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Title: Does it mean anything when a firm asks for a transcript?
Post by: gubdowb83 on July 24, 2008, 05:43:11 PM
Does it mean anything when a firm you've applied to asks for a transcript, or has my desperation driven me nuts?

I'm 3L at a top 20 school, in the middle of my class...I applied to a BigLaw firm a week ago and got an email today requesting a copy of my transcripts.

Does that mean they've seen the GPA on my resume and are still willing to consider me? Or is getting the transcript merely a meaningless formality?

I realize I could just wait for my rejection letter/email to come, but I'm desperate enough to ask what you guys think (I realize I am opening myself up to extreme abuse here, btw).

Title: Re: Does it mean anything when a firm asks for a transcript?
Post by: jacy85 on July 24, 2008, 07:14:31 PM
Well, common sense tells me that it seems like a huge waste of time to request a transcript from you (both on your end, and most importantly, their end) if they weren't even going to consider you.  Most people that get rejections get them after a glance at the resume.

So while I don't think its a sign from god that an offer's coming, but there's no reason not to be at least a little optimistic about it.
Title: Re: Does it mean anything when a firm asks for a transcript?
Post by: bitblaster on July 24, 2008, 08:58:03 PM
Does it mean anything when a firm you've applied to asks for a transcript, or has my desperation driven me nuts?

I'm 3L at a top 20 school, in the middle of my class...I applied to a BigLaw firm a week ago and got an email today requesting a copy of my transcripts.

Does that mean they've seen the GPA on my resume and are still willing to consider me? Or is getting the transcript merely a meaningless formality?

I realize I could just wait for my rejection letter/email to come, but I'm desperate enough to ask what you guys think (I realize I am opening myself up to extreme abuse here, btw).



I've heard from an attorney who used to do interviewing that sometimes the recruiting administrator simply needs all materials required by the firm before the candidate is considered, regardless of his qualifications.

Then again, they might be interested.
Title: Re: Does it mean anything when a firm asks for a transcript?
Post by: yykm on July 25, 2008, 08:45:16 AM
Does it mean anything when a firm you've applied to asks for a transcript, or has my desperation driven me nuts?

I'm 3L at a top 20 school, in the middle of my class...I applied to a BigLaw firm a week ago and got an email today requesting a copy of my transcripts.

Does that mean they've seen the GPA on my resume and are still willing to consider me? Or is getting the transcript merely a meaningless formality?

I realize I could just wait for my rejection letter/email to come, but I'm desperate enough to ask what you guys think (I realize I am opening myself up to extreme abuse here, btw).



I've heard from an attorney who used to do interviewing that sometimes the recruiting administrator simply needs all materials required by the firm before the candidate is considered, regardless of his qualifications.

Then again, they might be interested.
This has been my experience.  I applied to some firms outside OCI as a 2L and a few asked me for a transcript (even though I attached one to my initial email).  All of such firms sent a rejection letter. 

The recruiting admin probably just wants to have everything in your file when she submits all of the applications to be reviewed.
Title: Re: Does it mean anything when a firm asks for a transcript?
Post by: deedeeleigh on July 25, 2008, 08:47:09 AM
Semi-related question--if you apply to a firm (not through OCI) do they generally send rejection letters? Or is it like other fields where you just never hear back?
Title: Re: Does it mean anything when a firm asks for a transcript?
Post by: gubdowb83 on July 25, 2008, 09:23:31 AM
Thanks for the feedback folks. With respect to the last post, firms will usually send you a rejection letter by regular mail if you've applied to them through OCI.
Title: Re: Does it mean anything when a firm asks for a transcript?
Post by: yykm on July 28, 2008, 06:15:56 AM
Semi-related question--if you apply to a firm (not through OCI) do they generally send rejection letters? Or is it like other fields where you just never hear back?
They should send rejection letters, though I've heard that some smaller firms don't necessarily send them out.  Regardless, you should keep a list of the firms to which you've applied and check back with them every 2 weeks until you hear a decision.
Title: Re: Does it mean anything when a firm asks for a transcript?
Post by: tribelaw on July 28, 2008, 06:25:34 AM
Semi-related question--if you apply to a firm (not through OCI) do they generally send rejection letters? Or is it like other fields where you just never hear back?
They should send rejection letters, though I've heard that some smaller firms don't necessarily send them out.  Regardless, you should keep a list of the firms to which you've applied and check back with them every 2 weeks until you hear a decision.

every 2 weeks?  Seems like they would be overwhelmed if everyone did that.  Although, it may force them to either reject you or actually consider you just to shut you up.

Do you suggest writing a letter or sending an email?
Title: Re: Does it mean anything when a firm asks for a transcript?
Post by: Jhuen_the_bird on July 28, 2008, 06:26:54 AM
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Title: Re: Does it mean anything when a firm asks for a transcript?
Post by: yykm on July 29, 2008, 08:18:21 AM
Semi-related question--if you apply to a firm (not through OCI) do they generally send rejection letters? Or is it like other fields where you just never hear back?
They should send rejection letters, though I've heard that some smaller firms don't necessarily send them out.  Regardless, you should keep a list of the firms to which you've applied and check back with them every 2 weeks until you hear a decision.

every 2 weeks?  Seems like they would be overwhelmed if everyone did that.  Although, it may force them to either reject you or actually consider you just to shut you up.

Do you suggest writing a letter or sending an email?
I stuck to email, though some firms may prefer paper.  Two weeks is the guideline my CSO gave me, but if a firm tells you that they'll get back to you in a month, wait that month before you contact them.  My CSO told me that staying in touch with the firm shows your interest, which you need to show sometimes when you're applying to firms outside of your school's region.  I remember a number of firms responding a few days after my first 2-week follow up email, though most with interest had contacted me before 2 weeks had passed.

Another good idea is to contact any alums at the firm a week after you send your application, which will get a few people pulling for you when your name gets tossed around.
Title: Re: Does it mean anything when a firm asks for a transcript?
Post by: LittleRussianPrincess, Esq. on July 29, 2008, 08:44:05 AM
Does it mean anything when a firm you've applied to asks for a transcript, or has my desperation driven me nuts?

I'm 3L at a top 20 school, in the middle of my class...I applied to a BigLaw firm a week ago and got an email today requesting a copy of my transcripts.

Does that mean they've seen the GPA on my resume and are still willing to consider me? Or is getting the transcript merely a meaningless formality?

I realize I could just wait for my rejection letter/email to come, but I'm desperate enough to ask what you guys think (I realize I am opening myself up to extreme abuse here, btw).



Don't read too much into it and send them the transcript. Most likely, no one here can answer your question unless they just happen to sit on the hiring committee of the firm in question.

Couple of questions, though, since I reinterviewed as a 3L and might have some tips for you.

1. Why are you reinterviewing?
2. Which markets and is your school a feeder into those markets?
3. Are you changing markets from your summer firm?
Title: Re: Does it mean anything when a firm asks for a transcript?
Post by: gubdowb83 on July 30, 2008, 04:33:39 PM
1. I'm reinterviewing because last year's OCI was an utter failure (got lots of interviews but no offers) so I ended up working for a federal agency instead of a firm.



2. The firm that asked for the transcript was in the San Francisco area. My school is in the DC area so it's not exactly a feeder school, but I have heard of quite a few classmates who received offers in that region.

3. My summer job was at a federal agency in DC.

In sum, my prospects are grim and I'm very hungry for a job.
Title: Re: Does it mean anything when a firm asks for a transcript?
Post by: LittleRussianPrincess, Esq. on July 31, 2008, 02:41:47 AM
1. I'm reinterviewing because last year's OCI was an utter failure (got lots of interviews but no offers) so I ended up working for a federal agency instead of a firm.



2. The firm that asked for the transcript was in the San Francisco area. My school is in the DC area so it's not exactly a feeder school, but I have heard of quite a few classmates who received offers in that region.

3. My summer job was at a federal agency in DC.

In sum, my prospects are grim and I'm very hungry for a job.

You're right; that could be tough. Have you spoken with the career services folks at your school?