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Specific Groups => Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students => Topic started by: uwofresh on July 19, 2005, 04:15:34 PM

Title: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: uwofresh on July 19, 2005, 04:15:34 PM
Is it just an assumption or do black people IN GENERAL hate koreans?? 
I ask this because I remember that there was a LA riot when Rodney King was beaten by the White police, and the Black people attacked all the korean grocery markets and destroyed everything.  My parents always told me that it was indeed initiated by Koreans since Koreans made majority of their money off of African-Americans, yet still showed no respect and acted as if they were the upper class compared to the Blacks.

I also remember when Ice Cube made a rap song dissing Koreans, and some other notable hating words by others about Koreans.  Is this true?? 

I'm not trying to start s**t, I'm just really really curious since this doesn't seem to be the case in Canada.(I'm korean btw) 
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: newbie83 on July 19, 2005, 11:15:49 PM

I know it's generally not my place to speak for all african-americans, but I'm gonna go ahead and say no, black people do not hate koreans. I'm black and some of my best friends are korean.

Then I guess menace to society wasn't a generalization for all black people! Whew! ;D
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: asiangirl83 on July 22, 2005, 02:16:09 AM
I hope not. I'm Korean!
Pharell Williams is hot
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Byronic Hero on July 22, 2005, 02:29:57 AM
No, but I do.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Gary Glitter on July 22, 2005, 03:44:06 AM
true koreans (i.e. born and raised in korea, as opposed to pseudo koreans - their kids born in america) are some of the most racist people that you'll encounter

that being said, black people hate everyone
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: blaze.1 on July 22, 2005, 06:48:24 AM
I believe the LA riots occurred because the rioting blacks wanted a scapegoat for their economic hardships. 

Ice Cube said that Koreans were coming into the ghettos and taking money out to send their kids to college.  Thus, Koreans were taking money out of the ghettos and keeping the ghetto down.  I know Ice Cube was very young when he said this so I can forgive him for such idiotic logic.  There are much larger problems facing the ghetto than a korean-owned liqour store on the corner.  For example, welfare, crime, poverty, violence, drugs, fatherless homes. 

So, according to Ice Cube, if liqour stores were black-owned, the problems of the ghettos would disappear??  YEA RIGHT.    It's not like black-owners would stay in the ghetto if they had the chance to get out.  If anything, the korean liqour-store owners should be commended for their bravery.  Think about it.  Koreans, who barely speak english, go into the ghettos to make money to provide a better life for their family.  That is brave and beautiful.  In Ice Cube's defense, his latest movies ("Barber Shop", "Are We There Yet", etc) show he has refocused his efforts to effect social change in a more positive manner.

The movie Menace to Society was an extreme example of ghetto life.  I think after Tupac and Biggie died, pop culture started moving away from thug life towards a more positive attitude.  I believe there are many blacks and koreans that get along just fine in everyday life.  Here's to hope...
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: J D on July 22, 2005, 11:38:38 AM
I believe there are many blacks and koreans that get along just fine in everyday life.  Here's to hope...

I think you're right on that count.  If not, where on earth did Crystal Kay come from?  ;)

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Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: YoungIke on July 22, 2005, 01:08:16 PM
First, Hell no blacks don't hate Koreans. Now as for the Ice Cube statements, there are liquor stores and carry outs on every corner in Black communities. These are usually owned by Asians. Not to many black folks would own and run a liquor store in there own community. And it is also that the money made in these stores does not go back into Afro American businesses in the community. This does not mean we hate Koreans it just means we are aware of the exploitation of lower income black communities.

I believe the LA riots occurred because the rioting blacks wanted a scapegoat for their economic hardships.

Ice Cube said that Koreans were coming into the ghettos and taking money out to send their kids to college. Thus, Koreans were taking money out of the ghettos and keeping the ghetto down. I know Ice Cube was very young when he said this so I can forgive him for such idiotic logic. There are much larger problems facing the ghetto than a korean-owned liqour store on the corner. For example, welfare, crime, poverty, violence, drugs, fatherless homes.

So, according to Ice Cube, if liqour stores were black-owned, the problems of the ghettos would disappear?? YEA RIGHT. It's not like black-owners would stay in the ghetto if they had the chance to get out. If anything, the korean liqour-store owners should be commended for their bravery. Think about it. Koreans, who barely speak english, go into the ghettos to make money to provide a better life for their family. That is brave and beautiful. In Ice Cube's defense, his latest movies ("Barber Shop", "Are We There Yet", etc) show he has refocused his efforts to effect social change in a more positive manner.

The movie Menace to Society was an extreme example of ghetto life. I think after Tupac and Biggie died, pop culture started moving away from thug life towards a more positive attitude. I believe there are many blacks and koreans that get along just fine in everyday life. Here's to hope...
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: uwofresh on July 26, 2005, 02:48:24 PM
true koreans (i.e. born and raised in korea, as opposed to pseudo koreans - their kids born in america) are some of the most racist people that you'll encounter

that being said, black people hate everyone

I think this statement is so true. (The first statement)
I was born in korea but raised in Canada, and I am fully aware how racist koreans are.  It's funny how Koreans say that so-and-so are racist, yet they don't recognize that koreans are at times the most racist people. 
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: uwofresh on July 26, 2005, 02:51:34 PM
I believe the LA riots occurred because the rioting blacks wanted a scapegoat for their economic hardships. 

Ice Cube said that Koreans were coming into the ghettos and taking money out to send their kids to college.  Thus, Koreans were taking money out of the ghettos and keeping the ghetto down.  I know Ice Cube was very young when he said this so I can forgive him for such idiotic logic.  There are much larger problems facing the ghetto than a korean-owned liqour store on the corner.  For example, welfare, crime, poverty, violence, drugs, fatherless homes. 

So, according to Ice Cube, if liqour stores were black-owned, the problems of the ghettos would disappear??  YEA RIGHT.    It's not like black-owners would stay in the ghetto if they had the chance to get out.  If anything, the korean liqour-store owners should be commended for their bravery.  Think about it.  Koreans, who barely speak english, go into the ghettos to make money to provide a better life for their family.  That is brave and beautiful.  In Ice Cube's defense, his latest movies ("Barber Shop", "Are We There Yet", etc) show he has refocused his efforts to effect social change in a more positive manner.

The movie Menace to Society was an extreme example of ghetto life.  I think after Tupac and Biggie died, pop culture started moving away from thug life towards a more positive attitude.  I believe there are many blacks and koreans that get along just fine in everyday life.  Here's to hope...

Was Ice cube ever confronted by the song he made towards koreans??  And if he was, how did he respond to it?
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: angmill08 on July 26, 2005, 10:02:04 PM
Not to many black folks would own and run a liquor store in there own community.

What? Why not?
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: blaze.1 on July 26, 2005, 11:02:17 PM
First, Hell no blacks don't hate Koreans. Now as for the Ice Cube statements, there are liquor stores and carry outs on every corner in Black communities. These are usually owned by Asians. Not to many black folks would own and run a liquor store in there own community. And it is also that the money made in these stores does not go back into Afro American businesses in the community. This does not mean we hate Koreans it just means we are aware of the exploitation of lower income black communities.

Yes, I agree that hate is too strong a word.  I believe that blacks and koreans get along just fine, for the most part.  I'm just trying to explore this perception of exploitation.  Does running a business necessarily mean exploitation?  I mean, people dont have to eat at those restaurants.  Its not like the restaurant and liquor store owners are forcing people to pay double-price.  I equate the word "exploitation" with "victimization", and I dont know if this situation is so extreme.  I do believe, however, there are exploitations going on in the ghetto that are far worse and demand more attention.  Would you agree?  For example, asking a young kid to stand on the corner and blow a whistle everytime a cop comes, then paying the kid money.  Is that exploitation?  My intention is not to emphasize the negativity, but to redirect the focus onto other issues in hopes of a better society.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: YoungIke on July 27, 2005, 05:12:35 AM
Not to many black folks would own and run a liquor store in there own community.

What? Why not?

I don't know but it's not a common practice. I know If a lot did the community would probably attack them about it.

Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on July 27, 2005, 01:14:00 PM
Not to many black folks would own and run a liquor store in there own community.

What? Why not?

I don't know but it's not a common practice. I know If a lot did the community would probably attack them about it.



this is a REAL problem...aye am afraid u are close to the point...it is sad.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: angmill08 on July 28, 2005, 02:53:25 PM
I just don't understand why you'd say a black person would not run a liquor store when there are black people running illegal businesses just as harmful (i.e. selling drugs.) I imagine if a black drug dealer, or someone with a similar mentality had the means to open a liquor store and could make good money at it, they probably would.

But liquor stores require more up-front investment than other businesses, because you have to get a special license and can only operate in certain areas (not within X feet of a church or school, etc.) It's highly regulated and expensive up front. I think that's the reason blacks who go into drug sales don't own liquor stores instead. It's not out of some community spirit.

Edited to add:
Sorry this sounds kind of bitchy! What I mean is, yeah, there are all kinds of people taking advantage of majority-minority communities. But I don't think a person who invests in a legal, tax-paying business which is patronized by the community is taking advantage.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: ThePerfectSoldier on July 28, 2005, 05:28:58 PM
true koreans (i.e. born and raised in korea, as opposed to pseudo koreans - their kids born in america) are some of the most racist people that you'll encounter

that being said, black people hate everyone

I have to agree here, but not in the sense of a stereotype(and I don't think that's what he means either), but culturally Koreans are very racist.  I personally have no problem with Koreans, though, being black I guess that means something or other.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Harrahs on July 28, 2005, 07:21:28 PM
i have to agree with youngike on this one, or at least with his line of reasoning.  to further the discussion, there is animosity between the store owner and his customers.  i live in new orleans, and many corner-store owners are either iraqi or vietnamese.  they cater to inner-city african americans, and profit from many products that harm the african american community -- alcohol, cigarrettes, philly blunts.  sure, there is a demand for these products, but there must also be a sense of exploitation as well. 

with regard to the owner, he is not a simple worker, presumably dispassionate to the store and its contents.  to the owner, the store is his source of income, his livlihood.  it is no secret that shoplifting, robbery, and other objectionable behavior afflicts many of these communities.  the owners have to frequently deal with this as well. 

basically, it is a two-way street.  i don't think it is fair or possible to generalize blacks' feelings toward koreans, or vice-versa. 

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Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Gary Glitter on July 28, 2005, 08:49:24 PM
ah that's the biggest bunch of victimizing responsibility-revoking crap

let's not attempt to create our own destinies as they have already been defined for us by the white, yellow, red, whatever-color-that-isn't-black forces that be

it is not the gunshop owner (and we're talking the by and large here, ignore the minority of examples detailing gross negligence)but the man who pulls the trigger who is ULTIMATELY responsible

accountability no longer seems to have any meaning in this country ....
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: angmill08 on July 29, 2005, 01:48:07 PM
I understand that there is often animosity between non-black store owners and black customers. But I think some of the anger is misplaced. It'd be one thing if these liquor stores were patronized by people from all over the city, and economics or environmental racism or something located them in black neighborhoods, like a city wide NIMBY situation. But it's not. These are, from what I see, local businesses that cater to the neighborhood in which they are located. Service is crappy? Prices too high? Then that's a great business opportunity for a competing convenience store. Now I think there is a legitimate anger that capital is concentrated in the hands of the few and many black would-be entrepreneurs are shut out of business opportunities like this due to lack of capital. But the solution  to that would lie in public policy or law enforcement: making small business loans widely available, educating people on business operations, enforcing fair lending laws.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: John Galt on August 12, 2005, 10:55:21 PM
I dated a Korean woman and the idea of did blacks hate koreans was brought up. Her take was that the Koreans in L.A. exploited the black community and often treated black customers like crap. And by crap, I mean following customers around the store, speaking in another language while pointing at black customers, putting change on the counter instead of the black customers' hands. And so the burning of the Korean stores was an outlash at the obvious lack of respect the Korean community had for Blacks.

I'm not from LA, so I can't speak for black people there, but in general black people don't hate Koreans. I've never heard any of my black friends ever talk negatively about Koreans or Asians for that matter. I will say that I think there may be some animosity in the black community since Asians are seen as the "model minority" and they do whatever they can to be perceived as "not black." So I think they latch on to a lot of the negative stereotypes and generalizations about black people that makes any communication, relationship, and unity between the two communities very strained.

Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: divad on August 12, 2005, 11:21:24 PM
There definitely has been past occurrences of black-korean conflict.  Before the LA riots there was a boycott of korean groceries in NY by black americans who felt as though the koreans were being discriminating.  people from both sides were shot, which led community leaders to come up with a peaceful reconciliation.

Many koreans in america racially discriminate against blacks for several reasons.  i am in no way justifying it, but just listing some causes as to why this phenomenon is happening.  For one, many korean americans have experienced crime first-hand from black americans.  i have personally experienced this both in ny and california as i have watched my parents hand over their money in hold ups at gun point.

secondly though, it is because koreans they have adopted the "white" view of african americans, and all the negative stereotypes that go along with it.  where else would they have this preconception that blacks are violent, lazy, and dangerous?  there is no significant black population in korea.  blacks do not understand why koreans would so easily adopt this view, as the history of the korean people is one of oppression.  black leaders expect koreans to understand their situation because koreans have gone through a form of slavery during the japanese occupation.

what is IMPORTANT though is how the conflict was framed while it was happening.  caucasians (mainstream society) believe that it is a conflict between two stupid minorities going at it with each other because of jealousy.  what the white news reporters do not explain is that the reason why blacks are in poverty and are forced into situations where they have to steal is because white society discriminates against them.  they also do not explain the fact that koreans have adopted this "white" mentality towards blacks and therefore sometimes discriminate them.  and who are the blacks going to retaliate against?  sure aint the white people, because blacks cant touch them, it'll cause too much of a stir.  so they'll go after the easy target.  the korean americans who can't speak english.

don't you think that its strange that WHITE cops beat up a BLACK man, and the KOREANS end up taking the loss?
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: John Galt on August 12, 2005, 11:41:58 PM
Yeah my post above examines the idea of Koreans internalizing the negative stereotypes against blacks (and East Asians in general) but the question is how this whole model minority idea has led to their being no unity between the two groups and actual animosity.

I think Chris Edley and others have written about it. Interesting phenomenon.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: XYZZY on August 13, 2005, 06:34:08 AM
Yeah my post above examines the idea of Koreans internalizing the negative stereotypes against blacks (and East Asians in general) but the question is how this whole model minority idea has led to their being no unity between the two groups and actual animosity.

I think Chris Edley and others have written about it. Interesting phenomenon.


I seriously doubt Koreans think of themselves as "model" minorities.  There seems to be an implication that Koreans must accept either the value system of African Americans or the value system of White Americans. 

If anything the overtones are offensive in that it depicts Asians as an Uncle Tom among minorities, which simply isn't true.  Just because the value system of education and entrepreneurship may be more similar to white Americans does not mean Koreans are trying to be not black.. or as the overtones suggest "pleasing whitey".

Your post indicates a false dichotomy of a world where one fits as either the white oppressor or a stigmitized minority.  The fact of the matter is Asians bring an additional component that is neither. 
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: John Galt on August 13, 2005, 07:10:59 AM
"Just because the value system of education and entrepreneurship may be more similar to white Americans."

I rest my case.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: John Galt on August 13, 2005, 07:30:54 AM
Yeah my post above examines the idea of Koreans internalizing the negative stereotypes against blacks (and East Asians in general) but the question is how this whole model minority idea has led to their being no unity between the two groups and actual animosity.

I think Chris Edley and others have written about it. Interesting phenomenon.


I seriously doubt Koreans think of themselves as "model" minorities.  There seems to be an implication that Koreans must accept either the value system of African Americans or the value system of White Americans. 

If anything the overtones are offensive in that it depicts Asians as an Uncle Tom among minorities, which simply isn't true.  Just because the value system of education and entrepreneurship may be more similar to white Americans does not mean Koreans are trying to be not black.. or as the overtones suggest "pleasing whitey".

Your post indicates a false dichotomy of a world where one fits as either the white oppressor or a stigmitized minority.  The fact of the matter is Asians bring an additional component that is neither. 

Congratulations on not reading any of my post. Who cares how Koreans perceive themselves? White people are the one who classify East Asians as model minorities. And there is no implication that they must accept one or the other. Look at Latinos for example. It seems as if they chose to embrace being white(consider why asian parents will let their kids date white people, but not black people for example).

Your second paragraph reinforces my entire point that Koreans and East Asians internalize negative stereotypes and generalizations about blacks. And as for your final paragraphy, I'm not putting anyone in a box...but I'm curious, what is this additional component that they bring? What I'm saying is that East Asians may (or may not) have the inclination for upward mobility and see anything black as a hinderance to that upward mobility. Feel free to challenge this line of thought though.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: XYZZY on August 13, 2005, 07:57:34 AM
Yeah my post above examines the idea of Koreans internalizing the negative stereotypes against blacks (and East Asians in general) but the question is how this whole model minority idea has led to their being no unity between the two groups and actual animosity.

I think Chris Edley and others have written about it. Interesting phenomenon.


I seriously doubt Koreans think of themselves as "model" minorities.  There seems to be an implication that Koreans must accept either the value system of African Americans or the value system of White Americans. 

If anything the overtones are offensive in that it depicts Asians as an Uncle Tom among minorities, which simply isn't true.  Just because the value system of education and entrepreneurship may be more similar to white Americans does not mean Koreans are trying to be not black.. or as the overtones suggest "pleasing whitey".

Your post indicates a false dichotomy of a world where one fits as either the white oppressor or a stigmitized minority.  The fact of the matter is Asians bring an additional component that is neither. 

Congratulations on not reading any of my post. Who cares how Koreans perceive themselves? White people are the one who classify East Asians as model minorities. And there is no implication that they must accept one or the other. Look at Latinos for example. It seems as if they chose to embrace being white(consider why asian parents will let their kids date white people, but not black people for example).

Your second paragraph reinforces my entire point that Koreans and East Asians internalize negative stereotypes and generalizations about blacks. And as for your final paragraphy, I'm not putting anyone in a box...but I'm curious, what is this additional component that they bring? What I'm saying is that East Asians may (or may not) have the inclination for upward mobility and see anything black as a hinderance to that upward mobility. Feel free to challenge this line of thought though.


Go back and reread your post. 

"Yeah my post above examines the idea of Koreans internalizing the negative stereotypes against blacks (and East Asians in general) but the question is how this whole model minority idea has led to their being no unity between the two groups and actual animosity."

There is nothing in there that indicates a white labelling.  And if this model minority had no connection to Korean belief, how could it lead to a lack of unity between the groups?

You're using an interesting tactic for this debate.  For some reason you feel free to make generalizations among groups, but if a statement is made that is counter to your post, you make the claim of overgeneralization/stereotype.

Let's say that Koreans do adopt 'white stereotypes' on blacks.  What claim do you have that this is done to any greater degree than that adopted by even African Americans?

Nice double-standard on Asians.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: metoo on August 13, 2005, 08:14:51 AM
LOL!  You people make me laugh.  Trust me, black people could care less about Koreans.  In most parts of the country we see too few of them to give them a second thought.  Most of us have too many pressing problems too worry about disliking another minority group.  From my experiences as a black, most of us don't sit around discussing how much better the Koreans get treated by mainstream Americans than us because no one cares. I've been black my whole life, most of my friends have been black throughout my life, my family is black and never once have I had a conversation about how Koreans are treated better than blacks.  The majority of black I know simply feel that most of mainstream America is racist, and that's that, but they don't sit around dwelling on it.  No one really cares. You can try to discredit me by saying that I'm stereotyping and only speaking from personal experiences, but trust me on this on.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: S.J. on August 13, 2005, 08:28:26 AM
Is it just an assumption or do black people IN GENERAL hate koreans?? 
I ask this because I remember that there was a LA riot when Rodney King was beaten by the White police, and the Black people attacked all the korean grocery markets and destroyed everything.  My parents always told me that it was indeed initiated by Koreans since Koreans made majority of their money off of African-Americans, yet still showed no respect and acted as if they were the upper class compared to the Blacks.

I also remember when Ice Cube made a rap song dissing Koreans, and some other notable hating words by others about Koreans.  Is this true?? 

I'm not trying to start s**t, I'm just really really curious since this doesn't seem to be the case in Canada.(I'm korean btw) 



With all due respect, your parents are morons.

I love when people somehow try to excuse mindless violence by blaming the victims.  Koreans are also a minority, and they also experience discrimination.  They are often the only people with the balls and work ethic to start up businesses in ghetto neighborhoods. In the process, they perform a valuable service for the community - selling not just liquor, but food, otc medications and other groceries. 

Given that Koreans did not grow up here, one must presume that any lack of respect was generally earned by the surrounding community, in the way they acted towards the people who were simply there to perform a needed service.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: S.J. on August 13, 2005, 08:30:26 AM
I believe the LA riots occurred because the rioting blacks wanted a scapegoat for their economic hardships. 

Ice Cube said that Koreans were coming into the ghettos and taking money out to send their kids to college.  Thus, Koreans were taking money out of the ghettos and keeping the ghetto down.  I know Ice Cube was very young when he said this so I can forgive him for such idiotic logic.  There are much larger problems facing the ghetto than a korean-owned liqour store on the corner.  For example, welfare, crime, poverty, violence, drugs, fatherless homes. 

So, according to Ice Cube, if liqour stores were black-owned, the problems of the ghettos would disappear??  YEA RIGHT.    It's not like black-owners would stay in the ghetto if they had the chance to get out.  If anything, the korean liqour-store owners should be commended for their bravery.  Think about it.  Koreans, who barely speak english, go into the ghettos to make money to provide a better life for their family.  That is brave and beautiful.  In Ice Cube's defense, his latest movies ("Barber Shop", "Are We There Yet", etc) show he has refocused his efforts to effect social change in a more positive manner.

The movie Menace to Society was an extreme example of ghetto life.  I think after Tupac and Biggie died, pop culture started moving away from thug life towards a more positive attitude.  I believe there are many blacks and koreans that get along just fine in everyday life.  Here's to hope...


Exactly.  Ice Cube is (was?) a moron.  If african-americans wanted to start shops in the ghetto, they obviously could (many have).  And yes, it's terrible to save your money for your children's education. 
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: S.J. on August 13, 2005, 08:46:50 AM
I dated a Korean woman and the idea of did blacks hate koreans was brought up. Her take was that the Koreans in L.A. exploited the black community and often treated black customers like darn. And by darn, I mean following customers around the store, speaking in another language while pointing at black customers, putting change on the counter instead of the black customers' hands. And so the burning of the Korean stores was an outlash at the obvious lack of respect the Korean community had for Blacks.


Does anyone wonder WHY Koreans followed their customers around the store?  That maybe there was a reason for it?  Is it possible that they couldn't afford to have customers shoplift anymore?  And if so, is this really unreasonable behavior?

Also, if many of the customers in such neighborhoods have questionable hygiene (quite likely), then should we really be surprised or offended if store owners don't want direct physical contact with them? 

Finally, how is it "exploiting" anyone to offer goods for sale on the open market?  Is the same resentment directed at drug dealers, pimps, prostitutes -- the people who actually are exploiting and harming the communities?

I love how even some Koreans have been brainwashed into accepting that there was somehow some acceptable justification in the rioting simply because store owners were rationally responding to their environment.


I'm not from LA, so I can't speak for black people there, but in general black people don't hate Koreans. I've never heard any of my black friends ever talk negatively about Koreans or Asians for that matter. I will say that I think there may be some animosity in the black community since Asians are seen as the "model minority" and they do whatever they can to be perceived as "not black." So I think they latch on to a lot of the negative stereotypes and generalizations about black people that makes any communication, relationship, and unity between the two communities very strained.


I think the primary reason some people in the ghetto resent Koreans is because they work hard and become succesful, despite not being part of the "majority".  As such, they reaffirm the fact that most problems in such communities are largely self-inflicted. 

(This is why more successful blacks who live elsewhere probably don't dislike Asians as all, as they probably share similar values of sacrifice and achievement.)

I don't think Asians try to be "not black" at all.  Rather, they're simply being Asian, with cultural values of work, sacrifice, and education.  And Asians really don't care that much how white people perceive them.  I had a Chinese roommate, and I learned fairly quickly that many Asians look down on most whites as well as blacks.  Why?  For the same reason -- because neither group does as much with their opportunities as they could.  (Asians, on average, tend to be more succesful than whites as well, despite often starting out with less.)

And again, there doesn't appear to be any reason to believe that Asians are "latching on" to any stereotype or prejudice.  Rather, they're simply responding to what they see around them, and acting accordingly.  I'm not really sure how they can be blamed for this.  If residents of those communities have a problem with Korean owners, they can band together, buy a store, and run it themselves. 
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: S.J. on August 13, 2005, 09:15:34 AM
There definitely has been past occurrences of black-korean conflict.  Before the LA riots there was a boycott of korean groceries in NY by black americans who felt as though the koreans were being discriminating.  people from both sides were shot, which led community leaders to come up with a peaceful reconciliation.


A boycott is a rational and reasonable way to protest any perceived poor treatment.  As for people being shot, I suspect the koreans were generally being shot in armed robberies, and cusomters were generally being shot in self-defense, or while committing crimes.


Many koreans in america racially discriminate against blacks for several reasons.  i am in no way justifying it, but just listing some causes as to why this phenomenon is happening.  For one, many korean americans have experienced crime first-hand from black americans.  i have personally experienced this both in ny and california as i have watched my parents hand over their money in hold ups at gun point.


Yes.  This might theoretically affect the attitudes of store owners.


secondly though, it is because koreans they have adopted the "white" view of african americans, and all the negative stereotypes that go along with it.  where else would they have this preconception that blacks are violent, lazy, and dangerous?  there is no significant black population in korea.  blacks do not understand why koreans would so easily adopt this view, as the history of the korean people is one of oppression.  black leaders expect koreans to understand their situation because koreans have gone through a form of slavery during the japanese occupation.


Koreans have not "adopted" any view of any group.  Rather, they have simply formed views that are the product of their own experiences.  If they feel that many of their customers are violent, lazy, and dangerous, it is probably because a disproportionate number of them are.  And while other residents may end up unfairly being painted with the same brush, they again don't have to frequent any given store if they don't like the way they're being treated.

The reason that Koreans DON'T understand certain minorities who have these negative characteristics is precisely BECAUSE they have also experienced (true and recent) oppression, and are still willing and able to thrive economically despite it (like many/most african-americans).  As a result, it is understandable that they would have less sympathy for those who don't take responsibility for their lives, despite having far more opportunity than most people in other countries.


what is IMPORTANT though is how the conflict was framed while it was happening.  caucasians (mainstream society) believe that it is a conflict between two stupid minorities going at it with each other because of jealousy. 


Not at all.  (Though clearly envy on the part of some customers was a primary problem.) 

Rather, most caucasians I know recognize that Koreans, if anything, tend to be less stupid than the average person, and admire their work-ethic and courage in opening up such stores.


what the white news reporters do not explain is that the reason why blacks are in poverty and are forced into situations where they have to steal is because white society discriminates against them. 


Except, of course, that most blacks are not in poverty, and even most poor blacks don't make the choice to steal things.  (No one in this country is ever "forced" into a situation where they have to steal.) 

Also, the idea that "white society" today discriminates against blacks in any meaningful way is highly questionable.  If you look at any job or promotion that involves objective exams or criteria, you'll find that blacks, on average, are always hired and promoted with lower scores and other objective criteria.  (Studies have been done on this.)  Preferential treatment for urm's goes far beyond college and law school admission in today's society.

Ultimately, the minority of african-americans who live in poverty (and the ghetto) today are largely there because of their own choices -- choices to drink, to abuse drugs, to reproduce irresponsibly, and to avoid work, education, and sacrifice.  (This is also true, of course, of most whites and hispanics that live in poverty.)  This, again, is the real root of resentment against Asian shopowners, along with simple racist feeling against people who look different.


they also do not explain the fact that koreans have adopted this "white" mentality towards blacks and therefore sometimes discriminate them.  and who are the blacks going to retaliate against?  sure aint the white people, because blacks cant touch them, it'll cause too much of a stir.  so they'll go after the easy target.  the korean americans who can't speak english.



Again, the behavior and attitudes of Korean shopkeepers are not adopted, but simply a reaction to their personal experience.  Those blacks that have a problem with such attitudes can solve the problem quite easily by boycotting the store.  No "retaliation" is required or justified.


don't you think that its strange that WHITE cops beat up a BLACK man, and the KOREANS end up taking the loss?


What I think is strange is that any community would be stupid enough to burn down their own neighborhood as a form of protest.  If this doesn't tell you there's inherent problems within that community keeping it down, nothing will.  (The loss that Koreans took is far less than the loss experienced by the communities in question.) 

However, for what it's worth, it's highly likely that the customers of the destroyed Korean shops experienced some significant deprivation once they realized they no longer had the use and convenience of those stores.  Hopefully, if nothing else, this helped remind such residents that the Koreans in question were performing a valuable service, and deserved to be respected for that.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: angmill08 on August 13, 2005, 02:13:51 PM
What I think is strange is that any community would be stupid enough to burn down their own neighborhood as a form of protest.  If this doesn't tell you there's inherent problems within that community keeping it down, nothing will.

In my experience, a lot of people in the ghetto have conflicted feelings "their own neighborhood". In my city, and I understand this is normal, the black neighborhood is just the area whites relegated blacks to in the 1930s. Since then, parts of the "black" neighborhood become more white whenever they become desirable, so the areas that are almost all black are the neighborhoods that are least desirable. With the improvement of any neighborhood comes the knowledge that as wealthier (always whiter, in my experience) people move in, property taxes, rents and condemnations increase, and the older residents often have to move out. So there is a lot of frustration, coupled with a feeling of lack of control, which explains some of the riot psychology. It would be stupid to destroy a place you love and feel ownership of. But I doubt most rioters felt this way about their neighborhoods.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: S.J. on August 14, 2005, 03:54:03 AM
What I think is strange is that any community would be stupid enough to burn down their own neighborhood as a form of protest.  If this doesn't tell you there's inherent problems within that community keeping it down, nothing will.

In my experience, a lot of people in the ghetto have conflicted feelings "their own neighborhood". In my city, and I understand this is normal, the black neighborhood is just the area whites relegated blacks to in the 1930s. Since then, parts of the "black" neighborhood become more white whenever they become desirable, so the areas that are almost all black are the neighborhoods that are least desirable. With the improvement of any neighborhood comes the knowledge that as wealthier (always whiter, in my experience) people move in, property taxes, rents and condemnations increase, and the older residents often have to move out. So there is a lot of frustration, coupled with a feeling of lack of control, which explains some of the riot psychology. It would be stupid to destroy a place you love and feel ownership of. But I doubt most rioters felt this way about their neighborhoods.


I remember watching a news piece on gentrification in D.C. awhile back.  Some white people, maybe college students, were protesting the fact that yuppies were buying up formerly minority-owned homes in an african-american neighborhood.  The newsperson began interviewing a local resident to get his opinion.  He smiled, and said "hey, you don't see anyone from this neighborhood protesting!"  The point, of course, is that local residents were seeing increases in property values, and often experiencing significant financial windfalls as a result of the trend.  Given that many homes in such neighborhoods are fairly cheap to purchase, it shouldn't be surprising that many, if not most residents in such communities are in fact homeowners, and do in fact benefit from improving neighborhoods. 

(However, it should also be noted that most minorities no longer live in inner-city ghettos.) 

And, of course, South Central was hardly a prime spot for gentrification, from what I could see. 

(If people don't like their neighborhoods, why would they even care about gentrification?)

Finally, while it would clearly be dumb to destroy a place you love, it's also dumb to destroy any place you live, regardless of how you feel about it. 

Let me just emphasize:  this isn't really about ethnicty -- it's about cultural pathology.  Most minorities, black or otherwise, don't live in ghettos, and they aren't poor.  Most work hard, save, sacrifice, etc.  Those people who don't, whatever their ethnicity, tend to share certain problem, primarly poor decision-making.  The riots were just one example of that.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: angmill08 on August 15, 2005, 01:21:04 PM
et me just emphasize:  this isn't really about ethnicty -- it's about cultural pathology.  Most minorities, black or otherwise, don't live in ghettos, and they aren't poor.  Most work hard, save, sacrifice, etc.  Those people who don't, whatever their ethnicity, tend to share certain problem, primarly poor decision-making.  The riots were just one example of that.

I don't think it's just poor decision making that lands people in inner city ghettoes. If so, why would the population there be so heavily minority? There are historical factors that gave rise to the ghetto, and can shed light on some of the "cultural pathologies" or patterns of behavior you see there. (Like the lack of ownership people feel in the ghetto being related to economic & historical situations that create a of lack of control of one's place of residence.)

As we better understand what causes these negative behavior patterns, we can better understand how to foster positive behavior, development and growth in our cities.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: BuckFush on September 05, 2005, 01:36:41 AM
There are some black people who hate Koreans and there are Koreans who hate black people.  There are many black people who do not hate Koreans and there are many Koreans who do not hate black people.  Hard to generalize.  I would refrain from doing this if I were you and take each person on an individual basis.  I have met some Koreans who were very ignorant, yet I don't extrapolate their behavior to that of the entire Korean race.  You should do the same.

The Rodney King situation is unique, a predictable response by angry black people.  Black people are a proud, versatile people who are routinely treated as second class citizens in this country.  The antagonism that one feels on a daily basis can intensify in instances where yet more ignorant, racist, redneck white cops get set free for beating the hell out of a defenseless black man.  It could also be that these blacks in LA who decimated the Korean stores did so as a result of repeated and sustained lack of respect shown by the Korean grocers over months or years in addition to the anger over the King injustice.  It could also be resentment at the perception that Koreans (or any other race) seem to be able to get loans and financing for such stores in the black neighborhoods when blacks have been unable to do so because of lender bias against them.  There are many reasons but I wouldn't conclude that blacks hate Koreans.  This is ridiculous.

Get out and meet more black people without making assumptions about how blacks are.  They're just people like anyone else.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: F05HOPEFUL on September 05, 2005, 07:21:13 PM
yes
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: uwofresh on September 14, 2005, 02:27:41 PM
Is it just an assumption or do black people IN GENERAL hate koreans?? 
I ask this because I remember that there was a LA riot when Rodney King was beaten by the White police, and the Black people attacked all the korean grocery markets and destroyed everything.  My parents always told me that it was indeed initiated by Koreans since Koreans made majority of their money off of African-Americans, yet still showed no respect and acted as if they were the upper class compared to the Blacks.

I also remember when Ice Cube made a rap song dissing Koreans, and some other notable hating words by others about Koreans.  Is this true?? 

I'm not trying to start s**t, I'm just really really curious since this doesn't seem to be the case in Canada.(I'm korean btw) 



With all due respect, your parents are morons.

I love when people somehow try to excuse mindless violence by blaming the victims.  Koreans are also a minority, and they also experience discrimination.  They are often the only people with the balls and work ethic to start up businesses in ghetto neighborhoods. In the process, they perform a valuable service for the community - selling not just liquor, but food, otc medications and other groceries. 

Given that Koreans did not grow up here, one must presume that any lack of respect was generally earned by the surrounding community, in the way they acted towards the people who were simply there to perform a needed service.


With all due respect, you're mom is a female dog and she's pretty damn loose.  Now, does me stating "with all due respect" make this statement less offensive?  Think before you talk idiot.
I would've respected your post a lot more without the idiotic sentence.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Gary Glitter on September 14, 2005, 07:23:44 PM
here is an IM conversation with a korean diplomat that should clear up any confusion regarding the issue ...

jom faded4: basically, there are cultural diffferences right....?
jom faded4: and
jom faded4: ikoreans who come to america dont speak english well,...they work, all day to support their families
jom faded4: so, when they set  up shop in s.central la
jom faded4: the impression that blacks got from us was that we are stuck up
jom faded4: and the personal interactions were awkward and unfriendly
jom faded4: NOT because koreans dont like blacks,
jom faded4: but because of the language and cultural mannerisms and barriers
jom faded4: get what im saying?
DJMusik: so blacks hate koreans but koreans don't hate blacks right?
jom faded4: right
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: mentalpatient on December 08, 2005, 10:03:05 PM
Does anybody know how the anger of black people from Rodney King's incident was actually geared towards Koreans?  Obviously, blacks at the time should be angry to the majority Americans (whites), not Koreans when Rodney King beat the sh*t out of blacks on the street.  At the same time when this was happening, a teenage black girl was shot by a Korean grocery owner because he thought she was robbing or something at the store.  This covered the front page and this media coverage worked as popping the lid off a shaken can of coke.  When blacks were already thinking that they were being mistreated and oppressed in this society from Rodney King's incident by whites, now this killing incident brought another level of discrimination, but this time by Koreans, also a racial minority.  Koreans already being notorious in most black's mind for exploiting the capital out of the ghetto to send their kids to college, became victimized by the media coverage, burdening the anger of blacks by the killing incident and plus the initial anger by Rodney King's incident.  If Rodney King's incident did not happen in the beginning, the killing incident that happened as an accident or misunderstanding might not have brought the whole riot.  Very smartly controlled media coverage shifted the defendents of social injustice to Koreans instead of whites.  Who really controls the media?  Are we safe to say that media is never affected by politicians?  I think not.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: judicialreview on January 14, 2006, 08:59:31 PM
Over-generalization.  There are white people that hate blacks.  Chinese that hate Japanese.  French that hate Algerians.  Israelis that hate Iranians.  blah blah blah.

Any race will have a segment of its population hate a segment of another population. Thats just the way the world works.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 06, 2006, 10:32:22 PM
I know of Koreans that hate other Koreans.   ???  Yeah. Good friend of mines is Korean another is Taiwanese.  They can get along well with me but other individual asians sometimes never make the effort.  I think the more assimilationist someone is the more multi-racial their friends will be (to a degree). Some Asians I've found to be very tribalistic.  Will only talk to their own kind and have no interest in conversing with others. 
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: piggy-buttercup on March 06, 2006, 10:45:03 PM
<----- korean

I think it's my parents' generation that are afraid of blacks. or any other asians to that effect. maybe b/c of LA riot?

very limited sample to draw my conclusions from, but I've never met any blakcs hating koreans.

It's kinda funny to see korean people jammin' to ice cube's rap songs here in korea. They probably don't have a clue about what they are dancing to..
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 06, 2006, 10:49:48 PM
<-----Cool

I knew that you were Korean.  Funny than you mentioned that--I jam to the Korean group Turbo.  I dont know what they are saying.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: piggy-buttercup on March 06, 2006, 10:56:38 PM
<-----Cool

I knew that you were Korean.  Funny than you mentioned that--I jam to the Korean group Turbo.  I dont know what they are saying.

their songs are catchy n upbeat.. one of their songs was really popular a few yrs ago... the song was about a black cat nero that the dude liked or some girl that reminded him of the black cat nero? i think other songs are about love and all that jazz, like majority of other korean pops are.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 06, 2006, 11:01:15 PM
Well I wouldnt know what they say in their songs anyways.  Like 5-6 years ago they had a cover of a Prince song.  Funny think about the video was that it was set in LA.  I mean South Central LA.  And the girl was working at a liquor store when it got rob and she died.  Very sad song.  Which I knew what they were saying.  It was called Turbo - 'Tonight'
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: cyberrev on March 07, 2006, 08:42:51 AM
my wife, who was born in korea, certainly appreciates all those who have seen fit to speak for her.

she didnt realize that she hated blacks until she read this thread, and would like to thank those posters for opening her eyes.

she was always willing to give people a chance based on who they are instead of what they look like, and abjectly apologizes for living in such error.

she promises from now on to conform to racial steroetypes.




Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: piggy-buttercup on March 07, 2006, 08:50:23 AM
I don't hate Koreans. Never have. I took some classes in college that exposed me to Korean history and culture. Ever since that time, I have taken every opportunity I can to find out more about it. In fact, I am an avid watcher of Korean cinema and television.

which movies do ya like GJ? It seems like Korean movies are improving in quality dramatically.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 07, 2006, 08:53:04 AM



Well I like "Spring, summer, fall, winter and spring" and "Oldboy".  I say Korean movies are only second to american and first in being original.  I need to watch Mr. Vengeance.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: piggy-buttercup on March 07, 2006, 08:55:56 AM



Well I like "Spring, summer, fall, winter and spring" and "Oldboy".  I say Korean movies are only second to american and first in being original.  I need to watch Mr. Vengeance.

Isn't it Lady Vengeance? That movie was STRANGE! I didn't know what to think of it.. I liked oldboy, great plot, kinda sick though.

oh and watch scandal - korean version remake of Les Liasions Dangerueses. great great great setting.

that book has been made into movies as:

Dangerous Liaisons, 1988
Valmont, 1989
Cruel Intentions, 1999

in the states.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: piggy-buttercup on March 07, 2006, 09:01:52 AM
I don't hate Koreans. Never have. I took some classes in college that exposed me to Korean history and culture. Ever since that time, I have taken every opportunity I can to find out more about it. In fact, I am an avid watcher of Korean cinema and television.

which movies do ya like GJ? It seems like Korean movies are improving in quality dramatically.

My all time favorite is "My Sassy Girl." I know it is the typical favorite of non-Koreans, but it really touched me. I also loved "The Classic," "Over the Rainbow," and many of the high school centered comedies. These days, I watch more drama than movies. They allow for a level of character development the movies cannot touch.

do you rent the dramas from Korean video stores? Korean Dramas are ADDICTIVE.

My sassy girl is def a classic.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 07, 2006, 09:27:15 AM



Well I like "Spring, summer, fall, winter and spring" and "Oldboy".  I say Korean movies are only second to american and first in being original.  I need to watch Mr. Vengeance.

Isn't it Lady Vengeance? That movie was STRANGE! I didn't know what to think of it.. I liked oldboy, great plot, kinda sick though.

oh and watch scandal - korean version remake of Les Liasions Dangerueses. great great great setting.

that book has been made into movies as:

Dangerous Liaisons, 1988
Valmont, 1989
Cruel Intentions, 1999

in the states.

Their are TWO movies.  Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and the newer Sympathy for Lady Vengeance
imdb doesnt lie - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0661791/
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: piggy-buttercup on March 07, 2006, 09:30:19 AM
oooh~ there are two. better check out the mr. one then.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: _BP_ on March 07, 2006, 09:44:06 AM
So there was this Korean girl in college that I was cool with.  We used to hang out all the time…she would come to my dorm and watch movies and we would just sit there and talk.  We both knew that we liked each other but somehow it never went there.  In some ways I’m glad nothing happened, it kinda preserved the innocent sweetness of the relationship.  Anyhow, that was then.  If I were to run across her now on the other hand………….lol
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 07, 2006, 12:00:54 PM
So there was this Korean girl in college that I was cool with.  We used to hang out all the time…she would come to my dorm and watch movies and we would just sit there and talk.  We both knew that we liked each other but somehow it never went there.  In some ways I’m glad nothing happened, it kinda preserved the innocent sweetness of the relationship.  Anyhow, that was then.  If I were to run across her now on the other hand………….lol

I know exactly what you mean...lol
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: SFnative on March 14, 2006, 06:17:54 AM
Here is an interesting story related to this top:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/steelers/2006-02-09-ward-korea-buzz_x.htm
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 14, 2006, 07:07:19 AM
Here is an interesting story related to this top:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/steelers/2006-02-09-ward-korea-buzz_x.htm

It not only Koreans that have a severe problem with discrimination against blacks, Ive heard stories of blacks being  call devilspawn in Japan and being physically attacked. 

--Interesting sidenote.  The reason that Japan is so obssesed with robots is that unlike American who get Mexicans and other immigrants to do minial labor, Japan is so zenophobic that they will not allow Phillipinos to immigrate eventhough they need the labor and Japanese have a declining birth rate.  Therefore they choose to develop service robots so that they will never have to resort to immigrant labor.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 14, 2006, 07:39:05 AM
Here is an interesting story related to this top:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/steelers/2006-02-09-ward-korea-buzz_x.htm

It not only Koreans that have a severe problem with discrimination against blacks, Ive heard stories of blacks being  call devilspawn in Japan and being physically attacked. 


I wouldnt doubt it.  I plan on visiting japan also, I love sushi.  But Im just mentioning the fact that discrimination against blacks is not limited to Korea. 

While I do not doubt this, a couple of my friends have had pleasant experiences visiting Japan. They said they were treated like b-list celebrities, and in some cases like unicorns. Sure, they were only welcome superficially, but they never encountered any violence or hostility. If nothing else, I can live with that--as a tourist.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: piggy-buttercup on March 14, 2006, 07:46:58 AM
I heard that black guys are really popular in Japan.. (heard it from a friend stationed in Japan as USMC)

Here is an interesting story related to this top:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/steelers/2006-02-09-ward-korea-buzz_x.htm

It not only Koreans that have a severe problem with discrimination against blacks, Ive heard stories of blacks being  call devilspawn in Japan and being physically attacked. 


While I do not doubt this, a couple of my friends have had pleasant experiences visiting Japan. They said they were treated like b-list celebrities, and in some cases like unicorns. Sure, they were only welcome superficially, but they never encountered any violence or hostility. If nothing else, I can live with that--as a tourist.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 14, 2006, 07:59:48 AM
I heard that black guys are really popular in Japan.. (heard it from a friend stationed in Japan as USMC)

Here is an interesting story related to this top:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/steelers/2006-02-09-ward-korea-buzz_x.htm

It not only Koreans that have a severe problem with discrimination against blacks, Ive heard stories of blacks being  call devilspawn in Japan and being physically attacked. 


While I do not doubt this, a couple of my friends have had pleasant experiences visiting Japan. They said they were treated like b-list celebrities, and in some cases like unicorns. Sure, they were only welcome superficially, but they never encountered any violence or hostility. If nothing else, I can live with that--as a tourist.

More reasons for me to go then.... ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)...

Im not making a judgement on the whole society but just saying what I've heard about from a friend.  Not that this is typical behavior.  Most people are civilize.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Jigga00516 on March 14, 2006, 08:05:53 AM
Black Americans are welcomed in Japan as something like "b-list celebrities" as was said before. I'm not exactly sure why, my best guess would be that they see us on TV rapping and playing sports, and through that exposure have developed some sort of superficial admiration. However, Blacks from Africa who immigrated to Japan are looked upon negatively, and given the same racist treatment that our people are sure to find almost anywhere we go.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 14, 2006, 08:11:38 AM
Black Americans are welcomed in Japan as something like "b-list celebrities" as was said before. I'm not exactly sure why, my best guess would be that they see us on TV rapping and playing sports, and through that exposure have developed some sort of superficial admiration. However, Blacks from Africa who immigrated to Japan are looked upon negatively, and given the same racist treatment that our people are sure to find almost anywhere we go.

Thats too bad, im only 5'10" and Im tone deaf.  And your more likely to here me blasting Weezer than rap.  Maybe they dont care about that and I'll still be able to get into the hottest clubs.  Hopefully I wont have to dance, which I can't.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: _BP_ on March 14, 2006, 09:31:24 AM
Black Americans are welcomed in Japan as something like "b-list celebrities" as was said before. I'm not exactly sure why, my best guess would be that they see us on TV rapping and playing sports, and through that exposure have developed some sort of superficial admiration. However, Blacks from Africa who immigrated to Japan are looked upon negatively, and given the same racist treatment that our people are sure to find almost anywhere we go.

Thats too bad, im only 5'10" and Im tone deaf.  And your more likely to here me blasting Weezer than rap.  Maybe they dont care about that and I'll still be able to get into the hottest clubs.  Hopefully I wont have to dance, which I can't.

LOL, you're going to have some issues when your Black Card comes up for renewal  ;)
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 14, 2006, 09:53:50 AM
Black Americans are welcomed in Japan as something like "b-list celebrities" as was said before. I'm not exactly sure why, my best guess would be that they see us on TV rapping and playing sports, and through that exposure have developed some sort of superficial admiration. However, Blacks from Africa who immigrated to Japan are looked upon negatively, and given the same racist treatment that our people are sure to find almost anywhere we go.

Thats too bad, im only 5'10" and Im tone deaf.  And your more likely to here me blasting Weezer than rap.  Maybe they dont care about that and I'll still be able to get into the hottest clubs.  Hopefully I wont have to dance, which I can't.

LOL, you're going to have some issues when your Black Card comes up for renewal  ;)


I didnt even have the oppurtunity to get it renewed.  I was blasting Boy Goeorge's 'Chameleon'(Im not gay, just a child of 80's music) during 80's day on some radio station while driving in Newark (true story).  I guess a Black Card Union representative was in the neighborhood and sent me a letter requesting I send them back my card.  Im appealing the process. 
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: _BP_ on March 14, 2006, 10:13:07 AM
Black Americans are welcomed in Japan as something like "b-list celebrities" as was said before. I'm not exactly sure why, my best guess would be that they see us on TV rapping and playing sports, and through that exposure have developed some sort of superficial admiration. However, Blacks from Africa who immigrated to Japan are looked upon negatively, and given the same racist treatment that our people are sure to find almost anywhere we go.

Thats too bad, im only 5'10" and Im tone deaf.  And your more likely to here me blasting Weezer than rap.  Maybe they dont care about that and I'll still be able to get into the hottest clubs.  Hopefully I wont have to dance, which I can't.

LOL, you're going to have some issues when your Black Card comes up for renewal  ;)


I didnt even have the oppurtunity to get it renewed.  I was blasting Boy Goeorge's 'Chameleon'(Im not gay, just a child of 80's music) during 80's day on some radio station while driving in Newark (true story).  I guess a Black Card Union representative was in the neighborhood and sent me a letter requesting I send them back my card.  Im appealing the process. 

:D
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: mentalpatient on March 17, 2006, 02:00:40 AM
<-- Korean.  From my experience, black people were pretty chill in general and had nothing against me due to my Korean background.  When I was in college, I had a few black friends including this one girl I dated for a while.  She was a dancer... nice figure and cute face.  Though she had a hot temper at times, it was understandable coming from hot-tempered Korean culture.  Her mom used to treat me real nice whenever I visited though her younger brother was a little butthole until I kicked his ass on Tekken Tag.  When we used to go out, we sometimes went to a club that was nearly all black.  I wasn't particularly being stared at like "Look at that Asian boy" but many girls I got to know wanted to dance with me and I freaked them all.  Freak-dance was a big thing back in the days.  My girl wasn't jealous at all but was cheering me as I freakin represented my ethnicity in the club.  Even brothers whose girl got freaked by me was cool with me that night.  I decided to take off my Johnny Blaze hat after couple of dates we went on together just because I didn't feel like I needed that hat to fit in.  Everything was cool and when I think about it now it was a good memory in my life.  Damn.. as I was makin out with her in my car I was thinking, "Damn..black girls got some soft skin..." I've also touched white girls' but theirs weren't as soft. 
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 17, 2006, 04:24:44 AM
<-- Korean.  From my experience, black people were pretty chill in general and had nothing against me due to my Korean background.  When I was in college, I had a few black friends including this one girl I dated for a while.  She was a dancer... nice figure and cute face.  Though she had a hot temper at times, it was understandable coming from hot-tempered Korean culture.  Her mom used to treat me real nice whenever I visited though her younger brother was a little butthole until I kicked his ass on Tekken Tag.  When we used to go out, we sometimes went to a club that was nearly all black.  I wasn't particularly being stared at like "Look at that Asian boy" but many girls I got to know wanted to dance with me and I freaked them all.  Freak-dance was a big thing back in the days.  My girl wasn't jealous at all but was cheering me as I freakin represented my ethnicity in the club.  Even brothers whose girl got freaked by me was cool with me that night.  I decided to take off my Johnny Blaze hat after couple of dates we went on together just because I didn't feel like I needed that hat to fit in.  Everything was cool and when I think about it now it was a good memory in my life.  Damn.. as I was makin out with her in my car I was thinking, "Damn..black girls got some soft skin..." I've also touched white girls' but theirs weren't as soft. 

stop generalizing...you've never touched all white girls skin nor all black girls skin to say something like that...
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: _BP_ on March 17, 2006, 06:48:55 AM
<-- Korean.  From my experience, black people were pretty chill in general and had nothing against me due to my Korean background.  When I was in college, I had a few black friends including this one girl I dated for a while.  She was a dancer... nice figure and cute face.  Though she had a hot temper at times, it was understandable coming from hot-tempered Korean culture.  Her mom used to treat me real nice whenever I visited though her younger brother was a little butthole until I kicked his ass on Tekken Tag.  When we used to go out, we sometimes went to a club that was nearly all black.  I wasn't particularly being stared at like "Look at that Asian boy" but many girls I got to know wanted to dance with me and I freaked them all.  Freak-dance was a big thing back in the days.  My girl wasn't jealous at all but was cheering me as I freakin represented my ethnicity in the club.  Even brothers whose girl got freaked by me was cool with me that night.  I decided to take off my Johnny Blaze hat after couple of dates we went on together just because I didn't feel like I needed that hat to fit in.  Everything was cool and when I think about it now it was a good memory in my life.  Damn.. as I was makin out with her in my car I was thinking, "Damn..black girls got some soft skin..." I've also touched white girls' but theirs weren't as soft. 

stop generalizing...you've never touched all white girls skin nor all black girls skin to say something like that...

 :D
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Gary Glitter on March 17, 2006, 08:44:13 AM
the one asian chick i hooked up with was a complete prude

just another L.T.T.I. (lay there and take it)

now with that oh-so-important tidbit having being said, it is easy to conclude that yes - black people do hate koreans

[don't ask me, i'm bored]

 
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: mentalpatient on March 17, 2006, 01:11:22 PM
Yeah actually I take that back.  I just remembered not regular white girls I touched but white strippers had some soft skin that I ended up spending $200 for getting like 10 lap dances in the back room.  Using a lot of lotion can achieve the softness I guess.  Damn I love girls with soft skin.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: dividebyzero on March 17, 2006, 01:19:19 PM
Oh God no...

Not me, anyway...I think Korean women are some of the most beautiful in the world, I  admire how Koreans have managed to succeed in near-record time in this country after being abused by Japan for nearly a century, I even speak some Korean and actively study it.

Now, do a LOT of Koreans hate Black People?...well, there are always exceptions.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Gary Glitter on March 17, 2006, 03:22:35 PM
south korea has the highest average IQ in the world at 105 ...

yet another useful tidbit
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: mentalpatient on March 17, 2006, 05:41:36 PM
Oh God no...

Not me, anyway...I think Korean women are some of the most beautiful in the world, I  admire how Koreans have managed to succeed in near-record time in this country after being abused by Japan for nearly a century, I even speak some Korean and actively study it.

Now, do a LOT of Koreans hate Black People?...well, there are always exceptions.


Don't get me wrong.  I too love Korean women.  Some are beautiful some are fugly.  However, I love beautiful ones.  One thing I regret is that most of them tend to be too materialistic.  So who's going to refute my point for again being too stereotypical? 
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 18, 2006, 06:18:59 AM
south korea has the highest average IQ in the world at 105 ...

yet another useful tidbit


what about North Korea...lol...Explain that one to me.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 18, 2006, 06:22:01 AM
Oh God no...

Not me, anyway...I think Korean women are some of the most beautiful in the world, I  admire how Koreans have managed to succeed in near-record time in this country after being abused by Japan for nearly a century, I even speak some Korean and actively study it.

Now, do a LOT of Koreans hate Black People?...well, there are always exceptions.


Don't get me wrong.  I too love Korean women.  Some are beautiful some are fugly.  However, I love beautiful ones.  One thing I regret is that most of them tend to be too materialistic.  So who's going to refute my point for again being too stereotypical? 

I've met some Koreans who are not materialistic, especially the evangelicals but I will agree that the culture is very status driven (but that's not a crime; i would be in jail if it was) 
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: cyberrev on March 18, 2006, 06:57:49 AM
and, as an interesting side note that i have been eternally thankful for over the last 23 years of marriage....

most korean women do not have to shave their legs.  ever.

 ;D
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: _BP_ on March 18, 2006, 07:11:32 AM
and, as an interesting side note that i have been eternally thankful for over the last 23 years of marriage....

most korean women do not have to shave their legs.  ever.

 ;D

wait a minute, does this mean...... :P
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: cyberrev on March 18, 2006, 07:13:46 AM
no, it stops below the waist.

however, i'm a fan of smoothocity where ever one can find it  ;D
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: _BP_ on March 18, 2006, 07:34:25 AM
no, it stops below the waist.

however, i'm a fan of smoothocity where ever one can find it  ;D

 :D
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: lawhijabi on March 26, 2006, 02:49:29 AM
The question do all blank hate blank is a racist and stereotypical question in its self.  You have generalized a group of people.  Prejudices are promoted by ignorance and fear.  Perhaps you want to look at your own hate issues. 

It would be rather scary if the root of your question is a movie or song.  Not off the wall, being as studies show that the more TV you watch the more stereotypical ideas you have.  Not to mention that almost all media outlets in America are for the most part owned by five companies, so you do not exactly get a balanced view of things.  However, it is quite disturbing.  The future leaders of America base their opinions of the world less television.  It is no wonder our justice system is affected so strongly by bias.

I am African American.  I do not hate Koreans, or any other group of people.  I do hate ignorant questions.  Still I applaud you for having the courage to ask.  It is better to seek knowledge then to remain uneducated. 
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 26, 2006, 06:03:06 AM
The question do all blank hate blank is a racist and stereotypical question in its self.  You have generalized a group of people.  Prejudices are promoted by ignorance and fear.  Perhaps you want to look at your own hate issues. 

It would be rather scary if the root of your question is a movie or song.  Not off the wall, being as studies show that the more TV you watch the more stereotypical ideas you have.  Not to mention that almost all media outlets in America are for the most part owned by five companies, so you do not exactly get a balanced view of things.  However, it is quite disturbing.  The future leaders of America base their opinions of the world less television.  It is no wonder our justice system is affected so strongly by bias.

I am African American.  I do not hate Koreans, or any other group of people.  I do hate ignorant questions.  Still I applaud you for having the courage to ask.  It is better to seek knowledge then to remain uneducated. 


Nice response.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: athena_epoch on March 30, 2006, 12:15:26 PM
I thinks Koreans are racists themsleves. so if black people hate Koreans, there is a reason.  Koreans hate lots of other people too. Koreans discriminate Chinese. You never hear Chinese hate anyone, that's why people don't hate chinese.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 30, 2006, 12:36:39 PM
I thinks Koreans are racists themsleves. so if black people hate Koreans, there is a reason. Koreans hate lots of other people too. Koreans discriminate Chinese. You never hear Chinese hate anyone, that's why people don't hate chinese.

I believe that the Chinese persecuted the Korean for a number of years and that's why there might be conflict between the two.  Chinese hate Japanese, all stems from Japanese killing thousands of Chinese prior and during WW2, and the fact that Japanese used Chinese (and I believe Korean women also) as sex slaves for their military. 
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: athena_epoch on March 30, 2006, 12:49:10 PM
I thinks Koreans are racists themsleves. so if black people hate Koreans, there is a reason. Koreans hate lots of other people too. Koreans discriminate Chinese. You never hear Chinese hate anyone, that's why people don't hate chinese.

I believe that the Chinese persecuted the Korean for a number of years and that's why there might be conflict between the two.  Chinese hate Japanese, all stems from Japanese killing thousands of Chinese prior and during WW2, and the fact that Japanese used Chinese (and I believe Korean women also) as sex slaves for their military. 

chinese persecuted Korean? where does that come from?
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Shady Lady on March 30, 2006, 09:47:52 PM
If we're going to generalize about certain races hating certain races (and this is very generalized, and obviously by no means implies that every member of a race hates that other race), then I can tell you that Chinese people hate Japanese people. This is due to the WWII and the fact that many Chinese suffered, and there has been no formal apology. Mainland Chinese are also quite xenophobic in general. Maybe they're just more quiet about it??

I'm not sure it's fair to say that Koreans are among the most racist of all. I'm pretty sure just about every ethnicity has it's vocal and close-minded advocates who bash every other race for being smelly, stupid, ugly, etc... and somehow it applies to all races but their own.

Sooo, I'm rambling. UWOfrosh, thanks for bringing up this topic... fascinating.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: dividebyzero on March 30, 2006, 09:51:53 PM
I didn't think we had a chance to repeat the same arguments anywhere near long enough  ;)

Let the posting continue!
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Shady Lady on March 30, 2006, 09:56:08 PM
haha I'M SORRY!!  ::)
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: dividebyzero on March 30, 2006, 09:57:06 PM
haha I'M SORRY!!  ::)

s'okay...
I was genuinely sad to see this thread die an early death.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Mr. Pink on March 31, 2006, 06:27:01 AM
I thinks Koreans are racists themsleves. so if black people hate Koreans, there is a reason. Koreans hate lots of other people too. Koreans discriminate Chinese. You never hear Chinese hate anyone, that's why people don't hate chinese.

I believe that the Chinese persecuted the Korean for a number of years and that's why there might be conflict between the two.  Chinese hate Japanese, all stems from Japanese killing thousands of Chinese prior and during WW2, and the fact that Japanese used Chinese (and I believe Korean women also) as sex slaves for their military. 

chinese persecuted Korean? where does that come from?

Sorry, Im wrong.  It's both Chinese and Korean that were persecuted by Japan.  My mistake, sry.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: tempgirl on November 24, 2007, 05:08:27 AM
I am an african american and as a resident of the black community, I will give you MY honest opinion. No, I do not hate Koreans but what I DO hate is the fact that Koreans can come to our community and have the opportunity to sell us our wigs, black hair products as well as sell us our Lousiana fried fish and other things of OUR culture when we cannot be financed to do the same with the same treatment. How would Koreans feel if we went to Korea selling Korean food, clothing and things of their culture? They would probably say amongst themselves, what do these people think they're doing, what do they know about us? I have lost count of the number of times that I've gone into a swapmeet or beauty supply and noticed them watching me with very suspicious eyes as if to say, you people cannot be trusted. Thank you.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: UCILS on November 24, 2007, 11:17:50 AM
I am an african american and as a resident of the black community, I will give you MY honest opinion. No, I do not hate Koreans but what I DO hate is the fact that Koreans can come to our community and have the opportunity to sell us our wigs, black hair products as well as sell us our Lousiana fried fish and other things of OUR culture when we cannot be financed to do the same with the same treatment. How would Koreans feel if we went to Korea selling Korean food, clothing and things of their culture? They would probably say amongst themselves, what do these people think they're doing, what do they know about us? I have lost count of the number of times that I've gone into a swapmeet or beauty supply and noticed them watching me with very suspicious eyes as if to say, you people cannot be trusted. Thank you.

one of the sticking points seems to be the fact that immigrant groups have access to capital while african americans are often denied such access.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: 1654134681665465 on December 03, 2007, 08:40:05 AM
one of the sticking points seems to be the fact that immigrant groups have access to capital while african americans are often denied such access.

Do you have proof of this or is this just what you think is happening?
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Freak on December 03, 2007, 09:17:35 AM
Actually I've heard that black people have less access to capital for several years now, but nobody has pointed me to a study. Any takers? I'm curious.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Freak on December 03, 2007, 10:45:27 AM
Then I'd have to read each study to determine if it's valid. It'd take at least an hour.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: 1654134681665465 on December 04, 2007, 08:39:33 AM
It means that it is just his opinion and therefore not relevant unless he can show some proof of it.  That's why I asked for a link. 
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: 1654134681665465 on December 04, 2007, 09:33:09 AM
Yeah, I wanted to know if he had anything to base his opinion on.  What is the point of discussing a topic if people only use their opinions to make points. 

It is my opinion that Hillary Clinton is a lesbian who eats babies.  Now, please, only answer the following question: Why is she a lesbian and why does she eat babies?
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: dividebyzero on December 04, 2007, 11:13:55 AM
(It's been a *very* long time since I've posted on this board, but because the S&G board is so dead and this topic hits close to home...)

I'm black, and grew up an Army brat. As such, I enjoyed living in some of the most diverse areas in the country despite their seeming unlikelihood, thanks to the military's proud (and ironic) tradition of being at the vanguard of multiculturalism in America. Who would've imagined that a town in central Texas would boast a population, 1/3rd of which were Korean-Americans?

The military presents a concise, yet very diverse sampling of pretty much every ethnicity, race, and creed there is in America. My neighbors were Puerto Rican, Samoan, and Filipino. My first girlfriend was Japanese-Korean, my sixth grade history teacher was Jewish, etc.

So, I grew up very close to Koreans, and relished the opportunity. I became a bit of a Koreaphile, teaching myself as much about their language and culture as I could, hoping to one day become fluent in Hanguk-mal.

However, once I left my delightful little military microcosm, I quickly learned that not all diverse communities are made equal. I moved to the East Coast, in an urban neighborhood with a large Korean and Black population. It was horrid; I was exposed to a level of racism I thought didn't exist anymore, I have never felt so categorically snubbed. Even though I was eager to live in this new environment with my Korean neighbors, willing to engage them *in their own language*, their complete and utter disdain for me as a black male was f-ing palpable.

There were some bright spots, to be sure, but they were disturbingly few and far between. The experience has left a very nasty taste in my mouth, I became extremely resentful, I even dropped my major from East Asian studies because I felt so betrayed (it didn't help that the stories of black travellers to Korea itself were uniformly worse, either).

It means that it is just his opinion and therefore not relevant unless he can show some proof of it.  That's why I asked for a link. 

You cannot possibly have such a bizarrely myopic view of U.S. history. A two-second Google search on "lending discrimination" provided:

http://www.huduser.org/publications/fairhsg/lending.html - What We Know About Mortgage Lending Discrimination in America, U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development

Recent Perspectives on African-Americans in Post-Industrial Labor Markets, by James B. Stewart, The American Economic Review © 1997

This isn't exactly a *shockingly new* idea that blacks suffered extensive economic discrimination throughout the last two centuries. Though not limited specifically to blacks, it's kinda why things like the Fair Housing Act were passed in the first place.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Freak on December 04, 2007, 12:24:07 PM
That study is 8 years old according to HUD (Sept. 1999) done by the Urban institute, but I found no such Sept. 1999 study on Urban's website...5 minutes wasted my friend.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: dividebyzero on December 06, 2007, 11:12:00 AM
That study is 8 years old according to HUD (Sept. 1999) done by the Urban institute, but I found no such Sept. 1999 study on Urban's website...5 minutes wasted my friend.

Done by the Urban Institute, sponsored and commissioned by HUD. The fact that it's nine years old isn't at all dispositive; it illustrates that there has been a history of economic discrimination against minorities (blacks and latinos in particular) as recently as nine years ago.

You have to be trolling, besides. I refuse to believe that a potential law student actually thinks that the history of race relations in the U.S. has been nothing but "Flowers and Sunshine" with parity for all since the Emancipation Proclamation. If so, you're in a for a rude awakening once (or should) you ever get into Property class.


Anyway, I felt that I should qualify my previous post about being a *former* Koreaphile. It's not to say that I hate Koreans now because of the experience, nor do I honestly believe that *all* Koreans hate black people (I know better from where I grew up), but I offered my experience to illustrate that relations between Blacks and Koreans probably aren't as good as they could be in a few places.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Freak on December 06, 2007, 12:21:56 PM
Potential ls? lol.

I know problems exist; I just can't find that study on Urban's website. In other words, this particular allegation - lending discrimination - I have seen no studies on.

You sure get worked up over nothing.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: oyvey on May 05, 2009, 05:07:11 PM
I'm not sure...I just happened to look up Korean Store in the google search engine and found a movie by Spike Lee where they had Korean store in an inner city neighborhood made mostly up of Blacks and Hispanics. In the movie they would blatantly disregard any human decency towards the Koreans (a mother, father and little boy) and they were about to burn down the Korean store until the father said I'm one of you, I'm black too. Then this guy was like no leave him but I think they burned down another asian store or restaurant. If you ever find the answer that would be nice to know but honestly I think it depends on the person and why is/was there so much cruel things done and said about koreans by the african-american race? BTW I'm korean,african-american and many more.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: jjk2 on May 07, 2009, 04:19:49 PM
well from what i hear these two black people hate most

#1 Jews
#2 Koreans

Both share some common traits.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Esco on May 11, 2009, 11:42:54 AM
well from what i hear these two black people hate most

#1 Jews
#2 Koreans

Both share some common traits.

You people are ignorant.  I feel sorry for your classmates.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: AgreeToDisagree on May 11, 2009, 01:21:56 PM
My best friend is a Korean. He introduced me to Korean BBQ, Kim Chee (sp?), I even know how to say hello in Korean...Yeabaseaooo. I take my shoes off when I'm in his house and everything. I even listen to a Korean rapper named son of ran. All my Korean homeboys try to emulate my style, etc. but they're cool. No hatred over here.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Good Teacher on June 08, 2009, 10:47:12 PM
Is it just an assumption or do black people IN GENERAL hate koreans?? 
I ask this because I remember that there was a LA riot when Rodney King was beaten by the White police, and the Black people attacked all the korean grocery markets and destroyed everything.  My parents always told me that it was indeed initiated by Koreans since Koreans made majority of their money off of African-Americans, yet still showed no respect and acted as if they were the upper class compared to the Blacks.

I also remember when Ice Cube made a rap song dissing Koreans, and some other notable hating words by others about Koreans.  Is this true?? 

I'm not trying to start s**t, I'm just really really curious since this doesn't seem to be the case in Canada.(I'm korean btw) 


I don't speak for all the members of the African Diaspora and neither does Ice Cube (he spewed a lot of hate music back in the mid-90s when he apparently became part of the Nation of Islam...however; I think he's matured since then).  Please don't assume that all blacks harbor hate for any group of people.  In regards to Korean immigrants, I think many blacks have come to admire the thriving business presence Koreans hold in black communities throughout America.

Also, it's pretty safe to say that people (black, white, brown, etc) like or dislike individuals and not entire ethnic groups.  Therefore, if you're having problems with blacks personally, consider your own disposition, personality, or behaviors.  A warm smile and compliment will win over just about anyone. :-)
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Contract2008 on June 10, 2009, 09:01:06 PM
My best friend is a Korean. He introduced me to Korean BBQ, Kim Chee (sp?), I even know how to say hello in Korean...Yeabaseaooo. I take my shoes off when I'm in his house and everything. I even listen to a Korean rapper named son of ran. All my Korean homeboys try to emulate my style, etc. but they're cool. No hatred over here.

Because they don't know you're racist. 
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: kkeasi on June 28, 2009, 04:51:47 PM
I had so many black friends back in high school...so let me tell ya

black guys just love asian girls so they love korean girls.
black girls don't like asian girls because black guys love asian girls.

That's it.
I don't know about korean guys. sorry

and I love black girls!!! they are so cute
but black guys scare me
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: eyeoftheligrr on June 28, 2009, 08:39:39 PM
but black guys scare me

THIS.  argggg!  >:(

I hear this all the time from Korean middle school students.  I calmly explain to them that there is nothing to fear.  I don't judge them because (a) they are all sixteen or younger and (b) most of them have never met a black person.

You are an adult who has known African(-American?) folks personally.  Your point of view reflects poorly on you as an individual.  Assuming you are Korean, your point of view also lends credence to the (equally prejudiced) idea that Koreans are racist.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Contract2008 on June 28, 2009, 09:02:49 PM
but black guys scare me

THIS.  argggg!  >:(

I have been told so many times that lots of non-black females (as well as young children) are scared of black people, especially black guys. 
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: eyeoftheligrr on June 28, 2009, 10:52:05 PM
Conclusion?
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: perezr8 on July 01, 2009, 11:53:46 AM
Has any one seen the movie "don't be a menace in south central while drinking you juice in the hood"" HURRY UP AND BUY!!
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: eyeoftheligrr on July 01, 2009, 08:45:43 PM
Worst. Thread. Ever.

kkeasi -- I just noticed that was your very first LSD post.  I didn't mean to scare you away.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Aisha1993 on July 05, 2009, 04:49:02 PM
OK, this is coming from a female, black high school student.


black girls don't like asian girls because black guys love asian girls.

That is so not true!! Because that would mean that i have to hate white girls and mexicans too  :P. (i dont!!)

Anyways i think this whole topic is an older generation argument because i have a ton of Asian friends and we get along great.(guys and girls)

Most young people are more open to different things/people than older people are.

Also, people say that black people shouldn't go to Asia because its so racist there and blah blah blah, but my sister lived in Japan for 2 years and she loved it she wants to go back too! She didnt say a thing about racism, actually it was the opposite, she said she always got great service because people were so shocked and happy to see that she had learned their language. Also, she told me that a lot of them had never actually met a black person, so she made a lot of new friends who wanted to learn about her. They were curious and stared a lot but not racist!
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: JDat45 on November 28, 2009, 08:33:14 PM
Scared of black guys in IRL, but love them if they are in the movies are on the court or field...or even gangsta rappers...oh the irony. *smh*  ::)
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: KUMUNGHORANGHI on May 28, 2010, 04:16:24 AM
This is coming from a black man who grew up with Koreans.  I know there are some good Koreans out there but from what I have seen most Koreans are full of bunnies.  As early as I could remember I fought this bigger kid who started bunnies with me in the bathroom.  When I socked him in the eye, he backed off, later he met me in the lunch area and we got busy.  The noon aid broke it up, sent us to the office.  As soon as we got there this bloke started crying.  His exact words, "Oh I just try to be his friend and he was mean to me."  They gave this kid a warning and me 5 days of suspension.  When I studied Tae Kwon Do I was one of the few people who performed well during demonstrations, everybody would applaud me, there were a few good people that could spar, some hispanic, some white, but only the Koreans received the awards, everybody, the parents were upset over this.  Flash forward later in my life, I was jumped by some Korean gang members, they said I threatened their girlfriend, I beat one of their asses so bad none of them wanted to jump in and fight me, the police came and those guys lied and said I started the fight, despite the fact I was searched yet they had fully auto-matics in their car, they said they were students and I was harassing them.    I was charged with a felony.  I got the judge to drop it to a misdemeanor, but still... I couldn't get into the army, like I always wanted because of this.  I have been in places where these f-ing people will threaten to call the police on me when I say hello to them.  I never said I was a good person, but I think these people are low life cheap imitations of the real thing.  I was in jail for an unpaid traffic ticket, I saw this hispanic deputy acost this young black man simply for "eye-balling" him.  This Korean "Kim" followed the hispanic deputy into the visitor's room and they beat him.  An unnarmed man, just beat him.  No, what white people don't understand is Koreans think they can get away with whatever the @#!* they want because they feel they are doing their duty by oppressing black people.  They will move into your neighborhood and sell poison, they will make you die for their country while still  expecting you to think that your country is theirs.  This is why I speak Japanese, because I hate f-ing chosenjin.  Not all Koreans are bad though, some know how screwed up Koreans can be.  But no, @#!* Koreans.  I never had anything against them, but they apparently had something against me.  Of further note, if you have been to Chosen, then you will see how they really are, violent, dog eating, alcoholics.  I will never acknowledge Korea it will always be Chosen to me.  Under orders from a white man, my uncle (a co-pilot_ bombed an innocent village in North Chosen.  He was so distraught after he came home he shot himself.  Now my nephew is over there, fighting for people that would call the police on him and follow him up and down the store.  @#!* Chosenjin.  By the way black people shouldn't go to Asia?  Kuso! I like Asia better than America.  The cops don't follow me up and down the street for no reason. I lived in Thailand, Philippines, and Japan for years.  I'm only miserable when I go back home to America where they treat people like me like dog ****.   No blacks should go to Asia learn the language because pretty soon things will get so bad they will pass a law where it's legal to shoot all black people on site.  And don't give me no kuso about no black president. I'll know when this is post racial when my fellow countrymen stop eyeballing me with suspicion; all we did for this country, I can trace my ancestors from the Revolutionary War to the present, and you Hippocrates would rather give a badge to a child molesting, dog eating, alcoholic Korean who would rather abuse his power than save innocent lives.  If I were Obama I'd pull all the troops out of Korea , reinstate the war powers to Japan and let those Chosenji blow themselves up.   Sick of Chosenjin, why do they operate most of the Japanese rester-aunts here in the states yet have the frikin nerve to get ticked at you if you ask for natto or some other popular Japanese dish?  Then they get pissed because you speak Japanese to them as if you can tell the difference between them?  Me and my friend have a rule whenever we desire Korean food if the first look from Chosenjin is a bad one we don't eat there.  **** those child molesting hippocrates!  You don't believe me?  Ask a native Filipino how sadistic those scumbags are!!!!   They are known to put out their cigarettes in their genitals.  Sick bastards.   


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Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Sheshe on May 28, 2010, 10:31:18 AM
Umm I love the Koreans that do my nails. Matter of fact I even gave some thought to bangining the salon owner's hubby. He's super hot & doing an Asian is on my bucket list (I wanna see if their happy sticks are really as small as Oprah says)!  ;)
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: tryinLawSchool on July 18, 2010, 07:16:39 AM
Is it just an assumption or do black people IN GENERAL hate koreans?? 
I ask this because I remember that there was a LA riot when Rodney King was beaten by the White police, and the Black people attacked all the korean grocery markets and destroyed everything.  My parents always told me that it was indeed initiated by Koreans since Koreans made majority of their money off of African-Americans, yet still showed no respect and acted as if they were the upper class compared to the Blacks.

I also remember when Ice Cube made a rap song dissing Koreans, and some other notable hating words by others about Koreans.  Is this true?? 

I'm not trying to start s**t, I'm just really really curious since this doesn't seem to be the case in Canada.(I'm korean btw) 


I don't speak for all the members of the African Diaspora and neither does Ice Cube (he spewed a lot of hate music back in the mid-90s when he apparently became part of the Nation of Islam...however; I think he's matured since then).  Please don't assume that all blacks harbor hate for any group of people.  In regards to Korean immigrants, I think many blacks have come to admire the thriving business presence Koreans hold in black communities throughout America.

Also, it's pretty safe to say that people (black, white, brown, etc) like or dislike individuals and not entire ethnic groups.  Therefore, if you're having problems with blacks personally, consider your own disposition, personality, or behaviors.  A warm smile and compliment will win over just about anyone. :-)

I tend to agree. I think people tend to be prejudice  against people who obtain more than them. I think it has more to do with jealousy, but attacking their race becomes easier, because attacking what they have is admitting to your own feelings of inadequacy, and that is just much more difficult for humans. It requires a level of inner truth most of us are incapable of.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: mark201 on November 05, 2010, 07:41:49 PM
Black people hate every other race that is not like them, Black people are the true Racist themselves.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: MEMEMEME on November 07, 2010, 12:16:54 AM
Is it just an assumption or do black people IN GENERAL hate koreans?? 
I ask this because I remember that there was a LA riot when Rodney King was beaten by the White police, and the Black people attacked all the korean grocery markets and destroyed everything.  My parents always told me that it was indeed initiated by Koreans since Koreans made majority of their money off of African-Americans, yet still showed no respect and acted as if they were the upper class compared to the Blacks.

I also remember when Ice Cube made a rap song dissing Koreans, and some other notable hating words by others about Koreans.  Is this true?? 

I'm not trying to start s**t, I'm just really really curious since this doesn't seem to be the case in Canada.(I'm korean btw) 


I don't speak for all the members of the African Diaspora and neither does Ice Cube (he spewed a lot of hate music back in the mid-90s when he apparently became part of the Nation of Islam...however; I think he's matured since then).  Please don't assume that all blacks harbor hate for any group of people.  In regards to Korean immigrants, I think many blacks have come to admire the thriving business presence Koreans hold in black communities throughout America.

Also, it's pretty safe to say that people (black, white, brown, etc) like or dislike individuals and not entire ethnic groups.  Therefore, if you're having problems with blacks personally, consider your own disposition, personality, or behaviors.  A warm smile and compliment will win over just about anyone. :-)

I tend to agree. I think people tend to be prejudice  against people who obtain more than them. I think it has more to do with jealousy, but attacking their race becomes easier, because attacking what they have is admitting to your own feelings of inadequacy, and that is just much more difficult for humans. It requires a level of inner truth most of us are incapable of.

I think people who lack education tend to be racist whatever race, cultural, ethnicity, or nationality they are or are not. People also want to feel powerful in some situations and there have to be people who are doing worse off than you for you too look better than anyone (e.g. the rich look down on the poor a lot of the time). Finally, even younger people who were raised in a racist community who don't really dislike a particular race that they were taught to hate or look down upon, don't usually want the hassle or bad reputation that it would involve to closely associate with the other race.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: wwjd for a klondike bar on November 08, 2010, 06:06:02 AM
KUMUNGHORANGHI--There is a lot of truth to what you say. I'm white married to a Korean here in Korea. Koreans, here at least, are among the most racist group of people I've ever seen, and my wife admits it. They look down on all other Asians, and virtually anyone of "color".  But whites they seem to adore. All their ads in magazines and on TV feature whites, even though their market is Asian. But they do love hip-hop! I've never seen a bigger group of "black" Asians in my entire life. I talked to a friend of mine (black) who tried to get into a hip-hop club last  month, and was actually barred from entry. Ironic. No, any Korean (in Korea) who says that Koreans like blacks, or almost any other race, is a big fat liar.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: iludmik on December 22, 2010, 02:10:45 AM
I know this is a reply to a old post but oh wells

KUMUNGHORANGHI--There is a lot of truth to what you say. I'm white married to a Korean here in Korea. Koreans, here at least, are among the most racist group of people I've ever seen, and my wife admits it.
Your whole life you never felt discrimination living in America because your white and being spoon fed your whole life while u treat us like bunnies calling us kung fu masters, slant eyes, etc etc and dont get me started on how you portray us in the media. Now you know how it feels and are now your wondering why we are racist? Give me a fcking break u shitless fck. Korean's dislike foreingers is that u come into our country demanding this and demanding that and whining realize mothafcker this is Korea you respect our culture and our way of living or GTFO. Another example is that you come into our country getting cushy jobs like for a example a ESL teaching position with free apt's just because you can speak english even though 90% of you tards are not qualified to each while Korean's who study their whole life (studying way more than americans) and make bunnies wages and ontop of that your taking our women. Think outside of the box before speaking Jackass. Typical white guy with a asian fetish whining about the Korean culture..

This is how most Korean men view this. Im not speaking for Korean-American white wash disgraces who cant even speak their own native language.

 
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They look down on all other Asians, and virtually anyone of "color"
Chinese = Helping North Korea and they are fcking loud.
Japanese = War & slavery.. most ppl Korean's seem to hate japanese the most. Everytime a sporting event happens that is "Korea vs Japan" everyone is talking about that bunnies.
Flips = Korean's view them as low class
Viet = same as above
Blacks = Korean's view them as low class, violent, scary, ugly
Hispanics = not really sure

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But whites they seem to adore. All their ads in magazines and on TV feature whites, even though their market is Asian.
Stop lying to yourself kiddo. I have lived half my life in South Korea and thats a fcking lie. All our ads features white people? Give me a fcking break i rarely i mean RARELY see a white person anywhere advertised in Korea, but ill give you 1 thing they do like white ppl then any other people of color.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: interrex on December 22, 2010, 09:29:34 AM
How could anyone "hate" this?....... :-*

http://mccrarey.com/2010/06/18/hot-and-sexy-world-cup-fans-visit-korea/

Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: musicgrl on December 31, 2010, 08:14:25 PM
I'm black and I do not hate Koreans. I think that the reason why that happened was because the black community was fed up with all the mess that was happening to them and they took it out on whoever was there, which just happened to be Koreans. Honestly, I feel that most some blacks are too busy hating the White Man to hate Koreans. A lot of blacks talk about how the "White Man" brings them down, as if they're some kind of supervillian. Yes, I realize that blacks do have a lot of social disadvantages that were brought upon them because of racism, but at the end of the day it's your life and you can still reach even a remote amount of success. Anyway, don't sweat the Korean issue. It's just the blacks trying to reciprocate the hate (lol) even to people that did nothing to them.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: MEMEMEME on January 01, 2011, 09:05:55 PM
Well, to be honest, a lot of white people are still talking about the "black man" behind close doors. These people are mostly blue collar and uneducated, but it's so common that it makes you wonder if civil rights ever happened...
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: Amicus Curiae on December 21, 2011, 10:07:31 PM
There is no evidence that any race of people hates some other race of people.

Some individuals of a particular race may hate another race. However, it is ridiculous to think that any entire race hates another race.

We may as well ask if Canadians hate bananas...

The question makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: Do Black People hate Koreans??
Post by: erickagrimes on December 24, 2011, 07:13:25 AM
It depends :) i have a Korean friend who's dating a Black guy  ;D I think they've been together for 1year.