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Title: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: HippieLawChick on July 28, 2005, 09:51:25 AM
My SO's car got broken into last weekend (second time in a month), so I went around my block to tell our neighbors to keep an eye out for suspicious activity. 

I was telling this old guy about the break ins, and he responded with, "well, there's a colored family a block over, why don't you talk to them"  I was so shocked, all I could say was, "why would you say something like that..you don't know those people" and walked away.

Then yesterday, he yelled from his front porch to another neighbor, "did you hear that those colored folks broke into another car last night?"

I want to confront this racist **&)@#, but I want to do it in such a way so that he will truly understand how backward and logically wrong his bigoted assumption is.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: twarga on July 28, 2005, 09:55:54 AM
You can always say, "Hey, my friend twarga's nephew is as white as the driven snow and has been in and out of prison since he was 14 for theft and drug dealing.  It's probably him."  Oh wait, he's in jail in Michigan right now.   :-\
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: HippieLawChick on July 28, 2005, 09:57:58 AM
ha!

I really don't get why this guy would even think to say something like that.  WTF is up with that?
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: twarga on July 28, 2005, 10:00:33 AM
ha!

I really don't get why this guy would even think to say something like that.  WTF is up with that?

It makes him feel secure knowing that only certain people do bad things and that he has the power to spot them from a distance.  He's a racist old man... they're a dime a dozen.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: DodgerLaw on July 28, 2005, 10:10:52 AM
Just ignore him. He's had a long time to become set in his ways. His ideas, not unlike himself, are slowly dying.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: angelus on July 28, 2005, 10:16:56 AM
ha!

I really don't get why this guy would even think to say something like that.  WTF is up with that?

old prejudices die hard. The u.s. was still heavily racist in the 1950's and 60's. that's only 50 years or so....no time at all really.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: blk_reign on July 28, 2005, 10:21:08 AM
you can't teach an old dog new tricks :-\ .. just continue to live your life with an open mind... and raise your children the same way...
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: Julie Fern on July 28, 2005, 10:30:07 AM
what relief.  when julie saw thread title, she figured this be about her.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: Abevigoda on July 28, 2005, 10:31:14 AM
Are you the rascist old man?
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: Julie Fern on July 28, 2005, 10:47:53 AM
that hurt.  that really hurt.  no more barney miller for you.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: Abevigoda on July 28, 2005, 10:48:34 AM
What???   

NNNNNOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: Julie Fern on July 28, 2005, 10:49:48 AM
then take it back.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: DodgerLaw on July 28, 2005, 10:53:07 AM
Do it, Abe. Or you'll have to go downstairs and watch "Litte House on the Prairie" with your sisters.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: LegalLassie on July 28, 2005, 10:54:06 AM
I had something similar happen once.  When I was about thirteen, my cat disappeared and so I went door to door in my neighborhood.  One of the houses was this little old seemingly innocent white woman.  She told me "The ni---rs probably took your cat."  WTF!  I just remember standing there with a stunned expression on my face.  Kind of an eye opener because sometimes you get complacent and start thinking "there isn't as much racism today" or "people are more enlightened/intelligent today".  HA!  The worst part is a lot of times it comes from people you would not expect to hear it from.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: Abevigoda on July 28, 2005, 10:54:47 AM
Julie is not an old man, sorry.  What are you then?
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: Julie Fern on July 28, 2005, 11:06:37 AM
young, vibrant, and oh-so-exciting woman.  hear julie roar.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: Julie Fern on July 28, 2005, 11:08:07 AM
I had something similar happen once.  When I was about thirteen, my cat disappeared and so I went door to door in my neighborhood.  One of the houses was this little old seemingly innocent white woman.  She told me "The ni---rs probably took your cat."  WTF!  I just remember standing there with a stunned expression on my face.  Kind of an eye opener because sometimes you get complacent and start thinking "there isn't as much racism today" or "people are more enlightened/intelligent today".  HA!  The worst part is a lot of times it comes from people you would not expect to hear it from.

and it come and go so quickly that you may not realize what really said until later.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: BigMix on July 28, 2005, 11:10:54 AM


I was telling this old guy about the break ins, and he responded with, "well, there's a colored family a block over, why don't you talk to them"  I was so shocked, all I could say was, "why would you say something like that..you don't know those people" and walked away.

I actually find that funny. I don't know, but old men saying stupid things kinda cracks me up. I guess I'm too sardonic on these issues. Pity instead of anger is what I give to people like that. They don't deserve anger.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: LegalLassie on July 28, 2005, 11:11:04 AM
I had something similar happen once.  When I was about thirteen, my cat disappeared and so I went door to door in my neighborhood.  One of the houses was this little old seemingly innocent white woman.  She told me "The ni---rs probably took your cat."  WTF!  I just remember standing there with a stunned expression on my face.  Kind of an eye opener because sometimes you get complacent and start thinking "there isn't as much racism today" or "people are more enlightened/intelligent today".  HA!  The worst part is a lot of times it comes from people you would not expect to hear it from.

and it come and go so quickly that you may not realize what really said until later.

Very true.  Sometimes, Julie, I think your brain cloud isn't as bad as you make it out to be.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: LegalLassie on July 28, 2005, 11:13:54 AM


I was telling this old guy about the break ins, and he responded with, "well, there's a colored family a block over, why don't you talk to them"  I was so shocked, all I could say was, "why would you say something like that..you don't know those people" and walked away.

I actually find that funny. I don't know, but old men saying stupid things kinda cracks me up. I guess I'm too sardonic on these issues. Pity instead of anger is what I give to people like that. They don't deserve anger.

I agree that it can be funny.  I remember Margaret Cho in one of her comedy shows telling about how she was walking a dog in San Francisco and suddenly a homeless guy ducks out from an alley and yells really loud: "That dogs gonna end up in a pot of rice!"  That was hilarious.

BUT, it ceases to be funny if it hurts someone or makes someone uncomfortable in their environment and I think what happened to Hippie does these things.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: dbgirl on July 28, 2005, 11:15:32 AM
A lot of the bad seeds I have known were innocent looking blondes.
I had a blonde friend who would just shoplift like crazy and no one ever suspected her of squat.
And my blonde ex-boyfriend was always up to something illegal or immoral, and the cops rarely bothered him. He used to joke that he kept his black friend around him so that if the cops came, they would find the drugs on the black guy (in retrospect, that wasn't funny  >:()
Nonetheless, stereotypes persist ...
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: BigMix on July 28, 2005, 11:17:26 AM
fully agree there Legalassie. words can cut like a knife. saying something stupid, ignorant and obnoxious can put a damper on a whole day for someone in addition to the countless other effects.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: LegalLassie on July 28, 2005, 11:19:40 AM
My mother is blonde and so is one of my best friends, and they are both wonderful people.  But most blondes I have known were not...So, I guess I am guilty of stereotyping people too. 
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: DodgerLaw on July 28, 2005, 11:21:35 AM
My mother is blonde and so is one of my best friends, and they are both wonderful people.  But most blondes I have known were not...So, I guess I am guilty of stereotyping people too. 

You blondist b!tch.  ;)
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: LegalLassie on July 28, 2005, 11:22:48 AM
My mother is blonde and so is one of my best friends, and they are both wonderful people.  But most blondes I have known were not...So, I guess I am guilty of stereotyping people too. 

You blondist b!tch.  ;)

Guilty!  Oh, i forgot Court!  She is a good blonde.  Still, I prefer people with pigment.  Sorry!
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: dbgirl on July 28, 2005, 11:23:32 AM
Royal ... Lassie doesn't hate blondes "some of her best friend are blondes."  ;)

Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: twarga on July 28, 2005, 11:24:29 AM
My sister used the N-word around my daughter several years ago when she was just a toddler.  I told her, "Look, we don't talk like that at my house.  Furthermore, if my kid repeats what you said and I get pulled into my commander's office (we're AF), I will personally kick your @ss."  That was 10 years ago and she hasn't used it in front of me since.  Sometimes you just have to call people on their bad behavior.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: LegalLassie on July 28, 2005, 11:36:37 AM
Royal ... Lassie doesn't hate blondes "some of her best friend are blondes."  ;)



Yes!  That's right.  I forgot that is what I am suppose to say: "I am not a blondist.  Some of my best friends are blondes!"  :D
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: LegalLassie on July 28, 2005, 11:40:33 AM
My sister used the N-word around my daughter several years ago when she was just a toddler.  I told her, "Look, we don't talk like that at my house.  Furthermore, if my kid repeats what you said and I get pulled into my commander's office (we're AF), I will personally kick your @ss."  That was 10 years ago and she hasn't used it in front of me since.  Sometimes you just have to call people on their bad behavior.

Things like this are crummy to have to deal with.  It is hard because I am very on board with freedom of speech and don't believe that anyone has a right to censor someone else, but at the same time words have such a huge capacity to hurt people and make people feel alienated.  I am 30 and I can still remember things people said to me when I was in elementary school that made me feel like I was not part of the group, like I was different in a bad way.  This is why I think a lot of negative stereotyping sh_t should not be tolerated and when people say it you have to get right in there face about it.  Good job Twarga!
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: HippieLawChick on July 28, 2005, 11:52:34 AM
You know what it really is?  I really felt helpless already from the break in, and even more so when I realized that there is not only theft in my 'hood, but this weirdo who probably is thinking some of my friends are criminals just because of how they look. 

I felt like I should be able to do/say something to get hi to understand that he was offending me, but I failed miserably. 

Maybe what I should do is have another "neighborhood trash clean up day" and only invite those I know who are: dreadlocked hippies, black, hispanic, asian or are in any way different from whitey over there.  While he is outside staring at all of them, I will bust into his house, take his TV and DVD player, sell them and donate the money to the NAACP!  That would get him!   (just kidding of course, but it's nice to fantasize about)
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: _BP_ on July 28, 2005, 01:22:44 PM
This was actually an interesting thread.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: cali444 on July 28, 2005, 02:02:12 PM
Maybe what I should do is have another "neighborhood trash clean up day" and only invite those I know who are: dreadlocked hippies, black, hispanic, asian or are in any way different from whitey over there.  While he is outside staring at all of them, I will bust into his house, take his TV and DVD player, sell them and donate the money to the NAACP!  That would get him!   (just kidding of course, but it's nice to fantasize about)

Lol.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: Julie Fern on July 28, 2005, 04:47:03 PM
I had something similar happen once.  When I was about thirteen, my cat disappeared and so I went door to door in my neighborhood.  One of the houses was this little old seemingly innocent white woman.  She told me "The ni---rs probably took your cat."  WTF!  I just remember standing there with a stunned expression on my face.  Kind of an eye opener because sometimes you get complacent and start thinking "there isn't as much racism today" or "people are more enlightened/intelligent today".  HA!  The worst part is a lot of times it comes from people you would not expect to hear it from.

and it come and go so quickly that you may not realize what really said until later.

Very true.  Sometimes, Julie, I think your brain cloud isn't as bad as you make it out to be.

thank you.  julie sharp as tack, as brain cloud affect only grammar.  julie know grammar well, but it not come our right--sort of like someone who can't walk but who understand it nonetheless.  anyway, it really, really piss off her enemies, who hate her for her nonsubmissive politics (and, sometimes, her beauty).  great fun!

you very pretty lately.  that facial did you world of good.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: Julie Fern on July 28, 2005, 04:49:13 PM
Royal ... Lassie doesn't hate blondes "some of her best friend are blondes."  ;)



Yes! That's right. I forgot that is what I am suppose to say: "I am not a blondist. Some of my best friends are blondes!" :D

hey, why did blonde have square boobs?
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: Julie Fern on July 28, 2005, 04:49:44 PM
she forgot to take tissues out of box.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: LegalLassie on July 28, 2005, 05:25:30 PM
I had something similar happen once.  When I was about thirteen, my cat disappeared and so I went door to door in my neighborhood.  One of the houses was this little old seemingly innocent white woman.  She told me "The ni---rs probably took your cat."  WTF!  I just remember standing there with a stunned expression on my face.  Kind of an eye opener because sometimes you get complacent and start thinking "there isn't as much racism today" or "people are more enlightened/intelligent today".  HA!  The worst part is a lot of times it comes from people you would not expect to hear it from.

and it come and go so quickly that you may not realize what really said until later.

Very true.  Sometimes, Julie, I think your brain cloud isn't as bad as you make it out to be.

thank you.  julie sharp as tack, as brain cloud affect only grammar.  julie know grammar well, but it not come our right--sort of like someone who can't walk but who understand it nonetheless.  anyway, it really, really piss off her enemies, who hate her for her nonsubmissive politics (and, sometimes, her beauty).  great fun!

you very pretty lately.  that facial did you world of good.

Thank you!  Nonsubmissive politics combined with beauty, eh?  I think we might have a lot in common  ;)
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: Julie Fern on July 28, 2005, 05:53:34 PM
too bad we not lesbians.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: Julie Fern on July 28, 2005, 05:54:11 PM
bp, still with us, man?
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: LaneSwerver on July 28, 2005, 06:02:17 PM
too bad we not lesbians.

You don't have to be.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: LegalLassie on July 28, 2005, 06:14:09 PM
too bad we not lesbians.

Can two people who are nonsubmissive be lesbians? 
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: LaneSwerver on July 28, 2005, 06:16:51 PM
too bad we not lesbians.

Can two people who are nonsubmissive be lesbians? 

Sure.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: HippieLawChick on July 28, 2005, 09:59:11 PM
Go hijack another thread!  Now git you varmits!
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: Julie Fern on July 29, 2005, 06:04:35 AM
too bad we not lesbians.

You don't have to be.

that big relief.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: Julie Fern on July 29, 2005, 06:07:37 AM
too bad we not lesbians.

Can two people who are nonsubmissive be lesbians?

guess they'd have to submit to each other.  there's probably also lord-and-vassal thang going on with some couples--just like some hetero or all-male couples, suppose.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: Julie Fern on July 29, 2005, 06:09:05 AM
Go hijack another thread! Now git you varmits!

hey, you could talk to your freak about lesbians!  that'd throw him off real good.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: LaneSwerver on July 29, 2005, 10:08:28 AM
Go hijack another thread!  Now git you varmits!

I can hijack many at once...and this one seems so interesting what with the lesbians and all.
Title: Re: What the heck do I say to this freak?
Post by: pop_tort on July 30, 2005, 11:47:05 AM
I had something similar happen once.  When I was about thirteen, my cat disappeared and so I went door to door in my neighborhood.  One of the houses was this little old seemingly innocent white woman.  She told me "The ni---rs probably took your cat."  WTF!  I just remember standing there with a stunned expression on my face.  Kind of an eye opener because sometimes you get complacent and start thinking "there isn't as much racism today" or "people are more enlightened/intelligent today".  HA!  The worst part is a lot of times it comes from people you would not expect to hear it from.

Right, but you have people on this site who insist that racism is over and affirmative action is pointless and we're all one big color blind society. Sure maybe a good amount of our generation aren't as ignorant as this old lady or HippieLawChick's dude, but the fact still remains that a large amount of people in this country still hold these attitudes....