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Title: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Fabyahluss on May 22, 2005, 07:57:54 PM
Hey guys,

I just finished reading one of the greatest fun reads ever. It was a fiction novel by Kimbera Lawson Roby called A Taste of Reality. It discussed two contraversial topics in a very intriguing manner: discrimination in a predominately white firm and interracial dating on numerous counts.

I haven't read any fun, easy books for over a year, and now I'm extremely eager to get my hands on something else now that I finished this one in less than 24 hours. Does anyone have any fav novels that'll help my brain to continue to unwind post final exams/graduation?  If so, post 'em here!
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on May 22, 2005, 08:16:57 PM
This is a super-fun read!  I love this!
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1401352197/002-1858175-9220043?v=glance

And this is a powerful book but fun and quick read: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0142001740/qid=1116814450/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-1858175-9220043?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Fabyahluss on May 23, 2005, 11:26:47 PM
So NOBODY else in this piece reads except Mobell?!?! Common folks...
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Lexington on May 24, 2005, 01:48:39 AM
I wouldn't call any of the stuff I'm reading right now fun.  Maybe in a few weeks I'll have more to contribute...  Give it some time, I'm sure your thread will pick up a bit when everyone's done with finals  :)
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: elegantpearl01 on May 24, 2005, 05:07:36 AM
I stopped reading for pleasure years ago...all I have time to read aside from work documents are magazines. I still have Bill and Hillary Clinton's respective biographies to finish up this summer. 

I did recently read "Trophy Man" that was a good book. I'm itching to read the new Dr. Cornel West book.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: faith2005 on May 24, 2005, 07:55:26 AM
i read allllll the time. and since i'm not in school, i've had a good excuse. my books aren't that fun though, but they are fiction.

the last book I read was Cane River. It was excellent, but not exactly fun since its about slavery. i recently read Gotham Diaries by Tonya Lewis Lee and that was good, but it is like a few months old now, so maybe you read it already. I was going to take out one of Pearl Cleage's novels, Babylon Sisters, i think that'll be a good book. also my friend loves the devil wears prada, she said its hilarious. Have you read any Edwidge Danticat? I love her novels and I look forward to re-reading them over the summer. I think Krik? Krak! is my favorite book of short stories after Toni Cade Bambara's. And I haven't read The Dew Breaker, so I am now pretty motivated to order it from half.com. SWB--WHY DID YOU CREATE THIS THREAD?? LOL! Can you tell I concentrated in literature?  :D Also, I think that if you haven't read Just Above my head, by James Baldwin (i don't think its as well-known as some of his others) then you should read it, esp. if you have siblings and are the oldest. that book is like 500 pages, but I think I stopped every 30 pages and took a break, it was that deep.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/067976657X/qid=1116942376/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i4_xgl14/104-9381225-5943102?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1401308023/qid=1116942037/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/104-9381225-5943102?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0446678457/qid=1116942642/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/104-9381225-5943102?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345456092/qid=1116941961/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-9381225-5943102

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767914767/qid=1116942758/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/104-9381225-5943102?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Bluenine on May 24, 2005, 07:59:21 AM
Two good books that I read recently were Memoirs of a Geisha and Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil.  I highly recommend both.

Another good read is Devil in the White City.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on May 24, 2005, 08:12:25 AM
I just started reading The Conscience of a Liberal: Reclaiming the Compassionate Agenda (instead of writing the first chap. of my thesis, which is due on Friday. :-[). This is an easy and awesome read, esp. for you progressives out there: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/081664179X/ref=pd_sxp_f/002-1858175-9220043?v=glance&s=books

I highly recommend the Wellstone! movie for people who are into grassroots politics (it ain't a book but matches the above-mentioned book well): http://www.carryitforward.org/
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Boston24 on May 24, 2005, 09:27:01 AM
Two good books that I read recently were Memoirs of a Geisha and Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil.  I highly recommend both.

Another good read is Devil in the White City.

I'm in the middle of Memoirs of a Geisha right now and I love it.  Also good - A Fine Balance and The Kiterunner. 

I think I'm going to read Devil in the White City next!  I've heard such good things about it. 
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Abevigoda on May 24, 2005, 09:29:24 AM
Positively Fifth Street by James MacManus is positively great!  It's about the world series of poker and how this journalist covering the world series managed to win himself a seat at the final table.  Really good.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Fabyahluss on May 24, 2005, 10:04:12 PM
I read The Devil Wears Prada a couple of year ago, and it was okay. However, if I'm gonna read fiction, I love reading fiction books by black authors. The topics are often so much more intriguing for me, particularly because I can often relate to a lot of the stuff in there. I wish I hadn't read The Coldest Winter Ever so that I could read it again as if it was the first time. I was tempted to buy No Disrespect by Sister Souljah but I just couldn't get down with the way that the themes in her book seemed to be separated by the different people in her life-it just seemed to disconnected. It kinda reminded me of the movie Crash, if you've seen it.

Which of those books that you suggested are by Black authors?

i read allllll the time. and since i'm not in school, i've had a good excuse. my books aren't that fun though, but they are fiction.

the last book I read was Cane River. It was excellent, but not exactly fun since its about slavery. i recently read Gotham Diaries by Tonya Lewis Lee and that was good, but it is like a few months old now, so maybe you read it already. I was going to take out one of Pearl Cleage's novels, Babylon Sisters, i think that'll be a good book. also my friend loves the devil wears prada, she said its hilarious. Have you read any Edwidge Danticat? I love her novels and I look forward to re-reading them over the summer. I think Krik? Krak! is my favorite book of short stories after Toni Cade Bambara's. And I haven't read The Dew Breaker, so I am now pretty motivated to order it from half.com. SWB--WHY DID YOU CREATE THIS THREAD?? LOL! Can you tell I concentrated in literature?  :D Also, I think that if you haven't read Just Above my head, by James Baldwin (i don't think its as well-known as some of his others) then you should read it, esp. if you have siblings and are the oldest. that book is like 500 pages, but I think I stopped every 30 pages and took a break, it was that deep.

Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Fabyahluss on May 24, 2005, 10:09:28 PM
I wouldn't call any of the stuff I'm reading right now fun.  Maybe in a few weeks I'll have more to contribute...  Give it some time, I'm sure your thread will pick up a bit when everyone's done with finals  :)

That's the thing, most people on here ARE done with finals, if they're even in school at all. They're just bein lazy asses. :P . But the folks who have contributed so far have given me some good ideas, so off to amazon I go...
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Lexington on May 24, 2005, 10:13:27 PM
I read The Devil Wears Prada a couple of year ago, and it was okay. However, if I'm gonna read fiction, I love reading fiction books by black authors. The topics are often so much more intriguing for me, particularly because I can often relate to a lot of the stuff in there. I wish I hadn't read The Coldest Winter Ever so that I could read it again as if it was the first time. I was tempted to buy No Disrespect by Sister Souljah but I just couldn't get down with the way that the themes in her book seemed to be separated by the different people in her life-it just seemed to disconnected. It kinda reminded me of the movie Crash, if you've seen it.

Which of those books that you suggested are by Black authors?

You thought Crash was disconnected?  I thought they did an excellent job of showing how the people's lives entertwined.  Coldest Winter Ever is actually one of my favorite books and I'm not one for black authors.  Also liked EJD's Between Lovers.  That one's strictly for the freak in you, though  ;)
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Fabyahluss on May 24, 2005, 10:26:53 PM
I read The Devil Wears Prada a couple of year ago, and it was okay. However, if I'm gonna read fiction, I love reading fiction books by black authors. The topics are often so much more intriguing for me, particularly because I can often relate to a lot of the stuff in there. I wish I hadn't read The Coldest Winter Ever so that I could read it again as if it was the first time. I was tempted to buy No Disrespect by Sister Souljah but I just couldn't get down with the way that the themes in her book seemed to be separated by the different people in her life-it just seemed to disconnected. It kinda reminded me of the movie Crash, if you've seen it.

Which of those books that you suggested are by Black authors?

You thought Crash was disconnected?  I thought they did an excellent job of showing how the people's lives entertwined.  Coldest Winter Ever is actually one of my favorite books and I'm not one for black authors.  Also liked EJD's Between Lovers.  That one's strictly for the freak in you, though  ;)

LOL that's exactly what my BF said. But yeah, I thought it was disconnected because although the characters within the movie were related in one way or another, I didn't like the way that there were several overarching themes in the movie. And I understand the fact that the main point of the movie was to illustrate the prejudice that people from different backgrounds harbor, but I still wasn't feelin how the scenes jumped around from one major plot of the movie to another.

I was gettin my hair done the other day, and there was a lady next to me gettin some micro braids that take forever, so she was reading a book to pass the time. The girl doin her hair was like, "Damn girl, you've been readin that book for 8 hours straight. You sure can concentrate better than I can." I glanced to see what she was readin and the book was called somethin like Between Your Cheeks and had some ass shot of a girl in a g-string who was all caught up with some dude in bed. I wanted to bust out laughin and say "Yeah I bet she can concentrate..concentrate on gettin off." LMAO.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: faith2005 on May 25, 2005, 07:35:47 AM
My goodness, I should have been more specific, African American Studies with a concentration in literature. Everyone of those books, except for the devil wears prada is by a black author. I just started Dew Breaker by Edwidge Danticat and it already has me thinking.

Sister Souljah is cool, I read both the coldest winter ever and no disrespect. i liked no disrespect, but I came away thinking, wow, she was really insecure. she had an affair witha married man, got taken for all of her $, stuff that I can't even imagine. the coldest winter ever was cool, but i didn't really enjoy it. it seemed like she was trying to hard to document this super ghetto girl's lifestyle. it didn't seem real to me. I liked Crash, but I thought the ending was a little too neat, liek everybody, except for Don Cheadle's character was able to redeem themselves and the white guy got away with murder! I feel like he should have committed suicide/quit his job or something to show remorse. Oh, and I have never read EJD's between lovers, is it like Zane? i have looked at the book covers and they always seemed a lil far-fetched. a person with a split personality, one a virgin and the other a super freak? thats a lil too weird.

Lexington--you're not one for black authors? what does that mean?

I read The Devil Wears Prada a couple of year ago, and it was okay. However, if I'm gonna read fiction, I love reading fiction books by black authors. The topics are often so much more intriguing for me, particularly because I can often relate to a lot of the stuff in there. I wish I hadn't read The Coldest Winter Ever so that I could read it again as if it was the first time. I was tempted to buy No Disrespect by Sister Souljah but I just couldn't get down with the way that the themes in her book seemed to be separated by the different people in her life-it just seemed to disconnected. It kinda reminded me of the movie Crash, if you've seen it.

Which of those books that you suggested are by Black authors?

i read allllll the time. and since i'm not in school, i've had a good excuse. my books aren't that fun though, but they are fiction.

the last book I read was Cane River. It was excellent, but not exactly fun since its about slavery. i recently read Gotham Diaries by Tonya Lewis Lee and that was good, but it is like a few months old now, so maybe you read it already. I was going to take out one of Pearl Cleage's novels, Babylon Sisters, i think that'll be a good book. also my friend loves the devil wears prada, she said its hilarious. Have you read any Edwidge Danticat? I love her novels and I look forward to re-reading them over the summer. I think Krik? Krak! is my favorite book of short stories after Toni Cade Bambara's. And I haven't read The Dew Breaker, so I am now pretty motivated to order it from half.com. SWB--WHY DID YOU CREATE THIS THREAD?? LOL! Can you tell I concentrated in literature?  :D Also, I think that if you haven't read Just Above my head, by James Baldwin (i don't think its as well-known as some of his others) then you should read it, esp. if you have siblings and are the oldest. that book is like 500 pages, but I think I stopped every 30 pages and took a break, it was that deep.

Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: blk_reign on May 25, 2005, 08:32:25 AM
Our Nig : or, Sketches from the Life of a Free Black
by Harriett E Wilson... (it's the first book to ever be published by a Black woman) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1400031206/qid=1117031170/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/002-2198953-8417610?v=glance&s=books&n=507846


Love Poems by Nikki Giovanni

Blues Dancing: A Novel
by Diane McKinney-Whetstone  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0688149952/qid=1117031078/sr=2-2/002-2198953-8417610?v=glance&s=books


 
 
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Lexington on May 25, 2005, 10:09:31 AM
Lexington--you're not one for black authors? what does that mean?

I was waiting for somebody to call my a$$ on that one... I'm generalizing and I'm wrong for that.

Basically it just means that I wrote the genre off for a long time because every black book i picked up seemed so stereotypical.  For awhile it seemed as though black authors were relegated to writing about one type of character. That was frustrating for me.  I think it has gotten better in recent years with there being a whole plethora of "black" experiences to choose from now.  Or maybe it was just me all along.  Who knows!  I'm still sort of reluctant, but I'm coming around. 
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: faith2005 on May 25, 2005, 11:28:35 AM
awww blk, i love those love poems by nikki giovanni. my favorite is the poem thats like, "how do you write a poem about?" and I liked blues dancing too.

lexington--yeah, generalization is wrong, esp. since there isn't one genre of "black authors." black authors exist across every genre. i mean there are science fiction writers like octavia butler/hist. fiction writers like lalita tademy/literature like toni morrison and james baldwin/erotica like zane and the brown sugar series/chick lit like terri mcmillan and mystery like walter moseley and the tamara mchayle novels. i hope you continue to open your mind. have you read anything by any of the authors i mentioned in my last post? or this one? if you do, let me know what you think.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: blk_reign on May 25, 2005, 11:46:48 AM
i think that the main problem is that most people read books by zane...erick jerome dickey...e lynn harris etc... not saying that they're bad authors or anything... but when those are the only black authors that you've read or been exposed to... you're limited in your view of black authors..

i guess it's the same as music u know? if u're only exposed to the likes of 50 cent..you'll get turned off real quick about what hip hop is and what it isn't
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: faith2005 on May 25, 2005, 12:12:19 PM
yeah, thats why i wrote what i did. i actually avoid terri mcmillan. on the other hand i think e lynn harris is good. i just think its like if somebody said, i stay away from white authors. and all they had read was danielle steele, i think most people would say thats invalid b/c then its like, well, white authors write in other genres too, not just the romance/adventure genre. those books are on the reading level of like a 7th grader imo. i hope that lexington has read or will read other stuff as well.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: blk_reign on May 25, 2005, 12:50:42 PM
I actually had to read E Lynn Harris' Invisible Life for an African American Cultural Experience course (not at AU rofl) and our professor told the men that if they didn't read the book they'd fail the class :D...

but it definitely opened up my eyes to some things...
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: faith2005 on May 25, 2005, 01:26:23 PM
invisible life was a good book imo. it spoke to many issues surrounding afr. am. culture as it relates to the lgbt community, aids, relationships, and it was self-published by a black man, so i gave it props just for that.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: blk_reign on May 25, 2005, 01:28:07 PM
i agree.. it was definitely a good book.. If This World Were Mine is excellent as well


invisible life was a good book imo. it spoke to many issues surrounding afr. am. culture as it relates to the lgbt community, aids, relationships, and it was self-published by a black man, so i gave it props just for that.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Lexington on May 25, 2005, 03:49:08 PM
awww blk, i love those love poems by nikki giovanni. my favorite is the poem thats like, "how do you write a poem about?" and I liked blues dancing too.

lexington--yeah, generalization is wrong, esp. since there isn't one genre of "black authors." black authors exist across every genre. i mean there are science fiction writers like octavia butler/hist. fiction writers like lalita tademy/literature like toni morrison and james baldwin/erotica like zane and the brown sugar series/chick lit like terri mcmillan and mystery like walter moseley and the tamara mchayle novels. i hope you continue to open your mind. have you read anything by any of the authors i mentioned in my last post? or this one? if you do, let me know what you think.

What I was referring to in my post was specifically the modern black fiction (if I can call it that).  I do realize that there are excellent black authors in every genre and that one or two people are not representative of an entire population.  I also realize that my exposure is limited.  The problem is that I do so little reading for fun that its a very slow process.

Of the ones you mentioned, I've read toni morrison, james baldwin and eric jerome dickey.  I started something by E. Lynn Harris but couldn't get past the first few chapters.  I've been meaning to check out Edwidge Danticat so perhaps that'll be next.  :)
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Abevigoda on May 25, 2005, 05:21:35 PM
I'm not black but I read this great book in college by Octavia Butler called Parable of the Sower.  It is highly recommended for those who like black female science fiction writers, or for anyone who likes a good book.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: lucky7 on May 25, 2005, 10:18:04 PM
I always liked Ray Bradbury- Something Wicked This Way Comes, Graveyard for Lunatics, One More for the Road- dark, strange comedy. Most is sci fi, but not all of it.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: lucky7 on May 25, 2005, 10:21:49 PM
ok, i just noticed this thread is in the blsd, so the previous post doesnt really fit, considering ray bradbury is an old white dude. he is, however, a fun read
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: ! B L U E WAR R I O R..! on May 25, 2005, 10:38:19 PM
aye used to work in a spot where august wilson
used to come in sit and listen to two of my workmates bicker for years...
funny thing is...they did not know who he was...aye never bothered him...but shite...aye know he got some ideas from their confabulations...strange aye had forgotten all about that time...

my two workmates always had me laughing...while we ALL bickered...we all had respect for each other...august wilson would just sit...quietly laugh sometimes...certainly write and once in a while he'd be just reading...always by himself.

aye consider august wilson one of the best...he "worked" broadway...he and his pal, lloyd richards...

his plays are treasures!

px.o.rsta
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: faith2005 on May 26, 2005, 08:03:23 AM
I'm not black but I read this great book in college by Octavia Butler called Parable of the Sower.  It is highly recommended for those who like black female science fiction writers, or for anyone who likes a good book.

i started with parable of the sower, and got hooked. i think i've read that series, kindred, and most of her 2nd series too. its good stuff.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: lex19 on May 26, 2005, 08:13:47 AM
Sister Souljah is cool, I read both the coldest winter ever and no disrespect. i liked no disrespect, but I came away thinking, wow, she was really insecure. she had an affair witha married man, got taken for all of her $, stuff that I can't even imagine. the coldest winter ever was cool, but i didn't really enjoy it. it seemed like she was trying to hard to document this super ghetto girl's lifestyle. it didn't seem real to me.

i thought the coldest winter ever was right on and the truth, and as for no disrespect, i couldn't believe how low her self-esteem was either faith, every guy she dated had a major malfunction, and i thinks it's more about her life as a young adult and not as fragmented as crash...definitly a good read


if anyone hasn't i reccomend maya angelou's autobiographical series, there are five books and man she is truly a phenominal woman....she's done it all, i mean i was so impressed and taken back i started collecting the first print editions..i have one more to get!  ;D

edit: yes i realize i can't spell to save my life  :-\


Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: blk_reign on May 26, 2005, 08:26:00 AM
why doesn't it fit? we don't only read black authors you know ???



ok, i just noticed this thread is in the blsd, so the previous post doesnt really fit, considering ray bradbury is an old white dude. he is, however, a fun read
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: One Step Ahead on May 26, 2005, 08:33:15 AM
why doesn't it fit? we don't only read black authors you know ???



ok, i just noticed this thread is in the blsd, so the previous post doesnt really fit, considering ray bradbury is an old white dude. he is, however, a fun read

hey lady.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: faith2005 on May 26, 2005, 08:34:21 AM
haha, yeah blk, i thought, hmmm, whats that about? i've read ray bradbury. granted it was Fahrenheit 451 in like 8th grade. but i do know who he is.  :D
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: blk_reign on May 26, 2005, 08:40:10 AM
good morning how are u ? :)


why doesn't it fit? we don't only read black authors you know ???



ok, i just noticed this thread is in the blsd, so the previous post doesnt really fit, considering ray bradbury is an old white dude. he is, however, a fun read

hey lady.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: blk_reign on May 26, 2005, 08:40:53 AM
 :D

haha, yeah blk, i thought, hmmm, whats that about? i've read ray bradbury. granted it was Fahrenheit 451 in like 8th grade. but i do know who he is.  :D
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on May 26, 2005, 08:45:46 AM
ok, i just noticed this thread is in the blsd, so the previous post doesnt really fit, considering ray bradbury is an old white dude. he is, however, a fun read

It's okay.  My suggestions were by White authors.  Just because we're Black doesn't mean we *only* read stuff by other Black people! ;) :D (As Reign pointed out.)

Welcome and feel free to post any time.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: One Step Ahead on May 26, 2005, 08:48:59 AM
ok, i just noticed this thread is in the blsd, so the previous post doesnt really fit, considering ray bradbury is an old white dude. he is, however, a fun read

It's okay.  My suggestions were by White authors.  Just because we're Black doesn't mean we *only* read stuff by other Black people! ;) :D (As Reign pointed out.)

Welcome and feel free to post any time.

trust Mobell to be nice. ::)
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: scurred1 on May 26, 2005, 04:10:45 PM
This new novel She Who Shops is a fun summer read. If you love reading about spoiled BAPs, classism, prestige-obsessed Black folks in Boston, etc. This one will do it for you.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0758208553/qid=1117145324/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/102-8574180-0076941?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Fabyahluss on May 27, 2005, 12:24:45 AM
A friend of mine just boughtme The Secret Life of Bees by Sue Monk Kidd.  It started out pretty slow, but we'll see how interesting it gets. It was on the New York Time's Bestseller List for an incredibly long time, and was really popular at several major bookstores for a minute too. But damn, I hate slow beginnings. If a book is really good, by the time I take my first break from reading it I should have covered a few chapters.  I fell asleep before I even got through the first chapter of The Secret Life of Bees.
:-\Still, because it is allegedly sooo good, I'll give it a few more chapters before I hang up the towel.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: shiveringjenny on May 27, 2005, 12:53:44 AM
Two good books that I read recently were Memoirs of a Geisha and Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil.  I highly recommend both.

Oh, man-- Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil used to be one of my favorite books when I was a kid. I must've read it 5 or 6 times.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: blk_reign on May 27, 2005, 08:05:35 PM
I read both of these in college.. they're good reads...


Ann Petry The Street  As much a historical document as it is a novel, this 1946 winner of the Houghton Mifflin Literary Fellowship is the poignant and unblinkingly honest story of a young black woman's struggle to live and raise her son by herself amid the violence, poverty, and racial dissonance of Harlem in the late 1940s

Nella Larson Quicksand and Passing Nella Larsen's novels Quicksand(1928) and Passing(1929) document the historical realities of Harlem in the 1920s and shed a bright light on the social world of the black bourgeoisie. The novel's greatest appeal and achievement, however, is not sociological, but psychological. As noted in the editor's comprehensive introduction, Larsen takes the them of psychic dualism, so popular in Harlem Renaissance fiction, to a higher and more complex level, displaying a sophisticated understanding and penetrating analysis of black female psychology.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: elegantpearl01 on May 29, 2005, 04:44:29 PM
Some good black history reads:

1.  Ivan Van Sertima--They Came Before Columbus; Black Women in Antiquity
2.  Chinua Achebe--Things Fall Apart
3.  Carter G. Woodson--The Miseducation of the Negro; Afican Heroes and Heroines
4.  Cheikh Anta Diop--The African Origin of Civilization: Myth or Reality
5.  Frances Cress Welsing--The Isis Papers
6.  Assata Shakur--Assata
7.  Elaine Brown--Taste of Power
8.  Elridge Cleaver-Soul on Ice
9.  Dr. Henry Louis Gates & Dr. Cornel West-The Future of the Race
10  Carl T. Rowan--Dream Makers, Dream Breakers (Biography of Justice Thurgood Marshall)
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: scurred1 on May 29, 2005, 05:12:32 PM
Black Rednecks and White Liberals by Thomas Sowell. Yeah, he's not everyone's cup of tea but he has an interesting point of view. It will either make you really angry or make you reconsider some of your beliefs about racism and culture.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1594030863/qid=1117408244/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/103-2844706-8273432?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: prettylily on May 30, 2005, 05:34:21 PM
I love reading and I'm so happy it's summer so that I can read the books that I really want to read.

This past week and a half, I finished, The Men of Brewster Place by Gloria Naylor (excellent) and Harlem Redux by Persia Walker (Excellent book based in the Harlem Renaissance).

I'm starting Angel of Harlem in a few, but it starts off kind of slow.  Hopefully it'll pick up.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: faith2005 on May 31, 2005, 03:39:09 PM
hey swb, i read "a taste of reality" and it was pretty good. some parts of it were sorta shallow though. i think i would have enjoyed it more if i was lounging on a beach somewhere in the dominican republic.  :)
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Fabyahluss on May 31, 2005, 04:19:59 PM
hey swb, i read "a taste of reality" and it was pretty good. some parts of it were sorta shallow though. i think i would have enjoyed it more if i was lounging on a beach somewhere in the dominican republic.  :)

LOL. That's interesting. Which parts did you think were shallow??
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: faith2005 on May 31, 2005, 04:33:33 PM
hey, i don't think we've ever been online at the same time. hmm, i think that the epilogue was really shallow, and non-satisfying. i though that the whole her falling in love with dude just after one date was sorta contrived. i also thought the sections where "the man" was talking were a little overdone. i mean, i don't believe in "the man" in the sense that there are 3 men sitting somewhere plotting. but i thought it was a good book overall.

oh and quicksand and passing are two books that i could discuss again and again. blk--did you think there were sexual overtones to the relationships in passing? and thats why things fell apart.

oh and elegant, i knew there was a reason i liked you--frances cress welsing, cheikh anta diop AND ivan van sertima. but where is dr. akbar on your list?  :)
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: blk_reign on May 31, 2005, 04:41:41 PM
you know i need to reread it..it's been some years.. but i know that that was a heavy part of discussion in my african american women writers course... i don't want to speak on it and put my foot in my mouth until i become familar with the characters again.. .give me a couple of days and we'll come back to this  :)




oh and quicksand and passing are two books that i could discuss again and again. blk--did you think there were sexual overtones to the relationships in passing? and thats why things fell apart.


Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Fabyahluss on May 31, 2005, 04:45:20 PM
hey, i don't think we've ever been online at the same time. hmm, i think that the epilogue was really shallow, and non-satisfying. i though that the whole her falling in love with dude just after one date was sorta contrived. i also thought the sections where "the man" was talking were a little overdone. i mean, i don't believe in "the man" in the sense that there are 3 men sitting somewhere plotting. but i thought it was a good book overall.


Yeah, I think you're right about us never being online at the same time, but I've only started gettin online once finals were done, so maybe that's why!

But yeah, I feel you on the sections with the three executives. I mean, it just exaggerated the ways in which people imagine white people in power to be, but I see how you could've found it overdone.  And although I don't necessarily picture a scene exactly like that when imagining racial oppression in the workplace, I wouldn't be at all surprised if actual conversations like the ones illustrated in the book took place. For the most part though, I think those types of beliefs are so embedded in some people's thought processes that it doesn't even need to be articulated when those people are communicating with others who think the same way. It's sort of like an unspoken understanding.

I know a lady well who worked in a predominantly white corporate firm and experinced the SAME thing that the woman in A Taste of Reality experienced in regards to getting passed over for a much less qualified, but white, applicant. Moreover, she has told me about discrimination that takes place all the time in the firm she works at, although it is hardly ever discussed, especially the way that it was discussed in the book. Nowadays, it doesn't have to be and still doesn't lose its effectiveness.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: elegantpearl01 on May 31, 2005, 06:05:18 PM
Faith, you know going to school/residing in Tally Dr. Akbar is a must....that man is a powerful lecturer....I am glad you feel me though....I love reading works from black intellectuals and scholars, it makes me wish I would have gotten that Ph.d at times...I feel they do more important work than the average attorney.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Fabyahluss on June 01, 2005, 11:53:32 PM
I finished The Secret Life of Bees recently; you know, the book that I previously considered boring and slow. Well, it picked up. All in all, it was a pretty good book. To be honest, it's the first fiction novel that I've read in quite some time that was set in such an ancient period (South Carolina in the 60s). It was pretty good though, and I can see why it'd be a bestseller. Moreover, as Mobell alluded to earlier, if you've been raised or have lived in the south, you may enjoy the book much better than someone who wasn't, simply because you may relate to some of the experiences of the main characters. See, I've lived in a blue state my whole life, and altough the novel was set in the 60s, I know some of that blatant racist ish still goes down in the south, to which I can't even fathom, much less relate.

Anywho, happy reading!  8)
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: faith2005 on June 02, 2005, 07:57:20 AM
swb--ancient period? the 60's? LOL!

Ok, I finished 3 books these past 2 weeks. The Dew Breaker by Edwidge Danticat was excellent! I love her writing, its innovative, beautiful and lyrical. I also read the devil wears prada. it was a fun read and kept me interested. i read it a couple of times on the various planes i was on this weekend and I was laughing out loud. it was a fun book. and i also read a taste of reality. i mentioned it earlier, but it was a good book. now i am ready to get some others. i think i will try this secret life of bees and see what its about.
peace y'all!
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Lexington on June 02, 2005, 10:01:43 AM
swb--ancient period? the 60's? LOL!

Ok, I finished 3 books these past 2 weeks. The Dew Breaker by Edwidge Danticat was excellent! I love her writing, its innovative, beautiful and lyrical. I also read the devil wears prada. it was a fun read and kept me interested. i read it a couple of times on the various planes i was on this weekend and I was laughing out loud. it was a fun book. and i also read a taste of reality. i mentioned it earlier, but it was a good book. now i am ready to get some others. i think i will try this secret life of bees and see what its about.
peace y'all!

Do I get points for finishing No Disrespect the other day? When I told people what I was reading, they'd look at me like  :-\ Been there, done that, long time ago... LOL. After reading it, I felt like it was a book that all young women should read.  But some of the stories she tells are so crazy I have to wonder if a young girl who hasn't been through anything yet herself would even take it seriously.

I think I'll go with Dew Breaker or Bees next.  Maybe we could all be on the same book at the same time and talk about it...
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: lex19 on June 02, 2005, 10:34:24 AM
i was late too with no disrespect, i read it abouttwo months ago but better late than never!
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: faith2005 on June 02, 2005, 02:43:48 PM
like i said sister souljah went thru some craziness. i mean, that one dude who played her and took her money shocked me, but then that was not the only story of craziness in the book. i have a feeling there are others that she didn't put in.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Fabyahluss on June 02, 2005, 03:54:33 PM
Maybe we could all be on the same book at the same time and talk about it...

That's a really great idea! I just ordered She Who Shops. Someone recommended it on this thread, and on the description on amazon it seemed pretty funny. Only thing is amazon takes foreeeeeeeever to ship, so hopefully I'll get it before the summer is over. I paid $6.50 for it, which isn't too bad.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Muse on June 02, 2005, 03:59:30 PM
One Hundred Years of Solitude is a fantastic book...I'm also going to be picking up Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince. Any Harry Potter fans out there?  :)
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Rudy Huckleberry on June 02, 2005, 11:14:57 PM
One Hundred Years of Solitude is a fantastic book...I'm also going to be picking up Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince. Any Harry Potter fans out there?  :)

I like the movies...
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: faith2005 on June 03, 2005, 08:29:26 AM
one hundred years of solitude is good, but also very very strange.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Fabyahluss on June 03, 2005, 11:50:07 PM
Recently, I received my She Who Shops. So far, it's okay, but there's one thing that I don't dig at all. There appears to be an unspoken assumption throughout the book in the eyes of the main character that a light skinned black woman with long straight hair is the epitome of a beautiful black woman. Now don't get me wrong, I've read plenty of books where the main character has that perspective, but it is always clearly acknowledged that that's their individual perspective, and (usually) subsequently goes into depth about the derivatives of that perspective. However, the main character in this book hasn't done that, at least not just yet, but rather just assumes that image is universal. This is despite the fact that every other page is talking about the main characters woes of not being beautiful because she isn't light skinned with long straight hair, which is allegedly a "gift."  ::)

That mess just burns me up  >:(, but I won't put the book down just yet
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: scurred1 on June 04, 2005, 02:42:24 PM
Recently, I received my She Who Shops. So far, it's okay, but there's one thing that I don't dig at all. There appears to be an unspoken assumption throughout the book in the eyes of the main character that a light skinned black woman with long straight hair is the epitome of a beautiful black woman. Now don't get me wrong, I've read plenty of books where the main character has that perspective, but it is always clearly acknowledged that that's their individual perspective, and (usually) subsequently goes into depth about the derivatives of that perspective. However, the main character in this book hasn't done that, at least not just yet, but rather just assumes that image is universal. This is despite the fact that every other page is talking about the main characters woes of not being beautiful because she isn't light skinned with long straight hair, which is allegedly a "gift."  ::)

That mess just burns me up  >:(, but I won't put the book down just yet


I KNOW!!! I really liked the book but the main character seemed to have a lot of "color" issues that weren't really resolved or at least explored in detail by the author.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Fabyahluss on June 05, 2005, 07:22:54 PM
Recently, I received my She Who Shops. So far, it's okay, but there's one thing that I don't dig at all. There appears to be an unspoken assumption throughout the book in the eyes of the main character that a light skinned black woman with long straight hair is the epitome of a beautiful black woman. Now don't get me wrong, I've read plenty of books where the main character has that perspective, but it is always clearly acknowledged that that's their individual perspective, and (usually) subsequently goes into depth about the derivatives of that perspective. However, the main character in this book hasn't done that, at least not just yet, but rather just assumes that image is universal. This is despite the fact that every other page is talking about the main characters woes of not being beautiful because she isn't light skinned with long straight hair, which is allegedly a "gift."  ::)

That mess just burns me up  >:(, but I won't put the book down just yet


I KNOW!!! I really liked the book but the main character seemed to have a lot of "color" issues that weren't really resolved or at least explored in detail by the author.

EXACTLY. I'm like, "umm, I have NEVER felt as though my skin tone hindered me from being beautiful, so what's up with this assumption that everyone who is not light skinned is just cursed?"

But yeah, I'm a lil more than half-way through it, and it seems to be getting a lot better, although I hate the pure shallowness of the main character.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: StraightUp on June 08, 2005, 09:21:43 PM
For those of you that enjoy Horror check out The Good House by Tananarive Due, very entertaining.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Muse on June 09, 2005, 12:12:18 PM
Regal's Recommendations...

Don't Play in the Sun: One Woman's Journey Through the Color Complex by Marita Golden

Emperor of Ocean Park by Stephen L. Carter (highly recommended)

Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance by
Barack Obama

Hottentot Venus: A Novel by  Barbara Chase-Riboud

Shake Hands with the Devil: The Failure of Humanity in Rwanda
by Romeo Dallaire, Foreword by Samantha Power

Our Kind of People: Inside America's Black Upper Class by
Lawrence Otis Graham

Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make the Leap... and Others Don't by Jim C. Collins

Black Critics and Kings by Andrew Apter

Bananas, Beaches, and Bases by Cynthia Enloe

 He's Just Not That into You: The No-Excuses Truth to Understanding Guys by Greg Behrendt

 State of Fear by Michael Crichton

Tar Baby by Toni Morrison

A Problem from Hell: American and the Age of Genocide by Samantha Power

The Isis Papers: The Key to the Colors by Dr. Frances Cress Welsing

Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki

The Years of Rice and Salt by Kim Robinson ( LOVE THIS BOOK)

The Mars Trilogy by Kim Robinson

The Harry Potter Series J.K Rowling

The Chronicles of Narnia by CS Lewis

One Hundred Years of Solitude byGabriel García Márquez

Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison

Native Son by Richard Wright

Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess

The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien

Make Room! Make Room! by Harry Harrison

The Great gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald

The Souls of Black Folk by W.E.B. DuBois

Utopia by Thomas More

Warrior Politics by Robert Kaplan

Just Prince by Iban Zafar...

Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Muse on June 09, 2005, 12:14:40 PM
For the business savvy...My dad gave me all of these books to read and they were pretty damn good.

1. Jack- Go With Your Gut
2. The Millionaire Next Door
3. The Richest Man in Babylon
4. Lee Iacocca's Autobiography
5. The Warren Buffett Way
6. Buffett
7. 7 Habits of Highly Effective People
8. Retire Young, Retire Rich
9. Rich Dad, Poor Dad
10. Masters of The Universe: The 10 Greatest Dealmakers of All Time
11. Taking Yourself To The Top
12. The 20 Characteristics of A Powerful Leader
13. The Millionaire Mind
14. The Art of War
15. How To Invest In Apartment Buildings
16. The Principles of Real Estate.....

Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: scurred1 on June 09, 2005, 04:24:30 PM
Don't Play in the Sun was pretty good but it left me feeling really depressed. Ah, well.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: _BP_ on June 14, 2005, 12:00:35 AM
For the business savvy...My dad gave me all of these books to read and they were pretty damn good.

1. Jack- Go With Your Gut
2. The Millionaire Next Door
3. The Richest Man in Babylon
4. Lee Iacocca's Autobiography
5. The Warren Buffett Way
6. Buffett
7. 7 Habits of Highly Effective People
8. Retire Young, Retire Rich
9. Rich Dad, Poor Dad
10. Masters of The Universe: The 10 Greatest Dealmakers of All Time
11. Taking Yourself To The Top
12. The 20 Characteristics of A Powerful Leader
13. The Millionaire Mind
14. The Art of War
15. How To Invest In Apartment Buildings
16. The Principles of Real Estate.....



Regal did you really read them? I've read like half of them on your list.  Art of War was the joint.  If you like that, check out "The Prince" by Macheveli (sp).  I can't imagine you getting through the millionaire mind though, that was drudgery imo.  I thought the richest man in babylon wasn't that good either, unless  you're a 12 years old or something.  Overall a great list of books.  I just bought three books tonight: Freakanomics, Cracking the millionaire code, and Jim Cramer's real Money.  Cost me close to $80, so they better be all on point.  I'll let you guys know.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Muse on June 14, 2005, 12:39:18 PM
Yes I've read all the books I listed. I need more to read since I have a 14hr flight on monday.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: _BP_ on June 14, 2005, 01:34:13 PM
Yes I've read all the books I listed. I need more to read since I have a 14hr flight on monday.

check out freakonomics, I'm liking it so far.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Abevigoda on June 14, 2005, 02:19:35 PM
Finished it last month, it was great!  He has such a unique way on looking and then breaking common misconceptions on a variety of topics.  I particularly liked the Chicago-bent of some of his chapters, I know which housing projects he is talking about when he is discussing the financial dealing of gangs.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: faith2005 on June 14, 2005, 02:27:16 PM
how about throwing some fiction on your list bp? i have some suggestions... :) :P
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: _BP_ on June 14, 2005, 03:10:19 PM
how about throwing some fiction on your list bp? i have some suggestions... :) :P

if it isn't written by Chinua Achebe, you have a tall order..;)  Let me hear them.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: One Step Ahead on June 14, 2005, 03:55:21 PM
how about throwing some fiction on your list bp? i have some suggestions... :) :P

if it isn't written by Chinua Achebe, you have a tall order..;)  Let me hear them.

Are you more of "Things Fall Apart" or "Man of the People?"
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: _BP_ on June 14, 2005, 05:18:04 PM
how about throwing some fiction on your list bp? i have some suggestions... :) :P

if it isn't written by Chinua Achebe, you have a tall order..;)  Let me hear them.

Are you more of "Things Fall Apart" or "Man of the People?"

Things Fall Apart by a landslide.  That's my favorite one.  Man of the people was on point as well though.

So I'm reading Freakonomics..I had no idea that the Klu Klux Klan was started by 4 lawyers...thought that was interesting.  Oh, and the ways that teachers cheat to help their students improve their standardized test scores. 
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: nalaunto on June 14, 2005, 08:13:00 PM
All I'm reading this summer is Dean Kontz.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: _BP_ on June 16, 2005, 03:32:43 PM
Okay, update from the book I’m reading “Freakanomics”: 

After controlling for just a few variables-including the income an education level of the child’s parents and the mother’s age at the birth of her first child-the (learning) gap between black and white children is virtually eliminated at the time the children enter school. 

-The data reveals that black children who perform poorly in school do so not because they are black but because they tend to come from low-income, low-education households.  A typical black child and white child from the same socioeconomic background, however, has the same abilities in math and reading upon entering kindergarden.

By the end of first grade, a black child is underperforming a statistically equivalent white child, and the gap continues to grow.  Why?  One answer may lie in the fact that the school attended by the typical black child is not the same school attended by the typical white child.  The typical white child attends a school that is only 6 percent black; the typical black child, meanwhile, attends a school that is about 60 percent black.  The typical black student’s school has a far higher rate of troublesome indicators…..simply not conducive to learning. 

Black students are hardly the only ones who suffer in bad schools.  White children in these schools also perform poorly.  In fact there is essentially no black-white test score gap within a bad school once you control for student’s backgrounds.  Perhaps educators and researchers are wrong to be so hung up on the black-white test score gap; the bad-school/good-school gap may be the more salient issue.

Consider this fact: the data reveals that black students in good schools don’t lose ground to their white counterparts, and  black students in good schools outperform whites in poor schools.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Abevigoda on June 18, 2005, 07:55:43 AM
That is a great chapter and gave me a lot of new arguments for state parity in funding for school districts.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Fabyahluss on June 18, 2005, 01:27:25 PM
Okay, update from the book I’m reading “Freakanomics”: 

After controlling for just a few variables-including the income an education level of the child’s parents and the mother’s age at the birth of her first child-the (learning) gap between black and white children is virtually eliminated at the time the children enter school. 

-The data reveals that black children who perform poorly in school do so not because they are black but because they tend to come from low-income, low-education households.  A typical black child and white child from the same socioeconomic background, however, has the same abilities in math and reading upon entering kindergarden.

By the end of first grade, a black child is underperforming a statistically equivalent white child, and the gap continues to grow.  Why?  One answer may lie in the fact that the school attended by the typical black child is not the same school attended by the typical white child.  The typical white child attends a school that is only 6 percent black; the typical black child, meanwhile, attends a school that is about 60 percent black.  The typical black student’s school has a far higher rate of troublesome indicators…..simply not conducive to learning. 

Black students are hardly the only ones who suffer in bad schools.  White children in these schools also perform poorly.  In fact there is essentially no black-white test score gap within a bad school once you control for student’s backgrounds.  Perhaps educators and researchers are wrong to be so hung up on the black-white test score gap; the bad-school/good-school gap may be the more salient issue.

Consider this fact: the data reveals that black students in good schools don’t lose ground to their white counterparts, and  black students in good schools outperform whites in poor schools.


After reading that, I had to scroll back up sayin, "Now I know he didn't just say the title of the book was FREAKanomics.." Sorry, the title just didn't seem to fit (that chapter, at least). :D

But that was solid info, yet no surprise to me, particularly the last fact you cited.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: _BP_ on June 18, 2005, 03:56:26 PM
Oh the name basically has to do with looking at economics in a different way....things that might seem counterintuitive or freaky..hence freakanomics.

Abevigoda, yes, that is a great chapter.  It really is a well written book.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: _BP_ on June 18, 2005, 05:22:56 PM
Oooo, I loved A Man of the People. It's my favorite Achebe.  So powerful and dark.

But most of my summer reading so far has consisted of various magazines...yep, I'm wrong for it but it's fun! ;D

A man of the people is dark fuh real.  The way Achebe writes you feel like you are there.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: ScurvyWench on June 21, 2005, 10:48:28 PM
Has anyone read the Dante Club? It's supposed to be like DaVinci Code, Rule of Four, the Eight and Focault's Pendulum, but I'm having a hard time getting into it. If anyone else has read it and can convince me it's worth it to continue, please share.

Otherwise I'm on to The Perks of Being a Wallflower.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: shiveringjenny on June 21, 2005, 11:41:45 PM
It is taking me forever to get through Foucault's Pendulum. I just never feel like reading it. In the week+ since I bought it, I have made it to, like, chapter 4. For basis of comparison, it took me less than 3 hours to read the Davinci Code. Also, there are too many allusions to stuff I don't know. There's nothing worse than reading something and knowing that i should get the reference but being completely at a loss as to what work/myth/book is being referred to. God, and stuff in foreign languages that I don't know.

 I feel like an illiterate when I'm reading this book, and it totally depresses me.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Omegaman on June 22, 2005, 12:37:52 AM
Some of my favorites;
1. Wretched of the Earth- Frantz Fanon
2. Salteaters- Toni Cade Bambara
3. Toni Morrison - everything  she’s written
4. Uncle Tom’s children- Richard Wright
5. And the Dogs Were Silent- Aime Cesaire
6. Go tell It on the Mountain- James Baldwin
7. Feodor Dosteoevsky
8. Oxherding Tale- Charles Johnson
9. A Lesson Before dying- Ernest Gaines
10. Benito Cereno- Herman Melville
11. Hadji Murad- Leo Tolstoy
12. Rails Under My Back- Jeffery Renard Allen
13. Love in the Time of Cholera- Gabriel Garcia Marquez
14. Everyday Use- Alice Walker
15. Che Guevara: A Revolutionary Life- Jon Lee Anderson
16. Black Pilgrimage To Islam- Robert Dannin
17. Soledad Brother- George Jackson
18. August Wilson
19. A Rage In Harlem & Cotton Comes To Harlem- Chester Himes
20. Edwidge Danticat
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: faith2005 on June 22, 2005, 07:55:13 AM
oooohhhh omegaman, you have half of my favorite books/authors on your list, and the other half are things i want to read soon. I look at the wretched of the earth everyday but i haven't been able to get through it. black skin white masks was easier for me to read. everyday use is a wonderful story. i think in search of our mother's gardens was so insightful. one book i don't recognize is rails under my back. whats that about? which toni morrison is your favorite? mine is paradise, then sula/tarbaby (i can't choose btw. them). her speech to accept the nobel prize was also amazing.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Omegaman on June 22, 2005, 11:18:48 AM
oooohhhh omegaman, you have half of my favorite books/authors on your list, and the other half are things i want to read soon. I look at the wretched of the earth everyday but i haven't been able to get through it. black skin white masks was easier for me to read. everyday use is a wonderful story. i think in search of our mother's gardens was so insightful. one book i don't recognize is rails under my back. whats that about? which toni morrison is your favorite? mine is paradise, then sula/tarbaby (i can't choose btw. them). her speech to accept the nobel prize was also amazing.

My favorite Toni Morrisons are Tar Baby and Song of Solomon, Rails is a first time novel by this brother who is a poet, its about 2 brothers and their wives, 1 brother a pseudo-gangsta wants to kill his father for revenge, told in different voices, took the brotha 8 years to write it. Check it out. You look at wretched everyday? Wow, who's your Wali?
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: k-roo123 on June 26, 2005, 07:59:05 PM
James Baldwin "Another Country" (well it may be a little too heavy for the summer!)
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: faith2005 on June 27, 2005, 02:43:43 PM
haha  :P i look at it everyday, i don't read it. i just glance at it on my bookshelf and think. i should finish that book! maybe that'll be my goal for the end of the summer. it'll be hard since i read the dewbreaker, then switched over to essence/self and cosmo. i guess i don't want to think too much b/f school. 

i love song of solomon as well. its hard for me to choose between them after paradise, which is my favorite. some of the imagery gives me chills. women who carry swords. the twins who lived in a town worth dying for. i think she's the greatest living novelist. i have to check out rails under my back.

and lol, my wali is my daddy!  :D

oooohhhh omegaman, you have half of my favorite books/authors on your list, and the other half are things i want to read soon. I look at the wretched of the earth everyday but i haven't been able to get through it. black skin white masks was easier for me to read. everyday use is a wonderful story. i think in search of our mother's gardens was so insightful. one book i don't recognize is rails under my back. whats that about? which toni morrison is your favorite? mine is paradise, then sula/tarbaby (i can't choose btw. them). her speech to accept the nobel prize was also amazing.

My favorite Toni Morrisons are Tar Baby and Song of Solomon, Rails is a first time novel by this brother who is a poet, its about 2 brothers and their wives, 1 brother a pseudo-gangsta wants to kill his father for revenge, told in different voices, took the brotha 8 years to write it. Check it out. You look at wretched everyday? Wow, who's your Wali?
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Omegaman on June 27, 2005, 04:17:47 PM
haha  :P i look at it everyday, i don't read it. i just glance at it on my bookshelf and think. i should finish that book! maybe that'll be my goal for the end of the summer. it'll be hard since i read the dewbreaker, then switched over to essence/self and cosmo. i guess i don't want to think too much b/f school. 

i love song of solomon as well. its hard for me to choose between them after paradise, which is my favorite. some of the imagery gives me chills. women who carry swords. the twins who lived in a town worth dying for. i think she's the greatest living novelist. i have to check out rails under my back.

and lol, my wali is my daddy!  :D

oooohhhh omegaman, you have half of my favorite books/authors on your list, and the other half are things i want to read soon. I look at the wretched of the earth everyday but i haven't been able to get through it. black skin white masks was easier for me to read. everyday use is a wonderful story. i think in search of our mother's gardens was so insightful. one book i don't recognize is rails under my back. whats that about? which toni morrison is your favorite? mine is paradise, then sula/tarbaby (i can't choose btw. them). her speech to accept the nobel prize was also amazing.

My favorite Toni Morrisons are Tar Baby and Song of Solomon, Rails is a first time novel by this brother who is a poet, its about 2 brothers and their wives, 1 brother a pseudo-gangsta wants to kill his father for revenge, told in different voices, took the brotha 8 years to write it. Check it out. You look at wretched everyday? Wow, who's your Wali?

I haven't read a novel in a minute so I think Ill re-read Paradise, I kinda skimmed over it the first time anyway. But there is also a Biography on Fanon, you might want to check out, because wretched is over the top and you get more balaned view, unfortunately in the end it probably did more harm then good, with everyone just reading and working off of the first page, as one older brother told me once about the book, that he felt it got alot of black folks killed :(
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: One Step Ahead on June 27, 2005, 04:56:15 PM
On my list of fun summer reading includes Tolstoy's War and Peace then the Brothers Karamazov by Dostoevsky since I enjoyed Crime and Punishment so much, some Camus- but only in the original (traductions are so lame, n'est-ce pas?  btw I am highly disappointed that you are taking the easy way out reading Wretched of the Earth, Les Damnés de la terre is where it is at, the purest Fanon is the most abstract)  then I figured I might as well delve into Dante's Inferno given what a crappy summer I would have had.   ::)  y'all wrong.  I was expecting to hear Francis Ray et al. ;)


Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Intuition on June 27, 2005, 05:20:35 PM
Just finished The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand. I enjoyed it thoroughly. That female dog was long though.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: elegantpearl01 on June 27, 2005, 05:28:12 PM
I think I am going to re-read Pimp the Story of My life by Iceberg Slim this summer.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Muse on June 27, 2005, 06:15:31 PM
Okay I finished reading Genieneve by Eric Jeroime Dickey...amazing book.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Fabyahluss on June 27, 2005, 09:54:39 PM
I think I am going to re-read Pimp the Story of My life by Iceberg Slim this summer.

Interesting read. I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Omegaman on June 28, 2005, 01:45:27 AM
On my list of fun summer reading includes Tolstoy's War and Peace then the Brothers Karamazov by Dostoevsky since I enjoyed Crime and Punishment so much, some Camus- but only in the original (traductions are so lame, n'est-ce pas?  btw I am highly disappointed that you are taking the easy way out reading Wretched of the Earth, Les Damnés de la terre is where it is at, the purest Fanon is the most abstract)  then I figured I might as well delve into Dante's Inferno given what a crappy summer I would have had.   ::)  y'all wrong.  I was expecting to hear Francis Ray et al. ;)




Very interesting. I like everything that Camus has written. To me he was more practical than Sartre, which is where I imagine Fanon probably got the Abstract influence from
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: faith2005 on June 28, 2005, 09:06:51 AM
yeah mobell, i have talked about reading much lighter things. i just love toni morrison and i have really had wretched of the earth on my bookshelf for 2 years trying to get through it. i got cosmo style on friday and discovered that my style is spicy.  :D

and e, i liked crime and punishment, but i wouldn't call it fun summer reading. and i read a camus novel and i didn't get it. it was a while ago, but i remember someone getting killed because the sun was in the guy's eye. i feel like there is probably a much deeper interpretation, but that's what i took away from it. so, in other words, I will not be sitting around reading that type of stuff this summer. and i will definitely not be reding it in french!  :D
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: ScurvyWench on June 28, 2005, 01:47:27 PM
On my list of fun summer reading includes Tolstoy's War and Peace then the Brothers Karamazov by Dostoevsky since I enjoyed Crime and Punishment so much, some Camus- but only in the original (traductions are so lame, n'est-ce pas?  btw I am highly disappointed that you are taking the easy way out reading Wretched of the Earth, Les Damnés de la terre is where it is at, the purest Fanon is the most abstract)  then I figured I might as well delve into Dante's Inferno given what a crappy summer I would have had.   ::)  y'all wrong.  I was expecting to hear Francis Ray et al. ;)




As much as I love Camus, Fanon, and Sarte, I wouldn't consider any of it fun summer reading. Stimulating, but not the fun, light-hearted stuff I'm looking to escape with before diving into lawschool.

I'd also agree that it's all much better in French. Too bad, I spent more time learning to read French than speak it. I can't speak a word of it.

I wish they'd put out another Shopaholic book. Now that's the sort of relaxing thing I'm looking for before LS.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Omegaman on July 14, 2005, 04:44:44 PM
Since this is suppossed to be about "Fun Summer reads" What do ya'll think about "Harry Potter"?. Ive never read 1, but I have seen all of the movies. I thought Id ask with the Hoopla surrounding the new release this Friday/saturday
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Muse on July 15, 2005, 05:34:00 AM
HARRY POTTER AND THE HALF BLOOD PRINCE CAME OUT TODAY. I GOT MY UK COPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: lex19 on July 15, 2005, 07:08:06 AM
As much as I love Camus, Fanon, and Sarte, I wouldn't consider any of it fun summer reading. Stimulating, but not the fun, light-hearted stuff I'm looking to escape with before diving into lawschool.

I'd also agree that it's all much better in French. Too bad, I spent more time learning to read French than speak it. I can't speak a word of it.

I wish they'd put out another Shopaholic book. Now that's the sort of relaxing thing I'm looking for before LS.

scary flashbacks to philosophy discussions when i saw sarte being mentioned....i'm glad to be done with undergrad
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: YoungIke on July 15, 2005, 07:11:35 AM
I'm reading a classic Novel called Clifford the Big Red Dog
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: shiveringjenny on July 17, 2005, 11:03:28 PM
I read Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince yesterday and found it quite enjoyable.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: THE BLUE SWEATER on July 19, 2005, 09:40:29 PM
I find the comic books suffice in satisfying my intellectual curiosity
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: Muse on July 20, 2005, 07:34:40 AM
superocdman...I'm a closet fangirl...over 10,000 comics.

I love X-Men, Vertigo/DC, and Image early 90's.

BTW Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince was AMAZING!
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: THE BLUE SWEATER on July 20, 2005, 08:20:36 AM
superocdman...I'm a closet fangirl...over 10,000 comics.

I love X-Men, Vertigo/DC, and Image early 90's.

BTW Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince was AMAZING!

....so lawyer, intresting, world traveled, and reads comic books....wow
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: shiveringjenny on July 20, 2005, 12:31:19 PM
HP 6 was much better than HP 5. And Vertigo comics is the best line.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: THE BLUE SWEATER on July 20, 2005, 12:32:43 PM
Only when Marvel went through that period when they had screwed up all the storylines beyond repair and had tostart over.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: shiveringjenny on July 20, 2005, 03:14:29 PM
I've never been a fan of Marvel. In fact, I only recently got into the superhero genre at all. I was talking about the more literary type comics that Vertigo produces, like The Sandman, Lucifer, 100 Bullets, etc. Those are all awesome. In fact, I need to go pick up the new 100 Bullets TP right now. I totally forgot about it until this post.
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: lex19 on July 20, 2005, 03:43:07 PM
X-men for life! matter a fact, i'm changing my aviator now  ;)
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: blk_reign on July 20, 2005, 03:47:22 PM
x-men is the joint :D


X-men for life! matter a fact, i'm changing my aviator now  ;)
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: lex19 on July 20, 2005, 03:55:31 PM
yeah, i still watch the 90's cartoon on sat. mornings, abc fam channel, gotta check out the old comic collection
x-men is the joint :D


X-men for life! matter a fact, i'm changing my aviator now  ;)
Title: Re: Fun Summer Reads
Post by: THE BLUE SWEATER on July 20, 2005, 08:21:40 PM
X-Men before wolverine had his adamantium removed, (All went downhill from there) and of course Spiderman. There is no superhero who is more down than spiderman. As far as DC he Batman comics are actually very good too. Sandman was he only vertigo I got into.