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Title: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 13, 2005, 04:02:30 PM
By popular request (lol), I am starting the hair thread. Please come here and talk about your hair.  ;D 

Right now, my hair is natural. But last week it was pressed.

Do guys prefer natural hair or straight hair?

Ladies, do you prefer to have natural hair or straight hair?

Lets get this thread rolling . . .

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: dbgirl on July 13, 2005, 04:13:36 PM
I can't stand my hair because I don't have a lot of money and time to maintain it. I have a longish, very thick curly hair and can't seem to do a thing with it.
My boyfriend likes my hair curly and I'm sure it could be cute with lots of time and money.
I usually just wear it back, which makes me feel boring and frumpy. I used to get my hair done (straightened, colored) and spend a zillion dollars on it, but it was impractical and very time consuming. I have had braids before, I liked them pretty well. I'm thinking of doing that again.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: elegantpearl01 on July 13, 2005, 04:20:32 PM
I have lightly relaxed hair...I generally get a roller wrap every Friday. My hair is highlighted (my highlights are a 27)...I'm thinking about getting this hairstyle next..
(http://www.mtv.com/onair/trl/flipbooks/photobooth/images/photo_faith_evans.jpg)

I like natural hair, I just don't have the time to deal with my hair in it's natural state. My hair is thick/curly and the humidity in Florida makes it hard to maintain.

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 13, 2005, 04:32:24 PM
SMU  to answer your question from the other thread... I haven't combed my hair in almost three years because I have locs... I don't even have any combs in my house to be honest with you....

when I was deciding what I wanted to do with my hair .. locing vs staying natural I'd press it out every now and then but mostly wore an afro...

I did have a perm from age 15-20 though... I was on the swim team in high school and I got tired of dealing with the aftermath of having wet hair with a press :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Lawprofessor on July 13, 2005, 08:40:42 PM
I have an afro ;D  I love my women earthy (or so I am told) with locs.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 13, 2005, 09:16:46 PM
This hairstyle is very cute . . .

Please educate the illiterate one who has never been to a beauty shop . . .what exactly is a roller wrap?

I have lightly relaxed hair...I generally get a roller wrap every Friday. My hair is highlighted (my highlights are a 27)...I'm thinking about getting this hairstyle next..
(http://www.mtv.com/onair/trl/flipbooks/photobooth/images/photo_faith_evans.jpg)

I like natural hair, I just don't have the time to deal with my hair in it's natural state. My hair is thick/curly and the humidity in Florida makes it hard to maintain.


Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 13, 2005, 09:24:13 PM
I like my hair however I want it to look on a given day, curly, straight or whatever.  Though, I admit, I play with my hair in the winter a lot more than I do in the summer. Most of the time my hair is braided back into a bun in the summer (like in my current avatar) or in a ponytail on top of my head . . .its just too hot to do anything with.  But when it starts to cool off, I'll straighten it out more because it will be cold enough to stay straight for more than 2 hours.  :-\  Then I will be in everything from twists to braids to curls to . . . whatever I feel like.  :)

BTW, I think guys like curly hair. I think girls like straight hair (or curly hair) depending on how much they can work with it. If its too thick and curly, then girls don't like it. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: HBCU.EDU on July 13, 2005, 09:41:01 PM
(http://www.sportshair.com/images/dimitri_young.jpg)

I'm going to try something new for SU Law. 18 days!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: seu2002 on July 13, 2005, 11:32:49 PM
(http://www.sportshair.com/images/dimitri_young.jpg)

I'm going to try something new for SU Law. 18 days!


rofl!  you're a fool!  and 18 days to what anyway?   ???



i have thick, long, wavy hair that i usually just straighten.  if i don't it turns into a curly mess, which, given the right hair product, also works well for me.  but damn this heat and this humidity!!  damn!

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: elegantpearl01 on July 14, 2005, 03:45:32 AM
SMU, a roller wrap (also known as a doobie) is where the beautician rolls your wet hair on the biggest rollers possible, puts you under the dryer until dry. After your hair is dry, she combs the curls into the classic wrap behive, clips pins to keep the hair up and puts you under a cool dryer. The result is straight hair with a bounce.  The Dominicans do this style on natural hair, but after removing the rollers, they take a round brush and a blow dryer to straighten the hair.

I think guys like girls  long hair, whether it be natural, curly, straight.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 14, 2005, 06:15:50 AM
Thanks elegant! :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 14, 2005, 07:01:34 AM
back in the perm days.. I used to hate feeling that I needed a touch-up every now and then... one of the best hair salons in the city happened to be around the corner from my high school (and down the street from my house) so needless to say a lot of people were walking around with the same hair styles :-\

though I do believe that men can be judgmental about women's hair.. I think that women are more harsh towards other women who's hair styles aren't similar..whether it's natural or relaxed..

I've had some natural sistas treat women with perms as if they sold out...knowing that not even two yrs prior they had perms...it's something I call hair amnesia :D

some relaxed sistas can't fathom why a woman will get natural hair... when the hair can flow str8...

i admit that i do have a vice though....if your hair is the length of a small afro.. whether str8 or natural... STOP trying to put your hair into a pony tail :-[

--

here's a question.. why are women with natural hair unstr8ened labeled as feminists or lesbians?? i don't get that....
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 14, 2005, 07:18:36 AM
lol at that small afro comment, blk. its true, though.  it just looks unkempt and silly.

I try not to judge other people's hairstyles.  As long as they are well maintained, whether natural or straight, its cool.

I do think men have their hair preferences. Most men that I have encountered like long hair, I think elegant's comment was on point.

Women with unstraightened hair are labeled feminists or lesbians I think just as a general stereotype. Somehow people claim that straight hair is the "norm." If you aren't abiding by this norm and spending lots of time making your hair do something that it might or might not do, then you are somehow less of a woman, because you should be doing this in order to fit in with most of the other heterosexual women.  I think its just another stereotype that doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 14, 2005, 07:31:00 AM
men have preferences... they don't want to be with a woman that goes to the same barber that they go to.. :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 07:44:38 AM
hmmmmmmmmm, i dunno about this thread....

A doobie where i'm from is the same thing as a wrap, and a roller wrap is known as a roller set, these are NY/northeast terms....

i decided to go natural half way through undergrad b/c i was tired of commiting myself to somebody else's "norm" and why fight my hair and what God gave me??? not to mention the fact that the same chemicals found in a perm can be found in the solutions under one's kitchen sink.....although it was hard for me to transition and cut off my hair (it was down to my bra strap) i'm glad i did it, b/c i'll never have to worry about breakage, over processing, being late for a touch up, or anything thing that comes with a perm......and if i do feel like "swinging it like a white girl" i can get a blow out...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 14, 2005, 07:51:41 AM
hair is such a black woman's obsession. i have close friends who are not black and they're always amazed at how much black women can talk about hair. i grew up with natural hair. my parents didn't want my hair to be colonized :) when i got to college i got a permanent because all throughout school all of the girls i knew had perms. i decided to get one to be like what i thought all of the other girls would be like. boy was i surprised, the northeast and the midwest couldn't have been more different in that regard. nearly all of my friends had natural hair, and even the ones with perms had braids while we were in school. i cut my hair down to a short boy cut and let it grow back natural. i hated having a perm anyway, i didn't know what to do with it and i didn't like spending money on going to the hairdresser just so it would look presentable.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: HBCU.EDU on July 14, 2005, 07:52:51 AM
smu- In 18 days I'll be on my way to Baton Rouge. Getting the freak out of sacramento! 

I don’t' know if someone answered my question but I'll ask again. I never hear black men with long natural hair b*tch and complain about how hard it is to take care of their hair. Why is that? They just do it and normally it looks nice and well kept.  Why do sistas go through this sh*t like "ohhh...it hurts so baddd...ooooh it's soo hard to manage so I got a perm?"     
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: YoungIke on July 14, 2005, 07:55:15 AM
smu- In 18 days I'll be on my way to Baton Rouge. Getting the freak out of sacramento!

I don’t' know if someone answered my question but I'll ask again. I never hear black men with long natural hair b*tch and complain about how hard it is to take care of their hair. Why is that? They just do it and normally it looks nice and well kept. Why do sistas with perms go through this sh*t like "ohhh...it hurts so baddd...ooooh it's soo hard to manage so I got a perm?"

WoW, you gave me a new sense of inner strength with this post. I was stearing clear of this thread! Keep hope alive! Long live the masculinist movement!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: HBCU.EDU on July 14, 2005, 07:57:46 AM
men have preferences... they don't want to be with a woman that goes to the same barber that they go to.. :D

lol..that's funny. But, I would not mind at all. It's cool. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 14, 2005, 09:32:30 AM
Hi. My mom bought me some molding creme by Isoplus. It works for me. That is all.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: elegantpearl01 on July 14, 2005, 09:47:30 AM
I think as long as your hair is healthy and in a flattering style, that's all that matters. For me, I like long flowing hair, but there are some sisters who rock the naturals. Having a relaxer is so much easier, because Iknow every day my hair is going to be straight, unless I air dry it and wear it curly.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 10:12:31 AM
locs
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 14, 2005, 10:28:45 AM
Locs or back to the creamy crack?  That's my real dilemma.  I love braids but that ish gets expensive.  I was doing my own relaxer for 6 yrs before giving it up...  I'm leaning locs though.  Just need to get some $$ for a good loctitian.

locs
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 14, 2005, 10:33:05 AM
locs
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 14, 2005, 10:33:23 AM
i say locs mobell. but i have natural hair and don't have locs and don't wear braids. i wear flat-twists, two-strand twists, afro-puffs, and sometimes i wear it just crazy all over my head with a head band. i don't do that often though.

ep--you think relaxers are easier b/c thats what you're used to. i think naturals are easier b/c i don't have to deal with wrapping my hair up every night to preserve the wrap, i don't have to worry about touch ups, and i don't have to worry about rain messing up my hair style. its all about perspective. one of my friends used to have a relaxer b/c she said it was easier. now she has those comb twists and she thinks its super easy. i think either way can be low maintenance.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 10:40:41 AM
don't get mad at me faith, nah never mind i won't blow you up
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 14, 2005, 10:43:07 AM
freeze everyone..

smu.. did u say u've never been to a salon before? :o
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 14, 2005, 10:46:33 AM
LMAO...

Yes, I have never been to a salon before. When I was growing up, we never had money for that kind of thing, and as I got older, I just started to like doing my own hair . . .

Hi everyone.  My name is smujd2007 and I have never been to a salon!!!!!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 14, 2005, 10:47:14 AM
huh? what? my hair is busted?  :D

don't get mad at me faith, nah never mind i won't blow you up
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 14, 2005, 10:49:55 AM
Locs or back to the creamy crack?  That's my real dilemma.  I love braids but that ish gets expensive.  I was doing my own relaxer for 6 yrs before giving it up...  I'm leaning locs though.  Just need to get some $$ for a good loctitian.

locs

What's up RBG?  It's sad without you around lately.  Don't let Seu steal you away from us completely. ;)

I'm surprised you voted locs.  Why?

Aww. That's sweet. And btw, Seu ain't got that kinda' power homie. I's still free ;).

You shouldn't be surprised I voted locs. All things being equal, I think natural hairstyles look better on most black women.

(http://naturalspabeauty.com/IMG_9558.JPG)

you should be able to rock that.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 10:52:13 AM
no not at all, don't kill me for saying this ppl, no i'll be PC about it, faith doesn't need a perm anywho her hair's damn near straight on it's own........

smu, it's all good as long as you keep your ends trimmed on a regular basis


huh? what? my hair is busted?  :D

don't get mad at me faith, nah never mind i won't blow you up
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 14, 2005, 10:53:18 AM
that's how my hair looks right now... same color.. a little shorter though... if you corn row or roll your locs at night..the next morning they'll be curly with that extra bounce.. i love it :)

--

smu I feel you... one day you should go to get pampered though... especially after a rough final :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 14, 2005, 10:57:03 AM
BOOOOOOOO lex BOOOOOOOOO! I could say the same about your hair if thats the case!  :P

no not at all, don't kill me for saying this ppl, no i'll be PC about it, faith doesn't need a perm anywho her hair's damn near straight on it's own........

smu, it's all good as long as you keep your ends trimmed on a regular basis


huh? what? my hair is busted?  :D

don't get mad at me faith, nah never mind i won't blow you up
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 14, 2005, 10:58:31 AM
(http://www.erinjackson.net/IMAGES/med2.gif)


mobell, what about getting that pre-teen almost-jheri curl that every black girl had at one time?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 10:59:26 AM
no you couldn't "i fro like dat & curl like dat"  :P

BOOOOOOOO lex BOOOOOOOOO! I could say the same about your hair if thats the case!  :P

no not at all, don't kill me for saying this ppl, no i'll be PC about it, faith doesn't need a perm anywho her hair's damn near straight on it's own........

smu, it's all good as long as you keep your ends trimmed on a regular basis


huh? what? my hair is busted?  :D

don't get mad at me faith, nah never mind i won't blow you up
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 14, 2005, 11:02:29 AM
rbg--i haven't seen you online so I didn't say anything. that avatar you suggested for the person with the sn darkie was hilarious. lol! btw--i neva had a jheri curl!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 14, 2005, 11:04:56 AM
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(http://www.erinjackson.net/IMAGES/med2.gif)


mobell, what about getting that pre-teen almost-jheri curl that every black girl had at one time?

'Cause I had the real jheri curl.  And it was truly awful :o :'(

I like that loc picture.  I love locs at their best; I'm just afraid mine will turn out busted.  And since there's no going back... :-\

you had a curl? oh sh!t! I want pictures.

rbg--i haven't seen you online so I didn't say anything. that avatar you suggested for the person with the sn darkie was hilarious. lol! btw--i neva had a jheri curl!

 :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 14, 2005, 11:05:42 AM
not every black girl had that >:(

(http://www.erinjackson.net/IMAGES/med2.gif)


mobell, what about getting that pre-teen almost-jheri curl that every black girl had at one time?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 14, 2005, 11:08:33 AM
Mob..the only way your locs would be busted is if you didn't take care of them..and even then there's a way to repair them...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 11:12:13 AM
i didn't have any type of curl rbg, you probably did though  ;D......
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 14, 2005, 11:13:45 AM
not every black girl had that >:(

(http://www.erinjackson.net/IMAGES/med2.gif)


mobell, what about getting that pre-teen almost-jheri curl that every black girl had at one time?

you did
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 14, 2005, 11:15:13 AM
i didn't have any type of curl rbg, you probably did though  ;D......

my hair is only wet coming out the shower, homie. rbg don't get greasy.  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: dbgirl on July 14, 2005, 11:15:49 AM
On one of my rare childhood trips to a salon my mother got me a jeri curl -- the stylist swore it was an a easy-to-maintain style and that I could wear it straight if I wanted.
Anyway, it looked terrible. My hair half-broke off and the solution stuff you put on it stank.

I would rather have wear my hair naturally curly than have it chemically straightened and then chemically curled. I'm pretty sure that's how they did it.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 14, 2005, 11:19:51 AM
you had a curl? oh sh!t! I want pictures.

I have some hair pics that would make everyone on BLSD's heads spin.  But I'll be keeping those in the fam.  If those get out, I'm ruined! ;) :D

but we are fam, homie.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 14, 2005, 11:20:54 AM
never that.. .maybe that's how they get down in your neck of the woods... you and your first girlfriend spent romantic days wiping the curl juice from each others brow :D

not every black girl had that >:(

(http://www.erinjackson.net/IMAGES/med2.gif)


mobell, what about getting that pre-teen almost-jheri curl that every black girl had at one time?

you did
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 14, 2005, 11:22:20 AM
Man .. . I didn't have that curl, but I knew some people who did. :D

not every black girl had that >:(

(http://www.erinjackson.net/IMAGES/med2.gif)


mobell, what about getting that pre-teen almost-jheri curl that every black girl had at one time?

you did
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 11:23:10 AM
lol, comming to america "soul glo" or something like that

never that.. .maybe that's how they get down in your neck of the woods... you and your first girlfriend spent romantic days wiping the curl juice from each others brow :D

not every black girl had that >:(

(http://www.erinjackson.net/IMAGES/med2.gif)


mobell, what about getting that pre-teen almost-jheri curl that every black girl had at one time?

you did
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 14, 2005, 11:26:48 AM
never that.. .maybe that's how they get down in your neck of the woods... you and your first girlfriend spent romantic days wiping the curl juice from each others brow :D

not every black girl had that >:(

(http://www.erinjackson.net/IMAGES/med2.gif)


mobell, what about getting that pre-teen almost-jheri curl that every black girl had at one time?

you did

please. you know me. I don't wife 'em; I trife 'em.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 14, 2005, 11:27:50 AM
why did you post that poor girl's picture? why?!  :D :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 14, 2005, 11:31:03 AM
why did you post that poor girl's picture? why?!  :D :D

I blame the parents. How do people let their children fall victim to drugs, alcohol and overly wet hairstyles? I don't get it.  :-\
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 14, 2005, 11:35:36 AM
 :D.. between the curl and the 500 beads with the aluminum foil on the end... kids of our generation had it bad... thank God my folks didn't make me wear either of those styles... those girls would get headaches when they jumped rope with those beads in their hair

why did you post that poor girl's picture? why?!  :D :D

I blame the parents. How do people let their children fall victim to drugs, alcohol and overly wet hairstyles? I don't get it.  :-\
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: elegantpearl01 on July 14, 2005, 11:39:38 AM
Smu...I can't believe you have never been to a salon, my mom and I go every week.

I live in Florida, I transitioned for about 8 months, the humidity is no joke down here.  My hair isn't relaxed bone straight, but it's relaxed.

I like the looks of locs, but I don't like them for me...it may be un PC to say, but everystyle aint for everybody.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 14, 2005, 11:50:20 AM
Those beads were terrible . . . .I always wanted them but my mom would never put them on me. She would braid my hair and just leave it hanging down. Since it wasn't permanently straightened it would stay that way.  I always felt left out . . .  :-\
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 14, 2005, 11:53:51 AM
i had the braids with beads and rubber bands on the instead of foil. i liked them!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 14, 2005, 11:56:20 AM
http://www.roshini.net/index.html
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 14, 2005, 11:57:34 AM
ok I admit it I once rocked the "wave nouveau"---slightly less greasy jheri  :-[
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 14, 2005, 12:11:33 PM
NOOOOOO not the wave nouveau. Boooooo! My hairdresser tried to convince me to get one of those when I cut my hair. she was like, you don't know what it'll look like faith, just try the wave nouveau. i asked, what is it? she said, a texturizer, it'll give it a nice curl. when she said "nice curl" i said, under no circumstances are you to put that wave nouveau in my hair!  :D i just cut it and had a short curly afro.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 14, 2005, 12:13:31 PM
what do you ladies think about dudes with s-curls?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 12:15:30 PM
i think that's where it's at rbg......sike, it can look good if it's like a p. diddy s-culr but not a lot of hair curly curl s- curl
what do you ladies think about dudes with s-curls?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 14, 2005, 12:18:29 PM
NOOOOOO not the wave nouveau. Boooooo! My hairdresser tried to convince me to get one of those when I cut my hair. she was like, you don't know what it'll look like faith, just try the wave nouveau. i asked, what is it? she said, a texturizer, it'll give it a nice curl. when she said "nice curl" i said, under no circumstances are you to put that wave nouveau in my hair!  :D i just cut it and had a short curly afro.

lmao.  yeah so you understand I will not be cutting my hair again. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: MsJay9 on July 14, 2005, 12:18:40 PM
Hey people...


Awww Man Blk, I love beads......My baby is one of the girls you are talking about and I was one too....the only difference is that I put bands on the end to hold the beads b/c I remember that the foil use to let the beads come off sometmes.  :D :-\
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 12:19:42 PM
hey ms jay!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: MsJay9 on July 14, 2005, 12:24:39 PM
Hey Lex....I am sneaking on here!   ;)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 12:25:14 PM
ms. jay wants to go natural like her bg....... ;D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 14, 2005, 12:26:59 PM
hey msjay.

y'all check out the website I posted. Its one girl from nappturality's website. Its like her online hair journal. I wish my hair would get longer like hers...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 12:37:29 PM
my hair is very similar, maybe i can learn something new.....

in fact i need to twist it, so i'l stop playing with it, but i am in desperate need of a trim, but ol' girl left the damn country for a week
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 14, 2005, 12:59:00 PM
so ladies..how do you wear your hair when you go out to a formal or semi formal event?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 12:59:30 PM
depends, throw out an event example
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 14, 2005, 01:00:08 PM
so ladies..how do you wear your hair when you go out to a formal or semi formal event?

I avoid such events.  Sorry.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 14, 2005, 01:02:32 PM
i guess i just wear my hair in twists. but on that website i saw how she put her twists into a french roll and curled the front and i'm excited to try it. somebody plan a wedding so i can wear my hair like that!!!! i've been to 2 this summer already, but i don't know about anymore taking place. :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 01:05:21 PM
gee faith you could have taken my place at my friend's wedding if i'd known you like em like that, next time though i have a feeling someone else i know will be asking me the question no one can say no to
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 14, 2005, 01:07:11 PM
gee faith you could have taken my place at my friend's wedding if i'd known you like em like that, next time though i have a feeling someone else i know will be asking me the question no one can say no to

what question is that?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 01:09:09 PM
will you be in my wedding??? can't say no unless you're gonna be outta the country or in jail and even then you'll feel compelled to get back for it or arrange soemthing with the warden
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 14, 2005, 01:12:24 PM
say "actually God told me to participate in your next one"  I think that would solve your problem  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 01:15:45 PM
ahhhhh, i'd probably make somebody cry with that one, buti'll take note of it....

say "actually God told me to participate in your next one"  I think that would solve your problem  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 14, 2005, 01:24:22 PM
ahhhhh, i'd probably make somebody cry with that one, buti'll take note of it....

say "actually God told me to participate in your next one"  I think that would solve your problem  :D

yeah that was kinda wrong.  sorry about that
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 14, 2005, 01:28:58 PM
that is hilarious....


say "actually God told me to participate in your next one"  I think that would solve your problem  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: HBCU.EDU on July 14, 2005, 01:46:44 PM
(http://store1.yimg.com/I/ebonyline51_1846_2523895)


I've got an s-curl. I hate sleeping on my hands at night but it works for me.  :-\
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 14, 2005, 01:50:14 PM
ok, i looked at the poll results. someone had an afro and hated it? why?  :'(
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 02:03:06 PM
a lurker or jerk probably faith ::)

ok, i looked at the poll results. someone had an afro and hated it? why?  :'(
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 14, 2005, 02:04:56 PM
lol lex. whateva!  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 02:12:07 PM
just a guess, maybe not and if so i didn't mean to offend anyone  :-[
lol lex. whateva!  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 14, 2005, 02:15:10 PM
oh no, you didn't offend me. i misread the post. i thought you were saying it was probably me. i was like, No way silly  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 02:16:22 PM
ohhh, yeah that would have been funny, darn...i'm not witty enough  :'(
oh no, you didn't offend me. i misread the post. i thought you were saying it was probably me. i was like, No way silly  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 14, 2005, 02:25:36 PM
ohhh, yeah that would have been funny, darn...i'm not witty enough  :'(
oh no, you didn't offend me. i misread the post. i thought you were saying it was probably me. i was like, No way silly  :D

I can help you with that if you want me to
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 14, 2005, 02:34:04 PM
ok, i'm down, what's first

ohhh, yeah that would have been funny, darn...i'm not witty enough  :'(
oh no, you didn't offend me. i misread the post. i thought you were saying it was probably me. i was like, No way silly  :D

I can help you with that if you want me to
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on July 14, 2005, 03:16:14 PM
say "actually God told me to participate in your next one"  I think that would solve your problem  :D

LOL! :D  Good one.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 14, 2005, 03:59:23 PM
Depends on the time of year.

If its summer, most of the time I'll wear a french roll with a few strands pulled out, or a bun at the top of my head with a few strands pulled out.

If its winter, I'm more likely to straighten my hair out, press my hair really hard, and just part it on one side with some clips that match my outfit. 

so ladies..how do you wear your hair when you go out to a formal or semi formal event?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 14, 2005, 05:45:22 PM
If I had to go to a formal now, I'd put on a wig and make sure it's pinned down well!

lmao
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ScurvyWench on July 14, 2005, 08:30:10 PM
I have lightly relaxed hair...I generally get a roller wrap every Friday. My hair is highlighted (my highlights are a 27)...I'm thinking about getting this hairstyle next..
(http://www.mtv.com/onair/trl/flipbooks/photobooth/images/photo_faith_evans.jpg)

I like natural hair, I just don't have the time to deal with my hair in it's natural state. My hair is thick/curly and the humidity in Florida makes it hard to maintain.



Yay, hair thread! :)

I couldn't have said it better.

I use a children's relaxer on my hair and I "do" it every Sunday. I wear it up in some form or another 98% of the time. My hair is highlighted with a chestnut brown and I'd say that it's long. Since I cut it, it's about 6 inches above my waist.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ScurvyWench on July 14, 2005, 08:36:54 PM
Man, blk! My cousins in the south had those. They couldn't sneak out of the house because they made such noise with those beads! ;D I had little braids once. Other than that, I've always had french braids, braided pigtails, etc. I've never had my hair super short--but I've always wanted to!

:D.. between the curl and the 500 beads with the aluminum foil on the end... kids of our generation had it bad... thank God my folks didn't make me wear either of those styles... those girls would get headaches when they jumped rope with those beads in their hair

why did you post that poor girl's picture? why?!  :D :D

I blame the parents. How do people let their children fall victim to drugs, alcohol and overly wet hairstyles? I don't get it.  :-\
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: elegantpearl01 on July 14, 2005, 08:48:01 PM
I just took a picture of my hair do I got today..see avatar...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Jwebony956 on July 14, 2005, 08:49:29 PM
I have Type 4a relaxed hair and its around midback. I self-relax and take care of my own hair unless its a special occasion then I go to the Dominicans (they are da bomb!). I also always wear my hair in protective styles (buns, french rolls, pinned updo, etc.)


What kind of products do you use on your hair (including shampoos, conditioners, moisturizers, etc)?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ScurvyWench on July 14, 2005, 08:50:25 PM
I just took a picture of my hair do I got today..see avatar...

Ooh! Nice! In a few weeks, tell me if it's difficult to keep up. I love it and I might have to copy you! But in the end, laziness always wins out over fashion when it comes to my hair.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ScurvyWench on July 14, 2005, 08:53:25 PM
I have Type 4a relaxed hair and its around midback. I self-relax and take care of my own hair unless its a special occasion then I go to the Dominicans (they are da bomb!). I also always wear my hair in protective styles (buns, french rolls, pinned updo, etc.)


What kind of products do you use on your hair (including shampoos, conditioners, moisturizers, etc)?

I, too, self-relax. I use Just4Kids relaxer. Dove Intense Moisture Shampoo and Conditioner. Blot dry. Frizz-Eaze Extra Strenght to comb out. Air dry in buns. Then I usually blow dry the next day with an Ion Shine Blow Dryer (dries faster and straighter with less heat). After I blow it out, I use TCB Naturals oil on the scalp and lightly throughout the hair. I blow dry it to melt/smooth it and put it in a bun.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 14, 2005, 08:55:24 PM
I just took a picture of my hair do I got today..see avatar...

finally we see Ms. Pearl.   :D  I like your hair style.  what is it called?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: elegantpearl01 on July 14, 2005, 08:58:00 PM
Thanx Scurvy....Scurvy it's not hard...just requires a flat iron...I like the Chi ceramic flat iron..it's expensive but not that harsh on your hair...

Jwe, I go to the salon regularly, but for leave in conditioners, I love Salerm 21

http://www.metrobeauty.com/showitem.cfm?catnum=191&parentcatnum=0&itemnum=1381

I love Dominican Conditioners

http://store.sickbay.biz/haircare.html



Shampoos, I am a big fan of Paul Mitchell Tea Tree and Deep Brilliance

E...I was in the other pic too...it's not as close...thanks ...I don't know I just took a picture of faith evans in and told my stylist to recreate it.  She layered my hair, which I think is key.



Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Made4law on July 14, 2005, 09:00:57 PM
I just took a picture of my hair do I got today..see avatar...

Oooh, EPearl...Good Look, I like it, Sexy yet Sophisticated. ;)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 14, 2005, 09:05:56 PM
nice do, elegant. its sassy, got a little bit of attitude.  :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: elegantpearl01 on July 14, 2005, 09:08:41 PM
thanks ya'll i'm blushing...i'll resist pulling it into a bun
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 14, 2005, 09:10:36 PM
Hair products . . . .

My thermasilk shampoo and conditioner has been my best friend.  I started using it in January and my split ends are virtually nonexistent.  Once a week I leave mane and tail conditioner in my hair--I probably shampoo more than most people (3-4 times a week in the summer 2-3 times a week in the winter).

I use dax pomade when I braid my hair. It stays in place longer.

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: elegantpearl01 on July 14, 2005, 09:12:40 PM
You do shampoo a lot...have any of you all tried carol's daughter products..i like a lot of the stuff, but a few products have some heavy smells
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 14, 2005, 09:17:58 PM
My hair is easiest to manage when its really clean or really dirty. If it gets too dirty (4-5 days without washing), I start to break out.

I've never tried carol daughter's products.

Elegant, no buns allowed!!!  When you've got a style like that, you have to rock it, even if you are just wearing a t shirt and blue jeans.  :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Made4law on July 14, 2005, 09:27:36 PM
Hair products . . . .

My thermasilk shampoo and conditioner has been my best friend.  I started using it in January and my split ends are virtually nonexistent.  Once a week I leave mane and tail conditioner in my hair--I probably shampoo more than most people (3-4 times a week in the summer 2-3 times a week in the winter).

I use dax pomade when I braid my hair. It stays in place longer.



SMU, I knew I find something that we have in common, besides the obvious ;)  I to use Dax pomade, it is much better than murray's.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 14, 2005, 09:29:58 PM
lol made. Murrays pomade is too sticky for me. Dax does the job and I can still brush it through my hair instead of it just sticking to the area where I placed it.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: elegantpearl01 on July 14, 2005, 09:44:32 PM
Ok no buns...but I got on some jeans, high heeled sandals and a button up, with the ethnic jewelry..bout to leave the house for a sec
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 14, 2005, 09:49:36 PM
If I had to go to a formal now, I'd put on a wig and make sure it's pinned down well!

lmao

I actually have a wig that I've been wearing around town.  People like it

lets see a pic.  

btw my vote is for whatever keeps your hair healthy and full...might as well try the locs that way you can lean on blk, faith, and lex for advice.

For the lovely ladies of blsd  :-*
(http://www.afroshop.info/shop/catalog/images/darklovelyrelaxersuper.jpg)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 14, 2005, 09:50:23 PM
Uh oh  .. . .elegants about to go catch a man looking like that . . .(lol). Have fun and be careful.  :) ;)

Ok no buns...but I got on some jeans, high heeled sandals and a button up, with the ethnic jewelry..bout to leave the house for a sec
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 14, 2005, 09:53:15 PM
Ok no buns...but I got on some jeans, high heeled sandals and a button up, with the ethnic jewelry..bout to leave the house for a sec

young lady it is 1am.  Don't go borrowing trouble  >:(
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 14, 2005, 10:22:58 PM
If I had to go to a formal now, I'd put on a wig and make sure it's pinned down well!

lmao

I actually have a wig that I've been wearing around town.  People like it

lets see a pic. 

btw my vote is for whatever keeps your hair healthy and full...might as well try the locs that way you can lean on blk, faith, and lex for advice.

For the lovely ladies of blsd  :-*
(http://www.afroshop.info/shop/catalog/images/darklovelyrelaxersuper.jpg)

I don't take pictures of myself.  You know that.

I thought you told me I'd look a "hot mess" with locs? ???  Don't make me call you out! ;)

I don't believe I said that and if I did I've repented.  Be Natural and keep a smile in your heart.  ;D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Made4law on July 14, 2005, 10:28:29 PM
Ok no buns...but I got on some jeans, high heeled sandals and a button up, with the ethnic jewelry..bout to leave the house for a sec

young lady it is 1am.  Don't go borrowing trouble  >:(

My mama told me, "boy ain't nuthin open after 1 am but hospitals and legs" :o :o I was 16 years old then though. ;)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 14, 2005, 11:36:17 PM
I'm too scared to self relax. How do you relax the back of your head? Also my scalp is too sensitive for relaxers. But my hair won't hold a kids relaxer. I hope I get a decent paying job as a lawyer so I can afford to go to the salon every week.


I, too, self-relax. I use Just4Kids relaxer. Dove Intense Moisture Shampoo and Conditioner. Blot dry. Frizz-Eaze Extra Strenght to comb out. Air dry in buns. Then I usually blow dry the next day with an Ion Shine Blow Dryer (dries faster and straighter with less heat). After I blow it out, I use TCB Naturals oil on the scalp and lightly throughout the hair. I blow dry it to melt/smooth it and put it in a bun.
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Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 14, 2005, 11:37:11 PM
Your hair looks great.

I just took a picture of my hair do I got today..see avatar...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 14, 2005, 11:47:23 PM
I like the new Pantene line for black women. I will have to try the Thermasilk and Paul Mitchell lines. Does anyone use Cholesterol for deep conditioning?

And can someone recommend a good but cheap wrap lotion? What's the name of the conditioner you leave in your hair, SMU?  Does anyone use Infusium leave in conditoner?

Sorry for all the questions. Since moving to Houston, I had to change the products I use on my hair and face. So I'm trying to get an idea of what works in this humidity.

Hair products . . . .

My thermasilk shampoo and conditioner has been my best friend.  I started using it in January and my split ends are virtually nonexistent.  Once a week I leave mane and tail conditioner in my hair--I probably shampoo more than most people (3-4 times a week in the summer 2-3 times a week in the winter).

I use dax pomade when I braid my hair. It stays in place longer.


Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 15, 2005, 05:57:07 AM
I love Nexxus moisturizing shampoo and the Humectress Ultimate Moisturizing Conditioner.......I use carol's daughter's hair milk which is very light and smells like lilacs and her mimosa honey to twist my hair which smells like mangos and can also be used as a pomade/wax, but the products keep getting more and more expensive  :-[
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 15, 2005, 06:56:57 AM
i've never used any of this carol's daughter stuff. i need to do something though, my hair is always dry. :( i like the picture elegant. i like your picture too lex :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 15, 2005, 07:03:05 AM
faith the mimosa hair honey is off the chain, you gotta get some!!!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 15, 2005, 07:28:10 AM
i use target brand shampoo and conditioner ;D..

I kid..

Paul Mitchell products.. the tea tree line.. either Paul Mitchell Wax Works or PM Pomade oil to twist my roots

I use a shea butter oil sheen for the shine..

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 15, 2005, 07:57:36 AM
I think I need to start spending more money on my hair products. Maybe that's why my hair is always so dry and frizzy. I always wanted to try the Paul Mitchell Tea Tree Line so maybe I will give it a try. Blk, where you do buy your hair products? Do you buy it at Sally's? None of you wrap your hair? No one has said anything about wrapping lotion.  :(

i use target brand shampoo and conditioner ;D..

I kid..

Paul Mitchell products.. the tea tree line.. either Paul Mitchell Wax Works or PM Pomade oil to twist my roots

I use a shea butter oil sheen for the shine..


Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 15, 2005, 08:06:16 AM
sally's has a line of "generic" products that have the same ingrdiants of the paul mitchell, nexxus etc products for a third the price....i love paul mitchell's detangler too

I think I need to start spending more money on my hair products. Maybe that's why my hair is always so dry and frizzy. I always wanted to try the Paul Mitchell Tea Tree Line so maybe I will give it a try. Blk, where you do buy your hair products? Do you buy it at Sally's? None of you wrap your hair? No one has said anything about wrapping lotion.  :(

i use target brand shampoo and conditioner ;D..

I kid..

Paul Mitchell products.. the tea tree line.. either Paul Mitchell Wax Works or PM Pomade oil to twist my roots

I use a shea butter oil sheen for the shine..


Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 15, 2005, 08:07:15 AM
i use target brand shampoo and conditioner ;D..

I kid..

Paul Mitchell products.. the tea tree line.. either Paul Mitchell Wax Works or PM Pomade oil to twist my roots

I use a shea butter oil sheen for the shine..



come on reign we know you are too bougie for Tar Jay
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 15, 2005, 08:21:50 AM
i have locs... even when i had a perm i didn't do wraps- call it lazy :D.. i actually get my products at Ulta.. since you're in NW there isn't one far from you


I think I need to start spending more money on my hair products. Maybe that's why my hair is always so dry and frizzy. I always wanted to try the Paul Mitchell Tea Tree Line so maybe I will give it a try. Blk, where you do buy your hair products? Do you buy it at Sally's? None of you wrap your hair? No one has said anything about wrapping lotion.  :(

i use target brand shampoo and conditioner ;D..

I kid..

Paul Mitchell products.. the tea tree line.. either Paul Mitchell Wax Works or PM Pomade oil to twist my roots

I use a shea butter oil sheen for the shine..


Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 15, 2005, 08:30:51 AM
what's this Ulta yu speak of blk....and when my hair was straight i used to be the queen of wraps, my doobie was tiiiiiggghhht boy
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 15, 2005, 09:14:28 AM
Ulta is like a Sequoia for hair.. that's the best way I can put it  :D.. they have a salon in the back typically for the non-minorities  ;)

http://www.ulta.com/

what's this Ulta yu speak of blk....and when my hair was straight i used to be the queen of wraps, my doobie was tiiiiiggghhht boy
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 15, 2005, 09:20:12 AM
good looks
Ulta is like a Sequoia for hair.. that's the best way I can put it  :D.. they have a salon in the back typically for the non-minorities  ;)

http://www.ulta.com/

what's this Ulta yu speak of blk....and when my hair was straight i used to be the queen of wraps, my doobie was tiiiiiggghhht boy
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 15, 2005, 09:22:53 AM
whoa, that mimosa hair honey you wrote about is $25 lex. i don't think i can justify that to myself.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 15, 2005, 09:31:29 AM
for how big of a bottle, that's ridonculous, listen come through tomorrow and i'll hook ya up, damn carol, what about the little people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!who supported you in the begining >:( >:(

whoa, that mimosa hair honey you wrote about is $25 lex. i don't think i can justify that to myself.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Roxie on July 15, 2005, 09:33:57 AM
Ooohh - hair...my other favorite topic after men, shoes and make-up!!!  Sorry this is so long - I get so excited about hair!!!

I use a Revlon Fabulaxer.  I have been doing my own perms since I was in middle school.  You need a good 3 way mirror to do the back.  And get one of those brushes with a rat tail on the end to make neat parts and then brush the perm on your roots.  That makes doing it yourself much easier.

My hair is also dyed black. I use Natural Instinct in Midnight every time I get a touch up.  It is a rinse, so you can do it at the same time you perm.

Shampoo/Conditioner - I have tried them ALL.  I really didn't like the Paul Mitchell tea tree line.  My hairdresser used to use that, and I liked it cuz your scalp feels all tingly, but it really made my hair feel dry.  Now I use the Pantene or L'oreal regular lines, not the relaxed and natural.  I will also use Suave if I am in the mood for a nice fruity smell (or don't have any money!!). ;)

Wrap lotion - Lotta body all the way.  You have to mix it with water and use your own spray bottle.  I also use the TCB or Motions wrapping foam and a dab of Mousse (usually Suave).  To make sure everything stays in place, I use a dab of the really dark gel and comb that through.

Moisturizer - BB Grease.  I don't believe in a greasy head - but in the winter time, my scalp is really dry and that BB Grease will hook it up.  My hair is very healthy and grows super fast and I know that this is part of the reason.  I want to do a commercial for BB!!! 8)  In the summer months, I will just use some Wonder 8 oil from the drugstore...it is much lighter than grease.

Finally - the best thing of all - ISOPLUS oil Sheen Spray!!!  Every girl should have some of this, permed, natural or bald!!!

Oh - and for hairspray - Isoplus and Motions.  

Curling Irons - ConAir instant heat.  I don't really like the ceramic Irons.  And a Gold n Hot Flat iron (mini and regular sized).

Needless to say, my bathroom looks like a salon..... :P

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 15, 2005, 09:38:56 AM
 i mix the pm tea tree with some VO5 freesia shampoo... it balances out the texture and adds to the shine..

when I had a perm I used Aveda and Mizani shampoos and conditioners

i still use Aveda peppermint shampoo every now and then
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 15, 2005, 09:40:42 AM
i only delt with mizuni & affirm perms....and always went to the shop, i love my girls but i ain't going bald b/c of them and def didn't trust myself, y'all self-permers get much credit
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 15, 2005, 09:46:19 AM
i know that's right... i wouldn't be in anyone's kitchen getting my hair done :D .. one thing i don't miss though.. sitting around for hours in the salon.. .that was for the birds

i only delt with mizuni & affirm perms....and always went to the shop, i love my girls but i ain't going bald b/c of them and def didn't trust myself, y'all self-permers get much credit
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 15, 2005, 09:51:43 AM
I use Affirm and go to the shop too. I'm too scared to do the self perms and I don't want to go bald trying to figure it out. But I hate being in the salon for half the day.

I need Oprah and Mariah money so I can have my own hairdresser come to my house. Ah, big dreams.  :D

i only delt with mizuni & affirm perms....and always went to the shop, i love my girls but i ain't going bald b/c of them and def didn't trust myself, y'all self-permers get much credit
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 15, 2005, 09:55:09 AM
i use to hate that, my friend (white) came with me one time, and i wa like just drop me off and she's like no no, i'll wait, hahahaha, boy did she regret that one, lol, imagine shop on blue hill ave in boston (if you know you know) and one preppy white girl, lol

I use Affirm and go to the shop too. I'm too scared to do the self perms and I don't want to go bald trying to figure it out. But I hate being in the salon for half the day.

I need Oprah and Mariah money so I can have my own hairdresser come to my house. Ah, big dreams.  :D

i only delt with mizuni & affirm perms....and always went to the shop, i love my girls but i ain't going bald b/c of them and def didn't trust myself, y'all self-permers get much credit
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ScurvyWench on July 15, 2005, 09:58:46 AM
Never wrapped my hair in the str8 days.  Sorry blkhtw. :(

I don't wrap my hair either, sorry.

Honestly, I love the Dove. It's inexpensive and you can get it at Target. I recommended to my mom and cousins and they now swear by it. It's nice not to have to search high and low for the right shampoo.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 15, 2005, 10:05:08 AM
Ohhhh, blk.  I used to love ulta. My mom and I used to spend hours in there, but when we moved, there isn't one in this area.  :-\ I had forgotten about it until now!!!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ScurvyWench on July 15, 2005, 10:05:56 AM
i know that's right... i wouldn't be in anyone's kitchen getting my hair done :D .. one thing i don't miss though.. sitting around for hours in the salon.. .that was for the birds

i only delt with mizuni & affirm perms....and always went to the shop, i love my girls but i ain't going bald b/c of them and def didn't trust myself, y'all self-permers get much credit

I've been self-perming since junior high school when I got tired of my mom burning me. Besides the extra mirrors, the key to self perming is using enough base on your scalp and around your face. Sometimes, when I can't find the children's perm, I use Optimum Care Regular and I only leave it on for 10 minutes. It's pretty good since they put in the new extra step that protects the old hair.

My dorm room looked like a salon in college. Everyone came by my place on Saturdays to have their hair done--black, white, whatever. My only requirement was that you bring your own brush and buy your own products. If you wanted me to buy them for you, you'd have to give me money. Otherwise, it was all free. Honestly, it was like therapy.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Roxie on July 15, 2005, 10:10:20 AM
Scurv - What other step does Optimum have to protect your scalp?  I just use Vaseline as a base.  If my hair starts itching, I'll spray some Isoplus Oil Sheen on the itchy parts.  I only leave my perm on for 2 seconds though - so usually I don't have any problems...

i know that's right... i wouldn't be in anyone's kitchen getting my hair done :D .. one thing i don't miss though.. sitting around for hours in the salon.. .that was for the birds

i only delt with mizuni & affirm perms....and always went to the shop, i love my girls but i ain't going bald b/c of them and def didn't trust myself, y'all self-permers get much credit

I've been self-perming since junior high school when I got tired of my mom burning me. Besides the extra mirrors, the key to self perming is using enough base on your scalp and around your face. Sometimes, when I can't find the children's perm, I use Optimum Care Regular and I only leave it on for 10 minutes. It's pretty good since they put in the new extra step that protects the old hair.

My dorm room looked like a salon in college. Everyone came by my place on Saturdays to have their hair done--black, white, whatever. My only requirement was that you bring your own brush and buy your own products. If you wanted me to buy them for you, you'd have to give me money. Otherwise, it was all free. Honestly, it was like therapy.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ScurvyWench on July 15, 2005, 10:15:00 AM
It's this "Pre-Treatment" mixture. It comes in the package and you apply it throughout your hair before you begin. Then I part my hair into 6 sections and clip them up. I don't use Vaseline as the base, I use the TCB Naturals Hair Oil that I use on my hair regularly. For some reason, it works better than the Vaseline and I can put it in all of the parts as well as around my face without messing up the relaxer. It also washes out easily. I totally glop it on if I've scratched or brushed within 24 hours of perming. Brushing with a bore bristle brush (wihtin 24 hours) creates tiny leisions in your scalp that will make relaxing absolutely painful.

Scurv - What other step does Optimum have to protect your scalp?  I just use Vaseline as a base.  If my hair starts itching, I'll spray some Isoplus Oil Sheen on the itchy parts.  I only leave my perm on for 2 seconds though - so usually I don't have any problems...

i know that's right... i wouldn't be in anyone's kitchen getting my hair done :D .. one thing i don't miss though.. sitting around for hours in the salon.. .that was for the birds

i only delt with mizuni & affirm perms....and always went to the shop, i love my girls but i ain't going bald b/c of them and def didn't trust myself, y'all self-permers get much credit

I've been self-perming since junior high school when I got tired of my mom burning me. Besides the extra mirrors, the key to self perming is using enough base on your scalp and around your face. Sometimes, when I can't find the children's perm, I use Optimum Care Regular and I only leave it on for 10 minutes. It's pretty good since they put in the new extra step that protects the old hair.

My dorm room looked like a salon in college. Everyone came by my place on Saturdays to have their hair done--black, white, whatever. My only requirement was that you bring your own brush and buy your own products. If you wanted me to buy them for you, you'd have to give me money. Otherwise, it was all free. Honestly, it was like therapy.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 15, 2005, 10:16:09 AM
That's cool . . . if you weren't doing law school, would you work in a salon?  

i know that's right... i wouldn't be in anyone's kitchen getting my hair done :D .. one thing i don't miss though.. sitting around for hours in the salon.. .that was for the birds

i only delt with mizuni & affirm perms....and always went to the shop, i love my girls but i ain't going bald b/c of them and def didn't trust myself, y'all self-permers get much credit

I've been self-perming since junior high school when I got tired of my mom burning me. Besides the extra mirrors, the key to self perming is using enough base on your scalp and around your face. Sometimes, when I can't find the children's perm, I use Optimum Care Regular and I only leave it on for 10 minutes. It's pretty good since they put in the new extra step that protects the old hair.

My dorm room looked like a salon in college. Everyone came by my place on Saturdays to have their hair done--black, white, whatever. My only requirement was that you bring your own brush and buy your own products. If you wanted me to buy them for you, you'd have to give me money. Otherwise, it was all free. Honestly, it was like therapy.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Roxie on July 15, 2005, 10:23:36 AM
I know that you were asking Scurv - but I thought about it a long time ago but didn't want to be on my feet all day!  Plus, I am better at doing my own hair than I am with other people's.... ;)

That's cool . . . if you weren't doing law school, would you work in a salon?  

i know that's right... i wouldn't be in anyone's kitchen getting my hair done :D .. one thing i don't miss though.. sitting around for hours in the salon.. .that was for the birds

i only delt with mizuni & affirm perms....and always went to the shop, i love my girls but i ain't going bald b/c of them and def didn't trust myself, y'all self-permers get much credit

I've been self-perming since junior high school when I got tired of my mom burning me. Besides the extra mirrors, the key to self perming is using enough base on your scalp and around your face. Sometimes, when I can't find the children's perm, I use Optimum Care Regular and I only leave it on for 10 minutes. It's pretty good since they put in the new extra step that protects the old hair.

My dorm room looked like a salon in college. Everyone came by my place on Saturdays to have their hair done--black, white, whatever. My only requirement was that you bring your own brush and buy your own products. If you wanted me to buy them for you, you'd have to give me money. Otherwise, it was all free. Honestly, it was like therapy.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ScurvyWench on July 15, 2005, 10:25:27 AM
8-10 years ago I would have said yes. Not anymore. For me it is just a hobby and it feels great to help other people feel good about themselves without having to spend a lot of money. I enjoy taking care of other people more than taking care of myself. Other than that, I'm not a fan of the salon drama.

That's cool . . . if you weren't doing law school, would you work in a salon?  

i know that's right... i wouldn't be in anyone's kitchen getting my hair done :D .. one thing i don't miss though.. sitting around for hours in the salon.. .that was for the birds

i only delt with mizuni & affirm perms....and always went to the shop, i love my girls but i ain't going bald b/c of them and def didn't trust myself, y'all self-permers get much credit

I've been self-perming since junior high school when I got tired of my mom burning me. Besides the extra mirrors, the key to self perming is using enough base on your scalp and around your face. Sometimes, when I can't find the children's perm, I use Optimum Care Regular and I only leave it on for 10 minutes. It's pretty good since they put in the new extra step that protects the old hair.

My dorm room looked like a salon in college. Everyone came by my place on Saturdays to have their hair done--black, white, whatever. My only requirement was that you bring your own brush and buy your own products. If you wanted me to buy them for you, you'd have to give me money. Otherwise, it was all free. Honestly, it was like therapy.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Roxie on July 15, 2005, 10:29:22 AM
Do ya'll like Terri's hair??  Check out the link - I still don't know how to post pics?? :'(

http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/archive/200507/20050712.html#
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ScurvyWench on July 15, 2005, 10:30:59 AM
Do ya'll like Terri's hair??  Check out the link - I still don't know how to post pics?? :'(

http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/archive/200507/20050712.html#

I'd like it if it was darker. The Orphan Annie Red is not good.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 15, 2005, 12:05:14 PM
So does everyone sleep with the satin nightcaps or wraps on? I didn't use to but after my latest hair breakage I use my satin cap every night.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ScurvyWench on July 15, 2005, 12:10:49 PM
So does everyone sleep with the satin nightcaps or wraps on? I didn't use to but after my latest hair breakage I use my satin cap every night.

Nope. . . and my hair is really healthy. I just put it up in a loose bun and call it done. If I've curled it and want to keep it smooth, then I pin curl it (tight or loose depending) and wear a regular old cotton scarf to bed.

If your hair has been really dry, some deep conditioning and oil treatments should get it back on the road to healthy. Plus, the less you wear it out or fry it, the more it can rebuild.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 15, 2005, 12:15:44 PM
I normally put my hair in a bun or a few braids and tie it with a cotton scarf. If I do four french braids the night before, I can wake up and have these great waves that everyone loves . . . very low maintenance hairdo . . .I can wear those waves for 2-3 days if I tie them up.  :)

So does everyone sleep with the satin nightcaps or wraps on? I didn't use to but after my latest hair breakage I use my satin cap every night.

Nope. . . and my hair is really healthy. I just put it up in a loose bun and call it done. If I've curled it and want to keep it smooth, then I pin curl it (tight or loose depending) and wear a regular old cotton scarf to bed.

If your hair has been really dry, some deep conditioning and oil treatments should get it back on the road to healthy. Plus, the less you wear it out or fry it, the more it can rebuild.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: dbgirl on July 15, 2005, 03:30:19 PM
You all are going to laugh at this but ...
Since I can't really afford a salon, my white boyfriend serves as my beautician.
Normally, I would not allow a white person to do my hair because they don't understand curly hair well, but you do what you have to do.
He's actually pretty good at it. My friend wanted to get her daughter's hair relaxed and asked "Who straightens your hair?"
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 15, 2005, 04:06:11 PM
 :D :D :D :D... if it works out though that's all that matters.. but i admit i'd love to see pictures


You all are going to laugh at this but ...
Since I can't really afford a salon, my white boyfriend serves as my beautician.
Normally, I would not allow a white person to do my hair because they don't understand curly hair well, but you do what you have to do.
He's actually pretty good at it. My friend wanted to get her daughter's hair relaxed and asked "Who straightens your hair?"

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Jwebony956 on July 15, 2005, 04:38:30 PM
So to answer my own question:

I use Nexxus Diametress shampoo and this other Dominican shampoo when I wash my hair every 4-5 days. I clarify at least once a month to rid of buildup. Apple Cider Vinegar is a great clarifer!

I deep condition with every wash and use either Alter Ego Garlic Treatment, Salerm Wheat Germ Mask, Silicon Mix, or Keracare Humecto Conditioner. For protein treatments I either use ORS Mayo or Aphogee 2 minute Reconstructor

For moisturizers I use anything whose main ingredients are NOT Petrolatum or Mineral Oil. Those ingredients would clog your scalp and prevent growth. My fave moisturizers are Elasta QP Mango Butter, Shea Butter Unrefined, Asha's Heavenly Hair Dressing, and Karen's Body Beautiful Hair Butter. I want to try Carol's Daughters but her products are too damn expensive and if I wanted to I can come up with the same concoction that she uses for her butters/moisturizers!

I also use various oils to seal in moisture: olive oil, carrot oil, avocado, castor, whale sperm oil (this is for strength) and coconut oil (da bomb!)

I am currently transition and plan to be relaxer-free by the time I finish law school... :-*. By then I hope to have waist length natural strands! Let's see how corporate America would react to my natural do  ;D

ETA: For anyone interested in finding more information on some of the products I metioned here are the websites:

www.ashasnaturals.com

www.karenbodybeautiful.com

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 15, 2005, 05:39:48 PM
good luck on your natural journey jwe, i was there a few years ago!

So to answer my own question:

I use Nexxus Diametress shampoo and this other Dominican shampoo when I wash my hair every 4-5 days. I clarify at least once a month to rid of buildup. Apple Cider Vinegar is a great clarifer!

I deep condition with every wash and use either Alter Ego Garlic Treatment, Salerm Wheat Germ Mask, Silicon Mix, or Keracare Humecto Conditioner. For protein treatments I either use ORS Mayo or Aphogee 2 minute Reconstructor

For moisturizers I use anything whose main ingredients are NOT Petrolatum or Mineral Oil. Those ingredients would clog your scalp and prevent growth. My fave moisturizers are Elasta QP Mango Butter, Shea Butter Unrefined, Asha's Heavenly Hair Dressing, and Karen's Body Beautiful Hair Butter. I want to try Carol's Daughters but her products are too damn expensive and if I wanted to I can come up with the same concoction that she uses for her butters/moisturizers!

I also use various oils to seal in moisture: olive oil, carrot oil, avocado, castor, whale sperm oil (this is for strength) and coconut oil (da bomb!)

I am currently transition and plan to be relaxer-free by the time I finish law school... :-*. By then I hope to have waist length natural strands! Let's see how corporate America would react to my natural do  ;D

ETA: For anyone interested in finding more information on some of the products I metioned here are the websites:

www.ashasnaturals.com

www.karenbodybeautiful.com


Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 18, 2005, 06:42:58 PM
Okay. I bought some of the products mentioned in this thread. I hope my hair likes it. It has been too frizzy and dry for too long. I'm going to wash my hair now. I'm happy that I didn't break the bank getting these products. Thanks Lex for telling me about the Generic line. Later.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ScurvyWench on July 18, 2005, 07:07:19 PM
Okay. I bought some of the products mentioned in this thread. I hope my hair likes it. It has been too frizzy and dry for too long. I'm going to wash my hair now. I'm happy that I didn't break the bank getting these products. Thanks Lex for telling me about the Generic line. Later.

I forgot, did you say you're relaxing? If you want, I can give you a touch up before school starts. Lord knows you don't want to be dealing with it in LS!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 18, 2005, 07:12:45 PM
good deeds never go unnoticed.. u have such a caring spirit :)


Okay. I bought some of the products mentioned in this thread. I hope my hair likes it. It has been too frizzy and dry for too long. I'm going to wash my hair now. I'm happy that I didn't break the bank getting these products. Thanks Lex for telling me about the Generic line. Later.

I forgot, did you say you're relaxing? If you want, I can give you a touch up before school starts. Lord knows you don't want to be dealing with it in LS!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ScurvyWench on July 18, 2005, 07:14:10 PM
I'm just repaying the community for the good deed you did for me! I couldn't have what I do now without your connections. :)

BTW Are y'all coming over for the BBQ on Saturday?

good deeds never go unnoticed.. u have such a caring spirit :)


Okay. I bought some of the products mentioned in this thread. I hope my hair likes it. It has been too frizzy and dry for too long. I'm going to wash my hair now. I'm happy that I didn't break the bank getting these products. Thanks Lex for telling me about the Generic line. Later.

I forgot, did you say you're relaxing? If you want, I can give you a touch up before school starts. Lord knows you don't want to be dealing with it in LS!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 18, 2005, 07:14:36 PM
No I had a touch up a month ago. Oh you just reminded me that it's getting time for another one. No no I will never do the self relaxing. Let me get off the computer. It takes my hair forever to dry and it's getting late. I will PM you later Scurvy. Thank you for the offer.


I forgot, did you say you're relaxing? If you want, I can give you a touch up before school starts. Lord knows you don't want to be dealing with it in LS!
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Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 18, 2005, 07:17:32 PM
scurvy check your PM
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Cyndra on July 19, 2005, 02:34:34 PM
You all have a lot of good tips on keeping hair healthy. My hair's relaxed, has been for the longest time--it's the only way I can comb it! I wrap my hair all the time at home, but now I've gotta try that roller set method, or doobie I think someone called it. While I haven't tried perming myself, I do like to wrap and curl it myself in between visits to the salon. I need to know where I can get one of those salon-style-hooded hair dryers. I've got one that sits on a table, but it isn't as powerful as a free standing one. Anyone know where the public can get their hands on one?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 19, 2005, 04:40:41 PM
Yeah this thread is great. I bought some of the products in this thread. When I got in my friend's car this afternoon, he complimented me on the smell and how soft it looked. But I was scared with that tea tree shampoo because my hair started to locked when I was rinsing it out.

But to answer your question, do you have the Gold Hot hooded dryer? I have that it and I think it dries fast. But Sally's sells the hooded dryers like the ones in the salon. I was just in there yesterday and the salon dryers were against the back wall. I have a wrapping question for you? Is your hair short and does it wrap well? My hair is now in a bob for the summer time but it's full and have a hard time getting the wrap straight. What do you do for your wrap? Thanks.

You all have a lot of good tips on keeping hair healthy. My hair's relaxed, has been for the longest time--it's the only way I can comb it! I wrap my hair all the time at home, but now I've gotta try that roller set method, or doobie I think someone called it. While I haven't tried perming myself, I do like to wrap and curl it myself in between visits to the salon. I need to know where I can get one of those salon-style-hooded hair dryers. I've got one that sits on a table, but it isn't as powerful as a free standing one. Anyone know where the public can get their hands on one?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Cyndra on July 19, 2005, 07:38:12 PM
Yeah this thread is great. I bought some of the products in this thread. When I got in my friend's car this afternoon, he complimented me on the smell and how soft it looked. But I was scared with that tea tree shampoo because my hair started to locked when I was rinsing it out.

But to answer your question, do you have the Gold Hot hooded dryer? I have that it and I think it dries fast. But Sally's sells the hooded dryers like the ones in the salon. I was just in there yesterday and the salon dryers were against the back wall. I have a wrapping question for you? Is your hair short and does it wrap well? My hair is now in a bob for the summer time but it's full and have a hard time getting the wrap straight. What do you do for your wrap? Thanks.

I'm going to Sally's tomorrow now that I know they stock the salon-style dryers in the store. I figured they'd only sell stuff like that to licensed professionals. But I do have the Gold'n Hot hooded dryer. It takes almost 2 hours to dry a wrap with it though! My mom has the kind I'm looking for back home, and it dries great. It's old, but I love it. I want one like hers (she never uses it, but wants to keep it for when my little sis comes home from school so she can do her hair  ::) )

But my hair is medium length I guess. But what do you mean that you can't get your wrap "straight"? Is it frizzy or crinkled? I get it to wrap by using a fine-tooth comb after thoroughly combing it out with Motion's wrapping lotion in it. I comb it straight to the back with a detangling comb, then again with the fine tooth comb. Then with the detangling comb, I make a small part on the very top of my head and comb it out in all directions. It's hard to keep the wrap flat on top as you start wrapping the rest, so I hold it down as I wrap. Make sure your hair's well conditioned and moisturized--I find those are the times I get the smoothest wraps. I just hate the two hours I sit scrunched up under an ill fitting dryer. The height is never right.

When I get a bad wrap, I'm usually over-due for a relaxer. Those times I wrap it, dry it, then flat iron it and bump the ends--keeping the wrap while smoothing out the frizzies. Everyone's talking about how well Dominican's do our hair--anyone gone to an Egyptian (of Middle Eastern descent)? Ah man... I miss Chicago! Yehia, Ossama's, I miss those shops! You might have some tough looking dude doing your perm and blow drying you, but you come outta there hooked upppp!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 19, 2005, 07:52:36 PM
Lol.  Ya'll are making me want to go to a salon and finish my makeover before school starts.  :D

Yeah this thread is great. I bought some of the products in this thread. When I got in my friend's car this afternoon, he complimented me on the smell and how soft it looked. But I was scared with that tea tree shampoo because my hair started to locked when I was rinsing it out.

But to answer your question, do you have the Gold Hot hooded dryer? I have that it and I think it dries fast. But Sally's sells the hooded dryers like the ones in the salon. I was just in there yesterday and the salon dryers were against the back wall. I have a wrapping question for you? Is your hair short and does it wrap well? My hair is now in a bob for the summer time but it's full and have a hard time getting the wrap straight. What do you do for your wrap? Thanks.

I'm going to Sally's tomorrow now that I know they stock the salon-style dryers in the store. I figured they'd only sell stuff like that to licensed professionals. But I do have the Gold'n Hot hooded dryer. It takes almost 2 hours to dry a wrap with it though! My mom has the kind I'm looking for back home, and it dries great. It's old, but I love it. I want one like hers (she never uses it, but wants to keep it for when my little sis comes home from school so she can do her hair  ::) )

But my hair is medium length I guess. But what do you mean that you can't get your wrap "straight"? Is it frizzy or crinkled? I get it to wrap by using a fine-tooth comb after thoroughly combing it out with Motion's wrapping lotion in it. I comb it straight to the back with a detangling comb, then again with the fine tooth comb. Then with the detangling comb, I make a small part on the very top of my head and comb it out in all directions. It's hard to keep the wrap flat on top as you start wrapping the rest, so I hold it down as I wrap. Make sure your hair's well conditioned and moisturized--I find those are the times I get the smoothest wraps. I just hate the two hours I sit scrunched up under an ill fitting dryer. The height is never right.

When I get a bad wrap, I'm usually over-due for a relaxer. Those times I wrap it, dry it, then flat iron it and bump the ends--keeping the wrap while smoothing out the frizzies. Everyone's talking about how well Dominican's do our hair--anyone gone to an Egyptian (of Middle Eastern descent)? Ah man... I miss Chicago! Yehia, Ossama's, I miss those shops! You might have some tough looking dude doing your perm and blow drying you, but you come outta there hooked upppp!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 19, 2005, 08:52:21 PM
I wonder if Gold n Hot is the highest power hooded dryer. I saw a different brand at Walmart I was thinking of buying. I don't know if Sally's will sell you the salon style dryers. But what can they do? Refused you? My wrap is crinkled. I can't get that smooth straight look. I know my hair can do it because the lady does it when I go to the salon. Someone told me that your hair has to get "used" to being wrapped.  :-\

I will try your method. I don't use a fine tooth comb. I have used a brush because it's difficult sometimes to wrap the hair around and get it smooth. Do you put the top part of your wrap in rollers? I also don't use a lot of wrapping lotion because I'm don't want it to dry and flake. Maybe that's part of the problem too. And I am due for a touch up. My hooded dryer broke two weeks ago and the hair dryer is drying out my hair. I'm going to buy another hooded dryer soon. Let me know if Sally's sells you that salon dryer.




I'm going to Sally's tomorrow now that I know they stock the salon-style dryers in the store. I figured they'd only sell stuff like that to licensed professionals. But I do have the Gold'n Hot hooded dryer. It takes almost 2 hours to dry a wrap with it though! My mom has the kind I'm looking for back home, and it dries great. It's old, but I love it. I want one like hers (she never uses it, but wants to keep it for when my little sis comes home from school so she can do her hair  ::) )

But my hair is medium length I guess. But what do you mean that you can't get your wrap "straight"? Is it frizzy or crinkled? I get it to wrap by using a fine-tooth comb after thoroughly combing it out with Motion's wrapping lotion in it. I comb it straight to the back with a detangling comb, then again with the fine tooth comb. Then with the detangling comb, I make a small part on the very top of my head and comb it out in all directions. It's hard to keep the wrap flat on top as you start wrapping the rest, so I hold it down as I wrap. Make sure your hair's well conditioned and moisturized--I find those are the times I get the smoothest wraps. I just hate the two hours I sit scrunched up under an ill fitting dryer. The height is never right.

When I get a bad wrap, I'm usually over-due for a relaxer. Those times I wrap it, dry it, then flat iron it and bump the ends--keeping the wrap while smoothing out the frizzies. Everyone's talking about how well Dominican's do our hair--anyone gone to an Egyptian (of Middle Eastern descent)? Ah man... I miss Chicago! Yehia, Ossama's, I miss those shops! You might have some tough looking dude doing your perm and blow drying you, but you come outta there hooked upppp!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Cyndra on July 20, 2005, 09:20:21 AM
I think that's where your problem may be. Make sure your hair is very, very wet (get a small spray bottle and fill it with water in order to make sure your hair stays dripping wet), and don't be stingy with the wrapping lotion. If you're worried about using too much wrapping lotion because it might flake, you're using the wrong brand. I use Motion's wrapping foam, and it never flakes on me. That's why I like it. I've used other liquid brands, I think Lottabody, but maybe it was some other brand, and that flaked on me. Use Motions. And don't use a brush to wrap. I only use a brush when I'm due for a relaxer and need to smooth out my hairline on the sides and back. Otherwise, using a brush on the rest of the hair takes the wetness away (which you need to make it smooth) and makes the wrap bumpy. But flat iron it if you get a slightly crinkly or frizzy wrap. It'll still look good!

I'm no pro at this, but these are the things that've worked for me. Using a smaller tooth comb should help you get a tighter and straighter wrap.

I wonder if Gold n Hot is the highest power hooded dryer. I saw a different brand at Walmart I was thinking of buying. I don't know if Sally's will sell you the salon style dryers. But what can they do? Refused you? My wrap is crinkled. I can't get that smooth straight look. I know my hair can do it because the lady does it when I go to the salon. Someone told me that your hair has to get "used" to being wrapped.  :-\

I will try your method. I don't use a fine tooth comb. I have used a brush because it's difficult sometimes to wrap the hair around and get it smooth. Do you put the top part of your wrap in rollers? I also don't use a lot of wrapping lotion because I'm don't want it to dry and flake. Maybe that's part of the problem too. And I am due for a touch up. My hooded dryer broke two weeks ago and the hair dryer is drying out my hair. I'm going to buy another hooded dryer soon. Let me know if Sally's sells you that salon dryer.


You all have made me want to spend all my little money at Sallys!  :D

Lol. Ya'll are making me want to go to a salon and finish my makeover before school starts. :D


Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 20, 2005, 09:27:51 AM
on the wraps......i reccomend doing a roller set and after you take the culers out wrap your hair up and sleep on it for the night.....when i had straight hair i would always get roller sets and my hair would know what was up later that night, buti'd been wrapping my hair since the 4th grade.....sitting under a dryer and waiting for you hair to set in a wrap is too much time and heat....def try the roller set
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Roxie on July 20, 2005, 09:59:07 AM
If you used Lottabody and your wrap came out flaky, it was bcuz you didn't put enough water in the mixture.  Add some water to the mix and your wrap should be fine.


Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 20, 2005, 11:31:31 AM
I love all the advice in this thread. I don't know about the roller set. I have a hard time wrapping my hair when it's dry. I try to wrap after a roller set but my hair was too full. Also I get impatient rolling my hair. I know there's a pattern or method to do it but I don't roll my hair right. I always get those small curls. This bob I have now is the shortest style I have had in 12 years. My hair is usually a little over medium length. Even with the new short style, I'm still having problems wrapping my hair.

I will try your advice Bulma next time I wash my hair. I have another question for you. What do you use to wrap your dry hair? All the wrapping lotions seem to be for wet hair.

Lex19, what size rollers did you use for your roller set? Thanks again everyone for your advice.



on the wraps......i reccomend doing a roller set and after you take the culers out wrap your hair up and sleep on it for the night.....when i had straight hair i would always get roller sets and my hair would know what was up later that night, buti'd been wrapping my hair since the 4th grade.....sitting under a dryer and waiting for you hair to set in a wrap is too much time and heat....def try the roller set
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Roxie on July 20, 2005, 11:49:00 AM
I like purple rollers for long hair - orange for short to medium length.  Pink for short or pink if you have long hair and want spirals.

I love all the advice in this thread. I don't know about the roller set. I have a hard time wrapping my hair when it's dry. I try to wrap after a roller set but my hair was too full. Also I get impatient rolling my hair. I know there's a pattern or method to do it but I don't roll my hair right. I always get those small curls. This bob I have now is the shortest style I have had in 12 years. My hair is usually a little over medium length. Even with the new short style, I'm still having problems wrapping my hair.

I will try your advice Bulma next time I wash my hair. I have another question for you. What do you use to wrap your dry hair? All the wrapping lotions seem to be for wet hair.

Lex19, what size rollers did you use for your roller set? Thanks again everyone for your advice.



on the wraps......i reccomend doing a roller set and after you take the culers out wrap your hair up and sleep on it for the night.....when i had straight hair i would always get roller sets and my hair would know what was up later that night, buti'd been wrapping my hair since the 4th grade.....sitting under a dryer and waiting for you hair to set in a wrap is too much time and heat....def try the roller set
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 20, 2005, 12:03:22 PM
i dunno, i always went to the shop, purple i think, my hair wasto my bra strap with a couple of layers, but who knows it's been 4 years


I love all the advice in this thread. I don't know about the roller set. I have a hard time wrapping my hair when it's dry. I try to wrap after a roller set but my hair was too full. Also I get impatient rolling my hair. I know there's a pattern or method to do it but I don't roll my hair right. I always get those small curls. This bob I have now is the shortest style I have had in 12 years. My hair is usually a little over medium length. Even with the new short style, I'm still having problems wrapping my hair.

I will try your advice Bulma next time I wash my hair. I have another question for you. What do you use to wrap your dry hair? All the wrapping lotions seem to be for wet hair.

Lex19, what size rollers did you use for your roller set? Thanks again everyone for your advice.



on the wraps......i reccomend doing a roller set and after you take the culers out wrap your hair up and sleep on it for the night.....when i had straight hair i would always get roller sets and my hair would know what was up later that night, buti'd been wrapping my hair since the 4th grade.....sitting under a dryer and waiting for you hair to set in a wrap is too much time and heat....def try the roller set
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Roxie on July 20, 2005, 12:04:42 PM
At the shop, purple is the same as red.  So Lex, you prob had purple or red.  Orange would have made it too poofy...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Cyndra on July 20, 2005, 08:06:58 PM
At the shop, purple is the same as red.  So Lex, you prob had purple or red.  Orange would have made it too poofy...

Thanks for the tip on the flaky wrap lottabody gave me. I had stopped trying whatever wrapping lotion that was because I kept getting the flakes.

I will try your advice Bulma next time I wash my hair. I have another question for you. What do you use to wrap your dry hair? All the wrapping lotions seem to be for wet hair.

Is there a wrapping lotion for dry hair? I think if your hair's dry, you just comb it into a wrap and then tie it up. It should remember the next night how to go back into the wrap.

I'm going to try the roller set thing. The problem I always get is the line or crease at the base of the curl because of the impression the rubber fastener leaves. Anyone know how to avoid that problem, or do I just not know how to roll???

Oh, and I checked with Sally's--they do have pro-style hooded dryers. They have a cheaper one suggested for home use, but I'm going to order the professional model for that fast dry I'm looking for. The first thing I'll do is a roller set, once someone tells me what I'm doing wrong!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Roxie on July 21, 2005, 06:39:25 AM
To avoid the creases with the rollers, you have to get the long silver clips and clip the rollers together 2 at a time.  This is a pretty advanced technique, so it will take some practice. ;)

At the shop, purple is the same as red.  So Lex, you prob had purple or red.  Orange would have made it too poofy...

Thanks for the tip on the flaky wrap lottabody gave me. I had stopped trying whatever wrapping lotion that was because I kept getting the flakes.

I will try your advice Bulma next time I wash my hair. I have another question for you. What do you use to wrap your dry hair? All the wrapping lotions seem to be for wet hair.

Is there a wrapping lotion for dry hair? I think if your hair's dry, you just comb it into a wrap and then tie it up. It should remember the next night how to go back into the wrap.

I'm going to try the roller set thing. The problem I always get is the line or crease at the base of the curl because of the impression the rubber fastener leaves. Anyone know how to avoid that problem, or do I just not know how to roll???

Oh, and I checked with Sally's--they do have pro-style hooded dryers. They have a cheaper one suggested for home use, but I'm going to order the professional model for that fast dry I'm looking for. The first thing I'll do is a roller set, once someone tells me what I'm doing wrong!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 21, 2005, 07:55:04 AM
Two at a time? What do you mean? Also, you mean there are longer silver clips than the short ones?

To avoid the creases with the rollers, you have to get the long silver clips and clip the rollers together 2 at a time.  This is a pretty advanced technique, so it will take some practice. ;)

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Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Roxie on July 21, 2005, 07:57:04 AM
Long silver clips and you use them to clip the rollers together.  That way, you don't use the roller caps.  Hard to explain....somebody find a picture....

Two at a time? What do you mean? Also, you mean there are longer silver clips than the short ones?

To avoid the creases with the rollers, you have to get the long silver clips and clip the rollers together 2 at a time.  This is a pretty advanced technique, so it will take some practice. ;)

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Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 21, 2005, 07:58:36 AM
Did you go inside Sally's or check on the web? On their website, they won't let you look at the salon equipment without a professional license number. How were you able to order the salon dryer for home use? And what is the name of the one for home use? Thanks.


I'm going to try the roller set thing. The problem I always get is the line or crease at the base of the curl because of the impression the rubber fastener leaves. Anyone know how to avoid that problem, or do I just not know how to roll???

Oh, and I checked with Sally's--they do have pro-style hooded dryers. They have a cheaper one suggested for home use, but I'm going to order the professional model for that fast dry I'm looking for. The first thing I'll do is a roller set, once someone tells me what I'm doing wrong!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 21, 2005, 08:00:31 AM
Oh I know what you are talking about. The thing about it is with the clips my hair still doesn't seem like it's locked in firmly. I probably need to use smaller sections of my hair but I want body not curl.

Long silver clips and you use them to clip the rollers together.  That way, you don't use the roller caps.  Hard to explain....somebody find a picture....

Two at a time? What do you mean? Also, you mean there are longer silver clips than the short ones?

To avoid the creases with the rollers, you have to get the long silver clips and clip the rollers together 2 at a time.  This is a pretty advanced technique, so it will take some practice. ;)

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Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Cyndra on July 21, 2005, 09:13:26 AM
To avoid the creases with the rollers, you have to get the long silver clips and clip the rollers together 2 at a time.  This is a pretty advanced technique, so it will take some practice. ;)


Oh, ok. I wasn't using the hollow rollers. I had the rods, and that's where I got the creases.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Cyndra on July 21, 2005, 09:27:43 AM
Did you go inside Sally's or check on the web? On their website, they won't let you look at the salon equipment without a professional license number. How were you able to order the salon dryer for home use? And what is the name of the one for home use? Thanks.

I went inside Sally's. They won't let me into that area on the web, but I just checked with the store, and the one that they have on display, Highland Venus, is one that can be purchased for home use w/o a license. That one is $179 including next day shipping. (http://www.midwestsalon.com/images/newsalonfurnitureimp/italicadryer.jpg) That's a little much; I've seen stuff cheaper online, but you can't return stuff bought online very easily. There's a cheaper Conair one (don't know how much), but I've seen that one all over online. I don't like it because it has a huge shield that goes around the hood instead of having just hood with air holes along the bottom. I can see that being a problem with getting an even dry. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00016W6EG/ref=dp_product-image-only_0/102-7847902-7304148?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=3760901&s=hpc)

Sally's has catalogs in the store and they'll let you purchase from there--in there is all the stuff they won't let the public view on their website. Then you tell them what you want from the catalog, and they ship it free directly to you. I don't know why they just won't let you view the stuff and order it online  ::). Returns are subject to a $20 restocking fee, so buy wisely!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Roxie on July 21, 2005, 09:44:37 AM
I've always wanted one of these.... :P
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 21, 2005, 10:08:17 AM
Now that's a dryer.

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I went inside Sally's. They won't let me into that area on the web, but I just checked with the store, and the one that they have on display, Highland Venus, is one that can be purchased for home use w/o a license. That one is $179 including next day shipping. (http://www.midwestsalon.com/images/newsalonfurnitureimp/italicadryer.jpg) That's a little much; I've seen stuff cheaper online, but you can't return stuff bought online very easily. There's a cheaper Conair one (don't know how much), but I've seen that one all over online. I don't like it because it has a huge shield that goes around the hood instead of having just hood with air holes along the bottom. I can see that being a problem with getting an even dry. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00016W6EG/ref=dp_product-image-only_0/102-7847902-7304148?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=3760901&s=hpc)

Sally's has catalogs in the store and they'll let you purchase from there--in there is all the stuff they won't let the public view on their website. Then you tell them what you want from the catalog, and they ship it free directly to you. I don't know why they just won't let you view the stuff and order it online  ::). Returns are subject to a $20 restocking fee, so buy wisely!
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Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 21, 2005, 11:49:26 AM
ok ladies, i am currently contemplating cutting my hair really really short. like a short natural. i had it like this before, like 3 years ago, then after a year I let it grow and its been going ever since. i think i'm motivated by the whole change of scenery, starting a new school, moving to a new place type of thing. what do y'all think?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Roxie on July 21, 2005, 11:52:03 AM
How long is your hair now?  If you are one of those people that are like, "It's just hair...it will grow back," then go for it.  If you are feeling super attached to your hair, cut off a little to make it gradual. 

A short do would look cute with all the BoHo chic clothes and big earrings and necklaces that are out right now.

ok ladies, i am currently contemplating cutting my hair really really short. like a short natural. i had it like this before, like 3 years ago, then after a year I let it grow and its been going ever since. i think i'm motivated by the whole change of scenery, starting a new school, moving to a new place type of thing. what do y'all think?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 21, 2005, 01:33:09 PM
I just cut my hair to a bob which is the shortest it has been in like 12 years. The heat and humidity are making it grow and it looks healthy. But styling shorter hair is a problem. I think a short natural is cute. Are you going to grow it out? Or are you going to keep the style for a while? Do you think the style will look great in a law firm? Those are all the things you have to think about.

ok ladies, i am currently contemplating cutting my hair really really short. like a short natural. i had it like this before, like 3 years ago, then after a year I let it grow and its been going ever since. i think i'm motivated by the whole change of scenery, starting a new school, moving to a new place type of thing. what do y'all think?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 21, 2005, 02:23:43 PM
who the hell are you?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 21, 2005, 02:24:43 PM
i posted my picture a couple of days ago. i'll put it as my avatar again tomorrow.

rbg--behave! you are not victor!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 21, 2005, 02:26:04 PM
Lol. sawee  :'(
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 21, 2005, 02:27:19 PM
lol
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 21, 2005, 02:31:23 PM
Oh I didn't know you already cut your hair!! How do you like it?

i posted my picture a couple of days ago. i'll put it as my avatar again tomorrow.

rbg--behave! you are not victor!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 21, 2005, 02:51:49 PM
no, i didn't cut my hair. the picture is me. i am thinking about cutting it all off. and i'm wondering about all of those questions. what potential employers think and other stuff too.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 21, 2005, 03:06:25 PM
keep him tame :D


rbg--behave! you are not victor!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: dbgirl on July 21, 2005, 03:09:33 PM
I need to find some low-maintenance hairstyle that takes just a few minutes to get ready. Should I go back to braids? Are they considered appropriate for lawyers?

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 21, 2005, 03:11:52 PM
no, i didn't cut my hair. the picture is me. i am thinking about cutting it all off. and i'm wondering about all of those questions. what potential employers think and other stuff too.

they'll think you are a black panther.  lmao
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: dbgirl on July 21, 2005, 03:13:18 PM
I don't want short hair ... I think you have to have really good bone structure for short hair.
But my hair is a PAIN  :(
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 21, 2005, 03:15:52 PM
I need to find some low-maintenance hairstyle that takes just a few minutes to get ready. Should I go back to braids? Are they considered appropriate for lawyers?



you might as well show up sportin' a dashiki and asking for paid kwanzaa days off...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 21, 2005, 03:18:43 PM
"today is the 80th day of kwanzaa meant to celebrate fertility..."
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: dbgirl on July 21, 2005, 03:19:56 PM
I actually DO think blacks deserve more paid time off.
My friend works for the Jewish Community Center and gets about 45 days of paid time off a year, including many Jewish holidays.

I think blacks should get Martin Luther King Jr's birthday off -- and Malcom X's b-day too (Berkeley actually does give Malcom X day off of school).

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 21, 2005, 03:21:17 PM
I actually DO think blacks deserve more paid time off.
My friend works for the Jewish Community Center and gets about 45 days of paid time off a year, including many Jewish holidays.

I think blacks should get Martin Luther King Jr's birthday off -- and Malcom X's b-day too (Berkeley actually does give Malcom X day off of school).


good ole Berkeley
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 21, 2005, 03:33:50 PM
Your hair is nice. Don't cut it off.  :-\

Hey what happened to Elegant and HBCU? Did they delete their accounts? It says "guest" under their posts?

no, i didn't cut my hair. the picture is me. i am thinking about cutting it all off. and i'm wondering about all of those questions. what potential employers think and other stuff too.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 21, 2005, 03:39:35 PM
dbgirl what's your hair texture and length??

blkhtw- they both deleted their accounts
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 21, 2005, 03:46:30 PM
dbgirl what's your hair texture and length??

blkhtw- they both deleted their accounts

HBCU deleted his account? hmm I can say #%@! all I want with no fear of castigation or censorship. Intriguing...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blkhtw on July 21, 2005, 03:52:56 PM
Wow what happpened??  ??? So who is the new moderator?


blkhtw- they both deleted their accounts
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 21, 2005, 03:56:07 PM
no mod yet... people have just moved on you know.. work school career...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Fabyahluss on July 21, 2005, 04:05:04 PM
ok ladies, i am currently contemplating cutting my hair really really short. like a short natural. i had it like this before, like 3 years ago, then after a year I let it grow and its been going ever since. i think i'm motivated by the whole change of scenery, starting a new school, moving to a new place type of thing. what do y'all think?

When I first went natural, I did the "big chop" and was left with like half an inch of hair. Although I've been growing my hair out since then - a year and a half ago - I've always known that one day I'm gonna chop it all off again, just because the style is so damn cute and directs attention to my face moreso than longer styles. Plus, I love low maintenance hair styles, and it doesn't get much more low maintenance than a twa. I say go for it!  :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: jdohno on July 21, 2005, 06:35:13 PM
I'm surprised that they deleted their accounts too. HBCU fought hard to become the moderator again. But I can understand moving on.

From reading this hair thread, I see that many people either braid, relax or go natural. Does anyone press their hair with the hot comb or is it too high maintance because you sweat it out the next day?

no mod yet... people have just moved on you know.. work school career...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 21, 2005, 06:43:25 PM
I wore a press briefly in DC... you couldn't tell it wasn't a perm...

there's just entirely too much heat involved in maintaining a press :-\
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 21, 2005, 06:48:10 PM
I wore a press briefly in DC... you couldn't tell it wasn't a perm...

there's just entirely too much heat involved in maintaining a press :-\

the joys of chemicals
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 21, 2005, 06:54:18 PM
the joys of locs


I wore a press briefly in DC... you couldn't tell it wasn't a perm...

there's just entirely too much heat involved in maintaining a press :-\

the joys of chemicals
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 21, 2005, 06:58:02 PM
I wore a press briefly in DC... you couldn't tell it wasn't a perm...

there's just entirely too much heat involved in maintaining a press :-\

the joys of chemicals

Yes! I can't wait til this weekend when I get my Nat King Cole conk. I'm gonna' be pimpin' all up and down route 66.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 21, 2005, 07:27:08 PM
get your kicks.. on route sixty-six.. dum dum dum..bong.... :P

man you're taking it back .. i love Nat King Cole...makes me think of listening to old school music with my granddad
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Fabyahluss on July 21, 2005, 08:23:16 PM
I'm surprised that they deleted their accounts too. HBCU fought hard to become the moderator again. But I can understand moving on.

From reading this hair thread, I see that many people either braid, relax or go natural. Does anyone press their hair with the hot comb or is it too high maintance because you sweat it out the next day?


The last time I pressed my hair was almost 10 years ago. I don't ever straighten my hair now, but if I did, a press would be pointless. I'm so active that my fro would be back within minutes of sweating. I love dancing and I remember the days when I had a press, and would have to be careful not to dance too hard for fear of sweating out my style.  Sure glad those days are gone!  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 21, 2005, 09:50:36 PM
I still press my hair, but normally in the winter. In the summer, I keep my hair natural for the most part. If I have an event or something to go to, I might press it in the summer, but other than that, I don't bother. I normally don't sweat out a press for about 5-6 days, longer in the winter, which is fine because normally I have washed my hair by then anyway.  :)


I'm surprised that they deleted their accounts too. HBCU fought hard to become the moderator again. But I can understand moving on.

From reading this hair thread, I see that many people either braid, relax or go natural. Does anyone press their hair with the hot comb or is it too high maintance because you sweat it out the next day?


The last time I pressed my hair was almost 10 years ago. I don't ever straighten my hair now, but if I did, a press would be pointless. I'm so active that my fro would be back within minutes of sweating. I love dancing and I remember the days when I had a press, and would have to be careful not to dance too hard for fear of sweating out my style. Sure glad those days are gone! :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 22, 2005, 05:27:03 AM
fab, i haven't heard or seen twa used in a minute!!!!!

ok ladies, i am currently contemplating cutting my hair really really short. like a short natural. i had it like this before, like 3 years ago, then after a year I let it grow and its been going ever since. i think i'm motivated by the whole change of scenery, starting a new school, moving to a new place type of thing. what do y'all think?

When I first went natural, I did the "big chop" and was left with like half an inch of hair. Although I've been growing my hair out since then - a year and a half ago - I've always known that one day I'm gonna chop it all off again, just because the style is so damn cute and directs attention to my face moreso than longer styles. Plus, I love low maintenance hair styles, and it doesn't get much more low maintenance than a twa. I say go for it!  :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 22, 2005, 07:20:25 AM
what does twa mean? i might just cut it all off. i hadn't thought about employers looking at me differently though. do y'all really think that would happen? oh, and dbgirl--I love the bay! i would move there if it wasn't so daggone expensive.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 22, 2005, 07:22:09 AM
teanie weanie afro

what does twa mean? i might just cut it all off. i hadn't thought about employers looking at me differently though. do y'all really think that would happen? oh, and dbgirl--I love the bay! i would move there if it wasn't so daggone expensive.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 22, 2005, 07:24:44 AM
your hair is cute.. i think u should keep it.. but nothing wrong with a short style either..when i cut my perm out.. i wore my hair at very short length (til i started growing it out of course).. probably the length of a texturizer style.. loved it...washed my hair every morning.. put a couple of products in it for the curly affect without the text :P .. and i was good to go.. very low maintenance

employers won't look at you crazy.. in fact i received a lot of compliments from corporate professionals on my hair


what does twa mean? i might just cut it all off. i hadn't thought about employers looking at me differently though. do y'all really think that would happen? oh, and dbgirl--I love the bay! i would move there if it wasn't so daggone expensive.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ScurvyWench on July 22, 2005, 07:33:04 AM
fab, i haven't heard or seen twa used in a minute!!!!!

ok ladies, i am currently contemplating cutting my hair really really short. like a short natural. i had it like this before, like 3 years ago, then after a year I let it grow and its been going ever since. i think i'm motivated by the whole change of scenery, starting a new school, moving to a new place type of thing. what do y'all think?

When I first went natural, I did the "big chop" and was left with like half an inch of hair. Although I've been growing my hair out since then - a year and a half ago - I've always known that one day I'm gonna chop it all off again, just because the style is so damn cute and directs attention to my face moreso than longer styles. Plus, I love low maintenance hair styles, and it doesn't get much more low maintenance than a twa. I say go for it!  :)

Until I lose enough weight or turn 40. I'm going to drool over a beautiful woman's ability to wear a twa. I think I'm too heavy for it to look right now (I have a teeny head already), but when I'm 40 I won't care and I'll just want ease. There was this soloist at my church who I thought was the most beautiful and dignified looking woman EVER. She had a twa and since then, I've wanted one SO BAD!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 22, 2005, 07:36:43 AM
make it happen then scurvy and give yourself more credit, you look great in your aviator

fab, i haven't heard or seen twa used in a minute!!!!!

ok ladies, i am currently contemplating cutting my hair really really short. like a short natural. i had it like this before, like 3 years ago, then after a year I let it grow and its been going ever since. i think i'm motivated by the whole change of scenery, starting a new school, moving to a new place type of thing. what do y'all think?

When I first went natural, I did the "big chop" and was left with like half an inch of hair. Although I've been growing my hair out since then - a year and a half ago - I've always known that one day I'm gonna chop it all off again, just because the style is so damn cute and directs attention to my face moreso than longer styles. Plus, I love low maintenance hair styles, and it doesn't get much more low maintenance than a twa. I say go for it!  :)

Until I lose enough weight or turn 40. I'm going to drool over a beautiful woman's ability to wear a twa. I think I'm too heavy for it to look right now (I have a teeny head already), but when I'm 40 I won't care and I'll just want ease. There was this soloist at my church who I thought was the most beautiful and dignified looking woman EVER. She had a twa and since then, I've wanted one SO BAD!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on July 22, 2005, 08:19:04 AM
Yes my head is also small in proportion to my body, so I don't like the twa on myself.  Blq,  what is your view on wearing a wig while waiting for locs to grow?  Is that not kosher?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 22, 2005, 08:24:05 AM
thanks for the feedback guys. i might just cut it. we'll see. if i do, i'll post a picture.

mobell, you wear wigs? why do I feel like thats a southern thing? the only people I know who have/do are from the south. do you what makes you comfortable.  :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 22, 2005, 08:28:06 AM
i know you asked blk, but i think you should wing it mo, kim fields did it for her role on living single

Yes my head is also small in proportion to my body, so I don't like the twa on myself.  Blq,  what is your view on wearing a wig while waiting for locs to grow?  Is that not kosher?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on July 22, 2005, 08:34:44 AM
thanks for the feedback guys. i might just cut it. we'll see. if i do, i'll post a picture.

mobell, you wear wigs? why do I feel like thats a southern thing? the only people I know who have/do are from the south. do you what makes you comfortable.  :)

The wig thing is new.  I only recently learned that full wigs are socially acceptable (at least here.)

i know you asked blk, but i think you should wing it mo, kim fields did it for her role on living single

Yes my head is also small in proportion to my body, so I don't like the twa on myself.  Blq,  what is your view on wearing a wig while waiting for locs to grow?  Is that not kosher?

Lex, that's a good point about Tootie.  I'll see if I can find a good youthful one...the one I currently wear on occasion looks a little too old.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 22, 2005, 08:42:14 AM
Sorry, I'm a little late on this, but faith, I think you and your hair are very pretty.   ;)  I think that even if you did a short style, it would look good. I don't have the courage for a short hairdo myself, but to anyone that does . . .more power to you!!! ;D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 22, 2005, 08:43:29 AM
mo, i meant wing it, no wig homie, i'm not a fan really and faith what up!!!!!!!!!


thanks for the feedback guys. i might just cut it. we'll see. if i do, i'll post a picture.

mobell, you wear wigs? why do I feel like thats a southern thing? the only people I know who have/do are from the south. do you what makes you comfortable.  :)

The wig thing is new.  I only recently learned that full wigs are socially acceptable (at least here.)

i know you asked blk, but i think you should wing it mo, kim fields did it for her role on living single

Yes my head is also small in proportion to my body, so I don't like the twa on myself.  Blq,  what is your view on wearing a wig while waiting for locs to grow?  Is that not kosher?

Lex, that's a good point about Tootie.  I'll see if I can find a good youthful one...the one I currently wear on occasion looks a little too old.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 22, 2005, 08:44:23 AM
haha lex. nothing much is up. whats up with you?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lex19 on July 22, 2005, 08:47:28 AM
same ish girl, diff, day......oh everyone i'm getting myhair trimmed next week (gettin comfortable on the board) and i will post a pick of my fro after it's blown out, it's wild!


haha lex. nothing much is up. whats up with you?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 22, 2005, 10:31:47 AM
Mob.. I'm with lex.. wing it.. going natural is an experience and you need to embrace your hair for what it is you know? I've worn a wig before, but only when I was completely bald from the treatments.. not a fan at all :)... the moment I had more than eight strands of hair on my head I embraced it.. and it was sexy I might add ;)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Protocol on July 23, 2005, 12:36:33 PM
I have natural hair and I L-O-V-E it! I wear it out everyday. I just let it do it's own thing.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Fabyahluss on July 23, 2005, 01:05:54 PM
fab, i haven't heard or seen twa used in a minute!!!!!

LOL, yeah, I never heard it used either until I started goin on nappturality.com... If you haven't checked out the site, go visit! They have lots of helpful tips, as well as pics of cute styles...

same ish girl, diff, day......oh everyone i'm getting myhair trimmed next week (gettin comfortable on the board) and i will post a pick of my fro after it's blown out, it's wild!


When you go to the shop to get your hair trimmed, do you straighten it first? All the women that I've ever known who have natural hair and get it trimmed in the shop always straighten it first. I've always trimmed my hair myself, because I'm too nervous to have someone in the shop do it, since the people there are often unfamiliar with working with natural hair... I remember when I first got my hair cut at one of the salons that a friend of mine w/ locs recommended. Boyyy, I had never seen so much confusion in a salon before in my LIFE. All of the stylists were gathered around my head lookin perplexed and sayin, "ooooh, I don't know what to do with your hair girl. let me see if so and so can help." This was comin from a salon that allegedly specialized in natural hair, and yet every single person gettin their hair done that day had perms - not to mention the fact that they behaved as though they had never seen a natural head. That was the last time I set foot in a salon.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 23, 2005, 03:36:29 PM
Fab have you ever been to a natural hair salon?? there's too muh confusion in regular beauty shops...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Fabyahluss on July 23, 2005, 06:21:59 PM
Fab have you ever been to a natural hair salon?? there's too muh confusion in regular beauty shops...

That's the thing. The person who recommended the salon to me told me that they specialized in natural hair!  >:(

Unfortunately, I don't think they have any exclusive natural hair salons in my area...  :'(
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Burning Sands, Esq. on July 16, 2006, 02:05:06 PM
bump for the ladies
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 16, 2006, 03:29:46 PM
my old screen name, tear drop  :'(...
fab, i haven't heard or seen twa used in a minute!!!!!

LOL, yeah, I never heard it used either until I started goin on nappturality.com... If you haven't checked out the site, go visit! They have lots of helpful tips, as well as pics of cute styles...

same ish girl, diff, day......oh everyone i'm getting myhair trimmed next week (gettin comfortable on the board) and i will post a pick of my fro after it's blown out, it's wild!


When you go to the shop to get your hair trimmed, do you straighten it first? All the women that I've ever known who have natural hair and get it trimmed in the shop always straighten it first. I've always trimmed my hair myself, because I'm too nervous to have someone in the shop do it, since the people there are often unfamiliar with working with natural hair... I remember when I first got my hair cut at one of the salons that a friend of mine w/ locs recommended. Boyyy, I had never seen so much confusion in a salon before in my LIFE. All of the stylists were gathered around my head lookin perplexed and sayin, "ooooh, I don't know what to do with your hair girl. let me see if so and so can help." This was comin from a salon that allegedly specialized in natural hair, and yet every single person gettin their hair done that day had perms - not to mention the fact that they behaved as though they had never seen a natural head. That was the last time I set foot in a salon.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: dbgirl on July 16, 2006, 11:13:44 PM
I've been going to the gym a lot lately, what are some good gym friendly hairstyles?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on July 17, 2006, 12:34:45 AM
I've been going to the gym a lot lately, what are some good gym friendly hairstyles?

when i work out i tend to just wrap my hair really tight and put on a head tie...and my hair stays nice afterwards.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 17, 2006, 05:32:30 AM
I've been going to the gym a lot lately, what are some good gym friendly hairstyles?

I just pull it back and clip it (I use a regular clip, but you could also use a butterfly clip).  It's all pulled back off my face but loose enough that when I take it out my hair still has 'body' and 'movement'.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 17, 2006, 06:50:11 AM
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/editorial/15042128.htm (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/editorial/15042128.htm)
Charged debate about 'black hair' is flaring up again
BY ERIN AUBRY KAPLAN

When I was young, one of the first things I learned about myself was that I had "good" hair. It was curly and close enough to the texture of a white person's hair to not need pressing, hot-combing, greasing or some other method of straightening that extremely curly black hair — also known as kinky or "bad" hair — needed before it could venture out in public. Yet even my hair was not quite good enough.

Every Sunday my mother washed it, set it on rollers the size of frozen orange-juice cans and put me under a hair dryer for a couple of hours. When it was over, I had the ultimate "do" — smooth and swingy, with none of the wayward curl or frizz that would have confirmed my blackness as much as the Marlo Thomas look cleverly denied it.

I eventually learned early that this "denial" look was the ideal for black girls and women, and though I had to do less denying than most, I was not exempt.

I also learned that good hair on black people was considered good for reasons much deeper than convenience — it connoted assimilation, sophistication, intelligence, refinement, success. Even when I jettisoned the whole hair ritual and got a short, punky cut, I did it more to reject the limitations of an old paradigm than to celebrate a new one.

I might have saved my protest. Denial is still at the core of black hair fashion, which in turn is at the still-unstable core of black identity and acceptability in the United States in 2006. Although braids, dreadlocks and other natural black hairstyles have become more visible, perms, weaves and extensions for black women have become ubiquitous.

In short, the debate about the best choices for "black hair," always charged, is flaring up again. A Louisiana sheriff said this month that anyone on the streets in dreadlocks "can expect to be getting a visit from a sheriff's deputy" because a murder suspect answering that description remained at large. In April, Susan L. Taylor, the iconic editorial director of Essence magazine, canceled a campus speech when she discovered the college forbids its students to wear "unusual" hairstyles — including braids, which are Taylor's signature look. This was noteworthy because the college was Hampton University, one of the nation's oldest historically black campuses. Then it was discovered that Black Enterprise magazine had a similar ban for student interns.

The message is clear. If blacks want to have a chance in the increasingly unforgiving corporate world, they will have to shave off their edges — starting with their hair. To Taylor and to many others, including me, such a message implies a false choice between assimilation and self-affirmation. What looks like practicality is, in fact, more denial.

What's troubling is that, by being forced to change their hair, black people once again are being forced to shoulder the burden of proof: We're not as fearsome as we look. It's up to us to mitigate our dark skin and ethnic features by framing them with hair that's as neat and unethnic as possible.

That the requirement comes from black institutions only makes it more disturbing. Yes, they are inherently conservative institutions, but they understand the political significance of hair.

They should know that this is not the same as a dress code that calls for a suit and tie (understandable), or a Cosby-like antipathy toward trendy, sloppy, vaguely criminal black fashion such as baggy pants or expensive sneakers (understandable, but misplaced).

Unlike any of those looks, braids and other natural styles have long been associated with socially conscious and self-confident black people, the kind who would fit nicely in corporate settings that like to say diversity is a priority. But companies tend not to hire them, and black people with those hairstyles tend to gravitate toward work that's necessarily non-corporate. Yet surely we have all earned the right to wear our hair as we please. The freedom we're still working toward is supposed to be aesthetic as well as economic.

Mablean Ephriam, the black TV judge from Fox's popular "Divorce Court" — who says she lost her contract this year partly because of irreconcilable hair differences with the company — perhaps said it best in a contentious parting statement that concluded with a quote from Maya Angelou: "And still I rise." I trust she meant her hair.

Erin Aubry Kaplan is a journalist and writer born and raised in Los Angeles.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 17, 2006, 07:33:11 AM
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/editorial/15042128.htm (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/editorial/15042128.htm)
Charged debate about 'black hair' is flaring up again
BY ERIN AUBRY KAPLAN

When I was young, one of the first things I learned about myself was that I had "good" hair. It was curly and close enough to the texture of a white person's hair to not need pressing, hot-combing, greasing or some other method of straightening that extremely curly black hair — also known as kinky or "bad" hair — needed before it could venture out in public. Yet even my hair was not quite good enough.

Every Sunday my mother washed it, set it on rollers the size of frozen orange-juice cans and put me under a hair dryer for a couple of hours. When it was over, I had the ultimate "do" — smooth and swingy, with none of the wayward curl or frizz that would have confirmed my blackness as much as the Marlo Thomas look cleverly denied it.

I eventually learned early that this "denial" look was the ideal for black girls and women, and though I had to do less denying than most, I was not exempt.

I also learned that good hair on black people was considered good for reasons much deeper than convenience — it connoted assimilation, sophistication, intelligence, refinement, success. Even when I jettisoned the whole hair ritual and got a short, punky cut, I did it more to reject the limitations of an old paradigm than to celebrate a new one.

I might have saved my protest. Denial is still at the core of black hair fashion, which in turn is at the still-unstable core of black identity and acceptability in the United States in 2006. Although braids, dreadlocks and other natural black hairstyles have become more visible, perms, weaves and extensions for black women have become ubiquitous.

In short, the debate about the best choices for "black hair," always charged, is flaring up again. A Louisiana sheriff said this month that anyone on the streets in dreadlocks "can expect to be getting a visit from a sheriff's deputy" because a murder suspect answering that description remained at large. In April, Susan L. Taylor, the iconic editorial director of Essence magazine, canceled a campus speech when she discovered the college forbids its students to wear "unusual" hairstyles — including braids, which are Taylor's signature look. This was noteworthy because the college was Hampton University, one of the nation's oldest historically black campuses. Then it was discovered that Black Enterprise magazine had a similar ban for student interns.

The message is clear. If blacks want to have a chance in the increasingly unforgiving corporate world, they will have to shave off their edges — starting with their hair. To Taylor and to many others, including me, such a message implies a false choice between assimilation and self-affirmation. What looks like practicality is, in fact, more denial.

What's troubling is that, by being forced to change their hair, black people once again are being forced to shoulder the burden of proof: We're not as fearsome as we look. It's up to us to mitigate our dark skin and ethnic features by framing them with hair that's as neat and unethnic as possible.

That the requirement comes from black institutions only makes it more disturbing. Yes, they are inherently conservative institutions, but they understand the political significance of hair.

They should know that this is not the same as a dress code that calls for a suit and tie (understandable), or a Cosby-like antipathy toward trendy, sloppy, vaguely criminal black fashion such as baggy pants or expensive sneakers (understandable, but misplaced).

Unlike any of those looks, braids and other natural styles have long been associated with socially conscious and self-confident black people, the kind who would fit nicely in corporate settings that like to say diversity is a priority. But companies tend not to hire them, and black people with those hairstyles tend to gravitate toward work that's necessarily non-corporate. Yet surely we have all earned the right to wear our hair as we please. The freedom we're still working toward is supposed to be aesthetic as well as economic.

Mablean Ephriam, the black TV judge from Fox's popular "Divorce Court" — who says she lost her contract this year partly because of irreconcilable hair differences with the company — perhaps said it best in a contentious parting statement that concluded with a quote from Maya Angelou: "And still I rise." I trust she meant her hair.

Erin Aubry Kaplan is a journalist and writer born and raised in Los Angeles.


This was an interesting article.  I agree with much of it, but don't agree with how the hair issue is framed as us versus them.  If you have straight hair you're a shuffling Uncle Tom and if you have natural hair you're fighting the good fight.  I am not my hair, it shouldn't matter how your hair is in terms of others' perception of you.  Both of these stereotypes are harmful, because they make hair more important than it should be, in both positive and negative views.

In some ways it reminds me of the debate for working vs stay at home mothers.  Instead of recognising that both are viable choices both sides of the debate seem bent on vilifying each other (stay at home moms are lazy and stupid, working moms are selfish and neglect their children).  I wish we as women would spend more time building each other up and supporting each others' choices instead of attacking those who make different choices.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Lsassy on July 17, 2006, 10:46:19 AM
"Unlike any of those looks, braids and other natural styles have long been associated with socially conscious and self-confident black people, the kind who would fit nicely in corporate settings that like to say diversity is a priority. But companies tend not to hire them, and black people with those hairstyles tend to gravitate toward work that's necessarily non-corporate. Yet surely we have all earned the right to wear our hair as we please. The freedom we're still working toward is supposed to be aesthetic as well as economic."

First of, MoniLi, you took the words out of my mouth.  I've been thinking about the hair debate and I saw the striking resemblance to the stay-at-home vs working mom debate.

I do have have relaxed hair but it is certainly not an indication of my wanting to be white...or that I am not socially conscious or self confident.  Anybody who knows me well can attest to that and I could care less about people who look at my hair as an indicator of my personality.  It is simply simplistic.

Who are we to dictate what other people should do with their bodies?  I am pro-choice in every sense of the word.  If someone chooses to go natural, then good for them and if they don't, then good for them.  My best friend wears her hair naturally, and it is beautiful.  That does not prevent her from thinking that my hair looks pretty good as well.

Also in one of the threads someone mentioned that black women cannot remember what their natural hair looked like because it has been straigthened since they were 12-13 years old.  You gotta be kidding me, I can remember details from my life since I was four or five years old, and I vividly remember what my hair looked like before it was relaxed, in fact, I am reminded every two to three months what it looked like.  It is more practical for me to straighten my hair, period.

Also "creamy crack" as someone referred to it will not cause the death of black (and Latina) women before cancer, AIDs, and other things will.

And this is absurd, we're discussing hair when a war is about to break out in the Middle East... ???

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on July 17, 2006, 11:22:25 AM
there's always a war in the Middle East.  what will my discussing it do to change that?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Lsassy on July 17, 2006, 11:28:33 AM
Well then moooobell, as your tar says: I am not my hair.  I'd be more interested in seeing you address the other parts of my posting.

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on July 17, 2006, 11:38:05 AM
Well then moooobell, as your tar says: I am not my hair.  I'd be more interested in seeing you address the other parts of my posting.



I think most people are either joking or talking about themselves only when they say relaxed hair = colonization.  I mean, it does defy logic to burn your scalp all up and spend thousands of dollars over a lifetime on that stuff, but to each his/her own. If black women stopped worrying about our hair so much, whether crackified or natural ;), we'd be much more productive.  My only point was that the Middle East is not necessarily a better conversation topic and that generally, the post was a bit condescending.

And now, back to work for me!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 17, 2006, 11:46:13 AM
Well then moooobell, as your tar says: I am not my hair.  I'd be more interested in seeing you address the other parts of my posting.



I think most people are either joking or talking about themselves only when they say relaxed hair = colonization.  I mean, it does defy logic to burn your scalp all up and spend thousands of dollars over a lifetime on that stuff, but to each his/her own. If black women stopped worrying about our hair so much, whether crackified or natural ;), we'd be much more productive.  My only point was that the Middle East is not necessarily a better conversation topic and that generally, the post was a bit condescending.

And now, back to work for me!

Natural aint necessarily free!  In fact, I'm holding off on any decisions at this point because I can't afford to go natural!   :o
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 17, 2006, 12:00:58 PM


In some ways it reminds me of the debate for working vs stay at home mothers.  Instead of recognising that both are viable choices both sides of the debate seem bent on vilifying each other (stay at home moms are lazy and stupid, working moms are selfish and neglect their children).  I wish we as women would spend more time building each other up and supporting each others' choices instead of attacking those who make different choices.

I am a bit confused as to why this issue (and the stay at home mom issue) is being called a debate.  Stating that natural hair has been associated with social conciousness and self-confidence does not mean that it is a criteria for such. In fact she stated "...surely we have all earned the right to wear our hair as we please."  Natural hair plays a big part in the diversity in our appearances but unfortunately it seems to be the less socially acceptable part and I would agree that people who go against the norm to express themselves indeed demonstrate a level of self-confidence that many do not have.  People can wear a relaxer, perm, weave or whatever, it still can't be denied that plenty of woman gravitate to many of these styles and practices  to escape a self-consciousness that is deep rooted in a legacy of a degraded self-image.     
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 17, 2006, 12:17:07 PM


In some ways it reminds me of the debate for working vs stay at home mothers.  Instead of recognising that both are viable choices both sides of the debate seem bent on vilifying each other (stay at home moms are lazy and stupid, working moms are selfish and neglect their children).  I wish we as women would spend more time building each other up and supporting each others' choices instead of attacking those who make different choices.

I am a bit confused as to why this issue (and the stay at home mom issue) is being called a debate.  Stating that natural hair has been associated with social conciousness and self-confidence does not mean that it is a criteria for such. In fact she stated "...surely we have all earned the right to wear our hair as we please."  Natural hair plays a big part in the diversity in our appearances but unfortunately it seems to be the less socially acceptable part and I would agree that people who go against the norm to express themselves indeed demonstrate a level of self-confidence that many do not have.  People can wear a relaxer, perm, weave or whatever, it still can't be denied that plenty of woman gravitate to many of these styles and practices  to escape a self-consciousness that is deep rooted in a legacy of a degraded self-image.     

Both issues are called a debate because they are characterised by statements that pit one side against the other.  Stating that women who have natural hair are more self-confident is not saying that hair doesn't matter.  Assigning a value to natural hair makes it matter.  It's analogous to the larger woman who says that size doesn't matter, than makes fun of skinny b*tches.  The bolded statement definitely has a derogatory tone.

Bottom line: either hair matters or it doesn't.  This argument is contradictory because it implies that hair doesn't matter, then assigns a value to a certain type of hair (which means it does matter).
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 17, 2006, 12:47:50 PM
I wouldn't characterize it as a debate because I don't see how assigning a value to one thing implies that something, that is different from that thing, can't be valued as well.  In the working mother conversation opinions were expressed about peoples preferences.  Giving preference to wanting to stay at home does not discredit a desire to work. 

"woman who wear there hair natural are confident" =/= "woman who do not wear their hair natural are not confident".....It is obvious that hair matters to the author b/c the time was taken to write an entire article on the topic.  I think what she was getting at is that is "matters" in a less favorable way for women who choose to wear natural styles when it comes to hiring practices and treatment in corporate settings.     
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on July 17, 2006, 02:09:16 PM
I wouldn't characterize it as a debate because I don't see how assigning a value to one thing implies that something, that is different from that thing, can't be valued as well.  In the working mother conversation opinions were expressed about peoples preferences.  Giving preference to wanting to stay at home does not discredit a desire to work. 

"woman who wear there hair natural are confident" =/= "woman who do not wear their hair natural are not confident".....It is obvious that hair matters to the author b/c the time was taken to write an entire article on the topic.  I think what she was getting at is that it "matters" in a less favorable way for women who choose to wear natural styles when it comes to hiring practices and treatment in corporate settings.    

This is correct, which is why I'm really worried about OCI this fall. Would probably be in like flynn if I were thinner and had the cream of fire. :-\
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Lsassy on July 17, 2006, 02:18:47 PM
I believe this thread was bumped because different hair styles were being debated in another thread on this site, I guess that's why I refer to it as  debate.  In fact, it was not a mere "here is what I think...", it was certainly framed as a relaxed=colonized (or at best, colonized but too naive to recognize it) or a natural=enlightened debate.

To moooobell, I noticed that I was bit condescending after I posted (sorry), but in the whole you seem to agree with me: "We are not our hair" :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 17, 2006, 04:31:38 PM
hair matters to us...let's not pretend that it doesn't....

for those of us that have opted to rid ourselves of the processed look for whatever reason..we still spend an arm and a leg buying products...getting roots twisted (for those with locs or twists)..making sure we have maintained tresses.... spending extra time on our look when we go to interviews..or step in to work..or step out on a night on the town..

bottom line is that we all want to look good and take care of ourselves..we use different methods of doing so.... but i will say that my hair was not as healthy with a perm as it is now..i had some serious issues with dandruff and extreme dryness during those permmed days...

and lawd knows i do NOT miss spending hours at the hair salon..waiting for my hair dresser to finish the five heads before me at 9 am (u know i'm not lying)..or for her to eat lunch..don't miss the smells of the mizani/aveda perms..none of that....

and i am so grateful that i don't have to worry about the wind/rain (u know water is a permmed head's kryptonite)/heat affecting my do ;D....

Mob i don't think u're going to have any problems at OCI..if you aren't confident in your own twisting skills then try to save some money to have your roots twisted for the interviews and you'll be just fine.. and come on now.. Yale Law Journal?? they'd be a fool not to hire you chica ;)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on July 17, 2006, 06:22:35 PM
I wouldn't characterize it as a debate because I don't see how assigning a value to one thing implies that something, that is different from that thing, can't be valued as well.  In the working mother conversation opinions were expressed about peoples preferences.  Giving preference to wanting to stay at home does not discredit a desire to work. 

"woman who wear there hair natural are confident" =/= "woman who do not wear their hair natural are not confident".....It is obvious that hair matters to the author b/c the time was taken to write an entire article on the topic.  I think what she was getting at is that it "matters" in a less favorable way for women who choose to wear natural styles when it comes to hiring practices and treatment in corporate settings.    

This is correct, which is why I'm really worried about OCI this fall. Would probably be in like flynn if I were thinner and had the cream of fire. :-\

Mo, my firm has a summer (black female) with natural hair.  She's not overweight, but she's not blonde-haired and blue-eyed size either.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: CocoPuff on July 18, 2006, 02:17:58 PM
I absolutely LOVE natural hair, I think it's the most beautiful thing ever. But I've always worried, even more so after reading that article, that corporate America wouldn't be as in love with it as I am. Would they really not hire a qualified person because of the way they choose to wear their hair?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 18, 2006, 02:24:44 PM
Would they really not hire a qualified person because of the way they choose to wear their hair?

Yes.  If you were a high-powered firm (which, by definition, is conservative), would you hire someone with a neon green mohawk?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 18, 2006, 02:27:09 PM
alci! you know she was asking about black women with natural hair.

cocopuff--i don't know if its a big problem. i have natural hair and i got a corporate job--but it was a diversity program. i have friends who work at firms and have natural hair. both short and long. stay up!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 18, 2006, 02:38:09 PM
alci! you know she was asking about black women with natural hair.

 ;)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on July 18, 2006, 03:57:58 PM
http://www.omm.com/webcode/navigate.asp?nodehandle=31&idContent=4728

She has natural hair ;D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 18, 2006, 04:02:01 PM
she's beautiful..looking forward to my locs reaching that length
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on July 18, 2006, 04:03:43 PM
http://www.omm.com/webcode/navigate.asp?nodehandle=31&idContent=4728

She has natural hair ;D

Of course with a cv that reads like this, one can overlook a flaw or two ;)

Education
Yale Law School, J.D., 2000: Articles Editor, Yale Law Journal
Harvard University, A.B., 1996: magna cum laude; Harvard National Scholar

Professional Activities
Law Clerk, Honorable Stephen G. Breyer, U.S. Supreme Court; Honorable Guido Calabresi, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit
Admitted, Washington, D.C.; New York
Co-Author, "Developments in Policy — The Two Faces of Gag Provisions: Patients and Physicians in a Bind," Yale Law & Policy Review (1998)
Temple Bar Scholar, American Inns of Court (2003)
Languages, Portuguese (fluent); French; Spanish
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on July 18, 2006, 04:23:04 PM
http://www.omm.com/webcode/navigate.asp?nodehandle=31&idContent=4728

She has natural hair ;D

Of course with a cv that reads like this, one can overlook a flaw or two ;)

Education
Yale Law School, J.D., 2000: Articles Editor, Yale Law Journal
Harvard University, A.B., 1996: magna cum laude; Harvard National Scholar

Professional Activities
Law Clerk, Honorable Stephen G. Breyer, U.S. Supreme Court; Honorable Guido Calabresi, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit
Admitted, Washington, D.C.; New York
Co-Author, "Developments in Policy — The Two Faces of Gag Provisions: Patients and Physicians in a Bind," Yale Law & Policy Review (1998)
Temple Bar Scholar, American Inns of Court (2003)
Languages, Portuguese (fluent); French; Spanish


The obvious maturity of her locs means she got a couple of firm jobs and some really phat clerkships with natural hair - before her CV was looking like that.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on July 18, 2006, 05:52:38 PM
http://www.omm.com/webcode/navigate.asp?nodehandle=31&idContent=4728

She has natural hair ;D

Of course with a cv that reads like this, one can overlook a flaw or two ;)

Education
Yale Law School, J.D., 2000: Articles Editor, Yale Law Journal
Harvard University, A.B., 1996: magna cum laude; Harvard National Scholar

Professional Activities
Law Clerk, Honorable Stephen G. Breyer, U.S. Supreme Court; Honorable Guido Calabresi, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit
Admitted, Washington, D.C.; New York
Co-Author, "Developments in Policy — The Two Faces of Gag Provisions: Patients and Physicians in a Bind," Yale Law & Policy Review (1998)
Temple Bar Scholar, American Inns of Court (2003)
Languages, Portuguese (fluent); French; Spanish


The obvious maturity of her locs means she got a couple of firm jobs and some really phat clerkships with natural hair - before her CV was looking like that.

true, in any case, I was joking.  Mo, that's you in a couple years!  ;)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Roxie on July 18, 2006, 05:55:26 PM
I don't think those of us with perms, those of us that are in between, and those of us that are natural have anything to worry about.  Of course, we are worried about perception, but there are some black people with natural hair that are Republicans with white spouses.  There are others that are permed out that are the exact opposite.  You can't judge a book by its cover.  The only black associate at the firm I am workin at has braids.  The only black female partner is dark as a Hershey bar.  Do you -- and if the firm you are looking at has a problem with your hair, complexion, or anything else, you didn't want to work in their funky office anyway.  

It's all about YOU -- not them!  Remember that and everything else will fall into place.  
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 20, 2006, 04:15:48 PM
Ladies,

So today, while running errands I had an epiphany and have decided that I'm gonna loc my hair. I cut off all of my permmed ends in April of 02' and have hit a ceiling with my hair, not that I do much with it to begin with, lol. I love my curls, but there's always something happening to prevent it from growing past my shoulders if it were straight like being burnt up from a horrible press, not getting my ends trimmed often enough (i know i should know better) or a horrible trim (4 effing inches!!!!!) Plus I am my mothers child and won't do much with my hair unless I go to the shop and that's not something I have to do with it in its natural state.

I haven't locked my hair yet b/c I say that it's too much of a "commitment" but anyone who knows me knows that I'm the number one bs'er around and there's more to it since i'm such a fan. and as "unbrainwashed" as I think I am from the status quo, I'm not which was one of the biggest reasons why I went natural in the first place. Every day wheN I look in the mirror I'll never be able to front or forget who I am b/c my hair keeps me in check, which is big for me especially with my future aspirations. Plus doing so while I'm in school is perfect for transitioning.

So as I'm driving I'm thinking, "yup, it's about to go down" then I look to the right and see my CK Bradley tote and think, "how the hell does a person with locs rock a bag like that"? Then I was like man it's just not gonna fit with my style (very conservative, preppy, new englandish) and then I'm like WAIT a minute lex, I'm thinking about what others may think when they see me and quickly snap myself out the negative mind set and focused on how fly me and my locs will be  ;D

Excuse the rant but I needed to tell someone about my decision and my girls are all busy and blsd is another other place where I know I can get some info on this process. I know Mo just locked her hair and Inquired had locs and Blk has been going strong but if there's anyone else out there, you're two cents would be greatly appreciated......my questions are

1) will it take longer than a year for my hair to fully loc/catch? My hair is pretty long, if it was blown straight it would hit my shoulders and lil bit past. if it was blown out in a fro, well imagine something like angela davis or luda......

2) Most importantly, where can I go to start this process in NYC or DC, where would y'all recommend? I had a spot in DC, the woman who used to trim my hair had the most incredible locs ever but I refuse to go back on principle (4 effing inches!!!!!.)




Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 20, 2006, 05:26:44 PM
aw lex, i've been thinking about it too but the committment thing is what's holding me back. a frind of mine said that i shouldn't even sweat that b/c with a good stylist I can put my locs into any style I want. i still haven't reached that point though. i'm sure they'll look great. And Hartford is all Jamaican (I know there are Jamaicans who look down on locs, but I feel like there have to be some who don't) and there are a number of NYC transplants too so I'm sure there is someone there who does natural hair.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 20, 2006, 05:41:08 PM
do it do it do it do it :) ..... I don't think it'll take longer than a year and a half if that for it to lock completely....we can hope for a year but with your length I'm almost sure that it'll take those extra few months especially in the front...

for DC I'd suggest Cornrows and Company....I went there until I began twisting my own hair...or Uhuru went there a couple of times as well but prefer C&C

as for NYC a friend of mine goes to Khamit Kinks on the regular and loves it...I know they're more pricey than the DC spots I mentioned though..

I wouldn't say I'm New Englandish seeing that I'm from Chicago...but our styles are very similar... conservative (save political party lol)... definitely preppy...

trust you can rock the tote and the sunglasses with the locks....

but back on the issue of being concerned about others' thoughts..forget them...as long as you're content with you that's all that matters...

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 20, 2006, 05:47:17 PM
lex do you consider yourself republican?  :'( say it ain't so...i'm an independent but i've been thinking of joining the facebook group--whenever a black person supports the republican party a little piece of me dies.  :'(
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: jerrica benton on July 20, 2006, 07:38:24 PM
i dunno if this has been mentioned, but i think 95% of black women with relaxers just need to stop bc their hair looks awful (stringy, broken, raggedy, etc.)

i think it is pathetic that 37% of the posters said they wouldnt rock a fro, when chances r that the hair of some of these very same people looks awful.

thoughts?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on July 20, 2006, 08:21:12 PM
Ladies,

So today, while running errands I had an epiphany and have decided that I'm gonna loc my hair. I cut off all of my permmed ends in April of 02' and have hit a ceiling with my hair, not that I do much with it to begin with, lol. I love my curls, but there's always something happening to prevent it from growing past my shoulders if it were straight like being burnt up from a horrible press, not getting my ends trimmed often enough (i know i should know better) or a horrible trim (4 effing inches!!!!!) Plus I am my mothers child and won't do much with my hair unless I go to the shop and that's not something I have to do with it in its natural state.

I haven't locked my hair yet b/c I say that it's too much of a "commitment" but anyone who knows me knows that I'm the number one bs'er around and there's more to it since i'm such a fan. and as "unbrainwashed" as I think I am from the status quo, I'm not which was one of the biggest reasons why I went natural in the first place. Every day wheN I look in the mirror I'll never be able to front or forget who I am b/c my hair keeps me in check, which is big for me especially with my future aspirations. Plus doing so while I'm in school is perfect for transitioning.

So as I'm driving I'm thinking, "yup, it's about to go down" then I look to the right and see my CK Bradley tote and think, "how the hell does a person with locs rock a bag like that"? Then I was like man it's just not gonna fit with my style (very conservative, preppy, new englandish) and then I'm like WAIT a minute lex, I'm thinking about what others may think when they see me and quickly snap myself out the negative mind set and focused on how fly me and my locs will be  ;D

Excuse the rant but I needed to tell someone about my decision and my girls are all busy and blsd is another other place where I know I can get some info on this process. I know Mo just locked her hair and Inquired had locs and Blk has been going strong but if there's anyone else out there, you're two cents would be greatly appreciated......my questions are

1) will it take longer than a year for my hair to fully loc/catch? My hair is pretty long, if it was blown straight it would hit my shoulders and lil bit past. if it was blown out in a fro, well imagine something like angela davis or luda......

2) Most importantly, where can I go to start this process in NYC or DC, where would y'all recommend? I had a spot in DC, the woman who used to trim my hair had the most incredible locs ever but I refuse to go back on principle (4 effing inches!!!!!.)


1) It takes about a year or so for most peoples hair to FULLY loc, but a much shorter time for the loc to start forming or catching (usually 3 -6 months). You can start locs from two strand twists (and that's generally the best way to go if you have significant length) and they will still look nice.  For a look at a woman who started her locs from two strands, go to naani.com and look up a "model member" named Tubby (or something like that) Her hair is VERY nice - and she has a detailed story about her locking process on the site.

2) I don't go anywhere to do my hair, but when I did I went to Nappy by Nature in Baltimore (for three months until my hair started catching).  I've heard good things about a place called "Natural Shapes" in D.C. (but I've heard good things about C&C as well).

3) Girl, you can wear and do whatever you want with locs.  Having your hair in locs does not mean you stop enjoying carrying nice bags and wearing cute shoes.  There are quite a bit of "earth mother" types with locs, but there are also a lot of women who rock all kinds of styles and have beautiful locs (just keep them up if you have a more "pulled together" personal style) 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 20, 2006, 08:40:26 PM
good looks ladies, my only hesitation is that it will take at least 18 months for my hair to loc up, that's a long time.........and no faith i'm not a republican by nature but i do agree with some of the stuff they have to say  ;)


jerrica, every time i see your tar i think, " JEM!!! truly outrageous, outrageous"
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: jerrica benton on July 20, 2006, 08:50:36 PM


jerrica, every time i see your tar i think, " JEM!!! truly outrageous, outrageous"


as well u should!

SO GLAMOROUS AND GLITTERY!  SO FASHIONABLE AND FAMOUS!

i <3 jem
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on July 21, 2006, 12:16:38 AM
i dunno if this has been mentioned, but i think 95% of black women with relaxers just need to stop bc their hair looks awful (stringy, broken, raggedy, etc.)

i think it is pathetic that 37% of the posters said they wouldnt rock a fro, when chances r that the hair of some of these very same people looks awful.

thoughts?

what black women do you know/see?  i don't see that a lot and i live in BK
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on July 21, 2006, 12:19:26 AM
good looks ladies, my only hesitation is that it will take at least 18 months for my hair to loc up, that's a long time.........and no faith i'm not a republican by nature but i do agree with some of the stuff they have to say  ;)


jerrica, every time i see your tar i think, " JEM!!! truly outrageous, outrageous"

best cartoon series ever! and i actually have the whole series on tape  ;D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Anne Shirley on July 21, 2006, 12:06:25 PM
Hey, ladies.  I'll be applying for fall 2007.  I've had locs (sisterlocks) for five years and I love my hair more every day. When my hair was relaxed, I couldn't get it past about chin length. 

This is me now:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2757/1878/1024/000_0953.jpg

and a few years ago:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2757/1878/1024/100_0268.jpg

In regard to the discussion on locked lawyers.  I have a friend who works in a firm and has locs.
Here she is before locs:
http://www.finnegan.com/lawyers/index.cfm?id=1518

and after:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6919/1423/640/101_0453.jpg
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6919/1423/640/PICT0009-1.jpg

She doesn't have any problems with her hair at work, but also has great credentials: PhD, prestigious schools, etc. 

I am worried about interviews with firms, but definitely not worried enough to consider cutting or changing my hair.  That stays.  They'll just have to accept me "as is".

Lex Boogie,

I think you would love locs.  There are a great many advantages to them including being able to fearlessly walk in the rain.  I feel like my hair and I are no longer at war, with me fighting the good fight against my natural texture.  Now we're more in sync because I'm allowing it to "do what it do".

If you do opt for locs, just make sure that you start them off right.  The way you start them is the way they'll be.  I chose Sisterlocks because I loved the meticulous parts and the styleability of the thinner locs.  I love thicker locs too, and have seen gorgeous styles with those as well. 

My style is pretty conservative also.  I mostly wear my hair straight (freestyle) and sometimes pulled back in a low ponytail.  It looks great curled too. 

It took my hair only six months to lock, but I have a verytight curl pattern (read naps ;D).

If you have any question, feel free to pm me.  I'll be out most of the weekend but would love to hear from you.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on July 21, 2006, 02:10:07 PM
Lex! Yay!!!

I'm very new and still working out my maintenance issues, but I must say that I highly recommend Khamit Kinks if you get them done in NYC.  Go on Tuesday or Wednesday and starters will cost you $70.  That's much cheaper than most of the nice shops in BK!

Also, I'm no earth mother either.  My style is random - sometimes preppy w/pearls and argyle, sometimes a bit funkier, usually whatever matches.  Locs are very versatile, esp. once they form up and you can style them more.  yay! ;D

Time of locing - my hair is crazy and unpredictable.  4 months in, the top is nowhere near locing but the back is locing well (strange because my hair is way straighter in the back than in the front.)

As for women with messed up relaxers, I live in BK right now and see this ALL the time!  I see about four different things on people's heads around here: loose naturals of varying hair health (as coloring, etc. can damage that too), locs, WEAVES (I see these most often), and bad relaxers with visible hair damage. There is the occasional good relaxer with no weave, but I don't see it often :-\
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 21, 2006, 02:23:47 PM
what do you mean by starters mo? i just called and their 2 strands twists begin at $100 and i was rigggghhhhhtttt, but who knows i may run down there this weekend and just get it done


Lex! Yay!!!

I'm very new and still working out my maintenance issues, but I must say that I highly recommend Khamit Kinks if you get them done in NYC.  Go on Tuesday or Wednesday and starters will cost you $70.  That's much cheaper than most of the nice shops in BK!

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 21, 2006, 02:34:27 PM
faith you should loc your hair too, dooooooooooooooo ittttttttt
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on July 21, 2006, 03:49:32 PM
i just called and their 2 strands twists begin at $100 and i was rigggghhhhhtttt, but who knows i may run down there this weekend and just get it done

Girl... if you do your own two-strands and they look nice and neat when you do them, you can start your own hair and just go to the shop for "loc maintenance" in two weeks (or when they start looking raggedy). It should be much cheaper that way, since shops tend to charge more to start hair than they do for upkeep.

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on July 21, 2006, 04:25:23 PM
what do you mean by starters mo? i just called and their 2 strands twists begin at $100 and i was rigggghhhhhtttt, but who knows i may run down there this weekend and just get it done


Lex! Yay!!!

I'm very new and still working out my maintenance issues, but I must say that I highly recommend Khamit Kinks if you get them done in NYC.  Go on Tuesday or Wednesday and starters will cost you $70.  That's much cheaper than most of the nice shops in BK!


Did you ask about the specials on Tuesdays and Wednesdays?  If you ask for "starter locs," you get a different answer than asking about two strands.  That said, your hair is long, which means that you can't get palmrolls or comb coils to start, which I think is what they mean.  Unfortunately, $100 is STILL cheaper than just MAINTENANCE at most of the places around here.  But if you can do your own parts and two strands, you might want to go that route.  Or get someone else to do them for you.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 21, 2006, 04:35:14 PM
i usually have my mom twist my hair for me since i moved home (she does the damn thing) but think i'll stick with a professional so they're not too small (she has a tendancy to go over overboard) or too big for the size loc i'm looking for.......but maybe, who knows
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 21, 2006, 05:07:23 PM
has anyone ever heard of Natty Dreads in the bronx??

http://www.nattydreadz.com/
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on July 21, 2006, 05:18:02 PM
Unfortunately, $100 is STILL cheaper than just MAINTENANCE at most of the places around here. 

Are you serious?!?!?! That is a shame.  :(  In the places I've heard of down here, they might charge $60 -70 to "start" locs and $35 -50 to "maintain" them. 

Lex, your hair will change "size" after it starts to loc.  After my first appointment, I was a little mad at the hairstylist b/c I thought my parts were too large and my coils were too small. She assured me that my hair was not going to look crazy by the time they grew out. Almost two years later, I'm pretty pleased with the result...
     *As a sidenote, my first vist was actually a start/maintain visit.  I'd had a friend start my locs, but I looked wild by the head, so I went to the shop and she charged me for a maintenance even though she had to redo most of my parts and completely re-twist my entire head of hair* 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 21, 2006, 05:21:35 PM
even though my moms can freak the hell out of two strand twists i want to make sure it's done correctly the first time around, i just wont have the time in a few weeks with moving, starting school and al that good stuff.........

thanks for the naani site too inquirer!

   *As a sidenote, my first vist was actually a start/maintain visit.  I'd had a friend start my locs, but I looked wild by the head, so I went to the shop and she charged me for a maintenance even though she had to redo most of my parts and completely re-twist my entire head of hair* 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on July 21, 2006, 05:35:20 PM
even though my moms can freak the hell out of two strand twists i want to make sure it's done correctly the first time around, i just wont have the time in a few weeks with moving, starting school and al that good stuff.........

thanks for the naani site too inquirer!


I understand that.  When I started my hair, it was a few weeks before the start of the school year (I was teaching then).  My friend meant well, but it didn't work out, so I had to get them professionally done. There was no way I was gonna look crazy in front of a bunch of high school students.  I really do think it's a good idea to get your hair profesionally done at first (probably b/c that's what I did) until your hair is to the point where it wont come out when you wash it, and then you can do it yourself if you feel so inclined :)

I think that site is really helpful and the pictures are great, so you're welcome  :)  I got directions on how to self-color my locs from there (Im actually about to color them again) and the members seem pretty pleased with the products too (I've never tried those before though).  I thought about taking out the bottom of my locs like Tubby did, but I'm not too sure I want to do that just yet
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 21, 2006, 05:55:41 PM
yeah i'm def gonna bring my behind to the shop for the fist 6 months or so b/c i know myself and am LAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZY, lol....now i just have to find a sponser for this new expense  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 21, 2006, 09:22:39 PM
mobell, have you been to or heard anything about these shops; Salon Glitter in New Haven and Baswa Hair Cultivating Studio in Bloomfield??
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 21, 2006, 11:28:53 PM
mobell, have you been to or heard anything about these shops; Salon Glitter in New Haven and Baswa Hair Cultivating Studio in Bloomfield??

I've been to Salon Glitter and a good friend of mine goes there for loc maitenance.  she does a pretty good job + gives student discounts. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 22, 2006, 07:36:49 AM
whats the vibe like and so they do permmed hair to? also does the person your friend go to wear locs too, if so are they nice, would you recommend someone else to go there?

mobell, have you been to or heard anything about these shops; Salon Glitter in New Haven and Baswa Hair Cultivating Studio in Bloomfield??

I've been to Salon Glitter and a good friend of mine goes there for loc maitenance.  she does a pretty good job + gives student discounts. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 22, 2006, 08:11:22 AM
okay y'all, so i just called both salons up that i mentioned above in CT and have an appt for next saturday with baswa!!!!!!!!

plus i found out that they only use carols daughter and black earth products which is a plus b/c i'm really picky about what goes on my hair and if i can't pronounce and its not shampooo or conditioner then it's not for me.

salon glitter said they used jam & braids (a product line) to twist locs which almost made me hang the phone up when the woman told me and to boot the receptionist didnt know what a loctician was.

and best of all, their prices start at $55 which sounds sooo much better than $100....oh and they are gonna do comb coils instead of two strand twists which i think is really crazy seeing that my hair is soooo long but whatever 80% of their clients have locs and 3 of the 4 stylist/owners are locked so it should be good.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on July 22, 2006, 09:55:05 AM
wow - great lex! i was planning on going to salon glitter, but i'm interested in this baswa place. where is bloomfield?  salon glitter is easy 'cause it's right around the corner, and I'd probably just ask her to use my products since I already have Carol's Daughter and am soon going to order Oyin.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 22, 2006, 09:57:36 AM
bloomfield is a suburb of hartford (i'm assuming its inbetween hartford & new haven) and prolly a 30 minute drive from new haven, we could make our appointments together mo!!!

oh and i would def just bring in my own product to salon glitter is it was my only option
wow - great lex! i was planning on going to salon glitter, but i'm interested in this baswa place. where is bloomfield?  salon glitter is easy 'cause it's right around the corner, and I'd probably just ask her to use my products since I already have Carol's Daughter and am soon going to order Oyin.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on July 22, 2006, 10:07:12 AM
YAYAYAY!!!!!

I am soooo excited for you ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 22, 2006, 07:50:50 PM
good stuff lex--i have a friend from bloomfield thats funny they have a loctician b/c it always seemed like a fake place. you know how ct has all of those little towns.  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Anne Shirley on July 23, 2006, 09:00:41 AM
The links work on my computer.  Anybody got tips on how to post pics/links?  Maybe I'm missing something.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 26, 2006, 04:31:52 PM
so i have two days till my appt to start locking my hair and i'm scurrred as hell. i've been looking at alot of photo albums on fokti & nappturality and ummmmm, i don't know if i can weather the transition process. patience is something that's always been difficult for me and is oh so necessary when locking your hair. for those of y'all who have been through this, going through it, how in the hell did you make it work??

i mean don't get me wrong, im not trying to offend anyone but i'm conscience as hell about my appearance and although i'm quick to wear sweats for weeks on end and take a quarter of the time to get ready to go out than my girls (they take 4 ever, always making us late regardless  >:() there are some things like my hair that need to be correct. don't get me wrong you will catch me looking like a motherless child once in a while but i'm pretty sure from my research that my locs will be going through "awkward" stages for at least the first 6 months and won't fully loc/mature/catch for at least a year. that's a long ass time to be second guessing myself. i'm positive that i'll be more than satisfied when my hair does loc, but i've always been able to get up, look in the mirror flash a colgate and feel good as hell about myself. i know what you're thinking, "lex is really hung up on aesthetics" and you're right, i am. but who isn't...just a weeeee lil bit (trying to make myself feel better  :D)??

i never thought the transition to locs would be that difficult for me b/c i've gone from permming to natural and it was like cake, but then i realized i went natural when cornrows were the hottest thing out for females (circa, alicia keys & fallin and the whole "neo soul" movement) so it wasn't anything really. this is a whole nother beast...

edited: plus one of my best friends was going natural at the same time as me and i think about 3/4 of my closest friends were natural, whereas i can only think of 1 friend who's female and has locs. a couple of my guy friends have locs but they don't count, transitioning is def different for them.

so ladies & fellas if you're out there how'd you make it work? was it by keeping up on your hair by doing it yourself, a friend or going to the shop? just saying "buck it" and letting your swagger make up for the difficult days?

hopefully no one takes this the wrong way  ;)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on July 26, 2006, 05:30:34 PM
Ha ha Lex you're hilarious!!!!  ;D As Kanye said, we all self-conscious I'm just the first to admit it.  ;)  I don't have locs so I'm not responding to five you some advice (sorry  :( ) about how to maintain it.  All I can say is you'll be in school and pro'ly not have much time for socializing and going out.  Your law school homies pro'ly won't give a ish about how your hair looks (unless they find out you're getting better grades than them and want to hate), and if you snag a man looking torn up (assuming you don't have one now) then he's pro'ly a keeper  ;) so maintain your swagger and shake those locs!  Just make sure you got it on point when you have an interview or a hot date!  ;) :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 26, 2006, 05:39:30 PM
md, i don't care what other ppl think, (except for tyson, denzel, idris, boris you get it  :D ;)) i'm talking about my own satisfication with myself and how i look....and where're i'm going there won't be too many dates or big nights out so i'm a be okay in that regard, lol saving that for the summer time

Ha ha Lex you're hilarious!!!!  ;D As Kanye said, we all self-conscious I'm just the first to admit it.  ;)  I don't have locs so I'm not responding to five you some advice (sorry  :( ) about how to maintain it.  All I can say is you'll be in school and pro'ly not have much time for socializing and going out.  Your law school homies pro'ly won't give a ish about how your hair looks (unless they find out you're getting better grades than them and want to hate), and if you snag a man looking torn up (assuming you don't have one now) then he's pro'ly a keeper  ;) so maintain your swagger and shake those locs!  Just make sure you got it on point when you have an interview or a hot date!  ;) :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on July 26, 2006, 05:41:25 PM
md, i don't care what other ppl think, (except for tyson, denzel, idris, boris you get it  :D ;)) i'm talking about my own satisfication...

Ha ha Lex you're hilarious!!!!  ;D As Kanye said, we all self-conscious I'm just the first to admit it.  ;)  I don't have locs so I'm not responding to five you some advice (sorry  :( ) about how to maintain it.  All I can say is you'll be in school and pro'ly not have much time for socializing and going out.  Your law school homies pro'ly won't give a ish about how your hair looks (unless they find out you're getting better grades than them and want to hate), and if you snag a man looking torn up (assuming you don't have one now) then he's pro'ly a keeper  ;) so maintain your swagger and shake those locs!  Just make sure you got it on point when you have an interview or a hot date!  ;) :D

aight, in that case, on days you aren't feeling beautiful, put on a hat! :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on July 26, 2006, 06:04:06 PM
das wassup!  Welcome atlplyr
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Sui generis on July 26, 2006, 07:07:53 PM
I'm a new brotha on the board.  I've been reading some of the comments about natural vs. "processed" hair.  I think that the most attractive thing about women's hair is their confidence in wearing whatever "do" she desires.  Nothing on this earth is more attractive that an independent, confident nubian sista that ain't afraid of what "Shirley", "Monique", or "Tamika" has to say about her physical appearance.  She rocks her hair, natural or not and presents a suave/cool that matches her position. Now that's sexy. If you are wondering about my hair, I rock a fro.  Some people like it, and others don't.  But the bottom line is that I cut it when I want and grow it when I want.  In addition my demeanor always represents that my opinion of how I look is the most important one.   

Amen brotha!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Anne Shirley on July 27, 2006, 07:12:43 AM
Lex Boogie,

I PMed you, but I want to answer your question about how to make the transition to locks. 

First of all, I have had Sisterlocks for five years.  I love all kinds of locks, but I loved Sisterlocks because they are thin and most of all, I was able to keep my relaxed ends.  That was important to me because at the time that I decided to take the plunge and lock, I had only been relaxer free for only two months.  I only had about half an inch of natural hair to work with.  I kept my relaxed ends for a year before I did the big chop and let those suckers go. 

The first two years were a huge challenge for me because I had been wearing a lot of braids and extensions. Now suddenly I had my very short "real" hair in two textures to work with.  It was difficult for me because my goal was to attain growth and that simply took patience. 

However, I have seen people with a significant amount of natural hair to begin with come out looking beautiful really early on.  I linked you to my blog in my PM.  You'll also find the links to other blogs of women who started with far more hair than I did. 

I will say that locing was worth every bit of the challenge of those first two years. 

Now I do that Colgate smile thing you do in the mornings.  I love not having to mess in my hair too much, and I love the option of messing in my hair (rolling, updos, etc.)when I feel like it. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: jerrica benton on July 27, 2006, 09:10:12 AM

what black women do you know/see?  i don't see that a lot and i live in BK

i was living in brooklyn around the time i made that post.  right now, i live in texas.  i've been all over the place and see the same thing. 

most black women who relax their hair have awful-looking (natural) hair, imo. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on July 27, 2006, 12:18:08 PM
I'm a new brotha on the board.  I've been reading some of the comments about natural vs. "processed" hair.  I think that the most attractive thing about women's hair is their confidence in wearing whatever "do" she desires.  Nothing on this earth is more attractive that an independent, confident nubian sista that ain't afraid of what "Shirley", "Monique", or "Tamika" has to say about her physical appearance.  She rocks her hair, natural or not and presents a suave/cool that matches her position. Now that's sexy. If you are wondering about my hair, I rock a fro.  Some people like it, and others don't.  But the bottom line is that I cut it when I want and grow it when I want.  In addition my demeanor always represents that my opinion of how I look is the most important one.   

very on point.  Thats what I think-  confidence is key to whateva-  including rocking the 'do
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: KeepitRealGirl on July 27, 2006, 12:27:23 PM
As a previous victim of the creamy crack phenomenon I have to say going natural has changed my life for the better. My hair is nappy, thick, and beautiful. I don't have to worry about my hair getting wet or keeping up with expensive salon visits. Right now I'm sporting two strain twists but eventually I would like to get locks.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 27, 2006, 12:56:48 PM
sondra--what in the world are sisterlocks? I've looked at the websites. I've seen the pictures. They all seem to be marketing talk. No one actually puts it out there. some of the stuff I read said it bonds from the bottom up. Some just said that it was a natural hair management system and that you end up with 450 locs. Can't say any of it makes sense. Can you explain the process more fully? is it a weave? why do the websites say that they are installed? how do you wash your hair right afterwards without them coming out?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 27, 2006, 01:13:54 PM
good lookin sondra.....i used to think sister locs were just curly locs, lol
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 27, 2006, 03:40:11 PM
I've always been under the impression that sisterlocks were weave...and there are brotherlocks too (for the men respectively)

Sisterlocks are tiny little micro locks that can be done on natural or permed hair. Sister Locks are recommended for people who want to instantaneously lock their hair without waiting for it to lock over time. This model (right) raves about the flexibility and freedom that she now has with her hair. Although she loves to wear it tightly curled, she has the option to wear it without a curl. She gets a touch-up once every two months. She admits that she is in love with the illusion of not having anything done to her hair  along with the very low maintenance required and most of all being chemical free.

http://home.comcast.net/~leoniesweaves/model3.htm

of course I'm not saying all sisterlocks look like that LOL...but those pictures definitely show that the model's hair is weaved
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on July 27, 2006, 04:25:32 PM
Blk --

I heard that they are some sort of weave too, but then they are latch-hooked or something like that as a part of upkeep until the hair is locked onto the extension hair.

My best friend has some now and she says she likes them...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on July 27, 2006, 04:37:06 PM

so ladies & fellas if you're out there how'd you make it work? was it by keeping up on your hair by doing it yourself, a friend or going to the shop? just saying "buck it" and letting your swagger make up for the difficult days?



As I've said before, when I started locking I was teaching at an urban high school (READ: my kids were not afraid to say whatever crossed their feeble minds) so there was no way I was gonna look completely crazy by the head.  There were times when I felt like I needed to re-twist before my usual bi-weekly appointment, when those times came I went right to the shop and retwisted.  There were times I felt like I looked crazy and people would come up and say my hair was cute.  There were also times when I wrapped my hair right up because there was no way anyone was going to see the nest on top of my hair.

*I went to the shop until I was confident my hair would come out when I washed it, which ended up being about three months*

Therefore, my suggestions for handling the times when you think your hair looks wild are:
1) Be patient.
2) Buy 1 yard of whatever kinds of material you like (that matches with your clothing) and learn to wrap your hair on days when your hair looks particularly rough.
3) DON'T just twist your dry hair all day because you think it looks off, you'll only make it look more wild.
4) Buy some elastic headbands in different colors (they'll come in handy).  I prefer Wal-Mart for head bands.
5) Buy some cute hair pins.
6) Be patient.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on July 27, 2006, 04:48:15 PM
rofl, i know the type but my students were 18-24 but thats a story for another day......

thanks for the advice inquirer...after a long ass chat with one person last night i was set & ready to go, then i get home today and talk to another friend and i'm back to *ussy footin' on what to do.  :-[

As I've said before, when I started locking I was teaching at an urban high school (READ: my kids were not afraid to say whatever crossed their feeble minds) so there was no way I was gonna look completely crazy by the head.  There were times when I felt like I needed to re-twist before my usual bi-weekly appointment, when those times came I went right to the shop and retwisted.  There were times I felt like I looked crazy and people would come up and say my hair was cute.  There were also times when I wrapped my hair right up because there was no way anyone was going to see the nest on top of my hair.

*I went to the shop until I was confident my hair would come out when I washed it, which ended up being about three months*

Therefore, my suggestions for handling the times when you think your hair looks wild are:
1) Be patient.
2) Buy 1 yard of whatever kinds of material you like (that matches with your clothing) and learn to wrap your hair on days when your hair looks particularly rough.
3) DON'T just twist your dry hair all day because you think it looks off, you'll only make it look more wild.
4) Buy some elastic headbands in different colors (they'll come in handy).  I prefer Wal-Mart for head bands.
5) Buy some cute hair pins.
6) Be patient.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 27, 2006, 04:52:53 PM
gotta love the DC and MD kids..seems we all had some of those wonderful urban school experiences in the DC metro area lol...

nothing like running down the hallway (in heeled boots) chasing a 16 yr old who's decided that he wanted to light up a cigarette in the classroom..when it finally clicked in his head what he did...he proceeded to run down the hallway...

Inquirer gotta love the headwraps on the days that you just didn't feel like twisting those roots lol....
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Anne Shirley on July 27, 2006, 06:16:52 PM
I missed a couple of your questions, faith. The sisterlock process is sometimes compared to braiding your hair from the root up.  It's not really, it's just a way of keeping your hair in position to loc sort of like the two-strand twists.  Most people get sisterlocks because they like the look and styleability of thinner locks.  They look a little like microbraids. 

Hope I'm doing a good job of describing it.  You can find pics of the tool and someone retightening their hair on one of the blogs I mentioned. 

I'm with you Keepitrealgirl,  I love having natural hair. I really have grown as a person as a result of moving away from relaxing.  I'm more confident and I don't have to fear the rain.  That's such a big deal!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 27, 2006, 06:33:15 PM
Just out of curiosity, once one locks, how does one un-lock, so to speak?

I'd also like to say that this thread has given me a newfound respect for locks...where I come from (rural South), people with locks are...weird.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Anne Shirley on July 27, 2006, 06:36:59 PM
Yeah.  I'm from the South so I understand.  I'm in an urban area now, so everytime I turn around now I see someone with locs. 

Alci, one does not un-lock.  Basically once it's done, it's permanent. If you want a different style you let the roots grow out some and chop off the locks. 

I am pretty committed to locs so I don't see myself ever chopping them off.  Most of us just think of them as our normal hair and not a hairdo. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on July 27, 2006, 06:39:06 PM
Just out of curiosity, once one locks, how does one un-lock, so to speak?

I'd also like to say that this thread has given me a newfound respect for locks...where I come from (rural South), people with locks are...weird.

Either cut them off or use a WHOLE LOT of conditioner (and quite a bit of time) and comb them out.  A few months ago, there was an article in Vibe Vixen about combing out locks (some woman in NYC charges about $1000 to do it) ...

EDIT: Sondra's right though -- most people just think of locs as their hair and whatever they do their hair (like curling or braiding) is the "style"

Sondra -- thanks for enlightening us about Sisterlocks -- you and your friends hair is beautiful (and I'm in LOVE with her ponytail holder -- I might get in touch with her about ordering some) :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 27, 2006, 06:40:39 PM
you have to cut your hair...

though lex showed me a link to someone (poor child) that "unlocked" her hair..i can only imagine how painful that ish was ... i think she said it took her a month to do it and she used thumbtacs and a bunch of conditioner and some other stuff.. don't remember..either way it's not something that i'd ever try.. and i can only imagine how much breakage she had by doing that...

glad to hear that you've gained some respect for locs.. it's definitely different down here as perms are still ruling H-town lol...

sidenote: Sondra those pony tail holders are HOT!!!

Just out of curiosity, once one locks, how does one un-lock, so to speak?

I'd also like to say that this thread has given me a newfound respect for locks...where I come from (rural South), people with locks are...weird.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on July 27, 2006, 06:41:47 PM
Yea I def have a new respect for locs  I'm just used to rastafarians who just make their hair turn into knotty dreads.  Sondra your fam is beautiful, and I'm also feeling your friend's hair clips.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on July 27, 2006, 06:45:48 PM
you have to cut your hair...

though lex showed me a link to someone (poor child) that "unlocked" her hair..i can only imagine how painful that ish was ... i think she said it took her a month to do it and she used thumbtacs and a bunch of conditioner and some other stuff.. don't remember..either way it's not something that i'd ever try.. and i can only imagine how much breakage she had by doing that...


Apparently, there's a lot of breakage and hair "loss" during the process, but supposedly, it's from the compacted hair.  I'd actually considered taking out my locs after a conversation about hair and getting a job and then re-locking once I get a job.  I'll probably just make sure my hair is done in a nice professional style and hope for the best though (provided my grades are high enough to even merit my needing to worry about getting interviews) :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 27, 2006, 06:50:08 PM
how long are your locs Inq?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Anne Shirley on July 27, 2006, 06:54:00 PM
I freaked out and deleted my post.  Here it is again without the blog links:

Wow this thread blew up while I was away. Sisterlocks are locks and are not weave.  The difference with Sisterlocks is the method used to "install" and re-tighten the locks.  They are not twisted or started from two strand twists. 

You can get a few details at www.sisterlocks.com.  I don't know about marketing gimmicks, but I do know that quite a few people that have them love them.

My husband has brotherlocks and started his with all natural hair.  Again, I started mine while my hair was relaxed (I could only lock the natural portion, but I didn't have to cut the relaxer out right away).

Initial installation of the locks takes forever because the parts are tiny and meticulous.  A tool is used to sort of thread the hair in a certain pattern.  The advantage of this is that the locs don't slip out easily.  Instead of retightening the new growth, we use a tool to sort of latchhook (for lack of a better word) it.  This has the advantage of retightening closer to the scalp so that you don't have a lot of fuzzies. 

When I first had mine "installed" (I guess that does sound kind of funny), I had two people working on my head and it took a full twenty hours with them locking only my 1/2 inch of new growth.  Most people with alot of natural hair, walk out looking like they've got tiny microbraids.  These thicken in a few weeks and they are well on their way to having locked hair.  The actual locking process takes about six months to a year, depending on your hair texture.  If you're nappay like me and my husband, you'll lock really fast.  If you have a looser curl or what most people refer to as "good hair", it can take up to two years, yet you'll still retain the look of locks. 

My good friend Brunsli, has a loose curl, and her hair is not fully locked yet, but looks like it is.

The upside to sisterlocks is that they stay in pretty well from the beginning and you only have to retighten them every 4 to 6 weeks. 

The downside is that installation is expensive. I paid $400.00 for my initial installation for only 1/2 an inch.  Installation is priced according to how much natural hair you have.  You have to go to a consultant for the first six months to ensure that everything is looking good.  Their prices vary but are usually between $45-$90.  After your first six months, you can take a retightening class and do it yourself, which is what I do.  My hair upkeep is now the cost of shampoo and spray oil moisture.

Sisterlocks don't involve weave, but I've heard of some people with all kinds of locks getting themselves through the transition stage by wearing weave.  I wouldn't recommend it and found that the transition was a time of personal growth for me. Trust me, it had to be cuz I was looking Rough.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 27, 2006, 07:02:47 PM
Thanks for the un-locking info, ladies.  I figured it was pretty permanent.  Anyway, carry on :).
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on July 27, 2006, 07:08:33 PM
how long are your locs Inq?


They're not that long.  I've only been locking for two years, so the back of my hair is a little past my shoulders. In the article, the woman who took hers out had been locking for 12 years.

Sondra -- lol at the freaking out -- but totally understandable :D  I was just about to ask you if you have any problems with breakage when I read about your husbands locks (cosign on what MDLaw said, your family is lovely :) )

Also, how long did you leave in the soft spike curlers? Someone from another photo album I ran across used them and I loved the effect, but you hair seemed to turn out more wavy than hers (I like both looks though).
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Anne Shirley on July 27, 2006, 07:10:57 PM
The ponytail holders are great.  I don't have one yet, but my friend is sending me one.  I can't wait.  Thanks for the compliments.  

I'm pretty proud of the fact that I stuck it out and locked.

I had to face a classroom full of bold students when I started locking too.  They were not nice :(.  Anyway, it was tough, but I'm happy that I did it.

I can't imagine trying to take down my locks.  I'm pretty sure I'd be bald after that process.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Anne Shirley on July 27, 2006, 07:14:10 PM
Thanks, Inquirer. 

I left my soft spikes in all night.  I probably took that pic a few days later. After I use those, if I let them dry properly, I usually get a sausage curl look for about two days, then a nice loose curl thereafter. 

I'm not big on rolling my hair.  I know it looks good curled, but I'm a low maintenance type of girl.  I usually pull them back, or stick a headband on and go. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on July 27, 2006, 07:24:30 PM
Ok so I'm liking the whole dreads thing and amazed that Blk, Inq. and Sondra all have dreads that look completely different.  But I'm just not there yet.   :-\ I like being able to take out my hair and run my fingers through my fro  :-\ 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: oliveoyl on July 27, 2006, 07:45:04 PM
i love it! this has become the how-to-loc thread : )

FWIW, i be rockin the twa, but may consider locking in the future
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on July 28, 2006, 07:54:24 AM
hmm, well i asked the question but missed the post and the pictures i guess. can't say it still makes that much sense to me. you use a tool and make little twists then pull them through a latch hook to get them to loc? i still think those websites are focused on marketing. none of them say what the actual process entails--they just talk about them being installed. its all good though, i'm glad a black woman is making money off of it.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 28, 2006, 07:57:52 AM
yeah what confuses me is the sitting for 20 hours getting it "installed"...that just sounds kind of different to me... braids don't even take that long to my understanding...and if hair isn't added on to your hair..why would the process take so long?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on July 28, 2006, 08:21:29 AM
Based on the pictures of the size of the dreads, and the method, twenty hours seems reasonable  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Anne Shirley on July 28, 2006, 08:45:53 AM
MDlaw is right.  It's the tiny size, the parts, and the method that make it take so long.  Maybe it sometimes looks like weave because they leave people's relaxed hair on and just work with the new growth.  This can give them the appearance of freestyle braids, where the hair is braided only halfway down and loose for the remaining length. 

I started that way, but was more than ready to chop off my relaxed ends after I attained some length with my own natural hair. 

And MDlaw, you are so right about how different everyone's locs look.  Everyone has a different texture, so everyone's hair is different.  Even as far as the sisterlocks go, I have about 425 locks, but my friend, who has a lot of hair has about 620 locks. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 31, 2006, 09:41:13 AM
cool name sondra
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: survivor07 on July 31, 2006, 06:12:42 PM
I have permed hair! 

I like the roller wrap look too.  I get that same style every two weeks, but not lately; it is way too hot for all that hair on my neck and back.  I get it up in the summertime.

Have a great evening all!   :P
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on August 01, 2006, 05:03:00 AM
Thanks, Inquirer. 

I left my soft spikes in all night.  I probably took that pic a few days later. After I use those, if I let them dry properly, I usually get a sausage curl look for about two days, then a nice loose curl thereafter. 

I'm not big on rolling my hair.  I know it looks good curled, but I'm a low maintenance type of girl.  I usually pull them back, or stick a headband on and go. 

is your avatar the episode where elvin tries to open the pickel jar but can't? ...i'm pretty sure it is.. and it's pretty sad that i know that...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Anne Shirley on August 01, 2006, 09:44:16 AM
Hi, RBG.  I'm not sure which episode that is, which is sad because I consider myself a Cosby Show aficionado.

I chose Sondra Huxtable because, like me, she decided to go to law school after she had twins.  She and I are both a little off-balance  ;D.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on August 04, 2006, 03:35:40 PM
Ok I'm in need of some help.  :( Although I have my hair in braids (twists) now, while in school, I won't have time to come to DC to get it retwisted, and I doubt I'll be able to find anyone in Gainesville who can do it. So I'll probably wear it out.

Though I love wearing my hair out, I hate doing it because my hair is really thick and nappy and I gotta lift weights to have the strength to wear it out for longer than 2 weeks  :-\

I've been combing this thread to figure out what products would be best (and within my law student budget) to maintain my curls and keep my hair moisturized; right now I use CD.  I'm not creative with my hair and don't know what to do with it other than pulling it back into one and wearing twists.

Would love to hear from ya'll so I can gather a list of products, websites, and styles in one area since this thread has grown greatly.  Thanks ya'll!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on August 04, 2006, 03:58:45 PM
Jamaica,

Check out this place : http://www.anutwist.com/gallery.html.

They seem to use decent products and do a variety of styles.  The gallery looks really promising.

EDIT: I wanted to see if they were still in business, so I called the shop.  The lady who answered the phone said they are about 4 blocks from the school and that some of the stylists do student specials. She also said they're the only shop in the area with a website - which seems true - and was eager to let me know that they do other kinds of hair too (like perms and stuff)

If that is too pricey, I'd try to find someone with nice braids on campus and go to the chick who does them  :D


Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on August 04, 2006, 04:19:47 PM
OMG!!!!  Thanks Inquirer!  You know I'm so funny about my hair that I made up my mind that I wouldn't be finding anyone there to do my hair since I didn't see anyone with natural do's....yea I know it was ignant of me!!

Good looking out homie!  But I'm still interseted to know of hair products and/or concotions!

Jamaica,

Check out this place : http://www.anutwist.com/gallery.html.

They seem to use decent products and do a variety of styles.  The gallery looks really promising.

EDIT: I wanted to see if they were still in business, so I called the shop.  The lady who answered the phone said they are about 4 blocks from the school and that some of the stylists do student specials. She also said they're the only shop in the area with a website - which seems true - and was eager to let me know that they do other kinds of hair too (like perms and stuff)

If that is too pricey, I'd try to find someone with nice braids on campus and go to the chick who does them  :D



Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on August 04, 2006, 04:33:08 PM
that's what i'm talking about..looking out for one another...good looking out Inq! Jamaica they use carol's daughter products there as well as others...you can view that here

http://www.anutwist.com/products.html
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on August 04, 2006, 04:41:04 PM
Okay so I called them up (Inquirer she thought I was you calling back...though I know we sound nothing alike  :D ) 

Yea blk I peeped their CD products.  I don't think they're too pricey relative to the DC area.  Plus you know I gotta make a special hair budget (plus you know they have student discounts :D  Best of all they SPECIALIZE in natural hair so they pro'ly can help me handle my fro!

Anyone have any other ideas on products.  I picked up this Mist Bodifier by Taliah Waajid Black Earth Products.  I haven't tried it yet, but it was a little cheaper than CD.  If it works the same, it'll be my new best friend!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on August 04, 2006, 04:41:36 PM
So today I was having lunch with my intern coordinator and fellow interns.  The coordinator mentions that our director's son is fine and has dreads (yes, our director is black 8)).  How about one of the interns (white female) goes, "Dreads?  Eww. I can't imagine how he'd be fine with dreads!  They're so nasty!"  While a year ago, I might not have thought anything about it (much like before college I didn't think anything about white people saying at night, "The only thing we can see is your teeth!"), I was rather offended today.  And it's all thanks to this thread.  Just thought I'd share.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on August 04, 2006, 04:42:04 PM
OMG!!!!  Thanks Inquirer!  You know I'm so funny about my hair that I made up my mind that I wouldn't be finding anyone there to do my hair since I didn't see anyone with natural do's....yea I know it was ignant of me!!

Good looking out homie!  But I'm still interseted to know of hair products and/or concotions!

You're welcome -- after the way she was quick to tell me about the fact that they definitely did perms, I figured that natural hair isn't the most poular look down there  :D  The woman who does the natural hair appears to have locs though, so that's a good sign :)

About products:

When I had two strand twists, I made my own "grease."  I used a base of shea butter(about 1/4 cup), added in a variety of oils (typically 1/2 teaspoon each of jojoba, almond, tea tree and vitamin e) and a drop or two of essential oils or whatever fragrance I was feeling, microwaved the entire mixture together for about a minute, then put it in the freezer for a few hours.  When it hardened, it was great and light and lasted for a few months.  It also costs around $5 for enough products to make almost a years worth of "grease."  I'd check out Sally's for shampoo and conditioner.  They have this shampoo and conditioner by Aura that Im currently feeling.  Get the Rosemary Mint one if you get that :)

For "curl maintaining" though.  You might just try the CD hair milk, if you dont already use that. Blk sent a link to the products that shop in Gainesville used (thanks :) ) and I've heard good stuff about the line, but I've never used it.  I was just about to ask Blk had she,when she posted, so...have you ever used those products Blk?


Have you considered a hair piece though? It sounds cheesy, but I've seen people really work those afro bun things.  I don't know if you watch Project Runway, but the Kara Saun chick's hair looked decent while taping, you might try a style like hers (http://www.bet.com/Assets/BET/Published/image/jpeg/bb197264-ae74-187a-13b0-09b9e8c00d1a-KaraSaunIC020105.jpg)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on August 04, 2006, 04:44:35 PM
So today I was having lunch with my intern coordinator and fellow interns.  The coordinator mentions that our director's son is fine and has dreads (yes, our director is black 8)).  How about one of the interns (white female) goes, "Dreads?  Eww. I can't imagine how he'd be fine with dreads!  They're so nasty!"  While a year ago, I might not have thought anything about it (much like before college I didn't think anything about white people saying at night, "The only thing we can see is your teeth!"), I was rather offended today.  And it's all thanks to this thread.  Just thought I'd share.



LOL @ the teeth comment :D, but thanks for sharing this story and it's good that you have a better opinion of locs because of this thread  :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on August 04, 2006, 04:54:40 PM
So today I was having lunch with my intern coordinator and fellow interns.  The coordinator mentions that our director's son is fine and has dreads (yes, our director is black 8)).  How about one of the interns (white female) goes, "Dreads?  Eww. I can't imagine how he'd be fine with dreads!  They're so nasty!"  While a year ago, I might not have thought anything about it (much like before college I didn't think anything about white people saying at night, "The only thing we can see is your teeth!"), I was rather offended today.  And it's all thanks to this thread.  Just thought I'd share.

Did you ask her what's so nasty about it and school her?  Did you tell her you were offended?  I hope you did cause she sounds ignant.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on August 04, 2006, 05:10:58 PM
Inquirer,

I use CD products now, I love the scent of it and the fact that it's all natural.  (I'm gonna have to try that hair grease concoction).  It's good but expensive imo.  I think natrual hair products could be cheaper for the same example you gave-- you can concoct them for pretty cheap.

Never tried the bun....but if Ima wear my hair out I want it to be mine. :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on August 04, 2006, 05:42:42 PM
So today I was having lunch with my intern coordinator and fellow interns.  The coordinator mentions that our director's son is fine and has dreads (yes, our director is black 8)).  How about one of the interns (white female) goes, "Dreads?  Eww. I can't imagine how he'd be fine with dreads!  They're so nasty!"  While a year ago, I might not have thought anything about it (much like before college I didn't think anything about white people saying at night, "The only thing we can see is your teeth!"), I was rather offended today.  And it's all thanks to this thread.  Just thought I'd share.

Did you ask her what's so nasty about it and school her?  Did you tell her you were offended?  I hope you did cause she sounds ignant.

Lol, I think she could tell by my look that I wasn't happy with what she said.  She then clarified and said that she meant "the ones where it just looks like they let their hair grow and don't wash it or do anything to it."  I told her that all forms of dreads weren't like that.  The other intern then said something about me getting dreads, which turned into afro talk, which turned into my coordinator sharing her afro stories, then on to other stuff.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on August 04, 2006, 06:30:11 PM
everyone in dc has dreads. how old is her son? sorry, lol!  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on August 04, 2006, 07:01:58 PM
everyone in dc has dreads. how old is her son? sorry, lol!  :D

Lol.  I think he might be a little too young for you ;).  From what I gathered, he finished college recently, is teaching in Japan right now, and wants to go to the Peace Corps before possibly law school.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on August 04, 2006, 11:05:33 PM
this makes me mad, everything about it stinks (no offense acli, im glad you've grown and big ups for your composure.) it's not b/c i wear my hair natural, just plain old principle....i wish something like so would happen to me.....

So today I was having lunch with my intern coordinator and fellow interns.  The coordinator mentions that our director's son is fine and has dreads (yes, our director is black 8)).  How about one of the interns (white female) goes, "Dreads?  Eww. I can't imagine how he'd be fine with dreads!  They're so nasty!"  While a year ago, I might not have thought anything about it (much like before college I didn't think anything about white people saying at night, "The only thing we can see is your teeth!"), I was rather offended today.  And it's all thanks to this thread.  Just thought I'd share.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on August 05, 2006, 07:53:47 AM
So today I was having lunch with my intern coordinator and fellow interns.  The coordinator mentions that our director's son is fine and has dreads (yes, our director is black 8)).  How about one of the interns (white female) goes, "Dreads?  Eww. I can't imagine how he'd be fine with dreads!  They're so nasty!"  While a year ago, I might not have thought anything about it (much like before college I didn't think anything about white people saying at night, "The only thing we can see is your teeth!"), I was rather offended today.  And it's all thanks to this thread.  Just thought I'd share.

Did you ask her what's so nasty about it and school her?  Did you tell her you were offended?  I hope you did cause she sounds ignant.

Lol, I think she could tell by my look that I wasn't happy with what she said.  She then clarified and said that she meant "the ones where it just looks like they let their hair grow and don't wash it or do anything to it."  I told her that all forms of dreads weren't like that.  The other intern then said something about me getting dreads, which turned into afro talk, which turned into my coordinator sharing her afro stories, then on to other stuff.

Wow! I'm proud of you! ;) :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on August 05, 2006, 08:41:50 AM
Anyone ever tried these products?  If so, how do you like them?

http://oyinhandmade.com/oyin/index.php
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on August 05, 2006, 09:02:45 AM
Anyone ever tried these products?  If so, how do you like them?

http://oyinhandmade.com/oyin/index.php

Not yet, but it's definitely going to happen once I get back to New Haven.  The women on Nappturality RAVE about them.  The only "bad" thing I've heard is that some people think it smells too much like dessert. :D  Also, the person who runs Oyin posts on Nappturality and is always very responsive to her customers' needs as far as I can tell.  I'd go for it.  Try the sampler pack first.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on August 06, 2006, 10:40:56 AM
hold up, can we find out more about the director's son?  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on August 06, 2006, 02:03:09 PM
just found this site and it has a bunch of product lines....

http://www.naturallycurly.com

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on August 07, 2006, 12:20:38 PM
Aron Ranen's Black Hair Documentary Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p96aaTSdrAE


Aron Ranen's Black Hair Documentary Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWeLiXHcSyU


Aron Ranen's Black Hair Documentary Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azfEeDRvdlc


Aron Ranen's Black Hair Documentary Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m67P2kT7TzQ
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on August 07, 2006, 01:48:00 PM
ok md let's see if I can add anything to the hair conversation. I don't really do that much really exotic with my hair. I wash it--every other time with both shampoo and conditioner, and the times in between just with conditioner. then i usually put oil on it--i like hot six oil and then I either twist it wet or put some gel on the front and brush it back into an afro puff. when I twist it I just make sure to oil my scalp as well and comb as i go. if I want to put it in a bun then I have to comb it out so its not as ridiculously curly anymore. my hair doesn't get super duper tangled so I usually use a comb and sometimes those brush/comb things that probably aren't recommended or whatever. when i'm feeling like i want to have an afro or something like that I wet it and braid it, then when I take it out in the morning its all spirally and curly, which is cute, but after two days it gets way too big for me to manage and I have to do something else with it. I heard that phyto products are good but I've never used them. I also do flat twists or cornrows in the front into a puff or a bun in the back. and I try to get it trimmed every six months, which usually coincides with me straightening it at some salon, but other than that I don't ever go to a salon. I've been thinking about doing some color--but truthfully I can't afford it so I just be rollin on the low maintenance kick. my hair isn't falling out or anything (actually it might be growing) so I think its fine. I think that everyone's texture is different though--so all of that adding water and stuff might not work for you. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: faith2005 on August 07, 2006, 02:06:48 PM
but i think my biggest issue is keeping my hair moisturized so all of the water is not necessarily a good thing. I am definitely in a constant battle for optimal moisturization.  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Roses Ruby on September 07, 2006, 08:02:12 PM
  My hair is completely natural and has been for the past 3 years or so.  I've been seriously considering getting locs for a while but everyone keeps telling me that I shouldn't because it is not accepted in professional/corporate America and that I will be making my entry much more difficult. So as of late I've been thinking about going back to the perming my hair.  Does anyone have any advice/thoughts on locs in the professional/corporate world?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Keeshi on September 08, 2006, 05:52:22 AM
I just found this thread, so I'm not sure if anyone linked this website, but www.motowngirl.com has lots of product reviews, techniques, styles, etc. for natural hair! I go there at least once a week to try out her homemade concoctions  :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: MsJay9 on September 08, 2006, 08:18:11 AM
Anyone ever tried these products?  If so, how do you like them?

http://oyinhandmade.com/oyin/index.php

Hey I had a former BLSD member reccomend these products to me last year for my daughter and I loved them.  Ordered them online and she made them up and shipped them to me in a week or so.  My baby loves the way the conditioner smells and I like the way it makes her scalp feel.   hth
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on September 09, 2006, 11:27:39 AM
  My hair is completely natural and has been for the past 3 years or so.  I've been seriously considering getting locs for a while but everyone keeps telling me that I shouldn't because it is not accepted in professional/corporate America and that I will be making my entry much more difficult. So as of late I've been thinking about going back to the perming my hair.  Does anyone have any advice/thoughts on locs in the professional/corporate world?

There are some sistas out there with them. See things posted earlier in the thread.

I'll let you know by November/December whether they have held me back :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: OES_Tiff on September 10, 2006, 10:14:44 AM
So I've decided to let my hair grow back and now that I want it to grow it seems as if it's taking forever.  For the last 4 weeks, I've been getting a roller set, wrap, dubie, or whatever it's called, every 7 days.  It's way too soon for results.  I've also refrained from using the curling iron.  I used to wash my hair every 2 weeks but that didn't prove very successful.  Has anyone else with relaxed hair use the one wash a week method?  If so, what were the results?  Oh and can anyone recommend some good hair growing products?  I think my beautician uses Paul Mitchell shampoo and conditioner but if there's something better I will purchase it and take it with me.  Oh and the reason why I specified "relaxed hair" in the above question is because I tend to think that natural hair is healthier and will grow anyway.  My hair is relaxed so there's a whole other chemical battle I'm dealing with.   :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on September 10, 2006, 10:32:49 AM
when i had a perm and even with my natural hair i find that it's all about the trims, every 6-8 weeks, the problem for most of us is finding someone who knows wtf they're doing

or and a hot oil treatment is always a nice treat, just make sure to rinse all of the oil out, residue & buildup is nooo good natural or permmed
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: OES_Tiff on September 10, 2006, 11:08:43 AM
Gracias and you are right about trims being important.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on September 11, 2006, 05:26:23 AM
OES: in NY it's called a wrap.  In the south and in MD/DC area it's called a "dubie".   Wash every week-  not a real good idea.  Every 2 weeks is all our hair can really take or so I was told.  Back in 2000, my hair was really unhealthy so I went to this lady and she would wash & set it [sometimes she'd blow it slightly].   every two weeks, trim, then I'd wrap it. 

I think "organic root stimulator" is okay for growth. 

 :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on September 11, 2006, 07:31:37 AM
or the two terms r sometimes used together: "doobie wrap". i've found that "wrap" is used more often than "doobie" in general

oh and i always prefered roller sets to a wrap b/c it was less heat/time under the dryer & i believe my hair came out straighter and w/ a lil more bounce

so i got my hair braided (cornrowwed) and my head is jumping, it's been at least two years and i really don't remember this *&^% being so painful, yes im tenderheaded, lol


oes, also try not to use products with mineral oil & petroleum, especially if they're the first to ingrediants, organic root stimulator is a great product line to use to avoid the above
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on September 11, 2006, 10:08:05 AM
OES: in NY it's called a wrap.  In the south and in MD/DC area it's called a "dubie".   Wash every week-  not a real good idea.  Every 2 weeks is all our hair can really take or so I was told.  Back in 2000, my hair was really unhealthy so I went to this lady and she would wash & set it [sometimes she'd blow it slightly].   every two weeks, trim, then I'd wrap it. 

I think "organic root stimulator" is okay for growth. 

 :)

I disagree.  I wash my hair every week and it's doing really well.  Back in spring 05 (my final semester) my hair starting breaking like crazy.  I finally had to cut it all off, so it was close to Halle Berry length in my graduation pics.  It's now at my shoulder.  That experience made me take a long hard look at what I was doing and how I should be doing it, and my hair is now healthier than its ever been.

I wash my hair every week, use a protein conditioner, rinse that out, then a moisturising conditioner.  Before I wash my hair I give myself a hot oil treatment (olive oil with some shea butter, wrap my head in plastic wrap).  As lex said, I don't use anything with mineral oil or petroleum.  I roller set my hair after washing, then dry it under a hood dryer, and dry it under a hood dryer.  Sometimes I'll flat iron it after that, but that's the only heat I use for the entire week!  I sleep in rollers so that I can still wear my hair out.

The lines that I really like are Nexxus (Keraphix protein conditioner, Humectress moisturising conditioner), Neutrogena Triple Moisture (entire line), Keracare (dry scalp shampoo/conditioner, hydrating detangling shampoo).  I use a line called Africa's Best organics for oil and daily moisturiser because it's mineral oil and petroleum free.  I occaisionally use the Paul Mitchell tea tree line.

It sounds like a lot of work (and sometimes it is) but I find that you have to put in the work if you want healthy black hair.  PM me if you have any questions.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on September 11, 2006, 11:46:11 AM
Lex- the only time I heard "doobie wrap"  was in a rap song!!!  LOL.  But I was in Alabama [yeah 'bama is random... long story... dont ask!  :D] and I asked for a wrap and they looked at me crazy! 

Moni-  Our hair needs it's natural oils and if we wash too much it strips it.  And thats what you are doing with all those products- adding the oil that you just took away naturally.  Thats part of what caused my hair breakage in the 1st place.  It was a hot mess. I think if you dont use a lot of heat, you should be good.   
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on September 11, 2006, 12:03:57 PM
lol finally....."oochie wally, oochie bang bang"
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on September 11, 2006, 12:57:49 PM
lol finally....."oochie wally, oochie bang bang"

HAHA  LMAO!  See I knew it was in some rap song- I was trying to place it but I couldnt!  Wow  :o  :o.    Yep, I get the dunce cap for that one!   :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: OES_Tiff on September 11, 2006, 09:47:44 PM
Thanks you guys.  And Moni those are some goooooooood products but expensive.  My broke tail is ready to wash my hair with the the "joy" my grandfather has at the kitchen sink.  No but I may have to invest in some better products.  My (brand new) beautician will probably be offended but it's my hair right?  Oh and she tried to convince me to get a weave to grow my hair.  The nerve of her.

I'll stick to the wash and set once a week, trimmings, conditions, treatments, and limited heat.  When should I start to see results, lol...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on September 12, 2006, 05:17:13 AM
Thanks you guys.  And Moni those are some goooooooood products but expensive.  My broke tail is ready to wash my hair with the the "joy" my grandfather has at the kitchen sink.  No but I may have to invest in some better products.  My (brand new) beautician will probably be offended but it's my hair right?  Oh and she tried to convince me to get a weave to grow my hair.  The nerve of her.

I'll stick to the wash and set once a week, trimmings, conditions, treatments, and limited heat.  When should I start to see results, lol...

LOL @ "Joy"  thats ghetto fab  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on September 12, 2006, 06:06:09 AM
Thanks you guys.  And Moni those are some goooooooood products but expensive.  My broke tail is ready to wash my hair with the the "joy" my grandfather has at the kitchen sink.  No but I may have to invest in some better products.  My (brand new) beautician will probably be offended but it's my hair right?  Oh and she tried to convince me to get a weave to grow my hair.  The nerve of her.

I'll stick to the wash and set once a week, trimmings, conditions, treatments, and limited heat.  When should I start to see results, lol...

Lol, yeah, I've built up my product collection over time.  And of course, got my mom to buy a bunch of stuff when she came for my graduation!  Maybe try the NTM first, it's the cheapest of the lot, and I use almost the entire line.  To echo JLF, my hair does better when I wash it once a week, you have to do what works for you.  And if your beautician can't help you find natural (ie not a weave) ways to grow your hair, as well as healthy products, maybe you should be looking for someone else.  If she aint helpin, she might be hurtin! Also, if you have an Ulta nearby, see if you they have a black employee who can help you.  I lucked out with a fabulous black man at the one nearby, who really helped sort me out last year.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on September 12, 2006, 06:59:00 AM
Tiff.. try some Mizani products... that's what I used back in the day when I had a perm..
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does anyone have any suggestions for dry scalp/dandruff?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on September 12, 2006, 07:07:03 AM
Tiff.. try some Mizani products... that's what I used back in the day when I had a perm..
--

does anyone have any suggestions for dry scalp/dandruff?

I've used Neutrogena Triple Moisture's soothing shampoo, Keracare dry/itchy scalp shampoo and conditioner (which feels really tingly when you put it on) and Paul Mitchell Tea tree shampoo.  NTM is the most gentle, but I'd follow up any of these with a moisturising shampoo, because dandruff products can be drying.

Do you have dry scalp (little flakes) or dandruff (bigger flakes, supposedly greasy)?  All of the above I use for dry scalp, but for serious dandruff I would probably go for something stronger like head and shoulders or neutrogena t-gel. Another suggestion from my stylist is to apply the product directly to the scalp, leave on for a bit then rinse out, which minimises contact with hair.  You can also get some tea tree essential oil and add that to some olive oil for a hot oil treatment.

Also, are you using any products with mineral oil or petroleum (some Mizani products contain them)?  I found that they would build up on the scalp, causing flakes like dandruff.  Since I stopped using them it has made a world of difference and I can feel my scalp breathe.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on September 12, 2006, 07:12:42 AM
thanks for responding so quickly.. I haven't used Mizani since I went natural.. I've used the PM tea tree but it doesn't seem to work for my scalp.. I just bought some Nioxin Scalp Therapy (used to use that while living in DC) so I'm hoping that it works again... I have dry scalp..and when my nerves are bad I scratch a lot which makes them more visible..and um ... I can't have that lol....

the problem with leaving the shampoo in for an extended period of time with locs is that it's harder to get the product out..and I find myself dealing with buildup when I twist my roots...

none of the products that I use have mineral oil or petroleum. and I stay away from detangler for obvious reasons...

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on September 12, 2006, 07:24:02 AM
thanks for responding so quickly.. I haven't used Mizani since I went natural.. I've used the PM tea tree but it doesn't seem to work for my scalp.. I just bought some Nioxin Scalp Therapy (used to use that while living in DC) so I'm hoping that it works again... I have dry scalp..and when my nerves are bad I scratch a lot which makes them more visible..and um ... I can't have that lol....

the problem with leaving the shampoo in for an extended period of time with locs is that it's harder to get the product out..and I find myself dealing with buildup when I twist my roots...

none of the products that I use have mineral oil or petroleum. and I stay away from detangler for obvious reasons...



I use a hot oil treatment before I wash (just plain olive oil, sometimes with shea butter), but I don't know how that would work with locs.  I also use a good moisturising conditioner and leave that in for 5 mins (again with the locs).  Maybe try regular scalp massages with a light oil?  That'll help to exfoliate the scalp, which is probably a big part of the problem.

How are the Nioxin products?  I've heard that they're good, but have never tried them...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on September 12, 2006, 07:47:24 AM
Nioxin seemed to do the trick back in the day... they used it at the shop that I used to frequent.. I stopped using it when I moved because it was hard to find.. Carol's Daughter products don't seem to do anything for me I'm finding...

I'm going to try the hot oil treatment over the weekend along with the Nioxin and see what it does for me... with things the way they are now.. I have to wash my hair weekly to ensure that I don't have visible dandruff.. and I know I can't keep doing my hair every week.. too many locs.. too much time lol..
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on September 12, 2006, 09:09:40 AM
oes, go to sally's and they have a "generic" line of all the pricier products like paul mitchell & nexxus
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on September 12, 2006, 01:04:41 PM
Tiff.. try some Mizani products... that's what I used back in the day when I had a perm..
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does anyone have any suggestions for dry scalp/dandruff?

Hey blk-  Scalpacin (sp?) is really good.   doesnt look like it would work but it really does.  I like to put it in then sit under the dryer to make sure it sets "in" but it does give you a rather intense sort of feeling  :o

oes, go to sally's and they have a "generic" line of all the pricier products like paul mitchell & nexxus

"generic" = ghettofied  :D Lex, that was very nicely put. LOL
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on September 12, 2006, 02:20:43 PM
i'm dead ass finally, the ingrediants r the same except sally's is about 4 dollars where the other guys r starting a ten for a dinky bottle, you gotta check it out..... i can't tell the difference between ther version and the real stuff for the nexxus humectress & moisturizing shampoo, and paul mitchel's detangler
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on September 13, 2006, 05:05:18 AM
I'm a skeptic, so I've never tried the Sally version.  Plus, I don't mind paying extra for certain things if it helps to fund the next innovative hair or skin product that I won't be able to live wihhout.  Maybe when I'm really broke...  :D

For anyone who's interested in Redken products, JC Penny salon is currently offering buy 2, get one free on styling products. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on September 13, 2006, 06:28:11 AM
if its the same why pay more? if the ingrediants and results are identical why waste 7 dollars? but i refuse to shop at places like walmarts & target just to save a buck so i can't really talk
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on September 13, 2006, 06:45:24 AM
if its the same why pay more? if the ingrediants and results are identical why waste 7 dollars? but i refuse to shop at places like walmarts & target just to save a buck so i can't really talk

Lol, I have no problem shopping at walmart and tarjhay (though i'll only buy my salon products at places like ulta).  The whole problem with knock off products is that it increases the cost of the real thing in order to make up for lost revenue and to provide funds for research.  The research aspect is a big thing to me, both in terms of hair and skin products.  It doesn't have to be super expensive, as their are companies like Neutrogena and Oil of Olay that offer innovative products at drugstore prices.  Using the knockoffs means that you're stealing the research, which means less innovations like shampoos that cut your hair drying time, proteins that really strenghthen the hair, etc.  I like products that work, and somebody has to create those products.

Edit: not knocking anyone that does use those products, just explaining my reasons.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on September 13, 2006, 09:53:40 AM
thats cool, i don't shop at walmarts, target or other large chains for a number of reasons from outsourcing to employment practices so i can kinda see why you would refrain from using a "generic" line of products.

Not to be a nag but if companies can't patent a formula then its not that original or the research isn't ground breaking, just like groceries....are you going to spend 2 dollars more for the name brand, say quaker oats or kraft or go with the less expensive "stop n shop" (grocery store) product? If you can't patent it and make it your own then there's gonna be competition which is always good as long sellers don't get carried away and try to capitalize on a whole market (ie walmarts.) Plus brands like neutragena and oil of olay are always competing with each other by "biting" on the other's ideas. So why can't Sally's, CVS or a lesser known vendor get in the game? I mean it's what the good old US of A is all about right?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on September 13, 2006, 10:09:17 AM
Food is different because you're not paying for a proprietary formula.  No matter what name is stuck on it, sugar is sugar.  Same for many other grocery products.  Its not like the store brands are stealing anything from the name brand.

Neutrogena and Oil of Olay do their own research, even if they come up with similar products.  For example, they've all come up with some version of the 'touch of sun' type moisturiser, but they all have different formulations and even different active ingredients.  That's a completely different from stealing the exact same formula as another company.  It's the difference between a concept and a product.  Also, manufacturing tends to follow trends, just as fashion does.  When every single designer decides that torquoise is the 'it' color, is it because they were stealing each others ideas?

Also, the problem with patenting is that it's only for a limited time, and in order to patent the product, you have to make the exact formula public.  That means that after the patent is up, every single company has access to your exact formula.  Many companies choose not to patent their products in the hope that others won't be able to figure out their 'secret'.

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on September 13, 2006, 10:38:40 AM
First only some competing products have diff ingrediants most of which are inactive. take face wash & moisturizers, I know from experience that the majority of diff brands use the same stuff and same proportions as each other from spending way too much time trying to see "what" the differences were between each product. I'm not just going on the "content"/"purpose" of competing products.  I take the time to see what I'm actually purchasing and using.

And I know all about patents. The same thing happened to gore-tex a couple of years ago in regards to competitors getting a hold of "secrets", but the fact is that if a specific formula was worth patenting a company would do so, even if it was for a year. Because if a competitor wants to duplicate a product they will and can with today's technology and "know how." nothing is unique for too long in 2006.

the bottom line is that I only brought up Sally's generic line b/c oes stated she wasn't going to spend the money needed for the name brand products you and other's listed, and i can't blame her since she's a student and times can be hard. Your comment in regards to my suggestion was, to be frank, obnoxious. I should have said so in the first place but I didn't and here we are.

but its' all love moni
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on September 13, 2006, 11:01:02 AM
Just trying to keep myself entertained in the desert that BLSD has become.  ;)  Where is everybody?  Does it always end up like this?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on September 13, 2006, 11:05:02 AM
awww .. i posted a funny vid in the main thread...  :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on September 13, 2006, 11:11:50 AM
awww .. i posted a funny vid in the main thread...  :)

Can't see it at work  :(  Post a funny story!  :D

Or you can read my 250 to entertain yourself.  :P
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on September 13, 2006, 11:20:35 AM
awww .. i posted a funny vid in the main thread...  :)

Can't see it at work  :(  Post a funny story!  :D

Or you can read my 250 to entertain yourself.  :P

you can pm me it if you want me to. ill look at it. i have no funny stories tho.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on September 13, 2006, 11:46:41 AM
LOL  I feel ya lex.  Why pay more? Soooooooo you know me and my deal-finding ways:    Went to the 'hood ya'll and get this-  I got about 7 bottles of "the good stuff" (Read: Paul Michell,etc) for $5.  Why $5?  He's going out of business soon; store needs renovation for the new buyer.  He said $10 at first so I "canal streeted" ('sup NYCers  :D) him  down to $5!  Yep
   I'm def gonna go again this weekend to stock up
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on September 13, 2006, 01:40:55 PM
LOL  I feel ya lex.  Why pay more? Soooooooo you know me and my deal-finding ways:    Went to the 'hood ya'll and get this-  I got about 7 bottles of "the good stuff" (Read: Paul Michell,etc) for $5.  Why $5?  He's going out of business soon; store needs renovation for the new buyer.  He said $10 at first so I "canal streeted" ('sup NYCers  :D) him  down to $5!  Yep
   I'm def gonna go again this weekend to stock up

I'd sooooo be there!  I have no problem getting the good stuff for less.  I got some huge bottles of Nexxus for next to nothing cause they were getting rid of the stock at Ulta last Christmas.  You can also get some decent deals on most lines after Christmas when the holiday packs go on sale.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on September 13, 2006, 03:49:00 PM
or your good friend's mom could work in a salon and hook it up through her discount  ;D ;)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on September 13, 2006, 03:50:13 PM
or through her purse... ;D ;)

or your good friend's mom could work in a salon and hook it up through her discount  ;D ;)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: M DOT on September 13, 2006, 04:19:47 PM
Mrs. L would never, but everyone would come out a winner if she did....

love the signature blk

or through her purse... ;D ;)

or your good friend's mom could work in a salon and hook it up through her discount  ;D ;)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on October 05, 2006, 01:51:41 PM
Hey people . . .

I have given up the hot comb.

I have a generic "CHI" styling iron.  The first time I went to the salon to have my hair flat ironed in August, people were asking me if I had finally broken down and gotten a perm.  The CHI iron itself is like $120-$130 if you buy online, but I got a generic one that works just as well and costs about half as much.  Once you learn how to use the thing really well, you can curl your hair with it too.  Its pretty cool.

If you don't have a perm but are doing something else to straighten your hair, I highly recommend a CHI flat iron or its generic counterpart.  I was skeptical at first but now I believe! :)


Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on October 06, 2006, 02:13:48 PM
Have any of you ever tried kinky-curly custard?  I'm planning on taking out my braids, and my hair stylist recommended it for taming the mane.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on October 06, 2006, 02:45:52 PM
Hey people . . .

I have given up the hot comb.

I have a generic "CHI" styling iron.  The first time I went to the salon to have my hair flat ironed in August, people were asking me if I had finally broken down and gotten a perm.  The CHI iron itself is like $120-$130 if you buy online, but I got a generic one that works just as well and costs about half as much.  Once you learn how to use the thing really well, you can curl your hair with it too.  Its pretty cool.

If you don't have a perm but are doing something else to straighten your hair, I highly recommend a CHI flat iron or its generic counterpart.  I was skeptical at first but now I believe! :)




The CHI iron sounds good.  Did you buy the generic counterpart online?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on October 09, 2006, 07:17:59 AM
I got my generic one from Sally Beauty Supply but they had it behind the counter.  Ask someone about it and they should be able to help you.

Hey people . . .

I have given up the hot comb.

I have a generic "CHI" styling iron.  The first time I went to the salon to have my hair flat ironed in August, people were asking me if I had finally broken down and gotten a perm.  The CHI iron itself is like $120-$130 if you buy online, but I got a generic one that works just as well and costs about half as much.  Once you learn how to use the thing really well, you can curl your hair with it too.  Its pretty cool.

If you don't have a perm but are doing something else to straighten your hair, I highly recommend a CHI flat iron or its generic counterpart.  I was skeptical at first but now I believe! :)




The CHI iron sounds good.  Did you buy the generic counterpart online?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on October 09, 2006, 08:57:22 AM
cool will do.  :)  I'm loving my triple barrel iron right now. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on October 09, 2006, 09:54:11 AM
Does anyone have any feedback on Carol's Daughter products?  They look really good, but I was wondering if they might be too heavy for permed hair.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Keeshi on October 09, 2006, 11:57:28 AM
Have any of you ever tried kinky-curly custard?  I'm planning on taking out my braids, and my hair stylist recommended it for taming the mane.

I use this for my puffs and shake and go's. It has a very slimy consistency, but it works great to define and tame your curls.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on October 11, 2006, 05:15:26 PM
I did some research, and the similar thing also happens with the real CHI.  I'd rather pay half of the money and have it die in 8 months than to pay full price for one that will do the same thing.  Furthermore if I use an electrical appliance weekly for 8 months, I half expect it to die.  Its just in the nature of things. I figure if I paid 70 dollars for it and it lasts me 7 months, that's 10 dollars a month. Either way its worth it to me. $2.50 a week is better than $40.00 at the salon.

Plus my generic has a years warranty on it anyway. 

Hey gotta comment on this one -

I have hair that needs to be burned into submission, so I've got experience.

I originally bought a generic CHI, and it worked great but it died after 8 months. Several of my friends did, too, and I think pretty much all of us ran into that problem. If you are planning on investing the money in a decent flat iron and plan on using it (almost) every day, you should just go for the real deal.

I love my CHI. A reliable friend.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: BrwnEydGrl on October 25, 2006, 03:23:44 PM
Does anyone have any feedback on Carol's Daughter products?  They look really good, but I was wondering if they might be too heavy for permed hair.

Carols Daughter products I assume would be quite heavy on relaxed hair because of the beeswax in most of their products...but Ive heard their products aren't the greatest for the price anyways ??? Im currently transitioning but once Im fully natural I plan to try the Healthy Hair butter, ive heard nothing but great things about it. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: bijou on October 26, 2006, 08:40:25 AM
Does anyone have any feedback on Carol's Daughter products?  They look really good, but I was wondering if they might be too heavy for permed hair.

I guess it depends on which products you're thinking of trying.  I personally love the Black Vanilla Leave-in Conditioner (transfer it to a spray bottle), and it doesn't weigh down my hair at all, plus it smells much better on my hair than in the bottle.  The Healthy Hair Butter I'd stay away from.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on October 26, 2006, 10:21:27 AM
Does anyone have any feedback on Carol's Daughter products?  They look really good, but I was wondering if they might be too heavy for permed hair.

I guess it depends on which products you're thinking of trying.  I personally love the Black Vanilla Leave-in Conditioner (transfer it to a spray bottle), and it doesn't weigh down my hair at all, plus it smells much better on my hair than in the bottle.  The Healthy Hair Butter I'd stay away from.

What other CD products do you use?  I'm assuming from your comments that your hair is relaxed.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: bijou on October 27, 2006, 07:47:29 AM
Does anyone have any feedback on Carol's Daughter products?  They look really good, but I was wondering if they might be too heavy for permed hair.

I guess it depends on which products you're thinking of trying.  I personally love the Black Vanilla Leave-in Conditioner (transfer it to a spray bottle), and it doesn't weigh down my hair at all, plus it smells much better on my hair than in the bottle.  The Healthy Hair Butter I'd stay away from.

What other CD products do you use?  I'm assuming from your comments that your hair is relaxed.

My hair is (recently) relaxed. Of the CD hair products line I've also tried the Tui Oil, smells great, just use sparingly. I want to try the Sea Moss shampoo as well, maybe when I get through my current product.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: crazy8 on October 27, 2006, 08:14:22 AM
just got the curly custard products, going to try it out and  post my critque  :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on November 14, 2006, 06:54:03 PM
Man, I been waitin' almost a month for this critique. Imabouta call you out.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on November 16, 2006, 06:25:06 AM
Yesterday was my 8-month lociversary and my hair still hasn't solidified yet. :(  I still think it's cute, though, or at least "funky."
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Anne Shirley on November 16, 2006, 06:35:05 AM
Yesterday was my 8-month lociversary and my hair still hasn't solidified yet. :(  I still think it's cute, though, or at least "funky."

Congrats. Sounds like you made it through the hardest part.  Your hair will be down your back before you know it. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on November 16, 2006, 08:31:41 AM
alright now ;D... it should be completely locked in 4 months... I am sure it looks great

Yesterday was my 8-month lociversary and my hair still hasn't solidified yet. :(  I still think it's cute, though, or at least "funky."
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: newme165 on November 16, 2006, 01:30:48 PM
Yesterday was my 8-month lociversary and my hair still hasn't solidified yet. :(  I still think it's cute, though, or at least "funky."

I am in the boat and love this stage.....I think its a real funky and young look. I am sure you look great!!!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Jwebony956 on November 19, 2006, 07:20:03 PM
Does anyone have any feedback on Carol's Daughter products?  They look really good, but I was wondering if they might be too heavy for permed hair.

Totally depends on the product. I prefer the oils than the butters because I cannot stand the smell of those butters! And CD is way overrated. I prefer Asha's products, Qhemet Biologics and Anita Grant. All black-owned companies, better customer service and better products  IMO. Though all specialize in natural hair care relaxed sisters also use their products. :)

www.myashas.com
www.qhemetbiologics.com
www.anitagrant.com
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: P.U.S.H on November 19, 2006, 09:20:14 PM
I have a lil curly fro right now, and most people over here (Okinawa) love it or at least try to put their hands all in it.

As much as I love the fro, I'm ready to start trying some new styles or I'm afraid a perm will start calling out to my in my sleep  ;)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on November 25, 2006, 04:16:01 PM
Does anyone have any feedback on Carol's Daughter products?  They look really good, but I was wondering if they might be too heavy for permed hair.

Totally depends on the product. I prefer the oils than the butters because I cannot stand the smell of those butters! And CD is way overrated. I prefer Asha's products, Qhemet Biologics and Anita Grant. All black-owned companies, better customer service and better products  IMO. Though all specialize in natural hair care relaxed sisters also use their products. :)

www.myashas.com
www.qhemetbiologics.com
www.anitagrant.com

That's so weird.. everybody that I know that uses 'em keeps saying the same thing about the butters. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: newme165 on December 09, 2006, 02:16:43 PM
My locks are still babies. But when I wash them I can't retwist right away, because they take forever to dry. Does anyone have any tips on how to wash/dry in a fast way? Also does anyone have any advice on how often to wash locks in the early stages?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on December 09, 2006, 03:22:56 PM
Keep it real - summa yall needs to be postin in a Weave Thread.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: newme165 on December 09, 2006, 05:03:25 PM
not me ;D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on December 09, 2006, 05:41:56 PM
My locks are still babies. But when I wash them I can't retwist right away, because they take forever to dry. Does anyone have any tips on how to wash/dry in a fast way? Also does anyone have any advice on how often to wash locks in the early stages?

I've had locks for about 2.5 years, so I'll tell you what worked for me.  Blk has mature locs too, so she might have some advice as well :)

I don't suggest you wait until your hair is dry to retwist. It really should be damp, because twisting dry hair can be damaging (that's why you really should fight the urge to twist locs that go astray in between washings). Basically, after washing your hair you should be getting out the excess water with a towel before twisting it. Don't "massage" your hair with the towel, just wrap the towel around your hair like a turban, the "massaging" action might loosen some locs that haven't formed yet. When you unwrap your hair, it shouldn't feel soaking wet, but it shouldn't feel close to dry either. Just twist it like you normally would, and keep in the clips while your hair dries. 

The fastest way to dry your hair is with the help of heat.  You might want to invest in a hood dryer, since it spreads the heat evenly. Sit under it for about 30/40 minutes. I use a blow dryer and just wave it over my locs until they aren't damp to the touch (about 2 -3 minutes). Basically, you should really use the heat to get your hair to the point where the locs aren't wet/damp unless you pinch them and then air dry. Don't go to sleep on wet locs though, because you don't want them to smell like mildew.

I try to do my hair when I know I'm going to be awake for at least three hours after finishing twisting my hair, which takes about an hour. So the whole washing, twisting and drying process for me takes about 4.5 hours.

I hope that helps you :)

BTW - Your hair looks cute in the pic :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on December 09, 2006, 06:55:13 PM
Inquirer, you're always so helpful :)

I'm sitting under my hood dryer right now ;D They are just about $30.

My locs aren't mature (about 9 mos.), but I washed them every 2 weeks all along the way, but sometimes more often (without retwisting) over the summer.

My locks are still babies. But when I wash them I can't retwist right away, because they take forever to dry. Does anyone have any tips on how to wash/dry in a fast way? Also does anyone have any advice on how often to wash locks in the early stages?

I've had locks for about 2.5 years, so I'll tell you what worked for me.  Blk has mature locs too, so she might have some advice as well :)

I don't suggest you wait until your hair is dry to retwist. It really should be damp, because twisting dry hair can be damaging (that's why you really should fight the urge to twist locs that go astray in between washings). Basically, after washing your hair you should be getting out the excess water with a towel before twisting it. Don't "massage" your hair with the towel, just wrap the towel around your hair like a turban, the "massaging" action might loosen some locs that haven't formed yet. When you unwrap your hair, it shouldn't feel soaking wet, but it shouldn't feel close to dry either. Just twist it like you normally would, and keep in the clips while your hair dries. 

The fastest way to dry your hair is with the help of heat.  You might want to invest in a hood dryer, since it spreads the heat evenly. Sit under it for about 30/40 minutes. I use a blow dryer and just wave it over my locs until they aren't damp to the touch (about 2 -3 minutes). Basically, you should really use the heat to get your hair to the point where the locs aren't wet/damp unless you pinch them and then air dry. Don't go to sleep on wet locs though, because you don't want them to smell like mildew.

I try to do my hair when I know I'm going to be awake for at least three hours after finishing twisting my hair, which takes about an hour. So the whole washing, twisting and drying process for me takes about 4.5 hours.

I hope that helps you :)

BTW - Your hair looks cute in the pic :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on December 10, 2006, 04:44:51 PM
Keep it real - summa yall needs to be postin in a Weave Thread.


LMAO, you knows youse a straightup fool!   :P :D

BTW, not me either  :)

And I dont have locks but I also have my own hooded dryer, extremely handy!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: newme165 on December 10, 2006, 05:49:36 PM
Thanks for the info ladies.....I will be getting a dryer shortly!!!!! :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on December 10, 2006, 05:53:38 PM
just take out your hair and hang it outside like everyone else.  :D

jk..

been waiting to say that.  :P
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on December 13, 2006, 12:26:59 PM
Any thoughts on biosilk, umberto, or bumble and bumble?


I've heard that biosilk and bumble and bumble are good, never used either or them.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on December 13, 2006, 01:11:58 PM
Bumble is soooo good for my texture. I have a bumble bumble routine. It's wonderful. Super great even.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on December 13, 2006, 01:20:30 PM
ooc? thanks in advance!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on December 13, 2006, 01:28:57 PM
that sounds accurate.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on December 13, 2006, 01:29:31 PM
that sounds accurate.

shut up you're not funny
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on December 13, 2006, 01:30:03 PM
that sounds inaccurate
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on December 13, 2006, 01:53:42 PM
that sounds inaccurate

ignore me; i'm in a terrible mood today :-[
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on December 13, 2006, 02:11:29 PM
that sounds accurate
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on December 14, 2006, 08:34:56 AM
that sounds accurate

lmao-  ooc   tsa (=that sounds accurate)....ya'll are cracking me up
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: bijou on December 20, 2006, 11:56:38 AM
I'm wondering if anyone here has tried the PhytoSpecific relaxer (either of the formulas)?  I re-joined the dark side a few years ago and started perming my hair, but now I feel like it's starting to take a toll on my hair.  I'd love to switch to a "no-chemical" relaxer, but does it really work on "black" hair?  Dropping $60 on a perm kit is no joke...my current relaxer of choice is Mizani.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on December 20, 2006, 12:47:13 PM
I'm wondering if anyone here has tried the PhytoSpecific relaxer (either of the formulas)?  I re-joined the dark side a few years ago and started perming my hair, but now I feel like it's starting to take a toll on my hair.  I'd love to switch to a "no-chemical" relaxer, but does it really work on "black" hair?  Dropping $60 on a perm kit is no joke...my current relaxer of choice is Mizani.

I haven't used it, but I've heard great things about it.  Black women definitely use it, including Oprah.  I was thinking of switching to it when I move back to the US for ls.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: bijou on December 21, 2006, 11:10:58 AM
I haven't used it, but I've heard great things about it.  Black women definitely use it, including Oprah.  I was thinking of switching to it when I move back to the US for ls.

Thanks Moni!  And I'll let you know how it works out for me if I try it out before then...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on December 21, 2006, 03:55:10 PM
My mom's hair is falling out. She thinks it's female pattern baldness, but considering that it's not following the normal pattern of FPB and that it's concentrated on her right temple and right side, I think it's her hair finally giving out after years of stress--pressing, Jheri curl, then relaxer for ages. And her hair was on the thinner side anyway.

While I'm home for the next three weeks, I'm going to try to convince her of this and to try to get her to go natural. When she saw me last night she was like, "Wow, your hair is growing and mine is falling out!" (Which was interesting because I've always had trouble with my hair until going natural but she's never really had problem hair.) My sister (who has a relaxer and isn't giving it up anytime soon) thinks that maybe we can get her to press it until it grows out--that's not ideal, but it's better than the perm, I think.

Has anyone else experienced this? People talk about it on nappturality but they tend to be more dogmatic about the evils of the perm than I am. I just want her to understand that it's not age, it's the perm, and thus she should let it go.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on December 21, 2006, 04:08:28 PM
she can try rogaine women's formula or try braiding (although you know what she needs to watch for)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on December 21, 2006, 04:11:56 PM
what evil about a perm, in their opinion?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on December 21, 2006, 04:17:35 PM
she can try rogaine women's formula or try braiding (although you know what she needs to watch for)

Interestingly enough, she's already taking meds for it. It's not changing anything 'cause she's still perming.

what evil about a perm, in their opinion?

People have different views. Some people believe it's that whole wannabe-white thing. But I think more people think it's crazy to subject yourself to things like chemical burns, alopecia, etc. for the sake of a hairstyle. The latter is a better reason to oppose perming, imo. But I don't really want to get into all that - some folks like it.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on December 21, 2006, 04:22:13 PM
I think she probably needs to give her scalp a break, but I don't know if you should phrase it as her "going natural."

Has she changed stylists?  If not she probably needs to and maybe she should be getting a kiddie perm (after the break).

btw hit me up when you have a few mins
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on December 21, 2006, 04:34:56 PM
INM -


Let your sister know that pressing will probably cause just as many problems, if she gets a good "hard press."  

When I was natural, A stylist pressed my hair once and it basically burnt my hair. My hair was straight for about a week, but my two strand twists looked an awful mess because the pressing ruined the texture of my hair. I finally got so frustrated with the mess that I shaved my hair off and started over. A few years after that, I got my hair pressed again a few months before locking (I wanted to see what it looked like straight) and the woman who did it, didn't press it as hard as the first time, so the damage wasn't bad at all - my hair was only straight for a day and a half that time though. Really, any type of regular heat - even hair drying -  is likely to cause more damage. It sounds like what would be best for your mom is to give her hair a break for a little while.


Like OSA said, there are some products that promote hair growth that your mom might want to try. I've heard that a line called "Organic Root Stimulator" or something like that, and their products are supposedly really good. If she does get braids, just make sure the person isn't braiding too tight. If she's into it, she might want to consider getting a sewn in weave or even wearing a wig while her hair gets healthier. There are a lot of nice wigs out there and a good weave can last just as long as some braids. It might sound crazy, but she might also want to do daily scalp massages of the thinning parts to promote blood flow and hair growth :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on December 21, 2006, 05:37:53 PM
INM -


 I've heard that a line called "Organic Root Stimulator" or something like that, and their products are supposedly really good.

"I'm no mia":
Yep, Inquirer's right.  Actually I'm not afraid to admit that I've had some personal experience with 'Organic Root Stimulator'.  I, at first, thought it was a waste of money but that in combination with letting my hair just chill out- that was the ONLY thing that I allowed myself to put in-  really helped when my hair was breaking off due to stress and simply not properly taking care of my hair. NOW I wrap it at night, put the satin "grandma" cap on too because the pillow case I used to sleep on was doing some serious damage.  She may not realize it but she may be doing a lot of damage to her hair in her sleep.  Does she have a satin pillow case? If not, go get her one.  Regular pillow cases just mess up our hair.  Satin pillow cases aren't a lot of money either-  can get from the local Beauty supply places for less than $5-  well the medium-large beauty supply stores  not the 'whole in the wall' places.  Hope that helps  :) :)

oh yeah and if she insists on perming (please beg her to stop- even just for a little while- a few months; she needs to let her hair just "breathe") but tell her only get "profectiv"-  it's a perm that specializes in repairing damaged hair (can get it at Walmart ;D). 

feel free to PM me if you have any questions about my hair "woes"  :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on December 22, 2006, 05:50:42 AM
I'm No Mia - has she looked into changing up shampoos?  Along with the no perm thing, going to a high quality shampoo/conditioner (ex. Biolage) could really help repair some damage.

Here's one for y'all.  Living in the north is finally beginning to take a toll on my scalp - it's so much drier here!  Any suggestions for a (not greasy, if possible) scalp treatment that provides hardcore moisture, or should I just go find some Pink Lotion :)? (If it helps, my hair is permed and colored, but most wouldn't guess that as I wear it naturally in a sort of . . . curly 'fro, it's a bit hard to explain.)

Don't get Pink Lotion.  It contains mineral oil, which is terrible for our hair!  I would try to find some natural products, or at least those that don't contain mineral oil and petroleum.  How do you wash, condition and style your hair?  Try hot oil treatments before you wash, using olive oil, and deep conditioning treatments. 

Are you looking for something to moisturise your hair or your scalp?  For scalp, I mixed up a light oil with olive oil and essential oils (tea tree and lavender) which seems to be working well.  For hair, I mixed up a cream using shea butter, some olive oil and essential oils, blending it with a hand mixer until it was a nice light texture.  Obviously not everyone is going to want to do that, so I've heard good things about elasta qp mango butter.  Some good natural lines are My asha's (myashas.com) and Qhemet biologics (qhemetbiologics.com).  A good forum for hair advice is Black Hair Media (http://forum.blackhairmedia.com).

Let me know if you have any other questions.  Like Cui bono, I went through my own hair drama in my final semester of school. I had to cut it off to about an inch long, stopped using heat and changing my products and hair routine and 18 months later its at my shoulders.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on December 22, 2006, 07:29:11 AM
I was kidding about the Pink Lotion ;D.

Thanks Moni Lisa, is a scalp thing, not a hair thing, the hair's a bit drier, but nothing to worry overmuch about . . . I actually have so much hair that scalp treatments are difficult to administer :-\. 

My hair regimen of choice is Biolage (hence the recommendation earlier) and involves a wash once a week, followed by conditioning (this is when I comb it out, massage my scalp etc., because even with a perm my hair will dred on its own if left to its own devices :)) for 10+ minutes.  I put a little bit of product in it, defining cream mostly and let it airdry.  In the last 3 years, my hair's seen heat maybe . . . 4 times.  Until I moved up here, even hairdressers would compliment me on the condition of my head. Ah well, both of those home remedies sound amazing, and I'm absolutely going to give each of them tries.



If your scalp is starting to flake, try mixing lemon juice and olive oil and applying it directly to your scalp, then heating olive oil and putting that on your hair.  I do that every week, sometimes adding lemon juice, honey, and/or essential oils to the oo for my hair, then wrap my head in plastic wrap and leave it for about 30-69 mins.  My family are used to seeing me walking around the house looking like a crazy person!  I have a hood dryer, so I'll occaisionally sit under the dryer for a deep condition.  Also, you can also do an apple cidar vinegar final rinse.  This is 1 part acv to 3 parts water, massage into your hair and scalp for a few minutes than rinse out.  It helps to restore the ph of your hair and remove any harmful buildup.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on December 22, 2006, 07:37:47 AM
That's awesome! :-*  You should attend Michigan.

Or you should apply to Penn  ;)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on December 25, 2006, 02:57:02 PM
Admittedly, I'm too tired to read this entire post, but in case anyone is looking for information about the care of natural AA hair,  the premier place to look is...

www.nappturality.com (http://www.nappturality.com)


I've been natural since '01...rocking 'fros, twists, twist-outs, puffs, etc. all over the globe...and I am 4 months into my loc'ing journey.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on December 26, 2006, 10:14:24 AM
Admittedly, I'm too tired to read this entire post, but in case anyone is looking for information about the care of natural AA hair,  the premier place to look is...

www.nappturality.com (http://www.nappturality.com)


I've been natural since '01...rocking 'fros, twists, twist-outs, puffs, etc. all over the globe...and I am 4 months into my loc'ing journey.

yeah, i've been a member of NP.com for awhile now. There are a good number of natural folks on BLSD (though I feel like some of them are gone now.) I know Blk_reign and the poster formerly known as Sondra Huxtable have had locs for a long time. The poster formerly known as Lex was talking about starting them but I'm not sure what happened with that. I've been loc'ing for about 9.5 months myself :) (They've started to look more calm lately, though I can no longer do my favorite spiky style without looking like a freak :()
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on December 27, 2006, 12:03:57 PM
i'm still around.. not as often as i used to be.. but i'm here :)..locing for almost 4 yrs now
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: nar8402 on December 28, 2006, 03:07:52 PM
Hey Everyone,  Ok so my goal is to one day loc my hair up, but getting off the relaxer is so hard.  I stopped perming my hair for about six months but then when summer came it was just to much for me.  What's a girl to do?  I wanna have the fro one day but how should I go about this?  So how do you step down from the perm?   ???
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on December 28, 2006, 04:14:48 PM
Hey Everyone,  Ok so my goal is to one day loc my hair up, but getting off the relaxer is so hard.  I stopped perming my hair for about six months but then when summer came it was just to much for me.  What's a girl to do?  I wanna have the fro one day but how should I go about this?  So how do you step down from the perm?   ???

You gotta go cold turkey. it's like crack. cut the *&^% off!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on December 28, 2006, 05:10:23 PM
LOL Opoto :D

nar, it varies from person to person. I'm a big fan of transitioning using braid or twist extensions because it made life a lot easier, but sometimes that can slow hair growth (at least it did with me). Some people who still want straight hair in the meantime press their new growth and gradually cut off the relaxer. Others advocate just cutting all the relaxed hair off (a big chop) and wearing a TWA (teeny weeny afro). At one point during my transition, when I was home in SC and had neither money nor knowledge to do my 2-3 inches of natural hair, I wore a wig! You should go to nappturality.com, to the forum, and then to the transitioners' area. You will get a multitude of ideas for transitioning.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on December 28, 2006, 05:17:34 PM
If they made a perm patch, man...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on December 28, 2006, 05:18:34 PM
If they made a perm patch, man...

I still wouldn't use it. :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on December 28, 2006, 09:57:20 PM
 :D :D :D


If they made a perm patch, man...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on December 29, 2006, 08:10:41 AM
Hey Everyone,  Ok so my goal is to one day loc my hair up, but getting off the relaxer is so hard.  I stopped perming my hair for about six months but then when summer came it was just to much for me.  What's a girl to do?  I wanna have the fro one day but how should I go about this?  So how do you step down from the perm?   ???

Register to join the discussion forum at http://www.nappturality.com (http://www.nappturality.com)  You will find everything you need...from tips and advice to other people's photo journals documenting their transition from perms to natural styles.  Another good source of information is to stop people you see around with beautiful natural hair and ask them for salon recommendations or about their transition.  Most people will gladly share what they know.  HTH
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on December 29, 2006, 08:49:27 AM
Black hair media is another great discussion forum, as they have all sorts of sections (natural, permed, transitioning, etc).
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on December 29, 2006, 08:58:09 AM
Hey Everyone,  Ok so my goal is to one day loc my hair up, but getting off the relaxer is so hard.  I stopped perming my hair for about six months but then when summer came it was just to much for me.  What's a girl to do?  I wanna have the fro one day but how should I go about this?  So how do you step down from the perm?   ???

Eventually - you're gonna have to cut off the relaxed parts of your hair (unless you want it to start breaking off).

When I first went natural my junior year in UG (about 6 years ago), I cut all of the relaxer off and had about a inch of hair at first. I usually just washed my hair, put some gel in it and went on about my business. It was easy for me to cut my hair because I was into something that required me to have short hair. After that activity was over though, I kept my hair braided for a few months until it was long enough to two strand twist.

Like Mrs. Troy and Nat. said, nappturality is a good site. I also go to naani.com for tips and style ideas.  Also, there are groups on myspace and facebook for people with natural hair, so search those places too because people might be willing to share their stories :)

------

Blk --  

I wanna do a curly look. I've done a small rod set before, but it turned out more wavy than curly (that might be because I didn't use setting lotion or anything). I'm thinking about buying some setting product by Oyin and soft spike curlers - have you ever used them or heard anything good about them?

EDIT: I think I asked Sondra/Anne about the curlers a while back, but I'm still trying to feel out how it might look on larger locs.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on December 29, 2006, 09:39:45 AM
hey Inq..

I have never used any Oyin products so I can't give you an opinion on them.. .I've used Carol's Daughter a couple of times and to be honest I really don't like it at all..too much hype

you don't have to use a setting lotion in order to make your hair curly.. what you need to do is buy some large hard rollers- not soft because they won't give you the effect that you want.... take about three of your locs and roll them up into each roller.. tie your hair up over night and get up unroll them the next morning.. or if you don't have to leave the next day leave them in for 24 hours..

if you want the wavy/crinkly look..  you can do one of two things.. cornrow your locs (i really don't do that because it hurts like hell when they're tight) or braid/plait them up three- four at a time and tie the ends with small rubber bands.. u can actually rock the plait style for a few days and pull your locs in an updo or pony tail if you'd like for a different look.. then two- three days later unplait them and the crinkle look will last for a couple of weeks..
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on December 29, 2006, 10:10:11 AM
if you want the wavy/crinkly look..  you can do one of two things.. cornrow your locs (i really don't do that because it hurts like hell when they're tight) or braid/plait them up three- four at a time and tie the ends with small rubber bands.. u can actually rock the plait style for a few days and pull your locs in an updo or pony tail if you'd like for a different look.. then two- three days later unplait them and the crinkle look will last for a couple of weeks..

That sounds tooo cute! Thanks!

Tonight is my hair night, so I'm gonna try that this weekend :)

Thanks for telling me about the setting lotion. The Oyin stuff looked like it would leave visible residue on my hair, but since I don't need it, I won't worry about it  :D I'm not good about sleeping on rollers though (I only left the rods in for about three hours during the day when I tried it before), so it looks like I may have to go to the shop for the curls :(

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on December 29, 2006, 10:26:23 AM
Black hair media is another great discussion forum, as they have all sorts of sections (natural, permed, transitioning, etc).

I finally went to that site yesterday (can you tell I'm procrastinating? :D) Their section on locs was weak. I'd prolly go there for stuff about relaxed hair or for info about heat styling (since nappturality shuns that as well), but for anything natural I'd head to nappturality or naani.

I made the mistake of putting honey on my hair yesterday. It worked well the first time but I put a little too much in and now my hair is sooo crunchy. I'll wash it today.

My mom was messing around with my hair last night and was like, "Your hair smells so good!" I guess she was surprised. :D My family's more white-like because they tend not to broadcast if they have something bad to say about you (e.g., weight, hair, clothes), but she showed herself with that comment! ((shaking my head))
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on December 29, 2006, 10:32:39 AM
Black hair media is another great discussion forum, as they have all sorts of sections (natural, permed, transitioning, etc).

I finally went to that site yesterday (can you tell I'm procrastinating? :D) Their section on locs was weak. I'd prolly go there for stuff about relaxed hair or for info about heat styling (since nappturality shuns that as well), but for anything natural I'd head to nappturality or naani.

I made the mistake of putting honey on my hair yesterday. It worked well the first time but I put a little too much in and now my hair is sooo crunchy. I'll wash it today.

My mom was messing around with my hair last night and was like, "Your hair smells so good!" I guess she was surprised. :D My family's more white-like because they tend not to broadcast if they have something bad to say about you (e.g., weight, hair, clothes), but she showed herself with that comment! ((shaking my head))

I have my olive oil, honey, lemon juice (amounts in that order) mix in now because I'm getting my hair done right after work.  I mixed them and heated them this morning, massaged it into my hair and scalp then pulled my hair back.  I swear the honey is better than any gel I've used; it doesn't move  :D.  They'll wash it out this afternoon and it'll be extra soft.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on December 29, 2006, 10:34:18 AM
Does anyone use natural and/or organic shampoos?  I want to try Anita Grant's shampoo bar, but it's backordered until the end of next month and I want something in the interim.  I'm trying to use as many natural products as possible.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on December 29, 2006, 10:41:05 AM
Does anyone use natural and/or organic shampoos?  I want to try Anita Grant's shampoo bar, but it's backordered until the end of next month and I want something in the interim.  I'm trying to use as many natural products as possible.

I don't know what you mean by natural, but I use a knockoff of Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap. It is amazing. I sometimes also use Carol's Daughter Rosemary Mint, and it also amazing. Two best shampoos I've ever used.

Qhemet Biologics is supposed to be great, but I've never used it.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on December 29, 2006, 10:50:26 AM
Does anyone use natural and/or organic shampoos?  I want to try Anita Grant's shampoo bar, but it's backordered until the end of next month and I want something in the interim.  I'm trying to use as many natural products as possible.

I don't know what you mean by natural, but I use a knockoff of Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap. It is amazing. I sometimes also use Carol's Daughter Rosemary Mint, and it also amazing. Two best shampoos I've ever used.

Qhemet Biologics is supposed to be great, but I've never used it.

I just ordered some of their products!  I'll let you know how they are.  Unfortunately, I didn't order the shampoo.  Stupid me.

By natural I mean not chemically based, or generally healthy (ie none of the harsh ingredients, petroleum, etc). Do you find soap based shampoos to be harsh or drying?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on December 29, 2006, 11:41:56 AM
Does anyone use natural and/or organic shampoos?  I want to try Anita Grant's shampoo bar, but it's backordered until the end of next month and I want something in the interim.  I'm trying to use as many natural products as possible.

I don't know what you mean by natural, but I use a knockoff of Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap. It is amazing. I sometimes also use Carol's Daughter Rosemary Mint, and it also amazing. Two best shampoos I've ever used.

Qhemet Biologics is supposed to be great, but I've never used it.

I just ordered some of their products!  I'll let you know how they are.  Unfortunately, I didn't order the shampoo.  Stupid me.

By natural I mean not chemically based, or generally healthy (ie none of the harsh ingredients, petroleum, etc). Do you find soap based shampoos to be harsh or drying?

Definitely! I like castile soaps, but detergent-based soaps (basically shampoos with sulfates) are absolutely terrible on my hair. I noticed a big change by switching away from cheap shampoos.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on December 29, 2006, 11:43:14 AM
Does anyone use natural and/or organic shampoos?  I want to try Anita Grant's shampoo bar, but it's backordered until the end of next month and I want something in the interim.  I'm trying to use as many natural products as possible.

I don't know what you mean by natural, but I use a knockoff of Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap. It is amazing. I sometimes also use Carol's Daughter Rosemary Mint, and it also amazing. Two best shampoos I've ever used.

Qhemet Biologics is supposed to be great, but I've never used it.

I just ordered some of their products!  I'll let you know how they are.  Unfortunately, I didn't order the shampoo.  Stupid me.

By natural I mean not chemically based, or generally healthy (ie none of the harsh ingredients, petroleum, etc). Do you find soap based shampoos to be harsh or drying?

Definitely! I like castile soaps, but detergent-based soaps (basically shampoos with sulfates) are absolutely terrible on my hair. I noticed a big change by switching away from cheap shampoos.

So castile soaps are diff from regular soaps?  I was under the impression that all bar soaps are bad.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on December 29, 2006, 11:46:24 AM
Does anyone use natural and/or organic shampoos?  I want to try Anita Grant's shampoo bar, but it's backordered until the end of next month and I want something in the interim.  I'm trying to use as many natural products as possible.

I don't know what you mean by natural, but I use a knockoff of Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap. It is amazing. I sometimes also use Carol's Daughter Rosemary Mint, and it also amazing. Two best shampoos I've ever used.

Qhemet Biologics is supposed to be great, but I've never used it.

I just ordered some of their products!  I'll let you know how they are.  Unfortunately, I didn't order the shampoo.  Stupid me.

By natural I mean not chemically based, or generally healthy (ie none of the harsh ingredients, petroleum, etc). Do you find soap based shampoos to be harsh or drying?

Definitely! I like castile soaps, but detergent-based soaps (basically shampoos with sulfates) are absolutely terrible on my hair. I noticed a big change by switching away from cheap shampoos.

So castile soaps are diff from regular soaps?  I was under the impression that all bar soaps are bad.

I don't use the bar, I use the liquid versions. But castile soaps are a lot less drying for me. The detergent soaps are what dry my hair out. But I'm sure it's different for different people - I mean, some people swear by using just conditioner to wash.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: nar8402 on December 29, 2006, 01:17:57 PM
Hey Everyone,  Ok so my goal is to one day loc my hair up, but getting off the relaxer is so hard.  I stopped perming my hair for about six months but then when summer came it was just to much for me.  What's a girl to do?  I wanna have the fro one day but how should I go about this?  So how do you step down from the perm?   ???

Register to join the discussion forum at http://www.nappturality.com (http://www.nappturality.com)  You will find everything you need...from tips and advice to other people's photo journals documenting their transition from perms to natural styles.  Another good source of information is to stop people you see around with beautiful natural hair and ask them for salon recommendations or about their transition.  Most people will gladly share what they know.  HTH



Thanks Everyone, Im going to do a little research first and then I will see what I will do.  I have already done the let it grow out and cut the permed hair off thing.  But yeah I am going to have to do something because I am tired of my hair.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on December 30, 2006, 04:51:50 PM
Blk -- I did the braid thing.  I took it out after a few hours b/c I was excited to see the result, but it still turned out really nice.  I'm going out on Tuesday, so I'm going to redo my hair on Monday and keep it in overnight for more defined results.  Thanks again :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: atlplyr6 on December 30, 2006, 04:52:39 PM
I don't know who you are and you don't now who I am, so it would be in your best interest to keep my "name" out of your posts.  If you have beef with folks on here then that's between you and them.  I try to stay clear of this cyber drama not involving me, so I don't appreciate you trying to drag me into it.  Enough said. >:( >:( >:(

hypocrite, how do you like it?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on December 30, 2006, 05:25:28 PM
I don't know who you are and you don't now who I am, so it would be in your best interest to keep my "name" out of your posts.  If you have beef with folks on here then that's between you and them.  I try to stay clear of this cyber drama not involving me, so I don't appreciate you trying to drag me into it.  Enough said. >:( >:( >:(

hypocrite, how do you like it?

WTF?! Why is this posted in every fuccing thread?!?! Grow up, man!   Your incessant need to hate - and obstruct decent conversations in the process - makes my eyes itch!! I swear you need to change your next name to "atlh8tr," cause that seems more in line with your purpose for existing on this board.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on January 02, 2007, 09:03:27 AM
you're very welcome.. I'm glad I could help.. and I'm glad that it turned out nicely for you..


Ms. Troy I don't know how long your hair is but you may be able to do this as well to get that spikey look that you want.. just don't band the locs together at the ends 

Blk -- I did the braid thing.  I took it out after a few hours b/c I was excited to see the result, but it still turned out really nice.  I'm going out on Tuesday, so I'm going to redo my hair on Monday and keep it in overnight for more defined results.  Thanks again :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on January 02, 2007, 09:16:03 AM
So who in here perms? aka livin foul?  :D jk
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: LadyKD on January 02, 2007, 10:51:27 AM
How is having permed/relaxed hair living foul?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on January 02, 2007, 10:59:57 AM
How come jk?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: LadyKD on January 02, 2007, 11:07:15 AM
I missed the laughing face..hard to tell on this board somedays..so my bad.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on January 02, 2007, 11:11:50 AM
How come you need glasses?  :D :D jk
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on January 06, 2007, 05:10:26 PM
http://nappyme.wordpress.com/2006/11/16/the-natural-choice/

great article about hair. might have been pasted before.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on January 06, 2007, 05:13:49 PM
Dear Moni-

Tried some of your tricks and it worked like a charm.

My hair and I thank you.

For real.

 :-* :-* :-*,
Gengis

You're welcome  :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on January 08, 2007, 11:00:37 AM
any hair products (natural to semi-natural products, that is) for warm weather climates?  My hair looked great in NY and now it's getting "poofy"
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on January 08, 2007, 09:01:35 PM
any hair products (natural to semi-natural products, that is) for warm weather climates?  My hair looked great in NY and now it's getting "poofy"

Just go with it.  Dont try to work it stick straight, go with a more curly style.  Your hair will thank you.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on January 08, 2007, 09:23:45 PM
So, I'm considering getting locs...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on January 08, 2007, 09:28:15 PM
Welcome to the Lord's side.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on January 08, 2007, 09:31:31 PM
You act like I got a perm. I'm not livin' foul.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on January 08, 2007, 09:33:29 PM
You act like I got a perm. I'm not livin' foul.

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on January 09, 2007, 08:12:50 AM
r u really?

So, I'm considering getting locs...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on January 09, 2007, 08:26:09 AM
You act like I got a perm. I'm not livin' foul.

Please, you know you look like dude from "I Love New York"

(http://www.vh1.com/sitewide/promoimages/shows/i/i_love_new_york/character_111x71/tweed.jpg)



j/p (since I have no idea what you look like)  :D

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 09, 2007, 08:29:10 AM
You act like I got a perm. I'm not livin' foul.

Please, you know you look like dude from "I Love New York"

(http://www.vh1.com/sitewide/promoimages/shows/i/i_love_new_york/character_111x71/tweed.jpg)



j/p (since I have no idea what you look like)  :D



bwahhhh  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on January 09, 2007, 09:02:29 AM
r u really?

So, I'm considering getting locs...

Sure am.

You act like I got a perm. I'm not livin' foul.

Please, you know you look like dude from "I Love New York"

(http://www.vh1.com/sitewide/promoimages/shows/i/i_love_new_york/character_111x71/tweed.jpg)



j/p (since I have no idea what you look like)  :D



:( I'm much cuter than that!

You act like I got a perm. I'm not livin' foul.

Please, you know you look like dude from "I Love New York"

(http://www.vh1.com/sitewide/promoimages/shows/i/i_love_new_york/character_111x71/tweed.jpg)



j/p (since I have no idea what you look like)  :D



bwahhhh  :D :D :D :D

Don't get mad 'cause his two month-old relaxer is lookin' better than your ish fresh.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: newme165 on January 09, 2007, 11:52:11 AM
Anyone have problems getting a job because of their locs?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on January 09, 2007, 12:01:19 PM
no--I don't think hairstyle is an issue unless it is really crazy (multiple or bright colors) or you aren't in a major market. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on January 09, 2007, 12:15:54 PM
Anyone have problems getting a job because of their locs?

Not in the slightest! And I was i'viewing when they were looking their worst. I think that in major markets, most of that stuff is perpetuated by blacks more than anyone (e.g., a black partner feeling a naphead is "embarrassing the race") ::)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on January 09, 2007, 12:35:21 PM
nope

Anyone have problems getting a job because of their locs?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on January 10, 2007, 03:22:37 PM
any hair products (natural to semi-natural products, that is) for warm weather climates?  My hair looked great in NY and now it's getting "poofy"

Just go with it.  Dont try to work it stick straight, go with a more curly style.  Your hair will thank you.

Actually it is kinda curly but it's "poofy"; sorry that's the only word that can describe it
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on January 12, 2007, 07:08:05 PM
nope

Anyone have problems getting a job because of their locs?

Wow!  Beautiful hair and pic, blk_reign!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on January 12, 2007, 08:07:49 PM
nope

Anyone have problems getting a job because of their locs?

smh at the caption of your photograph :D Interesting how "professional" some people find that horsehair weave . . .
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on January 12, 2007, 08:14:14 PM
nope

Anyone have problems getting a job because of their locs?

smh at the caption of your photograph :D Interesting how "professional" some people find that horsehair weave . . .

Lol!

Well, in New York's case, "it's real Indian hair." :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on January 12, 2007, 08:40:21 PM
nope

Anyone have problems getting a job because of their locs?

smh at the caption of your photograph :D Interesting how "professional" some people find that horsehair weave . . .

Lol!

Well, in New York's case, "it's real Indian hair." :D

one of the better lines that episode.  I was dyin'
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on January 12, 2007, 08:54:12 PM
Yep. I weep for my black women that think they need to walk around with another woman's hair. Sad. I want to see an Asian walkin' around saying this is real African hair. Not. Gonna'. Happen.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on January 12, 2007, 08:55:59 PM
Yep. I weep for my black women that think they need to walk around with another woman's hair. Sad. I want to see an Asian walkin' around saying this is real African hair. Not. Gonna'. Happen.

can you imagine?  Asian woman with a fro
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on January 12, 2007, 09:48:20 PM
Yep. I weep for my black women that think they need to walk around with another woman's hair. Sad. I want to see an Asian walkin' around saying this is real African hair. Not. Gonna'. Happen.

can you imagine?  Asian woman with a fro

back in the days when Afro popularity was at its zenith, some black hair pros offered "afro perms" to white women. Ol' dude who originated it was called the "Afro King" or something like that - will look it up when i go home
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on May 05, 2007, 01:35:47 PM
What?  This is hillarious!!!

I have never worn a weave, never had a perm so I can't relate to a lot of what's associated with that.

Yes, I know that this is old, but I am late.

Yep. I weep for my black women that think they need to walk around with another woman's hair. Sad. I want to see an Asian walkin' around saying this is real African hair. Not. Gonna'. Happen.

can you imagine?  Asian woman with a fro

back in the days when Afro popularity was at its zenith, some black hair pros offered "afro perms" to white women. Ol' dude who originated it was called the "Afro King" or something like that - will look it up when i go home
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ladi on May 05, 2007, 10:38:33 PM
I love my hair. I usually texturize with a relaxer, giving me the option to wear it curly or straight.  Recently I put a jet black rinse in for the first time and which damaged it so much. So I have decided to just go natural...

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on May 06, 2007, 08:15:49 AM
I love my hair. I usually texturize with a relaxer, giving me the option to wear it curly or straight.  Recently I put a jet black rinse in for the first time and which damaged it so much. So I have decided to just go natural...

Good for you.  Let the messageboard at www.nappturality.com (http://www.nappturality.com) become your new best friend! Enjoy your journey!  :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on May 06, 2007, 01:52:59 PM
I love my hair. I usually texturize with a relaxer, giving me the option to wear it curly or straight.  Recently I put a jet black rinse in for the first time and which damaged it so much. So I have decided to just go natural...



What type of rinse did you use?  Rinses should never damage your hair, in fact that should help protect it (kinda how varnish protects wood). 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: lawschoolboundlady on May 06, 2007, 02:17:56 PM
so what about hair and treatment in the professional world? I'm black and white so my hair is really long and curly, but it's still got that big, wild, and free vibe going on lol I find myself being taken more seriously when I put my hair up and/or straighten it. What's up with that? ( maybe it's in my head.) I mean if I really came to an interview with my hair frizzin and out of control like I don't wash it or something I can understand the differential treatment.. But me just wearing what I was born with.. I feel it shouldn't matter.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on May 06, 2007, 02:43:31 PM
so what about hair and treatment in the professional world? I'm black and white so my hair is really long and curly, but it's still got that big, wild, and free vibe going on lol I find myself being taken more seriously when I put my hair up and/or straighten it. What's up with that? ( maybe it's in my head.) I mean if I really came to an interview with my hair frizzin and out of control like I don't wash it or something I can understand the differential treatment.. But me just wearing what I was born with.. I feel it shouldn't matter.

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As for the bolded part, it shouldn't.  So don't let it.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on May 06, 2007, 02:45:37 PM
I wear my hair the way I feel like.  

Most people, for that first initial interview, either put their hair up and/or straighten it.  I do.  

My hair is natural.  Most weeks, when I know I'm working, I'll straighten my hair out with a flat iron. For one, its very low maintenance that way, and also, I don't have to worry about any comments.

When I don't have time for the flat iron, I put my hair up.

It shouldn't matter.  And most of the time, it doesn't.  I get compliments on my hair whether it is straight or curly.  Its all about proper maintenance and care. And, when it does "matter,"  its probably racial discrimination, and you should say something.

With that being said, though, me and my friends typically agree--straight for the interview, after that, do what you want.  ;)

so what about hair and treatment in the professional world? I'm black and white so my hair is really long and curly, but it's still got that big, wild, and free vibe going on lol I find myself being taken more seriously when I put my hair up and/or straighten it. What's up with that? ( maybe it's in my head.) I mean if I really came to an interview with my hair frizzin and out of control like I don't wash it or something I can understand the differential treatment.. But me just wearing what I was born with.. I feel it shouldn't matter.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on May 06, 2007, 06:16:45 PM
Wow . . . i was reading back over this thread and laughing at how I had never been to the salon to get my hair done . . .
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on May 07, 2007, 06:20:24 AM
yeah that was kinda funny lol...but it worked for u for yrs so it really didn't matter at the end of the day lol

Wow . . . i was reading back over this thread and laughing at how I had never been to the salon to get my hair done . . .
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Chibundu on May 07, 2007, 08:01:05 AM
I have locs now and I just actually highlighted the tips myself. I was thinking about keeping them for law school becuase I like the maintenance of them. They are a LOT cheaper to take of than a fade. I can do them myself as evidence of this recent bleaching and I can edge up my own hairline.

I guess I am asking since I have almost made my mind up about cutting them, what is the prevalence of afro-amer men that wear locs in the legal profession and do you think it would be hard to attain significant 1L with the locs. I would like to grow them back one day, but I am not sure.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on May 07, 2007, 12:48:23 PM
I don't think you should allow them to grow past the end of your neck before you land a position if you keep them.. and I also think that it would be important for you to redye your hair to a solid color when you interview... I know a couple of 1Ls with locs that have obtained summer positions without a problem but they keep the line tapered and have the length that I mentioned above.

I have locs but I'm a woman so it's a bit different lol...

I have locs now and I just actually highlighted the tips myself. I was thinking about keeping them for law school becuase I like the maintenance of them. They are a LOT cheaper to take of than a fade. I can do them myself as evidence of this recent bleaching and I can edge up my own hairline.

I guess I am asking since I have almost made my mind up about cutting them, what is the prevalence of afro-amer men that wear locs in the legal profession and do you think it would be hard to attain significant 1L with the locs. I would like to grow them back one day, but I am not sure.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on May 07, 2007, 02:44:56 PM
Yes, but now that I have gone I am somewhat addicted . . . I never let more than 2 months go by now, even on my budget, without sitting in that chair and getting "The Works," from shampoo, straightening, style, and trim!" lol.  ;)

yeah that was kinda funny lol...but it worked for u for yrs so it really didn't matter at the end of the day lol

Wow . . . i was reading back over this thread and laughing at how I had never been to the salon to get my hair done . . .
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ladi on May 15, 2007, 07:16:42 PM
I love my hair. I usually texturize with a relaxer, giving me the option to wear it curly or straight.  Recently I put a jet black rinse in for the first time and which damaged it so much. So I have decided to just go natural...



What type of rinse did you use?  Rinses should never damage your hair, in fact that should help protect it (kinda how varnish protects wood). 

I heard the same about rinses but it was the opposite for me. A stylist did it for me in NYC back in January. My hair is just very fragile...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ladi on May 15, 2007, 07:18:17 PM
I love my hair. I usually texturize with a relaxer, giving me the option to wear it curly or straight.  Recently I put a jet black rinse in for the first time and which damaged it so much. So I have decided to just go natural...

Good for you.  Let the messageboard at www.nappturality.com (http://www.nappturality.com) become your new best friend! Enjoy your journey!  :)

Thanks, I joined awhile back and really should get more into it.  I love LongHairCareForum too...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on May 15, 2007, 07:24:02 PM
Ahh, I love nappturality! It saved my hair! ;D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on May 16, 2007, 01:37:18 PM
Ahh, I love nappturality! It saved my hair! ;D

Girl, me too!!!  ;D  I shudder to think what my hair would look like right now if Dee hadn't started what and when she did! 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Paper Chaser on May 16, 2007, 02:02:34 PM
Its official...no more braids, no more cornrows for me. I just can't see someone (a  black male) being taken seriosuly in a corporate or even federal government job with long hair. I feel like Samson when he had his hair cut, but I will get over it. You have to play the game.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on May 17, 2007, 11:20:07 AM
Its official...no more braids, no more cornrows for me. I just can't see someone (a  black male) being taken seriously in a corporate or even federal government job with long hair. I feel like Samson when he had his hair cut, but I will get over it. You have to play the game.

hold up tho-  my homeboy cut off his dreds to be in the corporate world and he hates himself for doing it now.  He feels like he "sold out".   I think it's true but sad that we gotta do what we gotta do. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on May 17, 2007, 11:23:24 AM
Paper Chaser, don't rush to do that. It might be different for guys, but I have dreads and it didn't negatively affect my firm career search at all. I will have to say that cornrows and dreads might be perceived differently - dreads might be a bit more acceptable or something.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Paper Chaser on May 17, 2007, 03:28:53 PM
Thats the thing--it is more acceptable for women. I think with guys, if we have cornrows or something peope just respond differently. I dont know the environment of federal agencies like the USDOJ or SEC, but I can only imagine that these are straight-laced, conservative places. Coming from a banking town I can pretty much attest to anything outside the normal look lis frowned upon, at least for guys, but who knows I am trying to eventually get to the Chocolate City so maybe I will grow locs like I have wanted after a couple of years of practice.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Stand under my Umbrella ella ella, aye!! on May 18, 2007, 06:39:22 AM
black men should never do anything to remind white people of their blackness.  it's pretty intimidating  ;). 

I think women get a little more leeway with this sort of thing.  From the slang used in the office, to the red/pink hair and nail extensions I've see some women wear.  It's been my experience in office environments, that black women can get away with alot more than black men in terms of presentation.  Most black men who work in offices are very well spoken, and clean cut, and presnt themselves as very "safe".  If not, they don't make it to an office.  I don't know if thats by choice or what.  But I've seen black women literally run the gamut.  That said, there are generally ALOT more black women than black men in all of the offices I've ever worked at. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on May 18, 2007, 06:42:30 AM
Yeah, I'd like someone to show me a pic of a black male partner with locks or cornrows (that is not a solo practitioner).
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on May 18, 2007, 11:27:17 AM
I'm going to get locs. But I don't know what size to get them.  ???
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on May 18, 2007, 11:52:50 AM
I'm going to get locs. But I don't know what size to get them.  ???

If you're serious, google images of "locs" and find a picture you like.  Also, check out pictures in books and in photo journals on sites like www.naani.com and www.nappturality.com.  Also, talk to a loctitian and she can recommend a size that works for your hair texture, facial shape, etc.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on May 18, 2007, 12:40:48 PM
thin... i'm going to hit u up on sidebar later...

I'm going to get locs. But I don't know what size to get them.  ???
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on May 18, 2007, 12:47:32 PM
good call with thin...bit dookie dreds aren't cute at all.

thin... i'm going to hit u up on sidebar later...

I'm going to get locs. But I don't know what size to get them.  ???
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on May 18, 2007, 01:57:07 PM
LOL  @ dookie dreds

good call with thin...bit dookie dreds aren't cute at all.

thin... i'm going to hit u up on sidebar later...

I'm going to get locs. But I don't know what size to get them.  ???
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on May 18, 2007, 05:36:10 PM
good call with thin...bit dookie dreds aren't cute at all.

thin... i'm going to hit u up on sidebar later...

I'm going to get locs. But I don't know what size to get them.  ???

I'm going to make sure mine are as tight and to the root as possible. I want them to be as neat as they can be or else -- snip snip do it all over again.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on May 18, 2007, 05:51:03 PM
good call with thin...bit dookie dreds aren't cute at all.

thin... i'm going to hit u up on sidebar later...

I'm going to get locs. But I don't know what size to get them.  ???

I'm going to make sure mine are as tight and to the root as possible. I want them to be as neat as they can be or else -- snip snip do it all over again.

yea didn't we have this convo before? it's all about neat dreds...the unkempt ones are horrible often look dirty as hell.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on May 18, 2007, 05:52:33 PM
Yeah, I'd like someone to show me a pic of a black male partner with locks or cornrows (that is not a solo practitioner).

Logical fallacy. I'm not taking the time to look for one, but even if he doesn't exist, it doesn't mean his hair would have stopped him from getting there.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on May 18, 2007, 05:54:18 PM
good call with thin...bit dookie dreds aren't cute at all.

thin... i'm going to hit u up on sidebar later...

I'm going to get locs. But I don't know what size to get them.  ???

I'm going to make sure mine are as tight and to the root as possible. I want them to be as neat as they can be or else -- snip snip do it all over again.

if you keep them twisted to the root all the time, the root beds will get thin and your locs will start breaking...watch it...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on May 18, 2007, 06:28:29 PM
good call with thin...bit dookie dreds aren't cute at all.

thin... i'm going to hit u up on sidebar later...

I'm going to get locs. But I don't know what size to get them.  ???

I'm going to make sure mine are as tight and to the root as possible. I want them to be as neat as they can be or else -- snip snip do it all over again.

if you keep them twisted to the root all the time, the root beds will get thin and your locs will start breaking...watch it...

YESUM!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on May 18, 2007, 06:29:24 PM
good call with thin...bit dookie dreds aren't cute at all.

thin... i'm going to hit u up on sidebar later...

I'm going to get locs. But I don't know what size to get them.  ???

I'm going to make sure mine are as tight and to the root as possible. I want them to be as neat as they can be or else -- snip snip do it all over again.

yea didn't we have this convo before? it's all about neat dreds...the unkempt ones are horrible often look dirty as hell.

yep; we did. When were were watchin that dude on Changing Spouses with those AfroDreds.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on May 18, 2007, 07:32:40 PM
Yeah, I'd like someone to show me a pic of a black male partner with locks or cornrows (that is not a solo practitioner).

Logical fallacy. I'm not taking the time to look for one, but even if he doesn't exist, it doesn't mean his hair would have stopped him from getting there.

A brick is not a wall.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on May 20, 2007, 12:56:02 PM
Question: Have you ever worn an afro? Yes I have and I hated it  2 (2.2%)
Yes I have and I loved it  21 (23.3%)
What do you mean have? I still rock one!!!  18 (20%)
No I haven't but I would  20 (22.2%)
You will never catch me walking around with my hair all over my head like that  29 (32.2%)
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Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on May 20, 2007, 12:56:33 PM
Question: Have you ever worn an afro? Yes I have and I hated it  2 (2.2%)
Yes I have and I loved it  21 (23.3%)
What do you mean have? I still rock one!!!  18 (20%)
No I haven't but I would  20 (22.2%)
You will never catch me walking around with my hair all over my head like that  29 (32.2%)
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Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: jillibean on May 25, 2007, 04:52:39 PM
Im thinking about dying my hair a brownish- red. I still get a relaxer about 3 times a year ( I have no real reason for it other than I get lazy around the time I get one). Is dying my hair going to make it even more moisture-craved?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Smokey on June 02, 2007, 03:36:56 AM
I just got bangs.  Long, thickish bangs.  I'm loving them!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on June 02, 2007, 12:07:17 PM
I just got bangs.  Long, thickish bangs.  I'm loving them!

I'm too much of a scaredy cat for bangs. After my 11th grade hair massacre.    :D 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on June 02, 2007, 02:55:18 PM
....After my 11th grade hair massacre.    :D 

I had one of those too, but it was tenth grade!  Asymmetrical and nightmarish in an untold number of ways.  Thank God hair grows back!!!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on June 02, 2007, 04:13:22 PM
Hear you on the 11th grade hair massacre. 

I got some very light, longish layered bangs that I can sweep off my face.  They're cool, but they were annoying when I first got them a couple weeks ago.  Now they have grown in nicely.

....After my 11th grade hair massacre.    :D 

I had one of those two, but it was tenth grade!  Asymmetrical and nightmarish in an untold number of ways.  Thank God hair grows back!!!
I just got bangs.  Long, thickish bangs.  I'm loving them!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on June 02, 2007, 04:41:15 PM
The g/f also got bangs.  I like them.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on June 02, 2007, 06:06:18 PM
and if you didn't you had better learn to.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on June 02, 2007, 07:27:24 PM
Nah she's pretty open about hair comments.  But I can't recall her doing something with it that I didn't like.  She's not the type to do hot pink highlights, blonde weave, or whatever.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on June 02, 2007, 09:25:12 PM
nor you the type to roll with such a chick
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on June 02, 2007, 09:34:56 PM
tru dat
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on June 03, 2007, 09:32:34 AM
....After my 11th grade hair massacre.    :D 

I had one of those too, but it was tenth grade!  Asymmetrical and nightmarish in an untold number of ways.  Thank God hair grows back!!!

Amen.  and LOL @ "untold number of ways"   :D

Hear you on the 11th grade hair massacre. 

I got some very light, longish layered bangs that I can sweep off my face.  They're cool, but they were annoying when I first got them a couple weeks ago.  Now they have grown in nicely.

....After my 11th grade hair massacre.    :D 

I had one of those two, but it was tenth grade!  Asymmetrical and nightmarish in an untold number of ways.  Thank God hair grows back!!!
I just got bangs.  Long, thickish bangs.  I'm loving them!

I'm still just shook to do anything to my hair-  That sounds like it's pretty tho.  It would be just my luck to get them and have them cut it so short that all it can do is to stand straight out!
 :D .. wait that's not funny.. :'( 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on June 03, 2007, 11:28:12 AM
I'm still just shook to do anything to my hair-  That sounds like it's pretty tho.  It would be just my luck to get them and have them cut it so short that all it can do is to stand straight out!
 :D .. wait that's not funny.. :'( 

Your hair looks great in your picture.  I wouldn't change it, if I were you.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on June 03, 2007, 05:52:35 PM
Ditto.

It really suits you :)

I'm still just shook to do anything to my hair-  That sounds like it's pretty tho.  It would be just my luck to get them and have them cut it so short that all it can do is to stand straight out!
 :D .. wait that's not funny.. :'( 

Your hair looks great in your picture.  I wouldn't change it, if I were you.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on June 04, 2007, 05:51:02 AM
Thanks u two are so sweet.   :-[  :)  That style takes forever tho...it's straight (wrapped) right now.   I want to do something summery tho. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on June 06, 2007, 06:53:06 PM
I want to do something summery, too.  But with studying for the bar ( I usually flat iron, but a flat iron can only go so far . . .

Thanks u two are so sweet.   :-[  :)  That style takes forever tho...it's straight (wrapped) right now.   I want to do something summery tho. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on June 07, 2007, 06:28:06 AM
I know this is nothing like what ya'll are going thru studying for the bar.  But my summer schedule has got me feeling and looking like a first semester 1L again.  I'm bandana-ed down during class.  Got different colors to match diff outfits tho!  Hair is looking toe up 3 days out of the week.  The other days pulled back into a bun for work.  Not to mention nails are looking straight boyish. 

I want to do something summery, too.  But with studying for the bar ( I usually flat iron, but a flat iron can only go so far . . .

Thanks u two are so sweet.   :-[  :)  That style takes forever tho...it's straight (wrapped) right now.   I want to do something summery tho. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on June 07, 2007, 07:53:51 AM
*whistles* locks sound like a gr8 option don't they  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on June 07, 2007, 08:51:31 AM
*whistles* locks sound like a gr8 option don't they  :D :D :D :D


 :D   yeah they do.  LOL 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: iman on June 07, 2007, 08:55:31 AM
actually its sad. i was thinking about getting a relaxer. but every morning watching my roommate flat iron or do something to her hair makes me thank God I'm natural. it usually takes her an extra 45 minutes to get ready. i just do some re-twisting, spritz on some oil and roll out.  :P
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on June 07, 2007, 08:56:32 AM
actually its sad. i was thinking about getting a relaxer. but every morning watching my roommate flat iron or do something to her hair makes me thank God I'm natural. it usually takes her an extra 45 minutes to get ready. i just do some re-twisting, spritz on some oil and roll out.  :P

 :o
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on June 07, 2007, 08:56:44 AM
45 mins?  See it doesn't take me that long ever.    
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on June 07, 2007, 08:59:20 AM
what made you consider relaxing again (assuming it was ever permmed)

i hated doing my own hair and it took SOOOOOO long...

actually its sad. i was thinking about getting a relaxer. but every morning watching my roommate flat iron or do something to her hair makes me thank God I'm natural. it usually takes her an extra 45 minutes to get ready. i just do some re-twisting, spritz on some oil and roll out.  :P
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on June 07, 2007, 09:14:54 AM
45 mins?  See it doesn't take me that long ever.    

me either.  but i roll my hair at night.  i'm thinking i'll go natural at some point in the future, but i know that ease of care won't be one of the reasons why.  my hair has a mind of its own!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on June 07, 2007, 10:38:48 AM
My hair is relaxed but I wear it naturally . . . is that something most people don't do?

But how often do you relax it and how much is it relaxed?  I know many people who get a texturiser (basically a light perm) and where their hair 'naturally'.  But imo, that isn't the same as being completely natural.  Not better or worse, just different.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: iman on June 07, 2007, 12:58:21 PM
i think i just liked all of the cute bobs that are out and was wishing that i could get one. i.e.Rihanna. but its too much work. and the fact that relaxer turns your scalp green is also a big deterrent. lol!


what made you consider relaxing again (assuming it was ever permmed)

i hated doing my own hair and it took SOOOOOO long...

actually its sad. i was thinking about getting a relaxer. but every morning watching my roommate flat iron or do something to her hair makes me thank God I'm natural. it usually takes her an extra 45 minutes to get ready. i just do some re-twisting, spritz on some oil and roll out.  :P
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on June 07, 2007, 01:07:09 PM
i think i just liked all of the cute bobs that are out and was wishing that i could get one. i.e.Rihanna. but its too much work. and the fact that relaxer turns your scalp green is also a big deterrent. lol!


what made you consider relaxing again (assuming it was ever permmed)

i hated doing my own hair and it took SOOOOOO long...

actually its sad. i was thinking about getting a relaxer. but every morning watching my roommate flat iron or do something to her hair makes me thank God I'm natural. it usually takes her an extra 45 minutes to get ready. i just do some re-twisting, spritz on some oil and roll out.  :P

Is there any actual proof of that other than random internet lore?

<--skeptic
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on June 07, 2007, 04:36:05 PM
i think i just liked all of the cute bobs that are out and was wishing that i could get one. i.e.Rihanna. but its too much work. and the fact that relaxer turns your scalp green is also a big deterrent. lol!


what made you consider relaxing again (assuming it was ever permmed)

i hated doing my own hair and it took SOOOOOO long...

actually its sad. i was thinking about getting a relaxer. but every morning watching my roommate flat iron or do something to her hair makes me thank God I'm natural. it usually takes her an extra 45 minutes to get ready. i just do some re-twisting, spritz on some oil and roll out.  :P

Is there any actual proof of that other than random internet lore?

<--skeptic

aounds like cognitive dissonance to me... ;)

But I honestly want to know.  The only time I'm ever seen it mentioned is on natural hair sites (cognitive dissonance? ;)).  There's a whole lot of nonsense circulating the internet (see pepsi discussion!) and lots of people use scare tactics.  I like making informed choices (such as the bc discussion a few weeks ago).
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on June 07, 2007, 08:57:44 PM
It takes me about an hour to blow dry and flat iron.  The more times you do it, the faster you should get.  It used to take me 2 or 2.5 hours.

When I curl my hair all over it takes 20-25 min.  45 minutes?  No.  Only to flat iron after my hair has already air dried. If I just curl the ends or flip them, this normally takes about 5-7 minutes. That's it.

Whether natural or straight, it generally takes me about the same amount of time to do my hair.  If anything, it takes me a little longer when its natural because of the thickness.  It can take me 15-20 miutes just to get a decent ponytail with my natural hair.  If its flatironed? 1 min. :)

At the end of the day I don't think the issue is time as much as it is preference.  You can make straight and/or natural hair work within your time constraints.

45 mins?  See it doesn't take me that long ever.    
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on June 09, 2007, 03:36:06 PM
The way I'm looking right now...I should shave it all off!  My avatar pic...lol...looking far from it!!!   :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on June 09, 2007, 03:51:40 PM
...and the fact that relaxer turns your scalp green is also a big deterrent. lol!

I don't know about this per se, but I do think that there is not enough information given to (or more importantly, requested by) black women when it comes to knowing what relaxers are all about.  I know my choice to use one was not really an informed one.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on June 09, 2007, 10:20:53 PM
Though I don't have a relaxer myself, practically everyone else I know has them.  My mom used to have one, but she has been natural for probably about 7 or 8 years.

My grandmother had my mom's hair relaxed at a young age.  I think this is part of the problem.  Once you get a relaxer, you have to keep getting them.  And if you are getting them while you are still in elementary school, because mothers want an "easier time" combing hair, you don't really have a choice in determining what is healthy for your hair.

My beautician has a daughter who wants a perm.  But she won't give her one.  She's like 8 or 9. She gets her hair flatironed, and you can't really tell the difference. But kids get teased when they don't have a perm--trust me, I was one of them.  And the kids wear the parents down sometimes and bam!  You have a head full of unhealthy hair.  Or. worse yet, the kid goes to another family members house and bam! comes back with a perm.

People do not make informed decisions about this, definitely not.  People want (1) what everyone else has, or (2) what's easy.  Perms seem to be "Easy" for many people, therefore, they get them. Either that, or its just all they know because they got one at such an early age that they don't know anything else.  :-\






...and the fact that relaxer turns your scalp green is also a big deterrent. lol!

I don't know about this per se, but I do think that there is not enough information given to (or more importantly, requested by) black women when it comes to knowing what relaxers are all about.  I know my choice to use one was not really an informed one.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on June 10, 2007, 04:38:52 AM
Wow!  I find it interesting that the banner ad at the top of this page is for beautiful cornrows at www.braidsbybreslin.com.  I like the photos!  This is the first time I've noticed an ad banner on this page in the first place, let alone that they could be targeted to the contents of the thread.  Has anyone else noticed this? 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on June 10, 2007, 06:11:49 AM
Although I use an ad blocker, when I turn it off to look at images and forget to turn it back on, I notice that most of the ads are targeted.  I'm always annoyed to see the bouncing hip-hop character on the main page (he was there last year anyway).
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on June 10, 2007, 01:07:24 PM
I'm always annoyed to see the bouncing hip-hop character on the main page (he was there last year anyway).

Lol.  I've never seen that one, but I'm sure it would annoy me, too!   :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on June 10, 2007, 01:10:17 PM
Though I don't have a relaxer myself, practically everyone else I know has them.  My mom used to have one, but she has been natural for probably about 7 or 8 years.

My grandmother had my mom's hair relaxed at a young age.  I think this is part of the problem.  Once you get a relaxer, you have to keep getting them.  And if you are getting them while you are still in elementary school, because mothers want an "easier time" combing hair, you don't really have a choice in determining what is healthy for your hair.

My beautician has a daughter who wants a perm.  But she won't give her one.  She's like 8 or 9. She gets her hair flatironed, and you can't really tell the difference. But kids get teased when they don't have a perm--trust me, I was one of them.  And the kids wear the parents down sometimes and bam!  You have a head full of unhealthy hair.  Or. worse yet, the kid goes to another family members house and bam! comes back with a perm.

People do not make informed decisions about this, definitely not.  People want (1) what everyone else has, or (2) what's easy.  Perms seem to be "Easy" for many people, therefore, they get them. Either that, or its just all they know because they got one at such an early age that they don't know anything else.  :-\






...and the fact that relaxer turns your scalp green is also a big deterrent. lol!

I don't know about this per se, but I do think that there is not enough information given to (or more importantly, requested by) black women when it comes to knowing what relaxers are all about.  I know my choice to use one was not really an informed one.

I agree.  It's saddening to see lil girls the ages of 5 and 6 getting relaxers.  My mom didn't let me get one til I was 13.

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on June 10, 2007, 01:14:04 PM
...and the fact that relaxer turns your scalp green is also a big deterrent. lol!

I don't know about this per se, but I do think that there is not enough information given to (or more importantly, requested by) black women when it comes to knowing what relaxers are all about.  I know my choice to use one was not really an informed one.

I agree.  It's saddening to see lil girls the ages of 5 and 6 getting relaxers.  My mom didn't let me get one til I was 13.

Shame to death!  I saw a girl as young as 3 with practically all her hair burned off her head and what little bit there was left sticking out in spikes that the mother attempted to put little barrettes on.  I was heartbroken...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on June 10, 2007, 01:18:31 PM
...and the fact that relaxer turns your scalp green is also a big deterrent. lol!

I don't know about this per se, but I do think that there is not enough information given to (or more importantly, requested by) black women when it comes to knowing what relaxers are all about.  I know my choice to use one was not really an informed one.

I agree.  It's saddening to see lil girls the ages of 5 and 6 getting relaxers.  My mom didn't let me get one til I was 13.

Shame to death!  I saw a girl as young as 3 with practically all her hair burned off her head and what little bit there was left sticking out in spikes that the mother attempted to put little barrettes on.  I was heartbroken...

yup...pure laziness.

even my cousin gave her daugher a relaxer at like 8 or 9...kids that age don't know how to take care of their hair.  her hair used to be nice and thick, now it's all scraggly.  my mom was so against it, but oh well.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on June 10, 2007, 01:39:46 PM
give me a Jheri at age 7

 :D

ETA: That possibly wasn't supposed to be funny, but the thought of a 7-y.o. with a Jheri curl is hilarious
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on June 10, 2007, 01:50:59 PM
I know right. Picture a 2nd grader walkin down the hall with a bottle of activator. LOL... and a towel.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on June 10, 2007, 01:53:45 PM
just let your SOUL GLO oh so silky smooth
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on June 10, 2007, 02:13:29 PM
keep in mind that this was 1988, when Countess Vaughn was on 227 and Star Search rocking a curl. My family was obsessed with her and wanted me to be like her or something. It was very strange.

that is strange considering where she is now with her new booty  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on June 10, 2007, 02:19:10 PM
 :D :D :D :D

keep in mind that this was 1988, when Countess Vaughn was on 227 and Star Search rocking a curl. My family was obsessed with her and wanted me to be like her or something. It was very strange.

that is strange considering where she is now with her new booty  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on June 10, 2007, 03:13:28 PM
keep in mind that this was 1988, when Countess Vaughn was on 227 and Star Search rocking a curl. My family was obsessed with her and wanted me to be like her or something. It was very strange.
that is strange considering where she is now with her new booty  :D
I must be out of the loop.  Where is she now?   ???


I know right. Picture a 2nd grader walkin down the hall with a bottle of activator. LOL... and a towel.

Actually, this was me....in fourth grade!   :D  Actually, on second thought....  :-\  .....  :'(  Once my mom got tired of the Vigerols (...did any of you ladies used to get those hot-oil like treatments?...), she had my aunt put in a jheri curl.  Then, she got one.  Then, my sister got one.  We were all one hot mess if I do say so myself.  (I'm not even going to mention how one of my aunts still has hers...ahem, I digress...)  Anywho, I never took my bottle to school, but one time my sister (who was in second grade at the time) was sitting on the couch next to me with her bottle.   She started squirt, squirt, squirting that mess everywhere and she accidentally shot a jetstream of that who-knows-what straight into my right eye.  It burned like crazy, and I thought my eye would never recover!  :P
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on June 10, 2007, 03:20:48 PM
lmao.  thanks naturally
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on June 10, 2007, 03:22:04 PM
lmao.  thanks naturally

Glad I could be of service!   :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on June 10, 2007, 03:33:27 PM


Actually, this was me....in fourth grade!   :D  Actually, on second thought....  :-\  .....  :'(  Once my mom got tired of the Vigerols (...did any of you ladies used to get those hot-oil like treatments?...), she had my aunt put in a jheri curl.  Then, she got one.  Then, my sister got one.  We were all one hot mess if I do say so myself.  (I'm not even going to mention how one of my aunts still has hers...ahem, I digress...)  Anywho, I never took my bottle to school, but one time my sister (who was in second grade at the time) was sitting on the couch next to me with her bottle.   She started squirt, squirt, squirting that mess everywhere and she accidentally shot a jetstream of that who-knows-what straight into my right eye.  It burned like crazy, and I thought my eye would never recover!  :P

ha ha I was just talking to blk and telling her that both of my aunts still have theres (they live in the south tho)  :D :D  HAM
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on June 10, 2007, 03:41:59 PM


Actually, this was me....in fourth grade!   :D  Actually, on second thought....  :-\  .....  :'(  Once my mom got tired of the Vigerols (...did any of you ladies used to get those hot-oil like treatments?...), she had my aunt put in a jheri curl.  Then, she got one.  Then, my sister got one.  We were all one hot mess if I do say so myself.  (I'm not even going to mention how one of my aunts still has hers...ahem, I digress...)  Anywho, I never took my bottle to school, but one time my sister (who was in second grade at the time) was sitting on the couch next to me with her bottle.   She started squirt, squirt, squirting that mess everywhere and she accidentally shot a jetstream of that who-knows-what straight into my right eye.  It burned like crazy, and I thought my eye would never recover!  :P


ha ha I was just talking to blk and telling her that both of my aunts still have theres (they live in the south tho)  :D :D  HAM

lol even in the South, that Jheri is no longer acceptable!!!

Lol.  Well, some folks missed the memo. 

Another thing I still can't get over though is how one of my aunts kept dating this man with a jheri curl.  I'm not sure it was ever okay for a man to have one, but when you are still rocking it in the late 90's and into the next millenium, it's really time to re-consider. That and the gold tooth shining in the front....just too much!  Ok, let me stop putting my peeps on blast on the internet.   :D  My family -- gotta love them. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on June 10, 2007, 04:23:45 PM
Another thing I still can't get over though is how one of my aunts kept dating this man with a jheri curl.  I'm not sure it was ever okay for a man to have one, but when you are still rocking it in the late 90's and into the next millenium, it's really time to re-consider.

lmao...there's a deacon at my church at home that still wears one.  A big afro-looking one too.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on June 10, 2007, 04:54:23 PM


Actually, this was me....in fourth grade!   :D  Actually, on second thought....  :-\  .....  :'(  Once my mom got tired of the Vigerols (...did any of you ladies used to get those hot-oil like treatments?...), she had my aunt put in a jheri curl.  Then, she got one.  Then, my sister got one.  We were all one hot mess if I do say so myself.  (I'm not even going to mention how one of my aunts still has hers...ahem, I digress...)  Anywho, I never took my bottle to school, but one time my sister (who was in second grade at the time) was sitting on the couch next to me with her bottle.   She started squirt, squirt, squirting that mess everywhere and she accidentally shot a jetstream of that who-knows-what straight into my right eye.  It burned like crazy, and I thought my eye would never recover!  :P


ha ha I was just talking to blk and telling her that both of my aunts still have theres (they live in the south tho)  :D :D  HAM

lol even in the South, that Jheri is no longer acceptable!!!

Lol.  Well, some folks missed the memo. 

Another thing I still can't get over though is how one of my aunts kept dating this man with a jheri curl.  I'm not sure it was ever okay for a man to have one, but when you are still rocking it in the late 90's and into the next millenium, it's really time to re-consider. That and the gold tooth shining in the front....just too much!  Ok, let me stop putting my peeps on blast on the internet.   :D  My family -- gotta love them. 

Times is rough; times is rough.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on June 10, 2007, 05:15:55 PM
Another thing I still can't get over though is how one of my aunts kept dating this man with a jheri curl.  I'm not sure it was ever okay for a man to have one, but when you are still rocking it in the late 90's and into the next millenium, it's really time to re-consider.

lmao...there's a deacon at my church at home that still wears one.  A big afro-looking one too.

Stop the madness!   :D   I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how you have a hybrid of a jheri and an afro, let alone what stylist is helping you keep up that look nowadays!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on June 10, 2007, 05:19:07 PM
Another thing I still can't get over though is how one of my aunts kept dating this man with a jheri curl.  I'm not sure it was ever okay for a man to have one, but when you are still rocking it in the late 90's and into the next millenium, it's really time to re-consider.

lmao...there's a deacon at my church at home that still wears one.  A big afro-looking one too.

Stop the madness!   :D   I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how you have a hybrid of a jheri and an afro, let alone what stylist is helping you keep up that look nowadays!

lmao, get this: his wife...his wife gives it to him.  Lol I guess love blinds.  She, on the other hand, has very pretty hair.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on June 10, 2007, 05:30:02 PM
this is a shame. those nukkas need an intervention.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on June 10, 2007, 06:45:55 PM
Another thing I still can't get over though is how one of my aunts kept dating this man with a jheri curl.  I'm not sure it was ever okay for a man to have one, but when you are still rocking it in the late 90's and into the next millenium, it's really time to re-consider.

lmao...there's a deacon at my church at home that still wears one.  A big afro-looking one too.

Stop the madness!   :D   I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how you have a hybrid of a jheri and an afro, let alone what stylist is helping you keep up that look nowadays!

lmao, get this: his wife...his wife gives it to him.

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  Oh my.....  Now if he knows he didn't look like that when he met her, he ought to start asking some serious questions!  Lol.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on June 10, 2007, 07:32:57 PM
Rof.

Jherri Curl and Afroish in the same sentence?

AND his wife does it!

Oh, Lord.  The things we do for love.

However, I would have to say that if my husband asked me to do a Jheri Curl for him, I would have to rethink that whole "in sickness and in health" thing, and get him checked out!!!   :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Smokey on June 13, 2007, 04:10:09 AM
This is really out of nowhere, but...


what do you guys think of the curly Afro weave, a la Beyonce in the Work it Out video?  I saw this video recently and was thinking that her 'do looks hot:

http://thumbnail.search.aolcdn.com/onstream/00016000/00016978/sckf/0000000000/0000021870.jpg

http://www.john-legend.net/COB%20ver1/videos/19.png

http://www.cgm.pl/images/media/beyonce_work_it_out16h.jpg

http://www.mtv.com/shared/promoimages/bands/b/beyonce/work_it_out/70x53.jpg

http://trouble.philadelphiaweekly.com/archives/beyonce1.jpg


I'm not a lawyer yet so I guess I have some room to experiment, but what would people say if you rolled up in the law firm with your hair like this?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on June 13, 2007, 08:31:17 AM
I like it a lot - that's sorta what my hair is going for (but obviously not as well).

your hair is cool. :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on June 13, 2007, 08:39:24 AM
nah.. roll as is. Do you do anything to it?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on June 13, 2007, 09:00:33 AM
I like it a lot - that's sorta what my hair is going for (but obviously not as well).

I don't like it.  It's the fake-looking version of your hair.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on June 13, 2007, 09:06:02 AM
I like it a lot - that's sorta what my hair is going for (but obviously not as well).

I don't like it.  It's the fake-looking version of your hair.

So you're saying you hate her hair too?  >:(
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on June 13, 2007, 09:15:12 AM
I like it a lot - that's sorta what my hair is going for (but obviously not as well).

I don't like it.  It's the fake-looking version of your hair.

So you're saying you hate her hair too?  >:(

No I like her hair.  I don't like the fake version of it.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on June 13, 2007, 09:16:13 AM
damn.. i tried to start somethin... maybe next time
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on June 13, 2007, 09:34:21 AM
lol u're an ass


damn.. i tried to start somethin... maybe next time
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on June 13, 2007, 10:36:00 AM
I like it a lot - that's sorta what my hair is going for (but obviously not as well).

I don't like it.  It's the fake-looking version of your hair.

So you're saying you hate her hair too?  >:(

No I like her hair.  I don't like the fake version of it.

But will my hair work long(er), is what I'm wondering.

I think it would.  Supposedly length is better for curly hair.  Just make sure you get regular cuts as it grows so that it doesn't grow into a weird shape.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on June 13, 2007, 10:46:24 AM
how long is it now?

I think it would.  Supposedly length is better for curly hair.  Just make sure you get regular cuts as it grows so that it doesn't grow into a weird shape.

You mean that I'm supposed to get my hair cut more often then every two years? 

Well, damn.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on June 13, 2007, 10:57:07 AM
I think it would.  Supposedly length is better for curly hair.  Just make sure you get regular cuts as it grows so that it doesn't grow into a weird shape.

You mean that I'm supposed to get my hair cut more often then every two years? 

Well, damn.

Eh, as long as its growing in a relatively even shape and you don't have split ends, then I don't suppose it matters too much.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Smokey on June 13, 2007, 12:55:57 PM
I like it a lot - that's sorta what my hair is going for (but obviously not as well).

Wow your hair's like that naturally?  Lucky you... I don't think my hair is thick/full/curly/long enough to look like that, so weave it would be.

You say that you don't do anything to your hair except relax it... how do you get it curly once they straighten it?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on June 13, 2007, 03:15:17 PM
I like it a lot - that's sorta what my hair is going for (but obviously not as well).

Wow your hair's like that naturally?  Lucky you... I don't think my hair is thick/full/curly/long enough to look like that, so weave it would be.

You say that you don't do anything to your hair except relax it... how do you get it curly once they straighten it?

I let it airdry.  My hair as an @ssload of natural curl.  There are pics on FB, if you use that utility.

See if I let my hair airdry, it would just be a straightish but mostly frizzy mess.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: jillibean on June 13, 2007, 03:54:48 PM
My hair is super curly too- and since I live in FL the humidity adds to everything that is wrong with my hair. Have you ever used frizz-ease on your wet hair after to wash it. I use it, then air dry and it tames the frizz. I also use virgin olive oil (yes, the stuff in your kitchen) so that may be a factor also
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on June 13, 2007, 05:09:03 PM
My hair is super curly too- and since I live in FL the humidity adds to everything that is wrong with my hair. Have you ever used frizz-ease on your wet hair after to wash it. I use it, then air dry and it tames the frizz. I also use virgin olive oil (yes, the stuff in your kitchen) so that may be a factor also

I did, but it never worked particularly well for me.  Now I just stick to Biolage.  What exactly do you do with the EVOO?

I use it as a hot oil treatment.  I comb the hot evoo through, pull my hair back and leave it in for a few hours before washing it.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: jillibean on June 13, 2007, 05:11:40 PM
My hair is super curly too- and since I live in FL the humidity adds to everything that is wrong with my hair. Have you ever used frizz-ease on your wet hair after to wash it. I use it, then air dry and it tames the frizz. I also use virgin olive oil (yes, the stuff in your kitchen) so that may be a factor also

I did, but it never worked particularly well for me.  Now I just stick to Biolage.  What exactly do you do with the EVOO?

I just put it on right after the frizz-ease. My grandmother has been putting it on my hair for years so its just habit. I don't know if it actually does anything beneficial but it makes my hair super soft.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on June 13, 2007, 05:17:53 PM
My hair is super curly too- and since I live in FL the humidity adds to everything that is wrong with my hair. Have you ever used frizz-ease on your wet hair after to wash it. I use it, then air dry and it tames the frizz. I also use virgin olive oil (yes, the stuff in your kitchen) so that may be a factor also

I did, but it never worked particularly well for me.  Now I just stick to Biolage.  What exactly do you do with the EVOO?

I use it as a hot oil treatment.  I comb the hot evoo through, pull my hair back and leave it in for a few hours before washing it.

Oh.  I can't comb my hair before I wash it, so nix that plan. :)

You don't really need to comb it.  Just pour it on (I like using a spoon so that I don't accidentally dump the whole bowl on my head) and work it through with your fingers.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on June 14, 2007, 07:25:03 AM
yeah I was about to tell you that you don't need to comb it.. I've tried the EVOO treatment as well and I haven't had a comb in my head for five yrs now  :o damn that's a long time lol..


Ok, I'm gonna try that as soon as I get a microwave.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Paper Chaser on June 29, 2007, 01:28:59 AM
Has anyone ever heard of people actually ironing their hair?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on June 29, 2007, 05:43:16 AM
Has anyone ever heard of people actually ironing their hair?

People used to do it back in the 70s, before there were proper flat irons.  I should hope that nobody is doing it nowadays.  At best, it wouldn't do that good a job because you can't get that close to the roots.  At worst, it can be horribly damaging.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Smokey on June 29, 2007, 07:46:35 AM
Has anyone ever heard of people actually ironing their hair?

I've heard of Caucasian people doing this, but never black people.  I'm thinking it'd be a lot easier on hair that is long and relatively straight already.  Pretty impossible if your hair is short and/or really kinky.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on July 01, 2007, 02:40:35 PM
Has anyone ever heard of people actually ironing their hair?

I've only seen that in the movie Hairspray. I have never known anyone personally who did this.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on July 01, 2007, 02:49:23 PM
Has anyone ever heard of people actually ironing their hair?

I've only seen that in the movie Hairspray. I have never known anyone personally who did this.

ahhh i loved that movie, it's one of my favs...i hope the remake is good.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on July 01, 2007, 02:54:32 PM
Has anyone ever heard of people actually ironing their hair?

I've only seen that in the movie Hairspray. I have never known anyone personally who did this.

ahhh i loved that movie, it's one of my favs...i hope the remake is good.

I hope so, too!  I don't want to be disappointed and think they should have left well enough alone.   :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: jillibean on July 03, 2007, 05:09:42 PM
Has anyone ever heard of or used the Edgestick. It's supposed to be a flat iron just for your edges but I cant find it anywhere
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 03, 2007, 06:43:58 PM
http://bbdex.bizland.com/store/page3.html


Maybe they're only selling it online.  Do you have a Sally Beauty Supply near you? If its not at Sally's I don't know what to say . . .
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on July 04, 2007, 07:39:07 AM
Has anyone ever heard of or used the Edgestick. It's supposed to be a flat iron just for your edges but I cant find it anywhere

ooh.  never heard of it but cool.  Sallys has everything
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on July 04, 2007, 12:37:30 PM
Can't wait to dye my hair. Hopefully early next week!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on July 04, 2007, 12:39:01 PM
dye to what?  from what?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on July 04, 2007, 12:44:53 PM
dye to what?  from what?

Oh - from very dark brown/natural black to jet black :P nothing drastic!

oh ok.  just making sure.  'cause i saw this chick and she had the red, blonde, and brown thing going.  Oh and it was koolaid red.  I wanted to trip her!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 05, 2007, 10:42:01 AM
do u really think that Monica would do something crazy like that? 

are you planning on dyeing it yourself? I've done it a few times black and a couple of shades of brown(not at the same time & depending on the season) and loved it..

dye to what?  from what?

Oh - from very dark brown/natural black to jet black :P nothing drastic!

oh ok.  just making sure.  'cause i saw this chick and she had the red, blonde, and brown thing going.  Oh and it was koolaid red.  I wanted to trip her!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 05, 2007, 10:43:21 AM
do u really think that Monica would do something crazy like that? 

Well she did say that she likes those hot pink highlights...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 05, 2007, 10:50:58 AM
dye to what?  from what?

Oh - from very dark brown/natural black to jet black :P nothing drastic!

oh ok.  just making sure.  'cause i saw this chick and she had the red, blonde, and brown thing going.  Oh and it was koolaid red.  I wanted to trip her!

Trip her for what?  ??? Pls, do explain
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 05, 2007, 11:07:02 AM
yay gem u're back..i'm glad u're back!!! how are u?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 05, 2007, 11:15:13 AM
Hey Blk! I'm good...bored @ work (obviously).  I see the move is not going so smoothly  :( Dial up?? Hang in there...it'll be something you can laugh about later (maybe?...eh, probably not, but keep ya head up nonetheless,  ;)).

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 05, 2007, 11:34:18 AM
I'll laugh after I get my things.. I'll definitely feel a bit better tomorrow after the living room set comes...

are u ready for school in the fall?

Hey Blk! I'm good...bored @ work (obviously).  I see the move is not going so smoothly  :( Dial up?? Hang in there...it'll be something you can laugh about later (maybe?...eh, probably not, but keep ya head up nonetheless,  ;)).


Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 05, 2007, 11:46:02 AM
Does it matter at this point?  :-\

In a few weeks, to a much lesser degree, I'll be in your same situation. We are relocating to suite my convenience and downsize on some expenses.  I won't feel ready until I am settled into the new spot with everything around me organized and in place.

Are you ready for your new underaking?  :)

I'll laugh after I get my things.. I'll definitely feel a bit better tomorrow after the living room set comes...

are u ready for school in the fall?


Hey Blk! I'm good...bored @ work (obviously).  I see the move is not going so smoothly  :( Dial up?? Hang in there...it'll be something you can laugh about later (maybe?...eh, probably not, but keep ya head up nonetheless,  ;)).


Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 05, 2007, 11:47:41 AM
do u really think that Monica would do something crazy like that? 

are you planning on dyeing it yourself? I've done it a few times black and a couple of shades of brown(not at the same time & depending on the season) and loved it..

dye to what?  from what?

Oh - from very dark brown/natural black to jet black :P nothing drastic!

oh ok.  just making sure.  'cause i saw this chick and she had the red, blonde, and brown thing going.  Oh and it was koolaid red.  I wanted to trip her!

lol - true - no hot pink for me, though for others it's whatever works for them!

I'm going to dye it myself. I've highlighted it myself before when I had the fire cream and it worked just fine!

You kill me with that phrase (and the "creamy crack")...  I've started callin it that IRL.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on July 05, 2007, 02:20:11 PM
 :D  Yeah, they use those terms on nappturality.com quite a bit, too!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 05, 2007, 02:28:48 PM
Is having natural hair a significant part of your identity?  I ask because of your moniker and patronage of nappturality.com.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on July 05, 2007, 05:39:05 PM
Is having natural hair a significant part of your identity?  I ask because of your moniker and patronage of nappturality.com.

Nappturality.com was a **huge** help to me when I decided to stop perming my hair 7 or 8 years ago.  Because I had absolutely no support from family and friends with my decision, the discussion board on that site was invaluable in terms of the support, affirmation, advice, etc.  Without Dee and the thousands of women she provided a forum for, I probably would not have stuck out my decision for the long haul. I used to frequent np.com pretty regularly, especially as a college student. Post-graduation, getting a real world job cut my participation down to nil.  Plus, I began to figure out what worked for my hair, found a stylist, etc. etc.  I began to refer other people interested in stopping perming to the site, without really using it as much myself anymore.  I had pretty much sworn off online discussion boards when the whole LS experience made this site my new online distraction.  :D 

To the points you raised, I do think choosing to wear my hair the way I do is a part of my identity, though it is no more or less so than some other aspects that I also consider to be quite important.  A lot of my online/email handles will feature some aspect of the word "natural" not because I'm on some nappy/natural crusade, but rather because I tend to reduce, reuse, and recycle the same basic name over and over again!  That said, as a nappturality veteran who was around when the site was in its infancy, I definitely know that people using the terms "creamy crack" and "fire cream" have spent some time on np.com.  hth  :)


:D  Yeah, they use those terms on nappturality.com quite a bit, too!

oh yeah i totally stole them from there

Thought so!  lol   :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 05, 2007, 06:19:54 PM
Is having natural hair a significant part of your identity?  I ask because of your moniker and patronage of nappturality.com.

Nappturality.com was a **huge** help to me when I decided to stop perming my hair 7 or 8 years ago.  Because I had absolutely no support from family and friends with my decision, the discussion board on that site was invaluable in terms of the support, affirmation, advice, etc.  Without Dee and the thousands of women she provided a forum for, I probably would not have stuck out my decision for the long haul. I used to frequent np.com pretty regularly, especially as a college student. Post-graduation, getting a real world job cut my participation down to nil.  Plus, I began to figure out what worked for my hair, found a stylist, etc. etc.  I began to refer other people interested in stopping perming to the site, without really using it as much myself anymore.  I had pretty much sworn off online discussion boards when the whole LS experience made this site my new online distraction.  :D 

To the points you raised, I do think choosing to wear my hair the way I do is a part of my identity, though it is no more or less so than some other aspects that I also consider to be quite important.  A lot of my online/email handles will feature some aspect of the word "natural" not because I'm on some nappy/natural crusade, but rather because I tend to reduce, reuse, and recycle the same basic name over and over again!  That said, as a nappturality veteran who was around when the site was in its infancy, I definitely know that people using the terms "creamy crack" and "fire cream" have spent some time on np.com.  hth  :)

Cool :).  Just wondered if it was a transformative experience for you.  Sounds like it was and that you emerged successfully.  Too bad there isn't more support in our community (esp. in the South) for a diversity of hairstyles.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 09, 2007, 11:46:46 AM
So I'm supposed to be doing an updo for my cousins wedding (blah).  My hair is layered, just past shoulder at the longest to layers just past my ears in the front, and tends to be somewhat thin.  Any suggestions for updos that aren't the traditional bridal gigantic bun thing?  Pics would be even better.  Thanks!!!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 09, 2007, 12:08:04 PM
So I'm supposed to be doing an updo for my cousins wedding (blah).  My hair is layered, just past shoulder at the longest to layers just past my ears in the front, and tends to be somewhat thin.  Any suggestions for updos that aren't the traditional bridal gigantic bun thing?  Pics would be even better.  Thanks!!!

Don't you just love requirements for bridesmaids....what to wear, how to walk, what color make-up, accesories, nail polish etc.  I had to go through that mess 4 times in one summer.  Only one bride had the updo requirement which led to a few ppl getting 2 or 3 tracks put in.

From the way you describe your cut it, I would recommend asking her to make an exception on this one. Perhaps set it on smaller sized rollers and wear a skinny headband, (i.e., third one down on this page http://www.glamforless.com/headbands.htm (http://www.glamforless.com/headbands.htm)).  It would still give a formal look. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 09, 2007, 02:53:47 PM
No suggestions, unfortunately.  But it doesn't seem like you would have a lot of options.  I would talk to her and see what she suggests herself since she imposed the requirement.

I can say that, because I've been through it.  I didn't impose anything on my bridesmaids that was unreasonable.

So I'm supposed to be doing an updo for my cousins wedding (blah).  My hair is layered, just past shoulder at the longest to layers just past my ears in the front, and tends to be somewhat thin.  Any suggestions for updos that aren't the traditional bridal gigantic bun thing?  Pics would be even better.  Thanks!!!

Don't you just love requirements for bridesmaids....what to wear, how to walk, what color make-up, accesories, nail polish etc.  I had to go through that mess 4 times in one summer.  Only one bride had the updo requirement which led to a few ppl getting 2 or 3 tracks put in.

From the way you describe your cut it, I would recommend asking her to make an exception on this one. Perhaps set it on smaller sized rollers and wear a skinny headband, (i.e., third one down on this page http://www.glamforless.com/headbands.htm (http://www.glamforless.com/headbands.htm)).  It would still give a formal look. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: law_dawg_07 on July 10, 2007, 05:51:52 AM
My hair is natural and I get it flat ironed about once every 3 weeks.  My hair has grown significantly over the last year and while it has great length, it is not as full as it used to be (you know, the closer you get to the ends it thins out).  Any suggestions for thickening the hair ends???
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 10, 2007, 06:13:51 AM
My hair is natural and I get it flat ironed about once every 3 weeks.  My hair has grown significantly over the last year and while it has great length, it is not as full as it used to be (you know, the closer you get to the ends it thins out).  Any suggestions for thickening the hair ends???

There really isn't much you can do.  Regular flat ironing can cause permanent damage to the hair.  If you want thicker ends the only answer is to cut it!  :(
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 10, 2007, 07:00:05 AM
My hair is natural and I get it flat ironed about once every 3 weeks.  My hair has grown significantly over the last year and while it has great length, it is not as full as it used to be (you know, the closer you get to the ends it thins out).  Any suggestions for thickening the hair ends???

Do you trim regularly?  As Cahow said, you may have to sacrifice some length to get the fullness back.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on July 10, 2007, 07:12:58 AM
cosign- trim
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: law_dawg_07 on July 10, 2007, 07:25:32 AM
Trim about once every month and a half...or every other time I go see her.

My hair is natural and I get it flat ironed about once every 3 weeks.  My hair has grown significantly over the last year and while it has great length, it is not as full as it used to be (you know, the closer you get to the ends it thins out).  Any suggestions for thickening the hair ends???

Do you trim regularly?  As Cahow said, you may have to sacrifice some length to get the fullness back.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 10, 2007, 07:28:30 AM
you gon' be bald headed.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 10, 2007, 07:29:56 AM
Trim about once every month and a half...or every other time I go see her.

My hair is natural and I get it flat ironed about once every 3 weeks.  My hair has grown significantly over the last year and while it has great length, it is not as full as it used to be (you know, the closer you get to the ends it thins out).  Any suggestions for thickening the hair ends???

Do you trim regularly?  As Cahow said, you may have to sacrifice some length to get the fullness back.

In that case, your hair probably just doesn't like being flat ironed that often.  You may just have to consider whether straight hair every so often is worth thin ends.  :-\  What type of heat protectant do you use?  How about moisture/protein treatments?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: law_dawg_07 on July 10, 2007, 07:34:36 AM
See that the issue. I am a slave to my hair dresser and I dont do anything besides what she does it for me. I cannot handle my own hair other than brushing it down in the morning...


Trim about once every month and a half...or every other time I go see her.

My hair is natural and I get it flat ironed about once every 3 weeks.  My hair has grown significantly over the last year and while it has great length, it is not as full as it used to be (you know, the closer you get to the ends it thins out).  Any suggestions for thickening the hair ends???

Do you trim regularly?  As Cahow said, you may have to sacrifice some length to get the fullness back.

In that case, your hair probably just doesn't like being flat ironed that often.  You may just have to consider whether straight hair every so often is worth thin ends.  :-\  What type of heat protectant do you use?  How about moisture/protein treatments?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 10, 2007, 07:35:32 AM
india arie at the grammys
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: law_dawg_07 on July 10, 2007, 07:36:39 AM
this is a hair thread...not brag about your woman thread.

india arie at the grammys
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 10, 2007, 07:57:25 AM
See that the issue. I am a slave to my hair dresser and I dont do anything besides what she does it for me. I cannot handle my own hair other than brushing it down in the morning...


Trim about once every month and a half...or every other time I go see her.

My hair is natural and I get it flat ironed about once every 3 weeks.  My hair has grown significantly over the last year and while it has great length, it is not as full as it used to be (you know, the closer you get to the ends it thins out).  Any suggestions for thickening the hair ends???

Do you trim regularly?  As Cahow said, you may have to sacrifice some length to get the fullness back.

In that case, your hair probably just doesn't like being flat ironed that often.  You may just have to consider whether straight hair every so often is worth thin ends.  :-\  What type of heat protectant do you use?  How about moisture/protein treatments?

Does she do natural stuff? Maybe find someone who is good at stuff like 2 strand twists, which are fairly low maintenance but are a lot better for your hair.  Or sit down with her and tell her your concerns and see what she says.  Just because you like the way she does your hair doesn't mean that it's good for your hair or that she even knows what's good for your hair.  Some hairdressers are woefully undertrained when it comes to dealing with natural hair or keeping any hair healthy!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 10, 2007, 07:59:14 AM
u've just stated one of the reasons that i locked my hair.. i was capable of doing it myself.. but it was a task that i didn't feel like dealing with

See that the issue. I am a slave to my hair dresser and I dont do anything besides what she does it for me. I cannot handle my own hair other than brushing it down in the morning...


Trim about once every month and a half...or every other time I go see her.

My hair is natural and I get it flat ironed about once every 3 weeks.  My hair has grown significantly over the last year and while it has great length, it is not as full as it used to be (you know, the closer you get to the ends it thins out).  Any suggestions for thickening the hair ends???

Do you trim regularly?  As Cahow said, you may have to sacrifice some length to get the fullness back.

In that case, your hair probably just doesn't like being flat ironed that often.  You may just have to consider whether straight hair every so often is worth thin ends.  :-\  What type of heat protectant do you use?  How about moisture/protein treatments?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: law_dawg_07 on July 10, 2007, 08:00:53 AM
She claims she specializes in natural hair but really the only natural thing I see going on is the not perming and spraying some olive oil sheen.  Dont get me wrong, she does a good job with my hair but I am not feeling the losing the thickness portion and I considering going back to braids to give my hair a breather from the hot iron.

See that the issue. I am a slave to my hair dresser and I dont do anything besides what she does it for me. I cannot handle my own hair other than brushing it down in the morning...


Trim about once every month and a half...or every other time I go see her.

My hair is natural and I get it flat ironed about once every 3 weeks.  My hair has grown significantly over the last year and while it has great length, it is not as full as it used to be (you know, the closer you get to the ends it thins out).  Any suggestions for thickening the hair ends???

Do you trim regularly?  As Cahow said, you may have to sacrifice some length to get the fullness back.

In that case, your hair probably just doesn't like being flat ironed that often.  You may just have to consider whether straight hair every so often is worth thin ends.  :-\  What type of heat protectant do you use?  How about moisture/protein treatments?

Does she do natural stuff? Maybe find someone who is good at stuff like 2 strand twists, which are fairly low maintenance but are a lot better for your hair.  Or sit down with her and tell her your concerns and see what she says.  Just because you like the way she does your hair doesn't mean that it's good for your hair or that she even knows what's good for your hair.  Some hairdressers are woefully undertrained when it comes to dealing with natural hair or keeping any hair healthy!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 10, 2007, 08:11:49 AM
She claims she specializes in natural hair but really the only natural thing I see going on is the not perming and spraying some olive oil sheen.  Dont get me wrong, she does a good job with my hair but I am not feeling the losing the thickness portion and I considering going back to braids to give my hair a breather from the hot iron.

See that the issue. I am a slave to my hair dresser and I dont do anything besides what she does it for me. I cannot handle my own hair other than brushing it down in the morning...


Trim about once every month and a half...or every other time I go see her.

My hair is natural and I get it flat ironed about once every 3 weeks.  My hair has grown significantly over the last year and while it has great length, it is not as full as it used to be (you know, the closer you get to the ends it thins out).  Any suggestions for thickening the hair ends???

Do you trim regularly?  As Cahow said, you may have to sacrifice some length to get the fullness back.

In that case, your hair probably just doesn't like being flat ironed that often.  You may just have to consider whether straight hair every so often is worth thin ends.  :-\  What type of heat protectant do you use?  How about moisture/protein treatments?

Does she do natural stuff? Maybe find someone who is good at stuff like 2 strand twists, which are fairly low maintenance but are a lot better for your hair.  Or sit down with her and tell her your concerns and see what she says.  Just because you like the way she does your hair doesn't mean that it's good for your hair or that she even knows what's good for your hair.  Some hairdressers are woefully undertrained when it comes to dealing with natural hair or keeping any hair healthy!

Someone who does nothing but flat iron your hair does NOT specialise in natural hair!!!!   ;)  It's tough finding an easy style that isn't damaging.  Good luck!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on July 10, 2007, 08:53:10 AM
Someone who does nothing but flat iron your hair does NOT specialise in natural hair!!!! 

True that!  Unless she can do low stress styles that also give you the look you desire, you may need to shop around for someone new.  Are there other salons in your area that you'd consider?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 10, 2007, 08:54:23 AM
Someone who does nothing but flat iron your hair does NOT specialise in natural hair!!!! 

True that!  Unless she can do low stress styles that also give you the look you desire, you may need to shop around for someone new.  Are there other salons in your area that you'd consider?

what do you do to your hair nat?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on July 10, 2007, 08:57:36 AM
Someone who does nothing but flat iron your hair does NOT specialise in natural hair!!!! 

True that!  Unless she can do low stress styles that also give you the look you desire, you may need to shop around for someone new.  Are there other salons in your area that you'd consider?

what do you do to your hair nat?

I'm loc'ing it now, but before that I did a variety of styles.  I loved the 'fro, but it got too time-consuming trying to maintain it on a daily basis.  So I usually did two-strand twists, comb coils, or some variation of that.  I loved it, but I have to admit that I enjoy the locs more!

ETA  Didn't you say you were getting locs one time?  Or did I imagine that?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 10, 2007, 09:00:58 AM
Someone who does nothing but flat iron your hair does NOT specialise in natural hair!!!! 

True that!  Unless she can do low stress styles that also give you the look you desire, you may need to shop around for someone new.  Are there other salons in your area that you'd consider?

what do you do to your hair nat?

I'm loc'ing it now, but before that I did a variety of styles.  I loved the 'fro, but it got too time-consuming trying to maintain it on a daily basis.  So I usually did two-strand twists, comb coils, or some variation of that.  I loved it, but I have to admit that I enjoy the locs more!

ETA  Didn't you say you were getting locs one time?  Or did I imagine that?

I said that. I'm gonna hold off on it for a lil bit. I'm back to enjoying my fro. I two strand twist mine too. The only thing I don't like is what to do when its gonna rain.   :(
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on July 10, 2007, 09:05:48 AM
I said that. I'm gonna hold off on it for a lil bit. I'm back to enjoying my fro. I two strand twist mine too. The only thing I don't like is what to do when its gonna rain.   :(

Does the rain affect it that much?  Is your hair very curly?  I actually had fewer problems in the rain with my twists, but our textures might just be different.

Do you twist it yourself?  How long does it take?  If I could have gotten it down to 2 hours or less, I would have probably stuck with it.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 10, 2007, 09:09:48 AM
I flat iron once a week or every two weeks. 

You have to trim the ends. It will still grow, trust me.  I have been with my current stylist and she has really taught me some things.  Thermasilk products are great.  Using heat defense products is good.  My hair has grown tremendously and despite the flat ironing, my ends are not split at all.  But you do have to trim.  I trim every other month, and most of the time, what was trimmed grows back in about a month. So, it is still growing.


My hair is natural and I get it flat ironed about once every 3 weeks.  My hair has grown significantly over the last year and while it has great length, it is not as full as it used to be (you know, the closer you get to the ends it thins out).  Any suggestions for thickening the hair ends???
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: law_dawg_07 on July 10, 2007, 09:17:35 AM
I dont have split ends...my hair is very healthy and it looks healthy.  It is just not as full on the bottom as I would like it to be but I will look into the heat defense products...


I flat iron once a week or every two weeks. 

You have to trim the ends. It will still grow, trust me.  I have been with my current stylist and she has really taught me some things.  Thermasilk products are great.  Using heat defense products is good.  My hair has grown tremendously and despite the flat ironing, my ends are not split at all.  But you do have to trim.  I trim every other month, and most of the time, what was trimmed grows back in about a month. So, it is still growing.


My hair is natural and I get it flat ironed about once every 3 weeks.  My hair has grown significantly over the last year and while it has great length, it is not as full as it used to be (you know, the closer you get to the ends it thins out).  Any suggestions for thickening the hair ends???
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 10, 2007, 09:19:59 AM
I said that. I'm gonna hold off on it for a lil bit. I'm back to enjoying my fro. I two strand twist mine too. The only thing I don't like is what to do when its gonna rain.   :(

Does the rain affect it that much?  Is your hair very curly?  I actually had fewer problems in the rain with my twists, but our textures might just be different.

Do you twist it yourself?  How long does it take?  If I could have gotten it down to 2 hours or less, I would have probably stuck with it.

The rain kills it. :(  my two strand twists are very rudimentary. it takes 10 mins.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 10, 2007, 09:27:41 AM
I said that. I'm gonna hold off on it for a lil bit. I'm back to enjoying my fro. I two strand twist mine too. The only thing I don't like is what to do when its gonna rain.   :(

Does the rain affect it that much?  Is your hair very curly?  I actually had fewer problems in the rain with my twists, but our textures might just be different.

Do you twist it yourself?  How long does it take?  If I could have gotten it down to 2 hours or less, I would have probably stuck with it.

The rain kills it. :(  my two strand twists are very rudimentary. it takes 10 mins.

If and when I go natural, I really lake the 2strand twist look.  I'm too busy (lazy) to do it myself, so I'm gonna have to find a stylist that I can really rely on!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 10, 2007, 01:33:20 PM
What is a two-strand twist?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 10, 2007, 01:46:00 PM
What is a two-strand twist?

Taking 2 pieces of hair (not literally 2 strands) and twisitng them together.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 10, 2007, 02:05:02 PM
Hmm.  I don't get it.  Just rolling them together?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on July 10, 2007, 02:23:39 PM
Hmm.  I don't get it.  Just rolling them together?

Look here.
http://motowngirl.com/twists.php
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 10, 2007, 02:24:27 PM
Ahhhh OK.  Thanks! :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 10, 2007, 04:26:41 PM
Twists are the bomb.

I love them, though I haven't worn them in awhile.

I am sad that my shampoo and conditioner has been discontinued . . . they claim they have replaced it with something else, but I am open to suggestions.  What does everyone use on the board?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on July 10, 2007, 04:44:37 PM
I use creme of nature-  it's the only thing really gentle but strong enuf to "discipline" my hair..  Okay and also kinda cheaplemme fess up.   :D Smells good 2
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ohstacey on July 10, 2007, 04:49:04 PM
I use Kera Care products by Avlon.  Great for taming frizz in humid climates too.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 10, 2007, 06:32:33 PM
aveda scalp therapy

Twists are the bomb.

I love them, though I haven't worn them in awhile.

I am sad that my shampoo and conditioner has been discontinued . . . they claim they have replaced it with something else, but I am open to suggestions.  What does everyone use on the board?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: GoldenAfro on July 10, 2007, 06:38:42 PM
I also use Cream of Nature shampoo.  But I use cholesterol conditioner.   

My best friend uses Fructis shampoo and condition and swears by it. All I can say is that it does smell good.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: P.U.S.H on July 10, 2007, 10:46:01 PM
Twists are the bomb.

I love them, though I haven't worn them in awhile.

I am sad that my shampoo and conditioner has been discontinued . . . they claim they have replaced it with something else, but I am open to suggestions.  What does everyone use on the board?

I don't know if you like natural shampoos/conditioners but I can swear by, attest to, etc etc Oyin hair care products (http://oyinhandmade.com/). It's online only but I live overseas and receive my stuff in a week, so State-side I'm sure it's just as fast.

All the stuff is homemade, and the scents are light and sweet (rich almond scented shea butter, chocolate scented whipped puddng, honey hemp conditioner). The shampoo bar I use sparingly - only when I've put a lot of products in my hair and I need a clarifier, but the conditioners, pudding, creams are great for every day care.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: BrwnEydGrl on July 10, 2007, 11:26:49 PM
Twists are the bomb.

I love them, though I haven't worn them in awhile.

I am sad that my shampoo and conditioner has been discontinued . . . they claim they have replaced it with something else, but I am open to suggestions.  What does everyone use on the board?

I'm currently transitioning...but i love the Aveda and Keracare line...
the keracare humecto (the one in the tub) is a great deep conditioner and i love the smell :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 11, 2007, 07:58:59 AM
I'm a huge product junkie, so I have a bunch of shampoos that I switch off.  These include Neutrogena Triple Moisture, Nexxus Therappe and Aloe Rid, Keracare Moisturising Shampoo, and occaisionally Body Shop Olive Glossing Shampoo, and I'm still looking for the "perfect" shampoo.  I have various conditioners from those brands as well.

<-- Has no idea how she's gonna get all her beauty crap to Ann Arbor  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: iman on July 11, 2007, 08:08:19 AM
how my hair is in almost all of my (fb) pictures. alci, if i had known you were so interested in natural hair... :D
does this work gengis?

(http://www.curlyhairsalon.com/images/long2strandtwistsnew.gif)


Hmm.  I don't get it.  Just rolling them together?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 11, 2007, 08:12:03 AM
alci, if i had known you were so interested in natural hair... :D

Lol I feel that it is my duty as a black male to know natural hair terminology. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 11, 2007, 09:00:08 AM
I'm still looking for the "perfect" shampoo.

BIOLAGE.  Just do it. ;)

Which one?  And what makes it so great?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 11, 2007, 03:21:25 PM
I'm still looking for the "perfect" shampoo.

BIOLAGE.  Just do it. ;)

Which one?  And what makes it so great?

My hair has never, but ever, been is such great condition as in the past year, not even when it was 100% natural.  It's soft, strong, has no split ends and minimal breakage (well, minimal given my styling technique ;)) and it grows like the dickens.  What's not to love?

Which shampoo?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 11, 2007, 05:06:06 PM
I'm still looking for the "perfect" shampoo.

BIOLAGE.  Just do it. ;)

Which one?  And what makes it so great?

My hair has never, but ever, been is such great condition as in the past year, not even when it was 100% natural.  It's soft, strong, has no split ends and minimal breakage (well, minimal given my styling technique ;)) and it grows like the dickens.  What's not to love?

Which shampoo?

I used to use the color line, but I switched to ultra-hydrating awhile ago, and I think it's the one.

Gracias.  Maybe I'll give it a try.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 12, 2007, 05:11:35 AM
I should give you samples for your next b-day or somethin' - "You know what you need cahow?  More product!  Happy happy!"

::Cough:: September 22 ::Cough::
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 12, 2007, 06:00:10 AM
 :D :D

I should give you samples for your next b-day or somethin' - "You know what you need cahow?  More product!  Happy happy!"

::Cough:: September 22 ::Cough::
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: law_dawg_07 on July 12, 2007, 06:02:04 AM
Where do you find biolage?

I should give you samples for your next b-day or somethin' - "You know what you need cahow?  More product!  Happy happy!"
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 12, 2007, 06:08:27 AM
Where do you find biolage?

I should give you samples for your next b-day or somethin' - "You know what you need cahow?  More product!  Happy happy!"

Salons and places like ulta and trade secrets.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 15, 2007, 09:11:03 AM
OMG you're Sept. 22?! I'm Sept. 23! yay

anyway, I use a combo of things but right now Dr. Woods's peppermint castile soap (I like it harsh; I don't dilute) and Creme of Nature regular (it doesn't have sulfates!)

In other hair news, my family has officially decided they like my locs :D I didn't care at all, but I think it's so funny the way they always start out skeptical of what I do and a few months later change their minds.

Your eyes don't burn/tear?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 15, 2007, 11:40:25 AM
is that the brownish colored shampoo with the blue &white label? i used that briefly when i started my locs and i found myself fighting with my hair to get all of the residue/build up out..

and u had to know that their opinion would change a bit once you got a little bit of length.. fam is funny that way lol

OMG you're Sept. 22?! I'm Sept. 23! yay

anyway, I use a combo of things but right now Dr. Woods's peppermint castile soap (I like it harsh; I don't dilute) and Creme of Nature regular (it doesn't have sulfates!)

In other hair news, my family has officially decided they like my locs :D I didn't care at all, but I think it's so funny the way they always start out skeptical of what I do and a few months later change their minds.

Your eyes don't burn/tear?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 15, 2007, 06:41:13 PM
hmm..that could be the reason.. @ the time i was going to the shop every now and then (this was 02 when i started them) and i think that there may have been a bit of beeswax in the products that the stylist used..

Your eyes don't burn/tear?

No, for some reason it doesn't bother me at all.

is that the brownish colored shampoo with the blue &white label? i used that briefly when i started my locs and i found myself fighting with my hair to get all of the residue/build up out..

and u had to know that their opinion would change a bit once you got a little bit of length.. fam is funny that way lol


Yeah it's that. I like it because it releases any product you have in your hair. I only had that gunk in my hair when I was washing when I used products with beeswax. Now that I just use oil, very light gel, and light conditioner I have no problems with it. :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: SKW on July 16, 2007, 05:54:33 AM
Anyone out there with some advice for naturally curly hair? I love the option of wearing my hair natural but I have yet to find that one special product that will hold the curls without poufing up my hair. I've tried some of the products from http://curls.biz/ (http://curls.biz/) but they didn't seem to work at holding my hair while maintaining some length...and I hate using those crunchy gels. Any suggestions?

Oh and you can check out what your hair type is, it's very helpful http://www.curls.biz/curlsproductguide.htm#HAIRchart (http://www.curls.biz/curlsproductguide.htm#HAIRchart). I'm a 3B/3C hybrid=A mess!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 06:16:09 AM
Anyone out there with some advice for naturally curly hair?

Isn't most black hair naturally curly?  Humor me: What term would you use to differentiate your hair from normal black people curliness?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 06:38:59 AM
Lol I'm sure that's what you say.  "You tightly curled hair mofo!"
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: SKW on July 16, 2007, 06:45:31 AM
Anyone out there with some advice for naturally curly hair?

Isn't most black hair naturally curly?  Humor me: What term would you use to differentiate your hair from normal black people curliness?

I certainly don't think there's such thing as "normal black people curliness." Everyone's hair has different wave and curl patterns and most have a blend going on in their tresses (reason why I included the second link)...So no, I don't have or use a term to differentiate my hair from anyone else's. I just noticed that everyone had great dialogue going on about loc maintenance so I wanted to know if there were ladies that wore their natural curls and if they had any advice on products...that's all.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 06:45:56 AM
No, I'm just sure that's what is.  What do you think they were talking about at Madame Re-Re's?

Who?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 06:47:27 AM
Y'all were supposed to say nappy!  (or cahow's "n-word knots") I certainly did not mean to start a debate on hair texture. ::sigh:: I should have asked a more leading question instead of that open-ended one.  Duly noted. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 06:50:30 AM
 when she posed the question i immediately thought about freddie from different world.. and my texture has certainly never been that curly  :D :D

talk about good and bad hair ;)

Y'all were supposed to say nappy!  (or cahow's "n-word knots") I certainly did not mean to start a debate on hair texture. ::sigh:: I should have asked a more leading question instead of that open-ended one.  Duly noted. 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 06:50:48 AM
No, I'm just sure that's what is.  What do you think they were talking about at Madame Re-Re's?

Who?

School Daze, Alci.

Oh, I don't remember the names from that movie.

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 06:52:47 AM
Which one was Freddie?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 06:53:51 AM
wannabes
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 06:54:29 AM
Ahh ok.  I didn't watch it when I was little, but the g/f has pretty much every episode tivoed.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 06:55:22 AM
Which one was Freddie?

::writing furiously::
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: SKW on July 16, 2007, 06:57:31 AM
Freddie=Cree Summer

http://www.gargoyles-fans.org/characters/images/cree_summer.jpg (http://www.gargoyles-fans.org/characters/images/cree_summer.jpg)

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 06:57:51 AM
Ahh ok.  I didn't watch it when I was little, but the g/f has pretty much every episode tivoed.

You should get her the DVDs.

Hmmm.  Not a bad idea.

Which one was Freddie?

::writing furiously::

Lol whatever.  That show came on when I was 4-10.  Definitely wasn't into that.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 07:01:52 AM
School Daze came on when you were 5--yet you have a passing knowledge of it (I hope).  no excuses.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:04:53 AM
School Daze came on when you were 5--yet you have a passing knowledge of it (I hope).  no excuses.

But that's a movie.  I'm not a big fan of watching old TV shows (L&O and Seinfeld being the exceptions).  And I had heard of Whitley...just didn't watch the show.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 07:08:58 AM
whitley reminded me of a few people from your ug back in the day ;)

School Daze came on when you were 5--yet you have a passing knowledge of it (I hope).  no excuses.

But that's a movie.  I'm not a big fan of watching old TV shows (L&O and Seinfeld being the exceptions).  And I had heard of Whitley...just didn't watch the show.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:09:48 AM
Lol I bet.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 07:10:36 AM
School Daze came on when you were 5--yet you have a passing knowledge of it (I hope).  no excuses.

But that's a movie.  I'm not a big fan of watching old TV shows (L&O and Seinfeld being the exceptions).  And I had heard of Whitley...just didn't watch the show.

no excuses Deacon Frye.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:11:19 AM
Who is that
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 07:17:24 AM
Demerits issued to Alcibiades.  >:(  Do better!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:19:37 AM
Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 07:23:26 AM
it's ok.. lol.. my parents didn't really let me watch different world when it came on as they were concerned about some of the content...we watched the cosby show though..

Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 07:24:53 AM
you've got more excuses than a slum lord.

ETA: there is no way you could watch the Jeffersons and not have an inkling of who Deacon Frye was
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 16, 2007, 07:25:58 AM
Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.

Deacon Frye was on Amen, which aired back to back with 227.  The Jefferson's pre-dated Amen and both featured Sherman Helmsley.

Did you watch Sanford and Son, Good Times? Just curious.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:26:01 AM
it's ok.. lol.. my parents didn't really let me watch different world when it came on as they were concerned about some of the content...we watched the cosby show though..

Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.

Lol we didn't watch that either.

We also benefited from having satellite back when satellite was free (remember the big dishes...yeah).  So there were too many other things to watch.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 07:26:11 AM
it's ok.. lol.. my parents didn't really let me watch different world when it came on as they were concerned about some of the content...we watched the cosby show though..

Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.

I wasn't allowed to watch quite a few episodes--that said, I wasn't living under a rock.  Who is Freddy?  Come on now!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:27:29 AM
Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.

Deacon Frye was on Amen, which aired back to back with 227.  The Jefferson's pre-dated Amen and both featured Sherman Helmsley.

Did you watch Sanford and Son, Good Times? Just curious.

See I don't remember the characters (except Jackee)...just random pictures in my head.  Dang, give me a break!  We did also watch Amen and Sanford and Son.  Now I really liked and somewhat remember Sanford and Son.  Fred, Lamont, and that mean lady.  No Good Times.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 07:28:40 AM
::sending Alci's parents demerits::
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 16, 2007, 07:29:58 AM
Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.

Deacon Frye was on Amen, which aired back to back with 227.  The Jefferson's pre-dated Amen and both featured Sherman Helmsley.

Did you watch Sanford and Son, Good Times? Just curious.

See I don't remember the characters (except Jackee)...just random pictures in my head.  Dang, give me a break!  We did also watch Amen and Sanford and Son.  Now I really liked and remember Sanford and Son.  Fred, Lamont, and that mean lady.  No Good Times.
"That mean lady"...you mean Aunt Esther?!  You old fish-eyed fool ;)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:31:19 AM
::sending Alci's parents demerits::

Lol whatever.  Y'all should've been reading instead of watching so much TV.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:31:37 AM
Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.

Deacon Frye was on Amen, which aired back to back with 227.  The Jefferson's pre-dated Amen and both featured Sherman Helmsley.

Did you watch Sanford and Son, Good Times? Just curious.

See I don't remember the characters (except Jackee)...just random pictures in my head.  Dang, give me a break!  We did also watch Amen and Sanford and Son.  Now I really liked and remember Sanford and Son.  Fred, Lamont, and that mean lady.  No Good Times.
"That mean lady"...you mean Aunt Esther?!  You old fish-eyed fool ;)

YES!!  How could I forget?  Lol I loved her :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 07:32:39 AM
::sending Alci's parents demerits::

Lol whatever.  Y'all should've been reading instead of watching so much TV.

who wants to point out the logical fallacy in this argument?  0Ls this one comes on a silver platter
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 07:33:37 AM
eh on one hand i think he should know..on the other i feel a bit silly for acting as if there's a code for black folks as in we should know all or most of the characters on blk shows lol...

it is "weird" though.. i remember going to best buy  looking for the wiz.. and there was a blk guy that worked there.. & he asked me "what's the wiz?" even the white woman behind me (which cracked me up btw) said.. " you don't know what the wiz is?"  :D :D :D :D

so yeah #1 this kinda reminded me of that..

it's ok.. lol.. my parents didn't really let me watch different world when it came on as they were concerned about some of the content...we watched the cosby show though..

Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.

I wasn't allowed to watch quite a few episodes--that said, I wasn't living under a rock.  Who is Freddy?  Come on now!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 07:34:19 AM
wait.. u didn't watch the cosby show?

it's ok.. lol.. my parents didn't really let me watch different world when it came on as they were concerned about some of the content...we watched the cosby show though..

Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.

Lol we didn't watch that either.

We also benefited from having satellite back when satellite was free (remember the big dishes...yeah).  So there were too many other things to watch.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:35:39 AM
::sending Alci's parents demerits::

Lol whatever.  Y'all should've been reading instead of watching so much TV.

who wants to point out the logical fallacy in this argument?  0Ls this one comes on a silver platter

No logical fallacy...any time spent watching TV could have been time spent reading :P.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:36:10 AM
wait.. u didn't watch the cosby show?

it's ok.. lol.. my parents didn't really let me watch different world when it came on as they were concerned about some of the content...we watched the cosby show though..

Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.

Lol we didn't watch that either.

We also benefited from having satellite back when satellite was free (remember the big dishes...yeah).  So there were too many other things to watch.

Every now and then.  I knew who the characters were.  But not regularly.  I can't name plots like y'all can.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 07:36:27 AM
no one said he needs to know all--but Freddy?  come on now!

ETA:
wait.. u didn't watch the cosby show?

exactly.  demerits all round!  he should be glad I didn't pull cards.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:38:31 AM
And why weren't y'all outside playing?  City folks.  Lots of reasons why I wouldn't know these shows that well.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 07:39:45 AM
::sending Alci's parents demerits::

Lol whatever.  Y'all should've been reading instead of watching so much TV.

who wants to point out the logical fallacy in this argument?  0Ls this one comes on a silver platter

No logical fallacy...any time spent watching TV could have been time spent reading :P.

the same would apply to you with your satellite access.  I'm actually gonna go out on a limb and say that I watched much less tv than you did growing up.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:40:35 AM
Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.

Only child is clearly not a valid excuse in this instance. ::)

Only child + old parents who wouldn't watch that kind of stuff.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:41:38 AM
wait.. u didn't watch the cosby show?

it's ok.. lol.. my parents didn't really let me watch different world when it came on as they were concerned about some of the content...we watched the cosby show though..

Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.

Lol we didn't watch that either.

We also benefited from having satellite back when satellite was free (remember the big dishes...yeah).  So there were too many other things to watch.

Every now and then.  I knew who the characters were.  But not regularly.  I can't name plots like y'all can.

Can you even name the kids?

Yes, but mainly b/c that's another show the g/f watches all the time.  Before her, I could probably only name Rudy and Theo.  Hmmm, there's Denice b/c I just saw a show with her coming home from college.  Then there's that other girl that I forget.

ETA: Oh!  And Raven-Symone's character
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 07:41:46 AM
i lived in a cold city :D...but seriously.. the cosby show was something that we'd all watch as a fam.. lol i still remember the special that aired the day of the last episode with boyz ii men singing "it's so hard to say goodbye to the cosby show"

to this day though..i haven't seen one episode of seinfield :P

And why weren't y'all outside playing?  City folks.  Lots of reasons why I wouldn't know these shows that well.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 16, 2007, 07:42:35 AM
I feel torn as well. I don't let my children watch the so called "black shows" that come on today but I do let them watch the ones I used to watch, Cosby etc.  Aside from those they are limited to 2 stations:  Animal Channel and Food Network....all else is a NO GO.

Sidenote: everytime a guy posts in the hair thread it seems to get off topic  ::)

eh on one hand i think he should know..on the other i feel a bit silly for acting as if there's a code for black folks as in we should know all or most of the characters on blk shows lol...

it is "weird" though.. i remember going to best buy  looking for the wiz.. and there was a blk guy that worked there.. & he asked me "what's the wiz?" even the white woman behind me (which cracked me up btw) said.. " you don't know what the wiz is?"  :D :D :D :D

so yeah #1 this kinda reminded me of that..

it's ok.. lol.. my parents didn't really let me watch different world when it came on as they were concerned about some of the content...we watched the cosby show though..

Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.

I wasn't allowed to watch quite a few episodes--that said, I wasn't living under a rock.  Who is Freddy?  Come on now!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:43:03 AM
And why weren't y'all outside playing?  City folks.  Lots of reasons why I wouldn't know these shows that well.

Reading, playing and watching TV are not mutually exclusive.  You just can't admit you got a sh!te memory.

No, I readily concede my inability to remember characters.  But I really didn't watch the shows growing up.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:44:10 AM
Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.

Only child is clearly not a valid excuse in this instance. ::)

Only child + old parents who wouldn't watch that kind of stuff.

You surely aren't asserting that older people didn't watch any of those shows, are you?

A Different World?  My old parents sure as heck didn't.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 07:44:22 AM
::SMH at Alci who gets more demerits with almost each post::
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:45:01 AM
I loved me some Matlock and Murder, She Wrote.  Perry Mason was OK too.  And Diagnosis Murder :P.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 07:45:26 AM
man.. .there are no quality black shows out now...and have u heard about the new programming that's coming on BET now?

hot ghetto mess and two other shows that are nauseating

I feel torn as well. I don't let my children watch the so called "black shows" that come on today but I do let them watch the ones I used to watch, Cosby etc.  Aside from those they are limited to 2 stations:  Animal Channel and Food Network....all else is a NO GO.

Sidenote: everytime a guy posts in the hair thread it seems to get off topic  ::)

eh on one hand i think he should know..on the other i feel a bit silly for acting as if there's a code for black folks as in we should know all or most of the characters on blk shows lol...

it is "weird" though.. i remember going to best buy  looking for the wiz.. and there was a blk guy that worked there.. & he asked me "what's the wiz?" even the white woman behind me (which cracked me up btw) said.. " you don't know what the wiz is?"  :D :D :D :D

so yeah #1 this kinda reminded me of that..

it's ok.. lol.. my parents didn't really let me watch different world when it came on as they were concerned about some of the content...we watched the cosby show though..

Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.

I wasn't allowed to watch quite a few episodes--that said, I wasn't living under a rock.  Who is Freddy?  Come on now!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 07:46:22 AM
oh dear..my grandmother loved those shows..everytime i see a typewriter i have flashbacks...

I loved me some Matlock and Murder, She Wrote.  Perry Mason was OK too.  And Diagnosis Murder :P.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 07:48:37 AM
man ain't nobody sayin kids should be watchin StepinFetchit, but the Cosby show?  negroes should be able to know who the Cosby kids are
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:49:09 AM
Who's the one I missed?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 07:49:36 AM
 :D :D
man ain't nobody sayin kids should be watchin StepinFetchit, but the Cosby show?  negroes should be able to know who the Cosby kids are
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 07:50:02 AM
sondra

Who's the one I missed?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:51:11 AM
They had too many kids.  What was Raven's name?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:52:04 AM
Listen.  I'm an only child.  My parents were in their late 40s around then.  I watched 227 and Golden Girls, sometimes the Jeffersons, but not A Different World.  Sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but that's how it was.

Only child is clearly not a valid excuse in this instance. ::)

Only child + old parents who wouldn't watch that kind of stuff.

You surely aren't asserting that older people didn't watch any of those shows, are you?

A Different World?  My old parents sure as heck didn't.

PapaGengis did, In Living Color too, and he was as old as your parents.  But the were a number of other shows mentioned (Amen, etc.) that you also said your parents never watched.

No, they watched Amen.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 07:52:26 AM
They had too many kids.  What was Raven's name?

Olivia

eta: I don't know if I should shake my head or give you a hug
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:53:35 AM
Lol I didn't know until recently that Olivia was adopted or something.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 07:55:58 AM
Lol I didn't know until recently that Olivia was adopted or something.

 :( Olivia was Denise's stepdaughter
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 07:57:06 AM
lawd... Oliva was the stepdaughter of Denise..
i didn't even realize u forgot Vanessa.. I think I assumed that since Sondra didn't live in the house (and assuming u missed most of the episodes) u didn't see her that much.. but Vanessa was always there


Lol I didn't know until recently that Olivia was adopted or something.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:57:42 AM
Where was the dad?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 07:58:42 AM
Where was the dad?

Martin was in several shows, but was in the navy so he and Denise left at a certain point
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 07:59:25 AM
And left the child behind? smh
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 08:00:54 AM
navy..he'd come home whenever he could..u should really shake ur head @ olivia's mother lol

And left the child behind? smh
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 09:20:34 AM
#1 Jem wanted me to inform you that your blk card is revoked for today  :D :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 09:23:23 AM
and people say I'm harsh...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 09:55:33 AM
#1 Jem wanted me to inform you that your blk card is revoked for today  :D :)

Lol that's OK.  I always leave it at the security desk anyway (except for Rib Day ;)).
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on July 16, 2007, 10:27:17 AM
smh @ negroes not knowing the Huxtable kids.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 11:41:21 AM
Yeah it really only comes in handy on the weekends or on vacation.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: 2Lacoste on July 16, 2007, 11:45:05 AM
Yeah it really only comes in handy on the weekends or on vacation.


When you go visit the 'hood to cop a dime of that sticky, correct?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on July 16, 2007, 11:46:38 AM
Yeah it really only comes in handy on the weekends or on vacation.


When you go visit the 'hood to cop a dime of that sticky, correct?

:D :D :D

No Alci, the WHOLE week, weekend too.

titcr
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 11:49:51 AM
Yeah it really only comes in handy on the weekends or on vacation.


When you go visit the 'hood to cop a dime of that sticky, correct?

Visit the hood?  Nukka, I'm from the hood!

(what's a sticky?)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 11:50:25 AM
Yeah it really only comes in handy on the weekends or on vacation.


When you go visit the 'hood to cop a dime of that sticky, correct?

:D :D :D

No Alci, the WHOLE week, weekend too.

::sigh:: guess I'll just go out to the Eastern Shore.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 16, 2007, 11:50:56 AM
Yeah it really only comes in handy on the weekends or on vacation.


When you go visit the 'hood to cop a dime of that sticky, correct?

Visit the hood?  Nukka, I'm from the hood!

(what's a sticky?)

Are you kidding me?  Your card is definitely revoked!!!  
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 11:51:48 AM
Gum?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 16, 2007, 11:53:11 AM
Gum?

Weed.  I think it's a Southern term, but I can't confirm because my job deems urbandictionary.com to be inappropriate material.  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 11:54:53 AM
Oh.  Why is it called that?  Is it actually sticky?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: 2Lacoste on July 16, 2007, 11:56:12 AM
Gum?

Weed.  I think it's a Southern term, but I can't confirm because my job deems urbandictionary.com to be inappropriate material.  :D


lulz.


I always thought it a West Coast term (hence Snoop's, "sticky-icky-icky, ooh-wee").  Names for weed change hourly down here in the South: tree, fire, green, burn, dank, smoke, etc.

The funniest drug name ever is what Southerners call coke:  that white female dog or Becky.

"You got Becky at your crib?"
"Nah, I left that white female dog at my cousin's house."
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 11:57:13 AM
:D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 16, 2007, 12:12:20 PM
Oh.  Why is it called that? Is it actually sticky?

RIP: gemini5165
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 12:14:17 PM
 :D

Oh.  Why is it called that? Is it actually sticky?

RIP: gemini5165
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 12:15:30 PM
Well is it??  Inquiring minds want to know!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 12:24:39 PM
that's not something i can answer lol

Well is it??  Inquiring minds want to know!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 12:28:00 PM
that's not something i can answer lol

Well is it??  Inquiring minds want to know!

Yeah we need AL. (:P)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 16, 2007, 12:34:38 PM
I thought it was just a general term for weed, not for a specific type of weed.  Can someone check urban dictionary?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 12:40:42 PM
since i'm @ home & bored ;) lol..

 sticky  212 up, 15 down  
 
 Marijuana who's buds are lightly coated in a sticky natural resin.

I'm so juiced, playa! I got da hookup on some super-sticky and I'ma get faded!

 
I thought it was just a general term for weed, not for a specific type of weed.  Can someone check urban dictionary?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 16, 2007, 12:42:19 PM
since i'm @ home & bored ;) lol..

 sticky  212 up, 15 down  
 
 Marijuana who's buds are lightly coated in a sticky natural resin.

I'm so juiced, playa! I got da hookup on some super-sticky and I'ma get faded!

 
I thought it was just a general term for weed, not for a specific type of weed.  Can someone check urban dictionary?

The more you know...  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 12:45:14 PM
since i'm @ home & bored ;) lol..

 sticky  212 up, 15 down 
 
 Marijuana who's buds are lightly coated in a sticky natural resin.

I'm so juiced, playa! I got da hookup on some super-sticky and I'ma get faded!

 
I thought it was just a general term for weed, not for a specific type of weed.  Can someone check urban dictionary?

Interesting!  I didn't even know marijuana had buds.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 16, 2007, 12:47:01 PM
::Collects all of Alci's cards - Blk, urban, southern::

::Collects Cahow and Blk's "Urban" cards::

Just put em in the bag folks and keep it movin  :P

EDIT: Anyone else use Urban Dictionary? Not know the Huxtables by name and role?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 12:47:45 PM
 :D :D

::Collects all of Alci's cards - Blk, urban, southern::

::Collects Cahow and Blk's "Urban" cards::

Just put em in the bag folks and keep it movin  :P
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 12:48:30 PM
Whoa whoa whoa.  Hold up.  How'd I lose my southern card??
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 16, 2007, 12:48:55 PM
::Collects all of Alci's cards - Blk, urban, southern::

::Collects Cahow and Blk's "Urban" cards::

Just put em in the bag folks and keep it movin  :P

Nu uh, I knew that sticky was weed.  I just didn't know what type.

::Takes card back::

::Sticks out tongue::

::Runs away::
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 16, 2007, 12:49:46 PM
since i'm @ home & bored ;) lol..

 sticky  212 up, 15 down 
 
 Marijuana who's buds are lightly coated in a sticky natural resin.

I'm so juiced, playa! I got da hookup on some super-sticky and I'ma get faded!

 
I thought it was just a general term for weed, not for a specific type of weed.  Can someone check urban dictionary?

Interesting!  I didn't even know marijuana had buds.

 ::)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 16, 2007, 12:50:46 PM
::Collects all of Alci's cards - Blk, urban, southern::

::Collects Cahow and Blk's "Urban" cards::

Just put em in the bag folks and keep it movin  :P

Nu uh, I knew that sticky was weed.  I just didn't know what type.

::Takes card back::

::Sticks out tongue::

::Runs away::


That was gangsta...you get to keep your card. :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 12:51:58 PM
since i'm @ home & bored ;) lol..

 sticky  212 up, 15 down 
 
 Marijuana who's buds are lightly coated in a sticky natural resin.

I'm so juiced, playa! I got da hookup on some super-sticky and I'ma get faded!

 
I thought it was just a general term for weed, not for a specific type of weed.  Can someone check urban dictionary?

Interesting!  I didn't even know marijuana had buds.

 ::)

 :-\ Obviously I should have spent more time with my hippie friends when they went under the bridge at night in undergrad.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 16, 2007, 12:53:01 PM
::Collects all of Alci's cards - Blk, urban, southern::

::Collects Cahow and Blk's "Urban" cards::

Just put em in the bag folks and keep it movin  :P

Nu uh, I knew that sticky was weed.  I just didn't know what type.

::Takes card back::

::Sticks out tongue::

::Runs away::


That was gangsta...you get to keep your card. :D

::does eastside stomp as victory dance::

::laughs at #1::

 :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 12:55:47 PM
Sticking out your tongue is not gangsta unless you are dunking a ball

::writes furiously::  ::pauses::  ::shakes head::
warning issued to gemini
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 12:58:10 PM
Sticking out your tongue is never gangsta.

::takes ticket book from OSA::  ::issues warning::
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 16, 2007, 12:58:57 PM
Sticking out your tongue is never gangsta.

::takes ticket book from OSA::  ::issues warning::

You are the last person to be issuing anything!  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 16, 2007, 01:03:52 PM
Sticking out your tongue is not gangsta unless you are dunking a ball

::writes furiously::  ::pauses::  ::shakes head::
warning issued to gemini

::Takes warning::
::uses it to roll up some sticky::
::lights it::
::blows rings in OSA's face::
::tells OSA to stand to the right::
::passes "warning" back to OSA::
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 01:07:01 PM
Sticking out your tongue is not gangsta unless you are dunking a ball

::writes furiously::  ::pauses::  ::shakes head::
warning issued to gemini

::Takes warning::
::uses it to roll up some sticky::
::lights it::
::blows rings in OSA's face::
::tells OSA to stand to the right::
::passes "warning" back to OSA::

better
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 01:08:42 PM
Sticking out your tongue is never gangsta.

::takes ticket book from OSA::  ::issues warning::

negro please.  you probably don't even get the reference.  go sit your ass down and let grown folks talk.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 01:11:05 PM
Regardless of what it's a reference to, it ain't gangsta!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 01:12:17 PM
Regardless of what it's a reference to, it ain't gangsta!

card revoked indefinitely
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: 2Lacoste on July 16, 2007, 01:12:53 PM
No comment from the [redact and such] Harvard kid.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: justGem on July 16, 2007, 01:14:34 PM
No comment from the former pothead Harvard kid.

CHARACTER&FITNESSTESTPWNED?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 01:19:37 PM
 :D
No comment from the former pothead Harvard kid.

CHARACTER&FITNESSTESTPWNED?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on July 16, 2007, 01:21:32 PM
:D
No comment from the former pothead Harvard kid.

CHARACTER&FITNESSTESTPWNED?

yah, dead
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 01:23:40 PM
No comment from the former pothead Harvard kid.

How'd you get DOJ clearance then?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 01:26:15 PM
 :D u really don't think he disclosed that or got caught up do u?
No comment from the former pothead Harvard kid.

How'd you get DOJ clearance then?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: 2Lacoste on July 16, 2007, 01:27:45 PM
:D u really don't think he disclosed that or got caught up do u?
No comment from the former pothead Harvard kid.

How'd you get DOJ clearance then?


Precisely.  Never caught/no trouble with the law and wasn't drug tested, phew.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 01:29:17 PM
Lol it's not a matter of getting caught; you have to disclose it (or break the law).  Methinks someone is tryna front!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: 2Lacoste on July 16, 2007, 01:34:17 PM
Lol it's not a matter of getting caught; you have to disclose it (or break the law).  Methinks someone is tryna front!

LOL, I don't remember what I put on my app when that asked that question.  I'm pretty sure they just asked if you had done anything in the last 6 mos./yr.  I usually try to taper down/quit in time to answer truthfully (easier if they ask about the last 6 months than the last year). 

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 01:37:02 PM
I should have tried it back in ugrad.  Too late now...too many potential negatives.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: 2Lacoste on July 16, 2007, 01:40:10 PM
Yeah, I quit (read: turned into an opportunity smoker) after eleventh grade.  Smoked maybe 5-6 times a year since?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on July 16, 2007, 01:40:40 PM
I should have tried it back in ugrad.  Too late now...too many potential negatives.

never smoked even a cig...had no urge to try then and have no urge to try now
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 16, 2007, 01:42:13 PM
same here

I should have tried it back in ugrad.  Too late now...too many potential negatives.

never smoked even a cig...had no urge to try then and have no urge to try now
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 01:45:09 PM
I should have tried it back in ugrad.  Too late now...too many potential negatives.

never smoked even a cig...had no urge to try then and have no urge to try now

Yeah I don't have the urge either...just the passing almost-regret.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 16, 2007, 01:46:41 PM
I should have tried it back in ugrad.  Too late now...too many potential negatives.

you can try it once you've been admitted to the bar.  go to Amsterdam
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 16, 2007, 01:54:12 PM
Hmmmm...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: law_dawg_07 on July 17, 2007, 05:19:41 AM
Seriously...they have it on menus...different varieties grown under various conditions.  They are some real horticulturists out there...


[/quote]

you can try it once you've been admitted to the bar.  go to Amsterdam
[/quote]
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 17, 2007, 05:28:08 AM
I should have tried it back in ugrad.  Too late now...too many potential negatives.

you can try it once you've been admitted to the bar.  go to Amsterdam

Or the C&F in CA only requires you to disclose if you've ever been treated for addiction to a substance, not if you've ever tried it.

I'm gonna need you not to know all the details as if you had something to worry about...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 17, 2007, 05:51:30 AM
I should have tried it back in ugrad.  Too late now...too many potential negatives.

you can try it once you've been admitted to the bar.  go to Amsterdam

Or the C&F in CA only requires you to disclose if you've ever been treated for addiction to a substance, not if you've ever tried it.

I'm gonna need you not to know all the details as if you had something to worry about...

I'm not concerned, actually - there was an OTB thread awhile ago and some n00b was freaking out, so I did some research 'cause I was curious, and 'cause I wanted him to gear the f*ck down. :)

some "n00b" I'm sure  ;)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 19, 2007, 08:02:35 PM
I thought you said you liked them.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on July 19, 2007, 08:07:41 PM
I thought you said you liked them.

those things r horrible
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 19, 2007, 08:11:12 PM
understatement  :P

I thought you said you liked them.

those things r horrible

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 19, 2007, 08:53:38 PM
rofl  . . . thanks for breaking up the monotony!!!

I just saw a woman with a head full of finger waves. That is all.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 20, 2007, 07:22:47 PM
exactly


rofl  . . . thanks for breaking up the monotony!!!

I just saw a woman with a head full of finger waves. That is all.

See, SMU gets it. The issue is not like or dislike, it's the fact that whether you love 'em or hate 'em, it's almost as dated as a Jheri curl. Homegirl might as well have cut her hair short on one side, teased her bangs, and tightrolled her jeans while she was at it.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: ohstacey on July 25, 2007, 04:07:28 PM
rofl  . . . thanks for breaking up the monotony!!!

I just saw a woman with a head full of finger waves. That is all.

See, SMU gets it. The issue is not like or dislike, it's the fact that whether you love 'em or hate 'em, it's almost as dated as a Jheri curl. Homegirl might as well have cut her hair short on one side, teased her bangs, and tightrolled her jeans while she was at it.

Whoa, I used to ROCK some tight-rolled jeans, haha! ;D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 25, 2007, 04:28:17 PM
somebody needs to rock you then.. :P
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on July 26, 2007, 07:19:07 AM
To those that do not have locks or braids-  do ya'll do the flip?  You know instead of having the ends turned under you have 'em flip out?  Cause I just saw this one chick with the ends turned out PLUS different colors on every other end.  Now I know it's the color that's turning me off but the flip itself, to me, looks a lil' ghetto fabulous. 

<---- hoping that didnt sound boogie
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 26, 2007, 07:21:09 AM
Imo, the flip can be a very attractive hairstyle if done right (ie soft, with volume and movement, not a tight, stiff retro looking flip).  I used to wear my hair like that sometimes, back when I was hot curling almost every day.  Now that I roll it, it's always curled under.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on July 26, 2007, 07:23:49 AM
the ones I just saw were really stiff-  looked like she could hurt somebody if she flipped her hair.   :D  Homegyrl had too much hairspray, too many colors (pls tell me WTF is up with koolaid red, light brown, dark brown, and blonde),  and the flip.  To me, the turned under look seems more professional

EDIT: Did I mention that it was also weave?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 26, 2007, 07:28:34 AM
people with locks can flip their ends as well...mine are flipped now in fact and they certainly don't look ghetto fab..

back in the permmed days i'd wear a soft flip every now and then..

To those that do not have locks or braids-  do ya'll do the flip?  You know instead of having the ends turned under you have 'em flip out?  Cause I just saw this one chick with the ends turned out PLUS different colors on every other end.  Now I know it's the color that's turning me off but the flip itself, to me, looks a lil' ghetto fabulous. 

<---- hoping that didnt sound boogie
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on July 26, 2007, 07:30:51 AM
man i wish i had a camera phone!  soft-  okay but these mofos were crispy!!!  Kinda like a X-mas tree.  Lemme stop I'm being mean  :D 
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 26, 2007, 07:35:35 AM
true indeed.. i've seen some "ghettofab" locks lol

There are "ghettofabulous" versions of almost every hairstyle. Usually if hair is multicolored or crispy, it might fall into that category. I don't think it has much to do with the actual hairstyle.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on July 26, 2007, 07:37:22 AM
true indeed.. i've seen some "ghettofab" locks lol

There are "ghettofabulous" versions of almost every hairstyle. Usually if hair is multicolored or crispy, it might fall into that category. I don't think it has much to do with the actual hairstyle.

Yup, I've seen em died all sorts of colours!  I'm also not a fan of the caucasian locks.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 26, 2007, 07:39:49 AM
omg don't get me started on those... a white guy in the grocery store stopped me about mine yesterday and asked me how i got them to look so "polished" ::)

true indeed.. i've seen some "ghettofab" locks lol

There are "ghettofabulous" versions of almost every hairstyle. Usually if hair is multicolored or crispy, it might fall into that category. I don't think it has much to do with the actual hairstyle.

Yup, I've seen em died all sorts of colours!  I'm also not a fan of the caucasian locks.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on July 26, 2007, 08:01:50 AM
omg don't get me started on those... a white guy in the grocery store stopped me about mine yesterday and asked me how i got them to look so "polished" ::)


Maybe it's the....regular shampoos!  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 26, 2007, 08:08:33 AM
yah.. white ppl locks are the worst. lol

Edit: There is a white girl at H.. might have graduated not sure, but she has locs and they are dyed all different colors. If she were black, she'd look so damn ghetto. But since she's white, she just looks like a weird hippie.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on July 26, 2007, 08:17:00 AM
yah.. white ppl locks are the worst. lol

Edit: There is a white girl at H.. might have graduated not sure, but she has locs and they are dyed all different colors. If she were black, she'd look so damn ghetto. But since she's white, she just looks like a weird hippie.

agreed...the texture of their hair just isn't made for locs, and it always looks to so unkempt, dirty, and nasty like a birds nest.  gross
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 26, 2007, 08:19:14 AM
very disgusting.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 26, 2007, 09:11:29 AM
yah.. white ppl locks are the worst. lol

Edit: There is a white girl at H.. might have graduated not sure, but she has locs and they are dyed all different colors. If she were black, she'd look so damn ghetto. But since she's white, she just looks like a weird hippie.

lol I've met that girl. :D Isn't she in your class?

Who the hell knows. I don't mess with these ppl.  :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 26, 2007, 09:17:36 AM
 :D :D :D

yah.. white ppl locks are the worst. lol

Edit: There is a white girl at H.. might have graduated not sure, but she has locs and they are dyed all different colors. If she were black, she'd look so damn ghetto. But since she's white, she just looks like a weird hippie.

lol I've met that girl. :D Isn't she in your class?

Who the hell knows. I don't mess with these ppl.  :D
:D :D :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on July 26, 2007, 09:56:36 AM
yah.. white ppl locks are the worst. lol

Edit: There is a white girl at H.. might have graduated not sure, but she has locs and they are dyed all different colors. If she were black, she'd look so damn ghetto. But since she's white, she just looks like a weird hippie.

agreed...the texture of their hair just isn't made for locs, and it always looks to so unkempt, dirty, and nasty like a birds nest.  gross

 :D  LMAO. 

Just seems like that particular hair style (the flip) is usually asociated w/ ghettofabulousness moreso than some others.  I have never seen the flip look good.  Any pics?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 26, 2007, 10:19:42 AM
I've rocked the flip--your hair is less likely to get caught in your clothing etc.  For those with somewhat longish hair it is almost essential part of the repetoire.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on July 26, 2007, 10:58:07 AM
I've rocked the flip--your hair is less likely to get caught in your clothing etc.  For those with somewhat longish hair it is almost essential part of the repetoire.

OSA, all this time I was thinking you were a guy.  I don't know why.   :P
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 26, 2007, 11:07:11 AM
I've rocked the flip--your hair is less likely to get caught in your clothing etc.  For those with somewhat longish hair it is almost essential part of the repetoire.

OSA, all this time I was thinking you were a guy.  I don't know why.   :P

because I don't care about LV purses?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 26, 2007, 11:23:52 AM
ROFL! Damn.
I've rocked the flip--your hair is less likely to get caught in your clothing etc.  For those with somewhat longish hair it is almost essential part of the repetoire.

OSA, all this time I was thinking you were a guy.  I don't know why.   :P
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on July 26, 2007, 12:01:23 PM
I've rocked the flip--your hair is less likely to get caught in your clothing etc.  For those with somewhat longish hair it is almost essential part of the repetoire.

OSA, all this time I was thinking you were a guy.  I don't know why.   :P

because I don't care about LV purses?

No, I didn't know that.  I think maybe you posted a lot in the Black Men Thread, but I'm not even so sure about that anymore.  I think I just assumed it from your screen name when I first joined the board.  I never realized otherwise until you were talking about wearing the flip though.  My bad.  Now I know.   :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on July 26, 2007, 12:02:31 PM
I've rocked the flip--your hair is less likely to get caught in your clothing etc.  For those with somewhat longish hair it is almost essential part of the repetoire.

OSA, all this time I was thinking you were a guy.  I don't know why.   :P

because I don't care about LV purses?

No, I didn't know that.  I think maybe you posted a lot in the Black Men Thread, but I'm not even so sure about that anymore.  I think I just assumed it from your screen name when I first joined the board.  I never realized otherwise until you were talking about wearing the flip though.  My bad.  Now I know.   :)

don't worry about it...hell, had i not been a reg for the past 15 months, i'd think that OSA was a dude too.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on July 26, 2007, 12:03:44 PM
I've rocked the flip--your hair is less likely to get caught in your clothing etc.  For those with somewhat longish hair it is almost essential part of the repetoire.

OSA, all this time I was thinking you were a guy.  I don't know why.   :P

because I don't care about LV purses?

No, I didn't know that.  I think maybe you posted a lot in the Black Men Thread, but I'm not even so sure about that anymore.  I think I just assumed it from your screen name when I first joined the board.  I never realized otherwise until you were talking about wearing the flip though.  My bad.  Now I know.   :)

don't worry about it...hell, had i not been a reg for the past 15 months, i'd think that OSA was a dude too.

 :D  Thanks, Jem!
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on July 26, 2007, 12:24:18 PM
OSA and I should start a club or something.

nah i never would have thought u were a dude
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on July 26, 2007, 12:25:34 PM
lol me neither..

OSA i thought u were a guy when i first came on the board too.. back when u were under the other moniker.. maybe it's the tone and sarcasm.. at least that was my opinion back in the day til we chatted offboard

OSA and I should start a club or something.

nah i never would have thought u were a dude
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 26, 2007, 06:20:16 PM
Hey . . . those of you who recommended biolage . . .

Thanks.

I think I've found a winner!!! :)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 26, 2007, 07:18:48 PM
lol me neither..

OSA i thought u were a guy when i first came on the board too.. back when u were under the other moniker.. maybe it's the tone and sarcasm.. at least that was my opinion back in the day til we chatted offboard

OSA and I should start a club or something.

nah i never would have thought u were a dude

I never though Wumpy was a dood either.  But I must admit...I thought OSA was one too for a good couple of months way back when.  But I think it's just a sign of how we've been socialized: someone who doesn't talk about handbags, shoes, hair, and boys all the time must be a guy...
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: SKW on July 27, 2007, 07:31:08 AM
Looking back...

OSA, I saw you!

HAHA I peeped his comment too!

OSA is a she.  On TV, she would be played by Aunt Esther.

I initially thought OSA was a dude too...not due to the lack of talking about handbags, shoes, hair...etc. because I hadn't read many posts on here at that time to gather that. IDK...just an impression.   :-[
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 29, 2007, 02:52:37 PM
eh. If you read a convo btw two ppl, usually you can tell the gender of the speakers pretty quickly.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: One Step Ahead on July 29, 2007, 02:52:51 PM
I can't believe people are still talking about this.  ok I'm a guy in drag....moving on.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on July 29, 2007, 03:03:23 PM
eh. If you read a convo btw two ppl, usually you can tell the gender of the speakers pretty quickly.

I agree with this. But it's not because the woman always talks about clothes, purses, and hair. That's a mad sexist assumption.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on July 29, 2007, 03:43:27 PM
eh. If you read a convo btw two ppl, usually you can tell the gender of the speakers pretty quickly.

I agree with this. But it's not because the woman always talks about clothes, purses, and hair. That's a mad sexist assumption.

no its not.

ETA. nvm... you said always. but women do talk about those things.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on July 31, 2007, 07:03:21 AM
Oh, and this was back in the day, but yeah, pretty much everyone on the OTB used to think I was a guy.

LOL ppl thought i was an old, fat, white guy when I came to the board- a whole thread was dedicated to it :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 31, 2007, 07:04:38 AM
Lol where?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on July 31, 2007, 07:23:50 AM
Lol where?

 :D  like a year ago-  I started the thread.  "I'm not a white guy" or something to that effect.  Then it got buck wild and I had to lock down the thread.  Posted a far away picture just to prove that I was in fact a young, black, woman. :D  LOL-  that's how me and red became cool.  And was also my n00b intro to the wiles of LP.   :o :D ;)   
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on July 31, 2007, 07:33:04 AM
Lol I vaguely remember that.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on July 31, 2007, 09:36:54 PM
Its great.  My hair has never been so soft in the back, even after straightening. I'm sold! :)

Hey . . . those of you who recommended biolage . . .

Thanks.

I think I've found a winner!!! :)

(just saw this)

Woohoo!  It's awesome, right?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on August 26, 2007, 06:01:18 AM
This is gonna sound really stupid of me but: I never knew that there was such a thing as a “dred weave”.  Like I don’t mean an extension but this thing looked like a full headed dred weave.  I was looking at a pic in a hair magazine and they had this very beautiful almost regal-looking woman with very distinct features but her head looked like a mop.  Wasn’t pretty at all.  And u know how u can tell if someone has a (bad) full head weave by looking at the hairline/scalp area and it looks like your 3-yr old cousin just glued hair on top of their head?  Well, she looked like someone just glued a mop just right on her head with Krazy glue.  I thought all dreds were natural.     :-\
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on August 26, 2007, 06:03:27 AM
Well, she looked like someone just glued a mop just right on her head with Krazy glue.

 :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on August 26, 2007, 08:08:39 AM
erykah badu had fake locks.. i think lauryn hill did as well at one point..

This is gonna sound really stupid of me but: I never knew that there was such a thing as a “dred weave”.  Like I don’t mean an extension but this thing looked like a full headed dred weave.  I was looking at a pic in a hair magazine and they had this very beautiful almost regal-looking woman with very distinct features but her head looked like a mop.  Wasn’t pretty at all.  And u know how u can tell if someone has a (bad) full head weave by looking at the hairline/scalp area and it looks like your 3-yr old cousin just glued hair on top of their head?  Well, she looked like someone just glued a mop just right on her head with Krazy glue.  I thought all dreds were natural.     :-\
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on August 26, 2007, 08:13:07 AM
Lol I should buy some, wear them home, and watch people's mouths drop.  "Lawd, dat boy done loss his mind up nawth.  We need to lay hands on him to cass out that demon!  Hope he ain't caught the gay like Cam did when he got them dredlockuhs."
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on August 26, 2007, 08:16:56 AM
the very thought of u with more hair on your head than you currently have cracks me up.. i can't even imagine.. but yeah they'd die in your hometown lol... i remember some of the old folks were flipping out over my fro in undergrad...

Lol I should buy some, wear them home, and watch people's mouths drop.  "Lawd, dat boy done loss his mind up nawth.  We need to lay hands on him to cass out that demon!  Hope he ain't caught the gay like Cam did when he got them dredlockuhs."
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on August 26, 2007, 08:19:04 AM
I used to have a high-top fade back in the day 8).

They've slowly come around to fros and braids...I think they'd more readily accept locks on women b/c they are similar to braids.  But men?  Not a chance.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on August 26, 2007, 12:48:11 PM
REALLY?  Well, damn. my bad then.   :)

erykah badu had fake locks.. i think lauryn hill did as well at one point..

This is gonna sound really stupid of me but: I never knew that there was such a thing as a “dred weave”.  Like I don’t mean an extension but this thing looked like a full headed dred weave.  I was looking at a pic in a hair magazine and they had this very beautiful almost regal-looking woman with very distinct features but her head looked like a mop.  Wasn’t pretty at all.  And u know how u can tell if someone has a (bad) full head weave by looking at the hairline/scalp area and it looks like your 3-yr old cousin just glued hair on top of their head?  Well, she looked like someone just glued a mop just right on her head with Krazy glue.  I thought all dreds were natural.     :-\
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on September 06, 2007, 06:54:11 AM
Need ur help, ladies.  Lately, every time I get stressed out, my body turns red and gets itchy. My face, arms, legs, back, everything. Regular lotion doesn't help.  And it's pretty noticable.  My roommate comes home and can automatically tell something's up because I look like a tomato.  Any deep lotions you can suggest thay don't smell like my grandma's closet?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on September 06, 2007, 06:58:09 AM
Need ur help, ladies.  Lately, every time I get stressed out, my body turns red and gets itchy. My face, arms, legs, back, everything. Regular lotion doesn't help.  And it's pretty noticable.  My roommate comes home and can automatically tell something's up because I look like a tomato.  Any deep lotions you can suggest thay don't smell like my grandma's closet?

Your best bet is an antihistamine (piriton is british, but I think the US equivalent might be benadril).  If an OTC product doesn't help, you might wanna talk to a doctor or dermatologist.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on September 06, 2007, 06:59:23 AM
is it financially feasible for you to go to a dermatologist? i use cetaphil when my face becomes flaky from stress.. also drink lots of water.. but since it's the majority of your body.. you really need to make an appt..

Need ur help, ladies.  Lately, every time I get stressed out, my body turns red and gets itchy. My face, arms, legs, back, everything. Regular lotion doesn't help.  And it's pretty noticable.  My roommate comes home and can automatically tell something's up because I look like a tomato.  Any deep lotions you can suggest thay don't smell like my grandma's closet?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on September 06, 2007, 07:14:11 AM
nope not financially feasible to do much of anything right now :D   Cetaphil's a good idea.  Wasn't there a cetaphil for the whole body?

is it financially feasible for you to go to a dermatologist? i use cetaphil when my face becomes flaky from stress.. also drink lots of water.. but since it's the majority of your body.. you really need to make an appt..

Need ur help, ladies.  Lately, every time I get stressed out, my body turns red and gets itchy. My face, arms, legs, back, everything. Regular lotion doesn't help.  And it's pretty noticable.  My roommate comes home and can automatically tell something's up because I look like a tomato.  Any deep lotions you can suggest thay don't smell like my grandma's closet?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on September 06, 2007, 07:29:47 AM
i think there's a lotion.. what kind of soap are u using? you may need to get some non scented Purpose..comes in a blue box

nope not financially feasible to do much of anything right now :D   Cetaphil's a good idea.  Wasn't there a cetaphil for the whole body?

is it financially feasible for you to go to a dermatologist? i use cetaphil when my face becomes flaky from stress.. also drink lots of water.. but since it's the majority of your body.. you really need to make an appt..

Need ur help, ladies.  Lately, every time I get stressed out, my body turns red and gets itchy. My face, arms, legs, back, everything. Regular lotion doesn't help.  And it's pretty noticable.  My roommate comes home and can automatically tell something's up because I look like a tomato.  Any deep lotions you can suggest thay don't smell like my grandma's closet?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on September 06, 2007, 07:38:13 AM
I'll try it.  But it only happens when I get stressed...lol like some kind of lizard or something  :D

i think there's a lotion.. what kind of soap are u using? you may need to get some non scented Purpose..comes in a blue box

nope not financially feasible to do much of anything right now :D   Cetaphil's a good idea.  Wasn't there a cetaphil for the whole body?

is it financially feasible for you to go to a dermatologist? i use cetaphil when my face becomes flaky from stress.. also drink lots of water.. but since it's the majority of your body.. you really need to make an appt..

Need ur help, ladies.  Lately, every time I get stressed out, my body turns red and gets itchy. My face, arms, legs, back, everything. Regular lotion doesn't help.  And it's pretty noticable.  My roommate comes home and can automatically tell something's up because I look like a tomato.  Any deep lotions you can suggest thay don't smell like my grandma's closet?
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on September 06, 2007, 10:21:29 AM
Okay it's happening right now.  I'm tearing my skin apart!  It only stops when I calm down but it's kinda hard to chill when you look like a tomato.   
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on September 06, 2007, 10:30:20 AM
sounds like eczema
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on September 06, 2007, 10:36:02 AM
EWWWW.  Really?  I thought that exzema was just extremely dry skin.  It's fine if I'm calm but as soon as I get stressed, I feel like one big mosquito bite and I turn red & kinda blotchy.  Incredibly itchy.  As soon as I calm down, everything's fine.   Once it got really bad and I threw myself in the swimming pool.  Super cold showers work for a lil' while too.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: naturallybeyoutiful on September 06, 2007, 04:14:19 PM
Okay it's happening right now.  I'm tearing my skin apart!  It only stops when I calm down but it's kinda hard to chill when you look like a tomato.   

I have minor bouts with eczema whenever I get too much dairy. If you're that uncomfortable, you can talk to your doctor about your condition, as (s)he can prescribe a cream that will help the condition.  Most of all, try to pinpoint the cause of it though.  Did you change your routine at all?  (Disclaimer: I have neither the time nor energy to read past this page of the thread to see if you've already answered this question.  This is just my five-minute Contracts break.  ;) )
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on September 06, 2007, 04:58:02 PM
Okay it's happening right now.  I'm tearing my skin apart!  It only stops when I calm down but it's kinda hard to chill when you look like a tomato.   

I have minor bouts with eczema whenever I get too much dairy. If you're that uncomfortable, you can talk to your doctor about your condition, as (s)he can prescribe a cream that will help the condition.  Most of all, try to pinpoint the cause of it though.  Did you change your routine at all?  (Disclaimer: I have neither the time nor energy to read past this page of the thread to see if you've already answered this question.  This is just my five-minute Contracts break.  ;) )


It just seems to be stress.  I've been using the same lotions, soaps for like a year.  Like now, I'm not stressed and I'm fine.  But this afternoon, I was seriously going nuts and I got itchy and red all over.

Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: pikey on September 07, 2007, 08:08:21 AM
Okay it's happening right now.  I'm tearing my skin apart!  It only stops when I calm down but it's kinda hard to chill when you look like a tomato.   

I have minor bouts with eczema whenever I get too much dairy. If you're that uncomfortable, you can talk to your doctor about your condition, as (s)he can prescribe a cream that will help the condition.  Most of all, try to pinpoint the cause of it though.  Did you change your routine at all?  (Disclaimer: I have neither the time nor energy to read past this page of the thread to see if you've already answered this question.  This is just my five-minute Contracts break.  ;) )


It just seems to be stress.  I've been using the same lotions, soaps for like a year.  Like now, I'm not stressed and I'm fine.  But this afternoon, I was seriously going nuts and I got itchy and red all over.



Since the cause is internal, you're better off treating it internally with an antihistamine.  Of course you could always try various stress mgmt techniques.  Lotions/creams will prolly be the least effective way of treating it.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: cui bono? on September 07, 2007, 11:01:25 AM
Yeah I think you're right.  I put some stuff on it and then I was just one greasy-red-itchy- freaked out chick.   :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on September 07, 2007, 11:20:11 AM
u really need to go to the doc.. i agree with sarafina though

Yeah I think you're right.  I put some stuff on it and then I was just one greasy-red-itchy- freaked out chick.   :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: A. on September 07, 2007, 11:35:39 AM
lol @ the name change
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on September 07, 2007, 11:42:07 AM
 ;)

lol @ the name change
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: LadyKD on September 07, 2007, 12:08:08 PM
;)

lol @ the name change

That name change has made my day..I so needed that laugh!!!!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on September 07, 2007, 12:23:16 PM
lol @ the name change

yes...a genius name change that is! ;)
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on September 07, 2007, 12:29:45 PM
lol @ the name change

yes...a genius name change that is! ;)

you came up with it. transparent - purposefully so i bet.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: blk_reign on September 07, 2007, 12:33:39 PM
um.. no she didn't.. u ass


lol @ the name change

yes...a genius name change that is! ;)

you came up with it. transparent - purposefully so i bet.
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Statistic on September 07, 2007, 12:36:12 PM
um.. no she didn't.. u ass


lol @ the name change

yes...a genius name change that is! ;)

you came up with it. transparent - purposefully so i bet.

don't be so uppity, negress. my bad. calm down. lol
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: smujd2007 on September 07, 2007, 12:37:45 PM
Lol . . .

;)

lol @ the name change
Title: Re: The Hair Thread
Post by: Inquirer on September 14, 2007, 01:33:45 PM
I don't know if this was already posted, but it's an interesting article...

Cleary Gottlieb has a bad hair day
Vivia Chen/The American Lawyer
August 27, 2007

It seemed like a nice frothy summer treat for some hardworking gals at a hard-driving law firm. Instead of hosting another earnest discussion about client cultivation and leadership, the women lawyers group at Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton invited an editor from Glamour magazine. The topic: the dos and don'ts of corporate fashion.

First slide up: an African-American woman sporting an Afro. A real no-no, announced the Glamour editor to the 40 or so lawyers in the room. As for dreadlocks: How truly dreadful! The style maven said it was "shocking" that some people still think it "appropriate" to wear those hairstyles at the office. "No offense," she sniffed, but those "political" hairstyles really have to go.

By the time the lights flicked back on, some Cleary lawyers -- particularly the 10 or so African-American women in attendance -- were in a state of disbelief. "It was like she was saying you shouldn't go out with your natural hair, and if you do, you're making a political statement," says one African-American associate. "It showed a general cluelessness about black women and their hair."

The episode also produced a "mixed reaction" along racial lines, says this associate. "Some [whites] didn't understand what the big deal was ... but all the black associates saw the controversy."

Cleary Gottlieb's managing partner, Mark Walker, who heard about the incident from some of the attendees, also saw trouble. Soon after the event, Walker issued an e-mail that denounced the hair commentary as "racially insensitive, inappropriate, and wrong." Calling the beauty advice "appalling," Walker says, "You don't tell people that their physical appearance is unacceptable, when certain characteristics are associated with a racial group." He asks, "What's the alternative? Straighten or bleach your hair?"

As for the identity of the editor, neither Cleary Gottlieb nor Condé Nast Publications Inc. (publisher of Glamour) would say. Indeed, almost all of the half-dozen Glamour editors contacted for this story professed not to have ever set foot in a law firm. "Cleary what?" asked several.

And Walker says he has no idea whether the editor who sparked all this controversy is a well-known fashionista. Not that Walker would know, even if Anna Wintour herself crossed his path. "Who is she?" Walker asks. "I really don't know people in the fashion industry." (If you have to ask, she's the editor of Vogue.)

So did the Glamour editor realize how many feathers she ruffled? Walker says that the speaker was "spoken to by one of the women partners" and that she sent an e-mail apology. "I assume she was oblivious; I doubt she's racist," says Walker. "She wasn't thinking and said something hare-brained."

Or is that hair-brained?