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Deciding Where to Go => Choosing the Right Law School => Topic started by: b4sunrise on July 11, 2005, 06:09:26 PM

Title: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: b4sunrise on July 11, 2005, 06:09:26 PM
I would like to practice IP law in California after law school, preferentially San Diego. Which of these schools gives me the best opportunity? Hastings is cheaper (in-state tuition), has a big alumini network, and its IP seems pretty good. On the other hand, Georgetown is ranked higher and has a better national reputation.

What should I do? Have to make up my mind pretty soon. Any suggestion will be appreciated!
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: DodgerLaw on July 11, 2005, 06:33:06 PM
I don't really have an answer for you about which will give you a better shot at IP.

But I will say this: If you are from California and planning to live the rest of your life there, I would take the three years in D.C. You may never get another chance.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: b4sunrise on July 11, 2005, 07:04:28 PM
Thanks for the advise. Actually I have been moving around the country quite a bit, but never lived in D.C. I will certainly put it in consideration in determining my law school choice.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: Krisace on July 11, 2005, 08:10:55 PM
First of all forget about money because you'll borrow so much for living expenses anyways that a slight difference in tuition is immaterial.

You have a shot to go to Georgetown which is truly an incredible school.  While Hastings is also quite good (and in an area where IP is hot), and I could only wish I was able to have gotten in there, I would choose Georgetown.

Georgetown's name should be enough to allow you the mobility to move around the country.  It's an elite school and I would take it in an instant.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: ilsox7 on July 12, 2005, 02:54:07 AM
Hastings.  Both are great schools, no doubt.  But Georgetown doesn't have the "WOW" impact that, say, Harvard or Stanford does.  When you walk into an interview for your California IP job, it's much, much more likely that your interviewer will be a Hastings grad.  Common ground right off the bat makes landing the job that much easier.  Plus, living in the state (and maybe city) where you will practice is much preferred.  You can actually work part time at a firm during the year, pocket some extra cash, and more importantly netowrk at the firm, and other firms. 

One thing a lot of people on LSD overlook is the importance of being in the city, or darn close to the city, where you want to practice.  You know where you want to be, so it's advantageous for you to go to school there.  The bottom line, though, is you really cannot go wrong with either choice.  Georgetown may be fun b/c it will be nice being somehwere different than where you'll settle eventually.  But the logistics and perks that go with going to school where you want to practice would outweight that, for me.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: shotcaller on July 12, 2005, 10:43:16 AM
GULC. This shouldn't even be a question, there is NO comparison between the two. I don't care if GULC was ranked last in IP and Hastings first, or if the dream IP firm you wanted to work at was on the friggin Hastings campus itself, GULC is light years better and more prestigious than Hastings and your career (in any type of law you wish to practice) will undeniably benefit from this. Make the right choice - it shouldn't be too hard, given that it is painfully easy.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: b4sunrise on July 12, 2005, 11:48:12 AM
I get ilsox7's point and that's exactly why I'm still debating about this. Hastings is a very good school, despite of the ranking. Plus its reputation is high in california.

The only thing that worries me is I'd be competing with the graduates of boalt, stanford, ucla, t14 etc for the jobs. If I can't make to the top 25% of the class at hastings, I'm dead. For Georgetown, even if I don't do well, I think I'm still going to be ok. Is this a valid point?

Thanks all for your input.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: ilsox7 on July 12, 2005, 01:35:52 PM
I get ilsox7's point and that's exactly why I'm still debating about this. Hastings is a very good school, despite of the ranking. Plus its reputation is high in california.

The only thing that worries me is I'd be competing with the graduates of boalt, stanford, ucla, t14 etc for the jobs. If I can't make to the top 25% of the class at hastings, I'm dead. For Georgetown, even if I don't do well, I think I'm still going to be ok. Is this a valid point?

Thanks all for your input.

About reputation...yes, Hastings is VERY well thought of in Cali.  I'd venture to guess it's at least as highly thought of as Georgetown.  Sadly, some people around LSD simply cannot get over the fact that USNEWS isn't the be all and end all.  What a lot of people do not realize is that it's often much better to go to a very good "regional" school where you want to pracice rather than an excellent "national" school across the country from where you want to be.  Now, let's say law school doesn't go as planned and you don't make top 25%...so you're top half at Georgetown and top 65% at Hastings.  All you've proved, no matter what the outcome, is that you're a mediocre law student.  Now, being a mediocre law student, what would you rather have going for you?  Interviewing with partners and associates who went to your school and can "bond" with you over that?  Having the ability to do part time work throughout the school year so as to show a firm that even though you're not a great student you will be a great lawyer?  The ability to network constantly throughout 3 years in the city you want to practice?  Or move across the whole country, not knowing one lawyer in California, trying to find a job by saying, "Hey, I went to Georgetown!  I may have been a mediocre student there, but it's GEORGETOWN."

Methinks your best bet then is Hastings.  Again, you really can't go wrong with either choice.  But I'd venture to guess life would be easier by going to Hastings.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: DodgerLaw on July 12, 2005, 02:42:53 PM
Just for the record here, Hasting is in San Francisco whereas this guy wants to practice in San Diego. Same state, but still considerable distance.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: s9120 on July 12, 2005, 07:48:28 PM
Sorry for going a bit off-topic. Since you are interested in IP law I will assume you (or maybe someone out there reading this) have a technical background. Technical background as in a science or engineering degree. For IP law, your undergrad is just as important as your law degree. Work experience prior to law school is a HUGE bonus. Making the top 25% in Hastings or any school isn't as important in this field of law (it is important but not as important as other areas). So if you have a technical undergrad and some decent relevant work experience, the law school you choose (or choosing the wrong one) won't affect you as much. I'm basically trying to say that if you fit this description you can't go wrong with Hastings or GT.

If you are an english major with no work experience and want to go into IP law, you better get your ass into GT.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: Julee Fern on July 12, 2005, 07:53:00 PM
I get ilsox7's point and that's exactly why I'm still debating about this. Hastings is a very good school, despite of the ranking. Plus its reputation is high in california.

The only thing that worries me is I'd be competing with the graduates of boalt, stanford, ucla, t14 etc for the jobs. If I can't make to the top 25% of the class at hastings, I'm dead. For Georgetown, even if I don't do well, I think I'm still going to be ok. Is this a valid point?

Thanks all for your input.

About reputation...yes, Hastings is VERY well thought of in Cali.  I'd venture to guess it's at least as highly thought of as Georgetown.  Sadly, some people around LSD simply cannot get over the fact that USNEWS isn't the be all and end all.  What a lot of people do not realize is that it's often much better to go to a very good "regional" school where you want to pracice rather than an excellent "national" school across the country from where you want to be.  Now, let's say law school doesn't go as planned and you don't make top 25%...so you're top half at Georgetown and top 65% at Hastings.  All you've proved, no matter what the outcome, is that you're a mediocre law student.  Now, being a mediocre law student, what would you rather have going for you?  Interviewing with partners and associates who went to your school and can "bond" with you over that?  Having the ability to do part time work throughout the school year so as to show a firm that even though you're not a great student you will be a great lawyer?  The ability to network constantly throughout 3 years in the city you want to practice?  Or move across the whole country, not knowing one lawyer in California, trying to find a job by saying, "Hey, I went to Georgetown!  I may have been a mediocre student there, but it's GEORGETOWN."

Methinks your best bet then is Hastings.  Again, you really can't go wrong with either choice.  But I'd venture to guess life would be easier by going to Hastings.


Just to note: 

Someone who can place in the top half at a school like Georgetown or Hastings isn't exactly a medicore law student.  They're probably a pretty decent law student.  Keep in mind the competition levels at these schools.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: ilsox7 on July 12, 2005, 08:44:07 PM
Just to note:

Someone who can place in the top half at a school like Georgetown or Hastings isn't exactly a medicore law student.  They're probably a pretty decent law student.  Keep in mind the competition levels at these schools.


Very true.  A poor characterization on my part.  I should have stated "an average law student relative to the competition." 

Both schools are terrific and just gaining admittance is an accomplishment in itself.  That is why the OP really cannot make a bad choice...just maybe a very good choice and an excellent choice.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: bruin on July 13, 2005, 10:53:07 PM
Georgetown.

Hastings does have a reputation above it's USNWR standing in CA, but the schools are not considered equal here.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: SK2002 on July 15, 2005, 12:37:43 PM

Personally speaking, I would choose Georgetown. This has nothing to do w/the fact that i'm on the Hastings  waitlist. Georgetown has a nationally recognized name, that practicing in CA will not be a problem. The resources and opportunities at Georgetown is worth it. Money is a big issue, but you will be in debt either way. The brand name does matter a whole lot. My good friends from Columbia law schools would not have had the jobs they had if they went to second tier. Georgetown is top tier dude. Basically, unless you do top of the class at Hastings, I would be hard pressed to switch that over Georgetown. I would jump at the chance to go to Georgetown. Have you decided?

Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: b4sunrise on July 15, 2005, 04:31:47 PM

Personally speaking, I would choose Georgetown. This has nothing to do w/the fact that i'm on the Hastings  waitlist. Georgetown has a nationally recognized name, that practicing in CA will not be a problem. The resources and opportunities at Georgetown is worth it. Money is a big issue, but you will be in debt either way. The brand name does matter a whole lot. My good friends from Columbia law schools would not have had the jobs they had if they went to second tier. Georgetown is top tier dude. Basically, unless you do top of the class at Hastings, I would be hard pressed to switch that over Georgetown. I would jump at the chance to go to Georgetown. Have you decided?



Just withdraw from Hastings after some serious debate. Hope this will help your chance of getting in there, it's a great school. Good luck!
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: HawkEye on July 15, 2005, 08:39:07 PM
Hastings.  Both are great schools, no doubt.  But Georgetown doesn't have the "WOW" impact that, say, Harvard or Stanford does.  When you walk into an interview for your California IP job, it's much, much more likely that your interviewer will be a Hastings grad.  Common ground right off the bat makes landing the job that much easier.  Plus, living in the state (and maybe city) where you will practice is much preferred.  You can actually work part time at a firm during the year, pocket some extra cash, and more importantly netowrk at the firm, and other firms. 

One thing a lot of people on LSD overlook is the importance of being in the city, or darn close to the city, where you want to practice.  You know where you want to be, so it's advantageous for you to go to school there.  The bottom line, though, is you really cannot go wrong with either choice.  Georgetown may be fun b/c it will be nice being somehwere different than where you'll settle eventually.  But the logistics and perks that go with going to school where you want to practice would outweight that, for me.

I have to disagree.  You might be just saying that because you don't goto a T14 school.   
A better comparison is UCLA and GULC.  This is a tougher choice because you are doing L.A. vs. DC/NY; cheap-tuition vs. expensive; near 14 vs. T-14.  Hasting??  Hell no. 

Hastings vs. Davis is a better comparison.  Even USC rules Hasting.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: dave303 on July 15, 2005, 08:48:11 PM
There is no question here. Even if you want to work in San Francisco. Hastings has a good reputation but you still need to be top 10% for the biglaw jobs. You will be able to get the same jobs going to georgetown with a much much lower class rank. Don't ever assume where you will be in the class.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: ilsox7 on July 16, 2005, 01:44:38 AM
Hastings.  Both are great schools, no doubt.  But Georgetown doesn't have the "WOW" impact that, say, Harvard or Stanford does.  When you walk into an interview for your California IP job, it's much, much more likely that your interviewer will be a Hastings grad.  Common ground right off the bat makes landing the job that much easier.  Plus, living in the state (and maybe city) where you will practice is much preferred.  You can actually work part time at a firm during the year, pocket some extra cash, and more importantly netowrk at the firm, and other firms. 

One thing a lot of people on LSD overlook is the importance of being in the city, or darn close to the city, where you want to practice.  You know where you want to be, so it's advantageous for you to go to school there.  The bottom line, though, is you really cannot go wrong with either choice.  Georgetown may be fun b/c it will be nice being somehwere different than where you'll settle eventually.  But the logistics and perks that go with going to school where you want to practice would outweight that, for me.

I have to disagree.  You might be just saying that because you don't goto a T14 school.   
A better comparison is UCLA and GULC.  This is a tougher choice because you are doing L.A. vs. DC/NY; cheap-tuition vs. expensive; near 14 vs. T-14.  Hasting??  Hell no. 

Hastings vs. Davis is a better comparison.  Even USC rules Hasting.

Funny how you assume you know where I go to school.  I am just giving a different perspective that what most of LSD will give...and sadly for most of LSD...you really are clueless when it comes to jobs and schools.  Your top 14 myth that you keep speaking of is just that, a myth.  Wake up and start talking to lawyers in the cities you want to work in.  Most, if not all, will have no idea what you are talking about when you say top 14. 
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: jdw112 on July 16, 2005, 03:44:27 AM
How to determine where you should go:

-If you are into prestige, consider it here. Noty everyone cares about prestige. Decide who you are.

-If you like the idea of national mobility, please consider it here.  You may want to ask yourself this: "Am I certain that I want to tie myself to location X". If you know you want to be in a certain place, do what you consider most reasonable to get there.

-Look at employment %'s for each program.

-Look at salary figures for each program.

-Look at OCI firms for each program. See who is getting the big dogs on campus. Take note of which firms they have in common, and also those they don't.

-Speak to career services for both schools, ask them what % of the class usually lands biglaw/whatever it is you care about.

-Visit some of those legal directories (Nalp/Martindale, I forget which everyone uses) and see if grads are present at firms in the locations you desire. If school X is in the same state and has 4 grads, and school Y is 3000 miles away and has 3, this may indicate something. Infer whatever you like. Not that this will be the case, but look out for interesting numbers.

-Balance scholarships against career opportunities.

If someone has some other suggestions, feel free to include them. Upon doing this, the decision should be crystal clear.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: HawkEye on July 16, 2005, 09:57:16 PM
Hastings.  Both are great schools, no doubt.  But Georgetown doesn't have the "WOW" impact that, say, Harvard or Stanford does.  When you walk into an interview for your California IP job, it's much, much more likely that your interviewer will be a Hastings grad.  Common ground right off the bat makes landing the job that much easier.  Plus, living in the state (and maybe city) where you will practice is much preferred.  You can actually work part time at a firm during the year, pocket some extra cash, and more importantly netowrk at the firm, and other firms. 

One thing a lot of people on LSD overlook is the importance of being in the city, or darn close to the city, where you want to practice.  You know where you want to be, so it's advantageous for you to go to school there.  The bottom line, though, is you really cannot go wrong with either choice.  Georgetown may be fun b/c it will be nice being somehwere different than where you'll settle eventually.  But the logistics and perks that go with going to school where you want to practice would outweight that, for me.

I have to disagree.  You might be just saying that because you don't goto a T14 school.   
A better comparison is UCLA and GULC.  This is a tougher choice because you are doing L.A. vs. DC/NY; cheap-tuition vs. expensive; near 14 vs. T-14.  Hasting??  Hell no. 

Hastings vs. Davis is a better comparison.  Even USC rules Hasting.

Funny how you assume you know where I go to school.  I am just giving a different perspective that what most of LSD will give...and sadly for most of LSD...you really are clueless when it comes to jobs and schools.  Your top 14 myth that you keep speaking of is just that, a myth.  Wake up and start talking to lawyers in the cities you want to work in.  Most, if not all, will have no idea what you are talking about when you say top 14. 

So which law school you got in to??
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: dave303 on July 17, 2005, 08:41:05 PM

The above is painfully stupid. 

Now, while Georgetown has a better national name, it is not necessarily a better school for what you want to practice, where you want to practice it.  Spending substantially more money to go there and live in DC when you will probably end up back in California with the same job you would have gotten otherwise doesn't make a lot of sense.  I don't really know much about Hastings' placement in CA, but I don't think either choice will hurt you, and unless you're very concerned with your school having a national brand-name, I don't think G'Town will really help you. 

He wants to practice IP law in southern california. His chances of getting there with a Georgetown JD are far higher than with a Hastings one. The extra couple thousand dollars in tuition will be meaningless considering the higher earnings potential. There's nothing 'painfully stupid' about it.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: toraneko on July 18, 2005, 04:07:20 PM
Hastings was once ranked 19th in 1993.

as Bay area economy recovers, hastings ranking will go up again.

This is the oldest L-school west of M River.

 
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: HawkEye on July 19, 2005, 11:45:31 AM
Hastings was once ranked 19th in 1993.

as Bay area economy recovers, hastings ranking will go up again.

This is the oldest L-school west of M River.

 

oh ic.  Was that 19th on the U.S. News Week??  Back then, were they ranked higher than USC??
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: Ambs on July 19, 2005, 12:03:58 PM
I'm going to Hastings and think it has a great reputation is SF, and probably in CA in general. It doesn't rank as high as other UC law schools at the moment, but it is the oldest of them all, and has ranked higher at other times.

Still - I'd tell the OP to choose G-town. I just think it has a better national reputation and history/prestige associated with it. Of course, if he's really drawn to Hastings IP program, maybe that's a compelling reason to go there, but I don't think G-town would be in any way detrimental to finding a job in CA. I'd bet they have an awesome west coast alumni network, and with a little work, a name like g-town should get you in the door at most top firms.

Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: toraneko on July 19, 2005, 06:12:34 PM
USNews 1991
1991   1991

1   Yale
2   Harvard
3   Chicago
4   Stanford
5   Columbia
6   Michigan
7   NYU
8   UVA
9   Duke
10   Penn

11   Georgetown

12   Berkeley
13   Cornell
14   Northwestern
15   UT Austin

16   USC

17   Vanderbilt

18   UCLA

19   Univ. of Iowa

20   UC Hastings

21   Wisconsin
22   George Washington
22   Minnesota
24   Notre Dame
24   UNC Chapel Hill
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: toraneko on July 19, 2005, 06:14:23 PM
1992   1992

1   Yale
2   Harvard
3   Stanford
4   Chicago
5   Columbia
6   Michigan
7   NYU
8   UVA
9   Duke
10   Penn

11   Georgetown

12   Berkeley
13   Northwestern
14   Cornell
15   UT
16   Vanderbilt

17   UCLA

18   USC

19   UC Hastings

20   Notre Dame
21   Minnesota
22   Boston College
22   Univ. of Washington
24   George Washington
25   Iowa
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: toraneko on July 19, 2005, 06:16:05 PM
1993   1993

1   Yale
2   Harvard
3   Stanford
4   Chicago
5   Columbia
6   NYU
7   Michigan
8   UVA
9   Duke
10   Georgetown
11   Penn
12   Berkeley
13   Northwestern
14   Cornell
15   UT
16   Vanderbilt

17   UCLA

18   USC

19   Boston College
20   Notre Dame
21   George Washington
22   Wisconsin

23   UC Hastings

23   Iowa
25   Minnesota
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: toraneko on July 19, 2005, 06:17:39 PM
Hasting was ranked higher than U texas

1994   1994

1   Yale
2   Harvard
3   Stanford
4   Chicago
5   Columbia
6   NYU
7   Duke
8   Michigan
9   Penn
10   Berkeley
11   Cornell
12   Northwestern

13   Georgetown

14   UVA
15   Vanderbilt

16   UCLA

17   Minnesota

18   USC

19   Iowa

20   UC Hastings

21   UT

22   Emory
22   Washington & Lee
24   Boston College
25   Univ. of Washington

Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: HawkEye on July 19, 2005, 07:39:13 PM
Hasting was ranked higher than U texas

1994   1994

1   Yale
2   Harvard
3   Stanford
4   Chicago
5   Columbia
6   NYU
7   Duke
8   Michigan
9   Penn
10   Berkeley
11   Cornell
12   Northwestern

13   Georgetown

14   UVA
15   Vanderbilt

16   UCLA

17   Minnesota

18   USC

19   Iowa

20   UC Hastings

21   UT

22   Emory
22   Washington & Lee
24   Boston College
25   Univ. of Washington



Please give us the website where I can find 96 and on.  If you can't then can you please provide the list.  thank you.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: kristay on July 19, 2005, 09:05:19 PM
As a San Francisco native, I would still choose Georgetown over Hastings.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: Guy Incognito on July 19, 2005, 09:17:45 PM
Are we talking equal cost here or does the OP have a scholarship to Hastings?

edit:  oops, i see he/she said in state so Hastings is cheaper. 
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: dave303 on July 20, 2005, 02:42:21 PM
you can find all the rankings on the yahoo group called law school rankings I think, just go to yahoo groups and search for it
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: btideroll on July 23, 2005, 07:56:27 AM
I'm constantly amazed at this common attitude floating around the boards.

Just because the school is dubbed "higher" by USNEWS doesn't make it the be all end all. Competition is high in law school period whether it seems that way or not. It will be even more competitive in "lower" ranked schools since students know they must do well if they wish to travel.

That being said a student at 50% at a "higher" ranked school doesn't mean he is ANY smarter than anyone else at a lower ranked school. It just means he a) maybe had a higher LSAT (which in itself has too many factors involved to worry about) b) was possibly a URM c) maybe was a legacy d) had a good personal statement.

The whole RANKING bs needs to stop. Cost of living in the areas where you "make more money" basically reduces the "prestige" to the same playing field as all other schools. Society is too obsessed with NAMES.

Personally, I believe people should look at programs and placement statistics and decide where they want to practice instead of doing something insane like changing their whole life, stressing themself out, moving across country to go to a "higher" ranked school just to find out it isn't what it seems to be.

ilsox7 is probably one of the wisest posters I've seen on these delusional boards. The bottom line is go to a school thats reasonable, where you enjoy yourself and are comfortable, that has a program you are interested in, and that has feasible networking in the area where you want to practice. Sure if you go to the extreme "top" schools you can probably travel where you want to go, but sometimes that may not be worth the toll it takes on your debt, stress, and comfort. That being said, other than the extreme top, I wouldn't waste my time getting caught up with "prestige" and would instead focus on the best possible outcome taking all factors into consideration.


To end the rant--I would chose Hastings if I were you.



I get ilsox7's point and that's exactly why I'm still debating about this. Hastings is a very good school, despite of the ranking. Plus its reputation is high in california.

The only thing that worries me is I'd be competing with the graduates of boalt, stanford, ucla, t14 etc for the jobs. If I can't make to the top 25% of the class at hastings, I'm dead. For Georgetown, even if I don't do well, I think I'm still going to be ok. Is this a valid point?

Thanks all for your input.

About reputation...yes, Hastings is VERY well thought of in Cali.  I'd venture to guess it's at least as highly thought of as Georgetown.  Sadly, some people around LSD simply cannot get over the fact that USNEWS isn't the be all and end all.  What a lot of people do not realize is that it's often much better to go to a very good "regional" school where you want to pracice rather than an excellent "national" school across the country from where you want to be.  Now, let's say law school doesn't go as planned and you don't make top 25%...so you're top half at Georgetown and top 65% at Hastings.  All you've proved, no matter what the outcome, is that you're a mediocre law student.  Now, being a mediocre law student, what would you rather have going for you?  Interviewing with partners and associates who went to your school and can "bond" with you over that?  Having the ability to do part time work throughout the school year so as to show a firm that even though you're not a great student you will be a great lawyer?  The ability to network constantly throughout 3 years in the city you want to practice?  Or move across the whole country, not knowing one lawyer in California, trying to find a job by saying, "Hey, I went to Georgetown!  I may have been a mediocre student there, but it's GEORGETOWN."

Methinks your best bet then is Hastings.  Again, you really can't go wrong with either choice.  But I'd venture to guess life would be easier by going to Hastings.


Just to note: 

Someone who can place in the top half at a school like Georgetown or Hastings isn't exactly a medicore law student.  They're probably a pretty decent law student.  Keep in mind the competition levels at these schools.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: toraneko on July 24, 2005, 08:38:11 PM
Will be in the top 20 again.


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Hastings Begins Search for New Dean to Replace Chancellor and Dean Mary Kay Kane Upon Her Return to the Faculty

Hastings is pleased to announce the commencement of the search for a new Dean. The new Dean will succeed Chancellor & Dean Mary Kay Kane, who has served Hastings with great distinction for over 28 years, with over 12 years as Chancellor and Dean. Hastings has been well-served by her leadership and devotion to the school, and we will miss her stewardship greatly. Two years ago, Mary Kay announced her decision to retire from the Chancellorship after the 2005-2006 academic year, at which time she will return to her position as a Distinguished Professor of Law. This past Spring, the Board of Directors, in consultation with the faculty, appointed a Committee of Board Members and Faculty to begin the search for Mary Kay's successor. It is thus with mixed emotions that the Committee assumes its task. We are deeply grateful for all Mary Kay has accomplished, and we are very excited by the prospect of finding the most qualified person to lead Hastings as it continues to build and improve on its very solid foundation.
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: HawkEye on July 25, 2005, 09:46:40 AM
It some how doesn't sound right to me that someone will goto Hastings over Georgetown even for IP.  I don't really no the salience of those specializations since Pepeperdine University is number on is dispute resolution, above stanford, NW, Harvard, and GT. 
Also, according to my 2003 USNEWS Hastings is not even mentioned under top IP law school. 

Hastings will have a hard time beating USC, let alone getting into T20.  I would choose it over Davis but not over USC.  I would choose UCLA over USC anyday.  Between UCLA and GULC, I would chooce GT but somepeople might have good rasons to choose UCLA.

GULC and Hastings are not comparable.   
Title: Re: Hastings or Georgetown?
Post by: SkullTatt on July 27, 2005, 06:20:58 PM
One thing nobody has mentioned is that when you are in LS, you are doing clinicals, externships, and meeting tons of people in the legal community. It seems kind of sucky to go somewhere for 3 years, then move 3,000 miles away and lose all that.

I don't have an easy answer as to which school you should pick, and I don't think anybody on this board does. Georgetown has the better rep, but your Hastings contacts will be closer geographically, and it's in the state where you want to practice. You are going to have to throw darts and choose one.