combat since the 1982 Falklands War. The same day, a Danish soldier was seriously wounded by a suspected mine.


Despite the absence of heavy fighting, concerns have been expressed that the operation may fail due to a lack of troops. According to the Washington Post, the 2 MEB commander, Brigadier General Lawrence Nicholson, had apparently expected that thousands of Afghan government troops would be allocated to “Khanjar”. Instead, only 600 or so are taking part.


Nicholson described the paucity of Afghan forces as a “critical vulnerability”. His marines will be stretched trying to hold what is still only a relatively small area of Taliban-controlled territory, under conditions in which the insurgents are unlikely to confront them in open combat. After more than seven years, the Taliban has learnt to avoid one-sided engagements with the far better armed occupation troops. The resistance will either blend into the sympathetic civilian population or move to safe sites in other areas of Afghanistan. The marines, by contrast, will suffer a steady flow of casualties from roadside bombs, mines and other guerilla attacks.


There are already signs that top Pentagon commanders are pressuring the Obama White House to send even more troops to Afghanistan. To date, Obama has insisted he will not deploy more than the additional 21,000 he ordered to the country upon taking office. General David McKiernan, the former US commander in Afghanistan, was summarily sacked in May largely due to his insistence that more were needed.


Disquiet in the military has clearly not been silenced. McClatchy Newspapers reported on Wednesday that National Security Advisor James Jones, who had just returned from Central Asia, had “started to hear rumblings that new commanders and officials being sent to Afghanistan would quickly urge another shift in strategy and more troops”. An unnamed senior officer allegedly told journalist Bob Woodward that at least 100,000 were needed.


When all the reinforcements arrive, there will be 68,000 American troops in the country and some 30,000 from various NATO countries, many of which are operating under caveats that prevent them moving into combat zones.


Late Wednesday, Joint Chiefs Admiral Mullen told journalists that his instructions to General McChrystal were to come back to him and “ask for what you need” in the way of additional troops. There is no reason to doubt that Obama will accept whatever the military demands. From his election campaign on, he has identified his presidency with not only “winning” the war in Afghanistan but extending it into Pakistan. Behind the façade of rooting out Islamic extremism and terrorism, the agenda is, and always has been, the establishment of US strategic dominance throughout Central Asia.
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Post by: Julie Fern on July 12, 2009, 04:41:53 AM
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on July 12, 2009, 09:40:07 AM
getting paid by (someone else's) word?

how do you know what aye've written and what aye have not?

...that would be too easy, bigotboy...
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on July 12, 2009, 10:50:40 AM
U.S. drone strike kills 5 militants in Pakistan

Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:57am IST 

By Zeeshan Haider

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - A pilotless U.S. drone fired two missiles into a Taliban communication centre in a volatile tribal region on the Afghan border, killing five militants, intelligence officials said on Saturday.

The attack on the centre run by Baitullah Mehsud, Pakistani Taliban chief and an al Qaeda ally, took place late on Friday in the South Waziristan region.

"The communication centre is totally destroyed and we have reports of the death of five militants," an intelligence agency official told Reuters by telephone from the region.

The United States, grappling with an intensifying Afghan insurgency, began stepping up attacks by drones on northwestern Pakistani militant enclaves a year ago.

Most of the recent attacks have hit Mehsud's targets in Waziristan in northwestern Pakistan. More than 40 fighters were killed in similar strikes in the region on Wednesday.

U.S. military officials accuse Mehsud of providing suicide bombers for insurgents attacks against U.S., NATO and Afghan targets in Afghanistan. The United States has announced a reward of $5 million on information leading to the arrest or location of Mehsud.

The militant leader is also accused of being behind the assassination of former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto in 2007 and a campaign of suicide and bomb attacks across the country in recent years.

The Pakistani military has also carried out air strikes on Mehsud's targets in recent weeks and is preparing to mount an all-out assault against him as it nears the end of an offensive in northwestern Swat valley launched in late April

U.S. officials said on Thursday U.S. military surveillance drones have resumed tracking militants in Pakistan to support Pakistani operations in South Waziristan.

The U.S. military began surveillance flights over Pakistani territory in mid-March but ceased a month later when Pakistan abruptly stopped requesting the intelligence. Officials said the missions resumed early last month.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the drones provide Pakistan with video images, communications intercepts and other information from border areas controlled by Mehsud.

The flights are not connected with U.S. missile attacks from CIA drones, which the Pakistan government has condemned.

Separately, 10 Taliban and a soldier were killed in a gunfight after militants attacked a checkpost in Zhob district in a southwestern province of Baluchistan late on Friday, government and intelligence officials said.

Baluchistan borders southern Afghanistan where U.S. Marines launched a major new offensive a week ago.

Pakistan, already battling militants in the northwest, has expressed worries about the influx of insurgents into its territory if fighting intensified in Afghan south.

(Additional reporting by Gul Yousafzai in QUETTA)
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Post by: Julie Fern on July 13, 2009, 10:37:06 AM
getting paid by (someone else's) word?

how do you know what aye've written and what aye have not?

...that would be too easy, bigotboy...

you not publish so much as your fantasies about princess leia.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on July 14, 2009, 10:22:27 PM
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Post by: Julie Fern on July 15, 2009, 10:46:52 AM
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on July 26, 2009, 10:24:33 PM
Better news from the frontier

Jul 23rd 2009

From The Economist

A modest success against the Taliban in Malakand; now the battle must be taken to more powerful militants

LONG reviled for their reluctance to fight the Islamist militancy that they themselves helped unleash, Pakistan’s generals have a rare victory to boast of. In a three-month offensive against the Taliban in North-West Frontier Province (NWFP), the army has regained control of the lofty Malakand region, killing hundreds of militants. This has done less damage to civilian life and property than two previous, failed offensives in Malakand. The local Pushtuns, over 2m of whom were displaced by the fighting, are now returning home. They mostly support the army’s efforts.

This success is not hard to fathom. The Taliban’s takeover in Malakand caused an outcry not just in Washington, DC, but also in Pakistan’s own media. Many blamed it on the army, which had made several truces with the militants in Malakand. Thus goaded, the top brass launched an unusually serious attack. Having previously failed to control Swat, the Taliban’s regional base, with a division, the generals sent in three divisions. Rather than allowing the militants to withdraw in good order, this time they chased them into Malakand’s hills.

There is much to celebrate in this, not least a hope that it will boost army morale. Over the course of a hapless six-year campaign in north-western Pakistan, the ideological aversion many Pakistani soldiers initially felt to killing their Muslim compatriots has often ceded to despair at their poor progress. Some 1,900 Pakistani troops have been killed and hundreds taken hostage, as the Taliban’s influence spread. It is therefore crucial that the army’s recent advances are not reversed. The generals seem to appreciate this. The troops are supposed to remain in Malakand for a year, while the local police force is retrained and enlarged. That is asking a lot of NWFP’s government, which must also swiftly restore refugees to their homes and rebuild shattered infrastructure. But if it fails, grievances will fester that the Taliban might well exploit.

The tougher forms of Taliban
Having done well in Malakand, the army should now be expected to put up a stiffer fight elsewhere—starting with a more hostile quarter, the semi-autonomous tribal agency of South Waziristan. On public demand, it is plotting a renewed campaign against the Pakistani Taliban’s supreme leader, Baitullah Mehsud, who has his fief there. This is overdue. Mr Mehsud is chiefly responsible for the suicide-blasts that have ripped through Pakistan’s main cities in recent years, terrorising Pakistanis and banishing foreign investors. Eliminating him may be hard; with the backing of his bellicose tribe, in remote terrain, Mr Mehsud is a more formidable militant than those in Swat. Yet, for the first time, it seems likely to happen.

This is welcome. But it is too soon to speak of a watershed in Pakistan’s faltering campaign against militancy. Success in South Waziristan, which Pakistan only notionally administers, would look much more modest than that in Malakand. To protect its supply-lines there, for example, the army may have to buy support from two other Taliban commanders. And having dealt with Mr Mehsud, in what would in effect be a joint operation with his Taliban rivals, the army may well intend to withdraw from South Waziristan. That would be wrong. If Pakistan is serious about defeating the Taliban, the tribal areas must be somewhat tamed.

With rough control over the tribal areas, the army could do a better job of quelling jihadist raids into Afghanistan. Several Pakistani militant leaders dedicate their forces chiefly to such jaunts—including the pair the army is allegedly courting in Waziristan. The army has not made much effort to stop them. The ostensible excuse—that it is unable to do so—looks less tenable now it has some military successes against the Taliban. But there remains a suspicion that some generals want Afghanistan’s government to fail. Recent moaning that the American-led surge in Afghanistan may drive militants over the border suggests that at best many are loth to help their neighbour.

How shortsighted. If, as Pakistan’s commanders also like to complain, their Taliban insurgency is largely a consequence of the jihad next-door, it is in their interest to try harder to help NATO and the Afghan government to end it. That would really be a watershed.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on August 21, 2009, 08:40:39 PM
US Predators target the Haqqanis in North Waziristan

By Bill RoggioAugust 20, 2009 6:22 PM

An unmanned US Predator aircraft fired missiles at the Haqqani Network in Pakistan’s Taliban-controlled tribal area of North Waziristan.

Two Hellfire missiles struck in the town of Darpa Khel near Miramshah, a known stronghold of the Haqqani Network. Twelve Taliban fighters from Afghanistan were reported killed, but no high value Taliban or al Qaeda targets have been reported killed at this time.

A senior Haqqani Network commander and an al Qaeda operative were the targets of the strike, a US intelligence official told The Long War Journal. The official would not identify the names of the leaders targeted.

The strike in Danda Darpa Khel is the third in the town since September 2008. The Haqqani Network has a strong presence in the town. The Haqqanis' madrassa, known as the Manba Ulom, is in the town of Danda Darpa Khel. In the two strikes last year, the Manba Ulom compound was struck both times.

The Taliban have stepped up attacks against Pakistani military convoys, bases, and checkpoints in North Waziristan. Even though the Taliban have conducted several suicide attacks and ambushes against military convoys moving through the region, the military has only retaliated, usually with air and artillery strikes. The Pakistani military continues to insist that a 16-month-old peace agreement with North Waziristan Taliban leader Hafiz Gul Bahadar is intact.

Third strike this month

Today's attack in North Waziristan is only the third strike in August as well as the third since July 17. The last attack took place on Aug. 11 in South Waziristan. During the first 17 days of July, the US conducted seven airstrikes in Pakistan.

The US has shifted the focus of its covert air campaign in Pakistan's tribal areas almost exclusively to targeting Pakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud in South Waziristan. Of the 34 US strikes carried out in Pakistan this year, 24 have taken place in South Waziristan.

The US and Pakistani governments believe that Baitullah was killed in the Aug. 5 strike but have not provided evidence to back up the claim. The Taliban have insisted that Baitullah is alive but suffering from an illness. Just yesterday, Faqir Mohammed, Baitullah’s deputy, temporarily took control of the Taliban.

The US is well on its way to exceeding last year's total of 36 airstrikes in Pakistan.

Danda Darpa Khel and the Haqqani Network

The Manba Ulom madrassa was established by Jalaluddin Haqqani, the family patriarch and renowned mujahedeen commander who has close ties with Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar. In the 1980s, the madrassa was used to train mujahedeen to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. After the US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, the Haqqani family used the Manba Ulom madrassa as a training center and meeting place for senior al Qaeda leaders.

The Pakistani government closed the madrassa down in 2002, but it was reopened in 2004. Since then, Taliban fighters and members of al Qaeda's network have been known to take shelter in the madrassa compound.

The madrassa serves as the headquarters for the Haqqani Network, while the forward operating command center in Afghanistan is located in the village of Zambar in the northern Sabari district of Khost province, Afghanistan. The network is active in the Afghan provinces of Khost, Paktia, Paktika, Ghazni, Logar, Wardak, and Kabul, and provides support to Taliban networks in Kunar, Nangarhar, Helmand, and Kandahar provinces.

The Haqqanis have extensive links with al Qaeda and with Pakistan’s military intelligence agency, the Inter-Service Intelligence, or ISI. These relationships have allowed the Haqqani Network to survive and thrive in North Waziristan. The Haqqanis control large swaths of North Waziristan, and run a parallel administration with courts, recruiting centers, tax offices, and security forces.

Siraj Haqqani, a son of Jalaluddin, has risen in prominence over the past year. He is believed to be the mastermind of the most deadly attacks inside Afghanistan and to be the senior military commander in eastern Afghanistan. The US military has described Siraj as the primary threat to security in eastern Afghanistan.

Siraj is considered dangerous not only for his ties with the Afghan Taliban, but also because of his connections with al Qaeda's central leadership, which extend all the way to Osama bin Laden. On March 25, the US Department of State put out a $5 million bounty for information leading to the capture of Siraj.


Background on US strikes against al Qaeda and Taliban networks in northwestern Pakistan
US intelligence believes that al Qaeda has reconstituted its external operations network in Pakistan's lawless, Taliban-controlled tribal areas. This network is tasked with hitting targets in the West, India, and elsewhere. The US has struck at these external cells using unmanned Predator aircraft and other means in an effort to disrupt al Qaeda's external network and decapitate the leadership. The US also has targeted al Qaeda-linked Taliban fighters operating in Afghanistan, particularly the notorious Haqqani Network.

As of last summer, al Qaeda and the Taliban operated 157 known training camps in the tribal areas and the Northwest Frontier Province. Al Qaeda has been training terrorists holding Western passports to conduct attacks, US intelligence officials have told The Long War Journal. Some of the camps are devoted to training the Taliban's military arm; some train suicide bombers for attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan; some focus on training the various Kashmiri terror groups; some train al Qaeda operatives for attacks in the West; some train the Lashkar al Zil, al Qaeda's Shadow Army; and one serves as a training ground for the Black Guard, the elite bodyguard unit for Osama bin Laden, Ayman al Zawahiri, and other senior al Qaeda leaders.

There were 36 recorded cross-border attacks and attempts in Pakistan during 2008, according to numbers compiled by The Long War Journal. Twenty-nine of those attacks took place after Aug. 31. There were only 10 recorded strikes in 2006 and 2007 combined.

During 2008, the US strikes inside Pakistan's tribal areas killed five senior al Qaeda leaders. All five were involved in supporting al Qaeda's external operations directed at the West.

Abu Laith al Libi, a senior military commander in Afghanistan, was killed in a strike in North Waziristan in January 2008.

Abu Sulayman Jazairi, al Qaeda’s external operations chief, was killed in a strike in Bajaur in March 2008.

Abu Khabab al Masri, al Qaeda's weapons of mass destruction chief, and several senior members of his staff were killed in a strike in South Waziristan in July 2008.

Khalid Habib, the leader of al Qaeda's paramilitary Shadow Army, was killed in a region controlled by Baitullah Mehsud in South Waziristan in October 2008.

Abu Jihad al Masri, the leader of the Egyptian Islamic Group and a member of al Qaeda's top council, was killed in North Waziristan in October 2008.

In 2009, US strikes have killed two senior, long-time al Qaeda leaders. Osama al Kini and his senior aide, Sheikh Ahmed Salim Swedan, were killed in a New Year's Day strike in South Waziristan. Kini was al Qaeda's operations chief in Pakistan. Both men were behind the 1998 bombings of the US embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania; and Nairobi, Kenya; which killed 224 civilians and wounded more than 5,000 others.



Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/08/us_predators_target.php#ixzz0OndpB3Bd
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on August 31, 2009, 10:31:06 PM
...ahha....


Pakistan Asks Swat Residents to Back Police After Mingora Bomb

 

By Paul Tighe and Khaleeq Ahmed

Aug. 31 (Bloomberg) -- Pakistan called on residents of the Swat Valley to help security forces tackle extremists after a suicide bomb attack in Mingora, the region’s main city, killed 16 trainee policemen.

The bombing yesterday at Mingora police station shows the “barbaric and retrogressive mindset” of the extremists, the state-run Associated Press of Pakistan cited Owais Ahmed Ghani, the governor of North West Frontier Province, as saying yesterday. People need to cooperate with security forces to ensure lasting peace in the region, he said.

The bomber may have jumped the wall at the police center and detonated his explosives while the trainees were exercising, APP reported, citing police. President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani condemned the attack.

Pakistan’s army said it retook control of the Swat Valley from Taliban fighters last month after a 10-week offensive. More than 1 million people who fled the conflict have returned to the region in recent weeks, according to the United Nations, many going to Mingora. The city had a population of 200,000 people before the fighting.

The extremists, who are already on the run, are killing civilians in frustration,  APP cited Ghani as saying.

Pakistani soldiers arrested 44 militants during search operations in the Swat region, the army said yesterday.

Taliban Leadership

The Taliban leadership in Pakistan is “almost finished” after the death of Baitullah Mehsud, the leader of the Tehrik-e- Taliban Pakistan in the South Waziristan region bordering Afghanistan, Interior Minister Rehman Maliksaid yesterday.

Security forces are trying to ensure that the terrorists aren’t able to regroup, he said.

Taliban spokesman Maulvi Omar, who was arrested on Aug. 17, confirmed to his captors that Mehsud was killed in a U.S. missile strike earlier this month, the Dawn newspaper reported Aug. 19. Mehsud led the 5,000-member TTP, an alliance of about five groups he formed in 2007 in South Waziristan, according to the U.S. Military Academy’s Combating Terrorism Center at West Point.

U.S. government and military officials, including Richard Holbrooke, the special envoy for Pakistan and Afghanistan, and General Stanley McChrystal, the commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, pressed Pakistan to continue its offensives against the Taliban when they visited the capital, Islamabad, earlier this month.

President Barack Obama has said a U.S. non-military aid package to Pakistan worth $1.5 billion a year is conditional on the government cracking down on Taliban and al-Qaeda fighters in regions bordering Afghanistan.

Several vehicles carrying supplies for NATO forces in Afghanistan were set on fire by a bomb yesterday in Chaman, a Pakistani town near the border, APP reported, citing local police. Hundreds of trucks have been delayed near Chaman for the past two days because of security concerns, it said.

To contact the reporters on this story: Paul Tighe in Sydney at ptighe@bloomberg.net; Khaleeq Ahmed in Islamabad, Pakistan at paknews@bloomberg.net.
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Post by: Julie Fern on September 01, 2009, 04:25:01 AM
please, tell us more.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on September 01, 2009, 11:19:09 PM
tell you more? you hear voices?  :D :D :D :D


please, tell us more.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on September 01, 2009, 11:20:52 PM
Pakistani Forces Attack Militants in South Waziristan
 
By VOA News
26 August 2009
 

 
Pakistani officials say their helicopter gunships have stepped up attacks on Taliban targets in South Waziristan, near the Afghan border.

Security officials say Wednesday's military strikes were aimed at suspected militant hideouts east of South Waziristan's main town of Wana. They add that two soldiers have been killed in the operations.

The attacks come a day after commanders of the Pakistani Taliban announced that their former leader, Baitullah Mehsud, died Sunday from wounds suffered in a U.S missile strike more than two weeks earlier.

U.S. and Pakistani officials had said they believed Mehsud was killed in an August 5 missile strike in South Waziristan, but until Tuesday, the Taliban had insisted he was alive.

On Saturday, another Taliban commander said the group had named Hakimullah Mehsud to replace Mehsud
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Post by: Julie Fern on September 02, 2009, 05:37:25 PM
you bucking for extra credit with your middle school teacher?
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on September 02, 2009, 11:23:43 PM
....more operations to follow...pakistan is finally engaged in this...drones aid the battle...finally tribal leaders one at a time will turn this around for the region...and diplomacy will end this thing....


PAKISTAN: Tension in Waziristan prompts fear of further displacements   


ISLAMABAD, 2 September 2009 (IRIN) - Two suicide bombings which have claimed 38 lives over the past week have heightened tension in the tribal agency of South Waziristan, bordering Afghanistan: People fear a fierce army operation may be about to be launched.

The attacks - the first at the Torkham border post between Pakistan and Afghanistan on 27 August, and the second three days later in Mingora, the principal city of Swat - targeted security forces and have been claimed by the Pakistani Taliban.

"The security forces are determined to defeat anti-state elements and the operation against them is continuing at all levels," Brig Tahir Hamid, the army officer in charge of the operation in Swat, told the media after the Mingora attack.

The suicide attacks, which have raised fears of a Taliban revival, mean there is a greater likelihood of a full-fledged military operation in South Waziristan - now seen as the most important stronghold of the militants, say observers.

Last month, Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan announced its new leader following the death of Baitullah Mehsud, the man thought to be behind attacks which have claimed hundreds of lives in Pakistan over the past two years.

"All the terrorist elements have not yet been vanquished. There is a need to do more to defeat them," Mian Iftikhar Hussain, information minister for the North West Frontier Province (NWFP), said.

Displacement in North, South Waziristan
I am shifting my wife, my parents and my four children to Peshawar. I don't want to be caught in a situation where roads are closed due to fighting, or transport becomes impossible to find. 

At least 126,300 people have already fled from the adjoining North and South Waziristan agencies and have been registered, according to the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), in the Tank and Dera Ismail Khan Districts. It is not yet known how many more may join them, but people continue to leave the area each day.

"I am shifting my wife, my parents and my four children to Peshawar. I don't want to be caught in a situation where roads are closed due to fighting, or transport becomes impossible to find," Azim Wazir, 40, told IRIN from Wana, the principal city of South Waziristan.

Waziris are familiar with the destruction conflict can bring and there have indeed been periodic displacements from the agency.

UN agencies have been preparing for possible displacements from Waziristan. UN Humanitarian Coordinator in Pakistan Martin Mogwanja told a press conference in Islamabad "the number of IDPs eventually depends on the scale and nature of the military operation." He also said goods had been stockpiled at a base in Bhakkar District, Punjab Province, in preparation for such an eventuality.

As people displaced from Swat, Dir and Buner districts of NWFP return home and start re-building their lives, a fresh wave of displacements could lie just ahead, analysts say.

"We are scared of this. Things are very tense here and we believe it may be just weeks before we find ourselves caught in war," Azim Wazir said
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Post by: Julie Fern on September 03, 2009, 05:14:56 AM
you still not going pass social studies.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on October 23, 2009, 05:14:07 PM
...lets see...when was it that aye told ya'll that this thing was about waziristan?  more drones...and lets put up a nice prison perimeter around the taliban and al quedah...waziristan has been a good cage...

...lets not forget about al zawahiri!!!!
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Post by: Julie Fern on January 02, 2010, 02:06:22 PM
yes, you been predicting victory many years now.

dipshit.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on January 03, 2010, 02:21:37 PM
yes, you been predicting victory many years now.

dipshit.


hey fool...there is no victory in war...only containment...and bam is providing the perimeter for the prison that is waziristan...

victory is in the operation success...containment comes only after time and this is going to take some time...it is necessary for our focus on this area...

how are dovesellers doing with getting bush to begin bringing troops home from iraq? aye think bush's surge ended and bush started the draw down already

how are dovesellers doing with getting obama to begin bringing troops home from japan? answer: they gave up...buch of pansies.


the liberal hacks have become a marginalized wimper in the dinocrat party...we have stronger conservatives running the show than ever before...that is success...and

NO ONE in the democratic party is going to do anything to thwart with obamas mission in waziristan and pakistan...not nancy pelosi...not russ feingold...not al franken...


read the news stupid....follow along with the rest of the class.
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Post by: Julie Fern on January 03, 2010, 03:58:04 PM
your fantasy world would be deeply disturbing if you had ounce of power in world.

here litle hint:  goats not care!
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on January 03, 2010, 06:41:06 PM
your fantasy world would be deeply disturbing if you had ounce of power in world.

here litle hint:  goats not care!


 :D :D :D

you have no idea...
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Post by: Julie Fern on January 04, 2010, 12:38:56 AM
correct.  julie's knowledge of goats limited, especially their naughty parts.

shame on you.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on January 11, 2010, 08:49:28 PM
correct.  julie's knowledge of goats limited, especially their naughty parts.

shame on you.

why u so obsessed with goats? this thread has nothing to do with goats?
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Post by: Julie Fern on January 12, 2010, 06:13:52 PM
if you in thread, it have plenty do with goatfucking.
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Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on January 25, 2010, 07:57:28 PM
if you in thread, it have plenty do with goatfucking.

this thread is about where our national security interests will be turning and how bam is taking it to the crescenting guerrillas...

but drone on about your little fettish, bigotboy...
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Post by: Julie Fern on January 26, 2010, 05:04:02 AM
terrorists like crescent rolls?