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Title: Resume writing service - Ever use one?
Post by: TheDudeMan on June 29, 2008, 05:24:10 PM
Anyone ever use a service such as attorneyresume.com? Is it worth it?
Title: Re: Resume writing service - Ever use one?
Post by: TheDudeMan on June 30, 2008, 08:11:14 PM
Anybody?
Title: Re: Resume writing service - Ever use one?
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on June 30, 2008, 08:31:07 PM
I don't really see what they would do for me that I couldn't do myself.

This isn't brought about by a dislike for your summer firm, I hope.
Title: Re: Resume writing service - Ever use one?
Post by: TheDudeMan on July 01, 2008, 04:53:07 AM
I don't really see what they would do for me that I couldn't do myself.

This isn't brought about by a dislike for your summer firm, I hope.

No, not at all.  I love my summer firm.  Still have to do submit bids, though since offers don't go out until after the bid submission deadline, ya know?  I looked at the service mainly because I'm too busy to really mess with my resume and my career development office is booked solid due to upcoming fall recruitment.

Title: Re: Resume writing service - Ever use one?
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on July 02, 2008, 04:22:48 AM
I don't really see what they would do for me that I couldn't do myself.

This isn't brought about by a dislike for your summer firm, I hope.

No, not at all.  I love my summer firm.  Still have to do submit bids, though since offers don't go out until after the bid submission deadline, ya know?  I looked at the service mainly because I'm too busy to really mess with my resume and my career development office is booked solid due to upcoming fall recruitment.

I see.  Well good to hear that the summer firm's fine.
Title: Re: Resume writing service - Ever use one?
Post by: TheDudeMan on July 02, 2008, 06:14:22 PM
I think it is pretty rare for a summer associate not to have a good experience at a large firm.  They pay you market, they wine and dine you, and give you interesting assignments.
Title: Re: Resume writing service - Ever use one?
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on July 03, 2008, 04:15:21 AM
I think it is pretty rare for a summer associate not to have a good experience at a large firm.  They pay you market, they wine and dine you, and give you interesting assignments.

Well yes, hence the concern if you don't like the place.  I mean if you're not enjoying your summer, something has seriously gone wrong, right?
Title: Re: Resume writing service - Ever use one?
Post by: TheDudeMan on July 03, 2008, 05:02:54 AM
Yellow: I would say it may be possible to not like the firm, as anything is possible.  BUT, the reality is that a summer associate may or may not get a real look into the life of a firm associate.  You really are pampered all summer.  It's great, but it's also a bit of a game of "hide the ball."  I think the most important thing to do during the summer is see if you get along with the partners who will be assigning you work as an associate.  If you do, then you are set.
Title: Re: Resume writing service - Ever use one?
Post by: Resident CLS Troll on July 03, 2008, 03:49:58 PM
I think it's totally possible to not like the firm culture or not like particular people or the power structure within the firm.  I hope people are looking below the surface at least a little...

I'm just saying if even the surface looks unpleasant, that might be an indicator that things are really nasty below. 

I hope what I'm saying isn't unclear or controversial.  I thought it was pretty straightforward, no?
Title: Re: Resume writing service - Ever use one?
Post by: TheDudeMan on July 06, 2008, 01:49:32 PM
I don't know... I think people who aren't oblivious can find out a lot about the management of the firm, firm's overall health, the power structure, pay structure, and the firm culture without much effort.  I've worked in two very different firms this summer and feel like I've gotten a good sense of the positives/negatives of both. 

I get that it's not transparent and I understand that attorneys don't get to cut out for a day each week to go on field trips for their own amusement, but I think that someone who is a little intuitive/inquisitive/observant can find out a lot if they ask the right questions and know what they're looking for.

For example, although I may leave at 5:00 every day, it's worth hanging around until 8 or 9 some days to see who is there.  And I may not be in until 9, but I'll come in at 6 one morning to see who is already there...

Regardless of where you go, BIGLAW will have some late nights.  That is the nature of billable hours.
Title: Re: Resume writing service - Ever use one?
Post by: TheDudeMan on July 06, 2008, 07:28:39 PM
You live in a dream world.  Very few BIGLAW lawyers aren't battling with the billable hour.
Title: Re: Resume writing service - Ever use one?
Post by: TheDudeMan on July 07, 2008, 05:05:00 AM
Ok, your first mistake is stating that an 1800 billable requirement = working 7.2 a day and 1900 = 7.6 hours a day.  To bill those hours, you generally have to be in the office several hours longer because you are constantly doing things that are not billable.  Also, many firms have additionally hours they require for professional development that are on top of the billable requirement and can amount to several hundred or more.

Finally, you can't control when the work is in.  So if there is a slow month, and there always is at a law firm, then you have to play catch up.

So you say you are "going for secondary markets" and then say you are working at two BIGLAW firms this summer.  Are you a summer associate?

http://www.law.yale.edu/documents/pdf/CDO_Public/cdo-billable_hour.pdf

Check out that link as well. 
Title: Re: Resume writing service - Ever use one?
Post by: TheDudeMan on July 09, 2008, 04:58:10 AM
I'm confused.  You split your summers?  Or you are working part time at two firms?
Title: Re: Resume writing service - Ever use one?
Post by: TheDudeMan on July 11, 2008, 05:12:32 AM
Defensive much?  I was honestly just asking a question.  However, in answer to yours I also worked a firm gig and I am gainfully employed during the school year.