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Title: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ScurvyWench on July 27, 2005, 12:09:25 PM
In the news. . .

Pregnant Philadelphia mother of one missing
Last seen on July 18; reward offered

Wednesday, July 27, 2005; Posted: 1:58 p.m. EDT (17:58 GMT)

PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- The Philadelphia Citizens Crime Commission, with the help of a Philadelphia blogger, have launched a reward fund for information leading to Latoyia Figueroa, a 24-year-old pregnant mother of one who has been missing since July 18.


Figueroa went to a doctor's appointment with a male friend on that afternoon, police said, but did not show up to retrieve her 7-year-old daughter from day care later that day.

Stephanie Stephenson, a relative who raised Figueroa after her mother was killed when she was a toddler, told CNN that Figueroa, five months pregnant, left the friend's house in west Philadelphia "and disappeared."

Her cell phone -- a constant companion -- has gone quiet for the nine days she has been missing, and her bank has recorded no transactions.

"The Philadelphia police and the detectives are involved now, and they're making this their priority case," Stephenson said, adding that the very close family was bearing the strain "as well as can be expected."

"Her mother was my first cousin," she said. "We were raised together as sisters. ... We're holding up by the grace of God."

Philadelphia Police Lt. Frank Vanore said authorities have no suspects in custody.

"We're trying to interview everybody that she knew, but as far as leads or evidence found to show us something might have happened -- no," Vanore said.

Vanore said Figueroa was a victim of robbery in April, but police believe that was an isolated incident unrelated to her disappearance.

Santo Montecalvo, vice president of the Philadelphia Citizens Crime Commission, said the commission's reward fund had reached $10,000 Wednesday morning. And Richard Blair of Philadelphia has launched a drive for the reward fund through his blog, allspinzone.com.

"The Citizens Crime Commission does not have a way to make a donation online so we've taken up that task," he said.

Blair said he has been covering this story on his site because he does not think it has gotten the publicity it deserves.

"I just didn't feel that this story had been given any publicity -- young, black woman out of the ghetto. ... I want them to know that there's people out there thinking about them," he said.

Blair said he hopes fellow bloggers will not see this as a political issue, but will come together to increase publicity and donate to the reward fund.

"In a situation like this where you have a network of blogs working together, there's not politics to this story. This could happen to anyone of us," he said.

Meanwhile, family and friends have been searching a park near where she disappeared and passing out flyers with the diminutive, 5-foot-2 Figueroa's picture.

Anyone with information is asked to call the Philadelphia Southwest detective division at 215-686-3183.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/07/27/Philadelphia.missing/index.html
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ScurvyWench on July 27, 2005, 12:20:30 PM
C'mon. Let's discuss this outside of the BLSD thread. . .
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: j.rosh on August 03, 2005, 07:48:38 PM
I was flipping channels a minute ago and her story was being discussed on the Fox News Channel.  They still haven't found her.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: _BP_ on August 03, 2005, 07:56:20 PM
You know I had to chime in on this one.  The media was shamed into covering this girl.  After the spate of white females and the internet buzz about only white girls being covered you would have thought that they would have jumped all over this story.  Alas they didn't, it took a blogger in Philadelphia to organize other bloggers to talk about why her story wasn't covered.  Two weeks later, the media is all over this, and they have full search parties etc. 

Hey, I'm glad the attention is there don't get me wrong, but I still have a big F*ck You for the media.  Dbgirl, I'm sure you're about to chime in about how great the media is.  Go right ahead.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: dbgirl on August 03, 2005, 08:03:57 PM
Well BP I just don't like to see people slam the media as a whole.
The media is capable of doing some very good things. I know that I  personally have exposed a lot of people who did terrible things and made a real difference. At its best, that's what the media does.
Yes, there are definitely problems with what the big news channels  (and even some local newspapers) find important. But most journalist are good people!

Anyway BP I actually agree that CNN et. al responded to pressure on this story.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: j.rosh on August 03, 2005, 08:49:23 PM
No doubt.  The only reason why I know of this story was because it was posted here.  It really surprised me tonight when I flipped  past Fox and saw the big Missing Alert with a black female on it.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: dbgirl on August 03, 2005, 11:34:05 PM
I'm waiting for Vinny to come along and ask us why we only care about missing black people. After all, Natalee Holloway is missing too!
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: Made4law on August 04, 2005, 09:51:45 AM
I'm waiting for Vinny to come along and ask us why we only care about missing black people. After all, Natalee Holloway is missing too!

WHAT THEE NATALIE HOLLOWAY IS MISSING!!! I would have never known. They rarely even mention her on Nancy Grace ???  They should post a reward or at least drain Lake Michigan, do something people!

They haven't mention that pregnant black girl again...Just wanted to bump this....
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: dbgirl on August 04, 2005, 12:33:47 PM
Don't worry Made4Law Nancy Grace has the Holloway story covered.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: mivida2k on August 05, 2005, 08:04:11 PM
Dateline's doing a story about how the media always covers white missing females.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: J D on August 06, 2005, 09:50:43 AM
Does anyone else reflexively cringe every time they hear Nancy Grace butcher this poor women's name?  You know: "Latoyia Figuero-HA."  *Shudder*  ¡Por Dios!, ¿qué gringa?
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: Intuition on August 06, 2005, 10:00:36 AM
Dateline's doing a story about how the media always covers white missing females.

Are there other possible reasons besides racism that would lead to the current discrepency in levels of news coverage?
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: dbgirl on August 07, 2005, 02:38:30 AM
Intuition -- I think money plays a big role in whose dissappearance gets covered.

And for those who hate on Nancy -- I have to say I met her (sort of, we covered the same trial together) and I think she is a decent chick, very nice to her fans.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: Lawprofessor on August 09, 2005, 07:20:10 PM
Have you ever met a media person you didnt like???
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 10, 2005, 06:59:48 AM
Hey, I agree that the Holloway story is getting too much coverage. Her family needs to get over it, and realize that she was  alone on an idland known for having these things happen.
I think that there are places where missing black kids are talked about in the news. Gary, IN is definately a place that ocmes to mind. We get news from Chicago, and there are always black people on the news. What's wrong with that?
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: hammer101 on August 10, 2005, 03:06:08 PM
Don't worry Made4Law Nancy Grace has the Holloway story covered.

And it seems Greta Van Susteren has relocated to Aruba. So ridiculous, considering Americans disappear in the Caribbean all the time....

Even Joe Scarborough has gotten caught up in the Holloway garbage. Whether you agree with him or not, at least he used to discuss real issues... :-\
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: dbgirl on August 10, 2005, 06:55:31 PM
Hey LP -- I've met LOTS of media people I didn't like.
But most media people are wonderful friendly people like me  :)
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: Lawprofessor on August 12, 2005, 05:56:13 PM
Well, you are a nice person and I like you, but a lot of the talking heads on these news shows act like there is a problem with everything else and EVERYONE should be interested in these stories.  I was watching Nancy Grace the other night and she was upset becuase one of the suspects would not help the mother to find her daughter.  Her position is just completely stupid.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: J D on August 12, 2005, 06:07:47 PM
Well, you are a nice person and I like you, but a lot of the talking heads on these news shows act like there is a problem with everything else and EVERYONE should be interested in these stories.  I was watching Nancy Grace the other night and she was upset becuase one of the suspects would not help the mother to find her daughter.  Her position is just completely stupid.

I just love the fake outrage.  Like how everyone is shocked--shocked!--that Paulus Van der Sloot is advising his son and the two brothers to keep their yaps shut.  Puh-leeze!  There's nothing criminal, or even suspicious, about that: that's called "giving good legal advice."  When the police bring you into the station for questioning, it's always in your best interest to SHUT THE FVCK UP!  You'd think someone with a frellin' LAW DEGREE and experience as a PROSECUTOR would know that.  ::)
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: dbgirl on August 12, 2005, 09:26:14 PM
Yeah, that's one thing I learned from watching trials -- NEVER ADMIT ANYTHING.

I have seen so many people get convicted because they try to excuse their way out of the crime. "Yeah, well I didn't actually shoot the guy, I just drove the car while my friend shot the guy."

Yeah, when I get my job on Court TV I'm not going to be surprised when people won't admit what they did.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: J D on August 12, 2005, 09:39:07 PM
And there might be people who didn't do it, who might think "Oh, well, this is all a big misunderstanding!  If I just sit down and explain everything to these nice officers, everything will be cleared up."  That's a pretty big risk, one that a smarter person probably wouldn't take.  If the police have brought you down to the station for questioning, and have you in a back room with a one-way glass, that's a pretty good sign that their investigation has begun to focus on you as a suspect (perhaps the prime suspect), any and all police denials of this notwithstanding.  At this point, they are likely seeking to do their best to hang you with your own words, rather than "find out the truth" (in their minds, the two might very well appear to be the same thing).  You know that part of the Miranda warning that says anything you say can and will be used against you in a criminal proceeding?  They mean it!  So, if you find yourself called down for questioning at the station, the smart thing to do is to shut up.  Say nothing, except for "I want a lawyer."  Then shut up until the lawyer gets there and you can talk and listen to his (or her) advice.  Then, and only then, should you even think about talking to the police: with your lawyer at your side.  Ain't nothing criminal or suspicious about that.  It's called cover your @$$.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: _BP_ on August 12, 2005, 09:50:38 PM
That is soo true JD.  The cops aren't thinking "let me ask this guy a few questions so we clear this up and have him on his way as soon as possible"...haha rather they're thinking "let me see how I can trap this dude into a lie that could land him upstate for the rest of his life".  So a smart man keeps his mouths shut til his lawyer shows up..
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: Lawprofessor on August 12, 2005, 11:38:37 PM
Well, you are a nice person and I like you, but a lot of the talking heads on these news shows act like there is a problem with everything else and EVERYONE should be interested in these stories.  I was watching Nancy Grace the other night and she was upset becuase one of the suspects would not help the mother to find her daughter.  Her position is just completely stupid.

I just love the fake outrage.  Like how everyone is shocked--shocked!--that Paulus Van der Sloot is advising his son and the two brothers to keep their yaps shut.  Puh-leeze!  There's nothing criminal, or even suspicious, about that: that's called "giving good legal advice."  When the police bring you into the station for questioning, it's always in your best interest to SHUT THE FVCK UP!  You'd think someone with a frellin' LAW DEGREE and experience as a PROSECUTOR would know that.  ::)

You are right and that is the problem I have, the fake outrage.  Whether the person did it or not, are they really going to tell the mother where they put her daughter??  But Nancy Grace thinks that if these people were DECENT, they would talk and tell this mother where her daughter is.  What horrible people they are to not want to talk to her and then my God, to go to the police and seek a restraining order against her coming into their place of business to bother them.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 15, 2005, 05:49:16 AM
Well, first of all, these people shouldn't be committing crimes. And second of all, if they commit the crime, they better well be ready for the consequences.
THis is why I won't be a defense attorney, I CANNOT defend a guilty person, I'd rather put them IN jail then keep them out.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 15, 2005, 06:26:45 AM
Man leads police to skeletal remains of Tamika Huston
Date: Sunday, August 14, 2005
By: The Associated Press, APonline

A convicted bank robber led police to a set of skeletal remains believed to be those of Tamika Huston, a woman he once dated who had been missing for over a year.
Authorities hope to have the remains identified in the coming week.

Christopher Lamont Hampton, 25, was charged with murder in Huston's June 2004 disappearance. He had been scheduled for release Friday from an Edgefield county prison after serving three months for violating probation stemming from a bank robbery conviction, but he was taken into custody instead.

New forensic evidence linked Hampton to Huston's disappearance, Spartanburg Public Safety Director Tony Fisher said. He would not release details, but he said the evidence was in addition to blood police found at Hampton's former apartment.

Huston was recently spotlighted in a "Dateline NBC" report about the disappearances of attractive white women getting more media coverage than the disappearances of men or minorities.

Huston was black, and her aunt, a public relations representative, told NBC she tried for months without success to get the national networks to publicize her niece's story.

"For our family, this day brings us both tremendous sadness and some sense of relief," Huston's relatives said in a statement released after police announced the discovery of the remains Friday. "While trying to come to terms with the fact that our Tamika will not return to us, we find comfort in knowing the person responsible for this most personal tragedy is being brought to justice."

Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: j.rosh on August 15, 2005, 06:34:48 AM
I saw that on MSNBC yesterday morning. Tamika Huston's story was in the July issue of Essence magazine along with other missing black women. 
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 15, 2005, 06:58:58 AM
What's o important about getting any crime on tv anyways? I undersstand if someone has JUST gone missing. But they have missing person things in the mailbox everyday. DO you think for one second anybody actually pays attentino to those, let alone seeing it on the news? People just change the channel, or it's the last thing on the news. This Aruba thing was probably only cause that family is rich or something anyways.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 15, 2005, 07:03:42 AM
I pay attention...

What's o important about getting any crime on tv anyways? I undersstand if someone has JUST gone missing. But they have missing person things in the mailbox everyday. DO you think for one second anybody actually pays attentino to those, let alone seeing it on the news? People just change the channel, or it's the last thing on the news. This Aruba thing was probably only cause that family is rich or something anyways.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: j.rosh on August 15, 2005, 07:08:09 AM
The man arrested for her murder is the same guy they suspected for awhile. According to Essence, there were keys found after she went missing that led to an apartment; the man renting the apartment had apparently rented a steam cleaner days before he moved out of the apartment.  He was in jail serving time  for parole violation.
No one in her family ever met this man or knew his name before he became a suspect.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 15, 2005, 07:09:15 AM
in fact Vinny.... if someone in your family or if you ended up missing wouldn't you want the media involved in the search??

or do you feel like hey.. just another crime.. next channel..

we need to value human life more than we do...
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: _BP_ on August 15, 2005, 07:14:07 AM
Me too.

I pay attention...

What's o important about getting any crime on tv anyways? I undersstand if someone has JUST gone missing. But they have missing person things in the mailbox everyday. DO you think for one second anybody actually pays attentino to those, let alone seeing it on the news? People just change the channel, or it's the last thing on the news. This Aruba thing was probably only cause that family is rich or something anyways.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 15, 2005, 07:17:46 AM
in fact Vinny.... if someone in your family or if you ended up missing wouldn't you want the media involved in the search??

or do you feel like hey.. just another crime.. next channel..

we need to value human life more than we do...


For your information, I actually WAS kidnapped when I was younger, by my family from Greece, they wanted me to go back to Greece with them, but the police had headed them off at the airport. Which was good I guess, but it didn't need to be in the news, and was not.
I think some people feel that their missing family member isn't important enough if they aren't on tv, but that just isn't the case.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 15, 2005, 07:29:20 AM
well luckily for u Vinny  people were tipped off at the airport..however most missing person's situations aren't that easily resolved...

i guarantee you that if you had been missing for an extended period of time.. someone would have contacted the local news and your photo would have been broadcasted..

Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 15, 2005, 07:30:47 AM
I highly doubt that. How would they find me in Greece? It never would have happened that way. The only way that they knew he was headed to the airport is because he tried it before and unfortunately still tries, to no avail of course.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: _BP_ on August 15, 2005, 07:32:56 AM
Blk, it's futile :D
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 15, 2005, 07:44:29 AM
it's a hypothetical Vinny... ::)

but the Greece police could have become involved as well..or are you just saying that your adoptive family would have given up once you got on the plane?



I highly doubt that. How would they find me in Greece? It never would have happened that way. The only way that they knew he was headed to the airport is because he tried it before and unfortunately still tries, to no avail of course.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 15, 2005, 09:55:50 AM
They would have given up, beacuse they could care less. But that doesn't matter to the discussion anyways.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 15, 2005, 10:09:13 AM
so they adopted you and wouldn't care about your disappearance? wow


They would have given up, beacuse they could care less. But that doesn't matter to the discussion anyways.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 15, 2005, 10:11:11 AM
It's a long story.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 15, 2005, 10:12:04 AM
well.. you opened that door...

It's a long story.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 15, 2005, 10:15:24 AM
ANd now am closing it.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 15, 2005, 10:21:35 AM
cute..that was your time to shine.... but being unwanted and unloved does show some insight on why u are as you are...

ANd now am closing it.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: lex19 on August 15, 2005, 10:23:28 AM
rofl, really i am

well.. you opened that door...

It's a long story.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 15, 2005, 10:40:00 AM
How would that be my time to shine?
My family is REALLY messed up and all you guys would just want ot make fun of me because of it, so why should I allow myself to be made fun of?
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 15, 2005, 10:42:24 AM
last time i checked blsd was a community.. i don't remember anyone on this board making fun of anyone's hardships so what are u talking about? we have all been very supportive of one another on here..

so who's making fun of you?

How would that be my time to shine?
My family is REALLY messed up and all you guys would just want ot make fun of me because of it, so why should I allow myself to be made fun of?
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: lex19 on August 15, 2005, 10:44:21 AM
just tellin it as we see it, right blk?

last time i checked blsd was a community.. i don't remember anyone on this board making fun of anyone's hardships so what are u talking about? we have all been very supportive of one another on here..

so who's making fun of you?

How would that be my time to shine?
My family is REALLY messed up and all you guys would just want ot make fun of me because of it, so why should I allow myself to be made fun of?
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 15, 2005, 10:47:07 AM
right
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 15, 2005, 01:02:41 PM
Fine, my original parents wanted nothing to do with me, then my new parents didn't either and everyone left me, ok? That's what it's about...
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 15, 2005, 01:06:28 PM
so how do you deal with that?

Fine, my original parents wanted nothing to do with me, then my new parents didn't either and everyone left me, ok? That's what it's about...
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 15, 2005, 01:10:12 PM
I forget about it, think, whatever, thier loss. I've turned out better than if I would have stayed with the original ones anyways, because my younger brother is with her, and he's actually been in jail since he was 11 (he stole a car, and stupid got into an accident to get caught)
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 15, 2005, 01:20:40 PM
so would you use your hardships in your personal statement for law school to talk about how you've overcome adversity to rise to where you are standing today?
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 15, 2005, 01:22:10 PM
Well, all I did was mention my mom and dad not graduating high school, but nothing else, I don't really want to get into it with the adcomms thinking I just want to tell a sob story or anything.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 15, 2005, 01:23:43 PM
how is overcoming a hardship a sob story?

Well, all I did was mention my mom and dad not graduating high school, but nothing else, I don't really want to get into it with the adcomms thinking I just want to tell a sob story or anything.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 15, 2005, 01:24:28 PM
It would probably be seen as that, I don't think they'd really care, I'm sure they have many people with that, and others that had it worse.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: lex19 on August 15, 2005, 01:25:31 PM
you are a sob story vinny, a tear drops everytime you post ignorant sh*t like below


Well, all I did was mention my mom and dad not graduating high school, but nothing else, I don't really want to get into it with the adcomms thinking I just want to tell a sob story or anything.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 15, 2005, 01:26:42 PM
How is that ignorant? It is true!
See, I said it was a sob story, nobody wants to hear about that.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 15, 2005, 01:31:01 PM
they don't care..however you should have the ability to flip your situation and make it work for you....

Well, all I did was mention my mom and dad not graduating high school, but nothing else, I don't really want to get into it with the adcomms thinking I just want to tell a sob story or anything.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 15, 2005, 01:32:03 PM
But that wouldn't be right.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 15, 2005, 01:33:00 PM
explain? how is overcoming adversity not right?

But that wouldn't be right.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 15, 2005, 02:00:07 PM
Just telling my story doesn't show adversity, I didn't listen to them, so how does that matter? I didn't let it phase me when my mom refused to drive me to school, I just got up the hour earlier in order to take the city bus, and paid my buck when she accused me of stealing hers instead of using it for the fare.
How do I spin any of that to sound good?
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: lex19 on August 15, 2005, 02:11:00 PM
vinny you really leave yourself open or maybe you're just trying to get a fight out of people and setting things up...legallassie was correct, whatever it may be i'm finished, done, through with you like BP..peace
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: Lawprofessor on August 15, 2005, 10:44:22 PM
Hey Vinny,

How is overcomming tremendous obsticals just a "sob story?"  The fact that you dont see that you have overcome so much to get where you are today says something.  Part of what I see is that your past has caused you to be closed off and a little cold.  I suspect it comes from not wanting to get hurt.  There is nothing wrong with telling your story to assist you in reaching your goals.  Be proud of who you are and where you came from and especially all that you had to endure to make it to where you are now.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 16, 2005, 06:44:19 AM
Thanks for the comments LP.
I am not trying to start something, I just feel that if I don't want people to be able to take advantage of AA then I shouldn't take advantage of my situation, and I know that's what someo of you were thinking.
I would feel bad about it, sounding liek a hippocrite?
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: j.rosh on August 16, 2005, 06:58:55 AM
Thanks for the comments LP.
I am not trying to start something, I just feel that if I don't want people to be able to take advantage of AA then I shouldn't take advantage of my situation, and I know that's what someo of you were thinking.
I would feel bad about it, sounding liek a hippocrite?

 ???...You may want to read LP and Blk's responses again and let it soak through.
By the way, I wasn't thinking that at all
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 16, 2005, 07:05:24 AM
No not you, I was talking about what lex said.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: j.rosh on August 16, 2005, 07:13:05 AM
Here's an echo of earlier statements:
You have a story to tell-use it.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 16, 2005, 07:15:44 AM
I guess so. Would that be what goes into a diversity statement? (I know a stupid question) are there any cites that have examples of diversity statements? Or anyone can let me read theirs just to see?
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: j.rosh on August 16, 2005, 07:21:59 AM
I haven't started yet.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 16, 2005, 07:31:49 AM
what does overcoming adversity have to do with being diverse? or minority? it's a personal statement.. that's it..that's all...




I guess so. Would that be what goes into a diversity statement? (I know a stupid question) are there any cites that have examples of diversity statements? Or anyone can let me read theirs just to see?
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 16, 2005, 07:41:15 AM
So what does it mean to be diverse then?
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 16, 2005, 07:48:52 AM
no two people are alike right?


So what does it mean to be diverse then?
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 16, 2005, 07:50:34 AM
So then why would my story not add to diversity? I am adopted, isn't that diversity, I have viewpoint from a person that wasn't originally wanted (I was supposed to be aborted, but real mom couldn't go through with it) as opposed to that of someone who was wanted whole life, loved, etc.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 16, 2005, 07:54:08 AM
some people are misguided and use the word diversity (in reference to addendums) when referring to minorities.. i thought that you were one of those people...

my bad...

So then why would my story not add to diversity? I am adopted, isn't that diversity, I have viewpoint from a person that wasn't originally wanted (I was supposed to be aborted, but real mom couldn't go through with it) as opposed to that of someone who was wanted whole life, loved, etc.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 16, 2005, 07:59:26 AM
Oh, no that's all right.

I want to apologize for all the bad comments I made to you. I realized that I am just mad that I get treated so bad all the time, because people think I am minority too, whether it is hispanic or native american, and I just didn't think it was fair that you guys have a voice and actually black, whereas I am not white, but I don't really FALL into any of the other categories, thisis why I hate the whole category thing and the boxes.
I just want to apologize to everyone for those racist sounding comments, I am not a racist, but I can see now that it couldhave been seen as such. lets let bygones by bygones.

Thanks everyone!
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: j.rosh on August 16, 2005, 08:03:12 AM
There's always a new day.  Plus, God don't like ugly.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 16, 2005, 08:11:10 AM
Thanks!

That's why I like the fact that we can say GOOD morning:) ;D
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: Lawprofessor on August 16, 2005, 02:14:23 PM
Hey Vinny,

Take advantage of....makes it sound like such an ugly thing.  It also makes it sound like everyone who gets anything in life gets it on their own merit.  Would it be taking advantage of being rich if your dad had a famous name or donated money to the school where you applied?  Would it be taking advantage if you got in because of that?  Should that person hide the fact that their last name is Bush or Clinton or Reagan or Gates or Winfrey?  Why is it taking advantage to let people know part of who you are and how you got to where you are?  Be proud of who you are and all that you accomplished.  Wear it like a badge of honor and not be ashamed of it, or trying to hide it.  You have overcome tremendous odds to make it to where you are now.  Think about that.....dont you think that you are just the type of person and adcomm would like to see enter their institution??
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 16, 2005, 02:15:36 PM
hey lp!
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: Lawprofessor on August 16, 2005, 10:18:20 PM
hey lp!

Hey blk!  Whats shaking??
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 17, 2005, 06:40:58 AM
Lp,
I don't know, wouldn't they want someone who has a family history of doing these things over someone who came from nowhere with a famiy that didn't even graduate high school?
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 17, 2005, 07:07:35 AM

getting into law school isn't based on the achivements of your family... your dad could have been einstein and you could be the dumbest person to walk the earth..

Lp,
I don't know, wouldn't they want someone who has a family history of doing these things over someone who came from nowhere with a famiy that didn't even graduate high school?
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 17, 2005, 07:10:14 AM
But i"m saying that it looks better to them. I know for a fact that many of the people at ND are pretty stupid and the only reason they got in is because their parents went there. (I am also against legacy admits as well as AA, as you all already know).
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: Lawprofessor on August 17, 2005, 04:06:14 PM
Lp,
I don't know, wouldn't they want someone who has a family history of doing these things over someone who came from nowhere with a famiy that didn't even graduate high school?

Vinny,

Why, they have a whole class of those types.  If they are looking for diversity, they will want someone like you who can bring a different perspective to the classroom dynamic.  That is the whole point.  They want people who have overcome great odds who are not cut from the same cookie cutter mold as everyone else that they allow in.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 19, 2005, 09:49:33 PM
Well, then I hope that I am what they are looking for, I can only hope that my totral package is one they want to unwrap, lol.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: Lawprofessor on August 19, 2005, 11:27:12 PM
Present yourself as a complete package of who you really are and I am sure they will want you to attend their school more often than not. 
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: ImVinny! on August 20, 2005, 10:07:39 AM
Even ND? Most people on this site think that I am just dreaming that I can get into ND, that is my top choice.
I try to never lie on these things, I have an overactive conscience I believe. Probably since I am totally into the study of ethics, always second-guessing whether what I am doing is correct or not,
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: Lawprofessor on August 20, 2005, 02:49:13 PM
I would guess even ND.  I dont know your numbers, but I would say that if your numbers fit in with what they are looking for, why not ND?  You might as well go for it.  I dont see anything unethical about informing a school about your past and telling them where you come from. 
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: _BP_ on August 20, 2005, 04:39:51 PM
May your soul rest in peace Latoyia.
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: j.rosh on August 20, 2005, 04:41:30 PM
Back to Missing Black Woman topic:
Her remains (Latoyia) were found, boyfriend arrested.



PHILADELPHIA (Aug. 20) - Police discovered the remains of a missing pregnant woman and quickly arrested the father of her unborn child Saturday, ending an exhaustive, monthlong search.

District Attorney Lynne M. Abraham said Stephen Poaches would be charged with two counts of murder and related offenses for the deaths of 24-year-old LaToyia Figueroa and her fetus.

Authorities did not provide a motive or say what led them to suspect Poaches, 25, who police said was wearing a bulletproof vest and carrying a pistol when he was arrested.

The remains were recovered in a grassy, partially wooded lot in Chester, 13 miles from Philadelphia. A few dozen members of the Figueroa family and supporters arrived at the scene shortly after daybreak, clustering close to the police tape and embracing each other.

"Now she can rest in peace,'' said the woman's father, Melvin Figueroa. "All I want is justice with that peace.''

   
 "Now she can rest in peace. All I want is justice with that peace."
-Melvin Figueroa, LaToyia's father   
   
The woman's uncle, Jose Figueroa, said as terrible as the discovery of the body was, it puts an end to the weeks of fear and not knowing about LaToyia, who was five months pregnant at the time of the disappearance. "We can actually try to go back to a normal life,'' he said.

Relatives and friends have papered the city with flyers and held large-scale searches for any sign of Figueroa, recently marking one month since her disappearance. A reward fund for information had reached $100,000, including donations from the restaurant where she worked.

The case attracted a brief flurry of television attention after several Philadelphia-area bloggers waged a campaign urging networks to give the same attention to Figueroa, who is black and Hispanic, as they did to Natalee Holloway, a white woman who disappeared in Aruba.

Poaches' lawyer, Michael Coard, has repeatedly spoken to journalists on behalf of his client, including national television appearances in which he noted that Poaches has spoken to investigators voluntarily and that he has consented to have his home and his vehicle searched.

Police Commissioner Sylvester M. Johnson said Saturday that Coard's public relations moves would not hold up.

"He has an attorney who has basically tried this case in the news media and has depicted him to be innocent. We are saying today that he is not innocent and we are going to convict him and he will go to whatever he deserves to get,'' Johnson said.

Coard did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment after Saturday's news conference.

Figueroa, who also is the mother of a 7-year-old girl, was last seen on the afternoon of July 18 in West Philadelphia.


08-20-05 18:38 EDT
Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: blk_reign on August 22, 2005, 01:57:44 PM
Found Trying to Move Body, Figueroa’s Ex-Boyfriend Charged with Murder
Date: Sunday, August 21, 2005
By: Monica Lewis, BlackAmericaWeb.com

From their first conversation, Philadelphia radio personality Golden Girl was immediately suspicious of the young man who called her show to deny any involvement in the disappearance of his pregnant ex-girlfriend.

So when news broke of Steven Poaches’ arrest in the death of LaToyia Figueroa Saturday, Golden Girl, an on-air personality with WUSL-FM, told BlackAmericaWeb.com that she “wasn’t surprised at all.”

“I just kind of knew it all along. I mean, even though I couldn’t say it [publicly], from the time he called me, that was my conclusion,” said Golden Girl, who became involved in the investigation of Figueroa’s disappearance after Poaches, 25, frequently called her late-night talk show to discuss the case and address, on air, the accusations that some were making against him.

The decomposed body of Figueroa, five-months pregnant and already the mother of a seven-year-old girl when she was last seen on July 18, was found Saturday in a wooded area in Chester, a small town roughly 15 miles south of Philadelphia. Poaches is now charged with the murders of Figueroa and her fetus. Philadelphia District Attorney Lynne Abraham said Poaches may face additional charges pending further investigation.

 
Figueroa’s disappearance, which occurred as the media frenzy over missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway grew, sparked a national debate on how incidents involving missing women of color are covered by journalists. The grim discovery of her body comes one week after the remains of another black woman, Tamika Huston, were found by South Carolina police, more than a year after Huston was last seen alive. Like Figueroa, Huston’s alleged assailant appears to be a former flame.

When Figueroa, 24, was reported missing on July 21, loved ones said she was last known to be with Poaches, who accompanied her to a prenatal visit the day she vanished. Poaches, who had been cooperative with Philadelphia police throughout the investigation, had maintained that Figueroa left his West Philadelphia home after the doctor’s visit and that she may have wanted to escape stress associated with her pregnancy.

When fingers started pointing to Poaches, who failed to participate in the community vigils and neighborhood searches for Figueroa, he decided to call Golden Girl’s show to give his side of the story. On several occasions, Poaches, whose current girlfriend gave birth to their child shortly before Figueroa’s disappearance, would refuse to call Figueroa his “baby’s mama” during the on-air chats, choosing instead to refer to her as “the female.” But beyond that, Golden Girl said Poaches’ demeanor never sat well with her.

“I think what happened was that the guilt overrode whatever he tried to do to protect himself,” Golden Girl said, adding that, in addition to the bizarre conversations that were broadcast to millions of listeners, Poaches made several visits to the Philadelphia studio to meet with her, sat in the studio’s parking lot and made calls to Golden Girl’s private telephone line to discuss the investigation. Poaches' behavior moved Golden Girl to repeatedly listen to tapes of his conversations, something that helped her gain more insight than that of someone who only heard his conversations live on-air.

“I listened to them day in and day out, so I’ve heard much more than everybody else,” said Golden Girl, who turned over all tapes to Philadelphia police. “I think [Poaches] felt as though he needed to proclaim his innocence in order to get the heat off of him, but he just got very comfortable, very fast.”

However, after three weeks of repeated questioning by police, Poaches may have grown more and more uncomfortable with his alleged role in Figueroa’s disappearance and death. Published reports claim that police had been trailing Poaches for quite some time when he was observed attempting to move Figueroa’s body early Saturday morning. When he was picked up by police, Poaches was wearing a bulletproof vest and carrying a pistol.

Michael Coard, Poaches' attorney, said in a recent interview that Poaches had every right to be absent from the public activities for Figueroa, considering that he was fearful of how her family may react to his presence.

Ironically, the two had spoken Friday afternoon, hours before Poaches’ arrest, Coard told BlackAmericaWeb.com Saturday night. Poaches was asking how he could go about getting his car back from police, who took the vehicle as part of their investigation three weeks ago, said Coard, who admitted that he somewhat surprised about the weekend’s turn of events.

“Originally, the police said that Stephen was not a suspect, not a person of interest, and clearly that has changed now,” said Coard. “The worst case scenario, based on the evidence is that he allegedly might have been moving the body. That’s not evidence of murder.”

Nonetheless, family, friends and strangers alike can’t help but believe that Poaches was somehow involved in Figueroa’s death. Appearing on the “Today Show” Sunday morning, Figueroa’s aunt Stephanie Stephenson said Poaches never seemed to be upfront with the family in regards to what appeared to have been Figueroa’s last hours alive.

“He told too many conflicting versions of his story,” said Stephenson, who raised Figueroa after her own mother, Ann Taylor, was found dead on a North Philadelphia street in 1985. That death remains unsolved.

Despite how his client may look in the eyes of the public, Coard is asking everyone to refrain from making judgments, at least until Poaches is given a fair trial.

“There before the grace of God go I,” said Coard, who was hoping to speak with his client Sunday evening. “There are so many people falsely accused of a crime. Right now, we need to make sure that we abide by the law and, if [people] assume or presume anything, they need to assume or presume that he’s innocent.”

Title: Re: Missing BLACK Woman
Post by: kccole on August 22, 2005, 05:51:28 PM
SMH!!! :(