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Deciding Where to Go => Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists => Topic started by: lawyer2b on June 04, 2004, 02:17:17 PM

Title: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: lawyer2b on June 04, 2004, 02:17:17 PM
I received a letter today from UT which says that due to the number of students who have made enrollment deposits, the Committee has decided not to extend additional offers of admission at this time.  It goes on to say that the Admission Committee will review the number of admitted students who have submitted their Letter of Intent to enroll during the first week of July.

Can anyone tell me how much UT asked for in terms of application deposits?  Is a further application deposit required concurrent with the Letter of Intent to enroll?  When I read lawschoolnumbers.com, it seems like UT is nowhere near the first choice for most admitted students.  I'm just wondering how much skin they have in the game at this point.
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: Sosua on June 04, 2004, 03:07:25 PM
Got the same letter.  Don't know if it means anything.
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: DMD on June 04, 2004, 03:16:12 PM
My guess is that for people who UT wasn't a first choice for, they were hoping to get into Georgetown, Stanford, etc.  But, with the crazy #s of applications this year they might not have gotten in at the higher places and are having to take UT as a second choice.  Or, they are still on waitlists at those other places and went ahead and sent in the deposit to hold their spot at UT.
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: pendreamy on June 04, 2004, 03:43:01 PM
don't always trust LSN. i live in austin, and most applicants from TX would sacrifice their first born to go there. and there are a hell of a lot of texans. i believe their letter, but if you're truly committed, bug the hell out of them right up to the 1st day of classes.
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: lawyer2b on June 05, 2004, 07:38:55 AM
I'm really curious to know details of UT's schedule of deposit dates and amounts.  If those accepted only have a $100 deposit down at this point, it may just mean that they haven't made up their mind.  I'm also curious what the Letter of Intent comprises, and if it has to be accompanied by mo' money.

Overall, it looks like UT has waitlisted relatively few applicants, especially when compared to, say USC.  I read somewhere that historically UT takes 25 - 50% of their waitlisted applicants, but I'm wondering if that will be drastically reduced this year.
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: tbonesofa on June 07, 2004, 02:33:32 PM
I'm in the UT 2007 class and have a friend trying to get off the waitlist, so i'll tell you what i know.  the intial deposit for UT was $200 due on april 15th.  Our letter of intent form is due on june 21 and requires no extra deposit.  From talks with the admission's office, i know that no one has gotten off the waitlist in the past two years, however, i've been told that this year may be different. They have seperate waitlist for in and out of state applicants. Someone (in-state) from lsn and the jd2 board claims to have been accepted off the waitlist a few weeks ago (she says she declined it)
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: lawyer2b on June 07, 2004, 02:57:20 PM
tbone, thanks for the info.  Two questions:

1)  You mentioned that the initial deposit was $200.  Is there another deposit required?  If so when, if not, when is tuition due?  Again, I'm just trying to get a feel for when things may happen at the admissions office.

2)  Did you get an idea of why the admissions office thought that this year's treatment of the waitlist may be different from the last two?

Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: tbonesofa on June 07, 2004, 03:13:13 PM
1)There are no more deposits due.  As far i remember, the first tuition payment is due when orientation starts in late august.  However, on the letter-of-intent letter they wrote that they need to "monitor our class over the next few months so that the applicants on the waitlist can be best accommodated." for whatever that is worth...

2)I'm not entirely sure.  I would guess it would just be because they were caught off guard by the record number of applicants in the past few years.  They've probably been more conservative in admissions this year in an attempt to better manage the class.  I know this is the case w/ a number of other top schools (mich, columbia, etc).

Best of luck to you.
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: tbonesofa on June 07, 2004, 03:28:03 PM
also i'd emphasis june 21st as the key date for the waitlist.  I imagine there are a few people who sent in the deposit still undecided (I did).  On the 21st we have to reserve a seat by sending in our letter or intent, and by this time, unlike the deposit on april 15th, i would think that most people would have had time to have made up their minds.  so the end of june or the beginning of july i would guess would be around when you would hear.
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: Aurelius on July 06, 2004, 08:39:53 AM
I'm waitlisted at UT, so I was watching this thread for a while. Anybody heard anything new?

Also, I'll have to defer if I get accepted. (I'm going abroad on a fellowship.) Has anybody heard of anyone deferring after getting in off a waitlist?
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: lawyer2b on July 06, 2004, 10:08:31 AM
I haven't heard anything as yet from UT.  Hopefully they will be making some decisions in the next couple of weeks.  One individual on the xoxohth board who was on the WL with supernatural numbers was offered admission a week or so ago.  As LSN seems to be down, I'll post developments here.
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: Aurelius on July 06, 2004, 10:24:01 AM
Wow. I just checked out that guy's info on xoxohth, and I'm definitely not in his league either. At least he turned them down!

Good luck and thanks for the info. Let us know if you hear anything else.
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: lawyer2b on July 06, 2004, 03:14:19 PM
Update:  I received another letter today that is substantially the same as the June letter.  The only difference in the body of the letter is that planned Committee review has changed from "the first week of July" to "the first week of August".  I'm not optimistic, but I appreciate them keeping in touch.  Seeing as how the Letters of Intent to Enroll were due during in late June, and tuition is due in mid-late August, what new information do they expect to have between now and the first week of August?  Perhaps responses to offers made to others on the WL?

Has anyone else received this letter?  Has anyone been accepted from the WL?

Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: dta on July 06, 2004, 03:38:43 PM
Hi all. UT is my first pick for Fall 2005. I'm a texas resident and the above poster was correct - texas residents would do just about ANYTHING to get in (we all LOVE texas!).

Anyway, I was hoping that all of you who were waitlisted this year could post your stats to help me, and others like me, guage our chances. Specifically:

ugpa
undergrad institution
undergrad major
lsat
texas residency?
significant work experience?
urm?

Thank you very much!
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: Aurelius on July 06, 2004, 03:58:09 PM
My stuff's okay: 3.71/162, English and PoliSci at Rice, in-state. I was also student body president and had a recommendation from the Rice president, but you can see how much good that's done me.

Georgetown rejected me flat-out, and I'm on the Columbia reserve list. Suffice it to say, UT's my only real hope at this point, so I'm hoping they'll come through.

But, of course, I'm not holding my breath.

Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: Aurelius on July 07, 2004, 12:23:11 PM
Just thought I'd add that I also got the "first week of August" letter yesterday, so we're in the same boat.

Hopefully it's not sinking too quickly.
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: tbonesofa on July 07, 2004, 04:47:20 PM
my friend got off the waitlist at ut this week so there is hope.  good look yall
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: LawNOrder on July 07, 2004, 11:39:34 PM
I am stuck on the waiting list as well.  I was wondering what was your friend's numbers?  It would help to know...although my hopes are dwindling  :(
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: dta on July 08, 2004, 09:46:58 AM
Hey LawNOrder. What are your stats? I'm applying for '05. Your info would be helpful. thanks.
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: LawNOrder on July 08, 2004, 10:53:07 AM
I got a 163 on the LSAT and I have a 3.72 gpa.

I have a masters in accounting and a couple of years work experience.

I am debtating retaking the LSAT if I don't get in this year...Hopefully there will be a miracle and I can start this year.  I am not sure if that is going to happen though...
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: dta on July 08, 2004, 11:08:43 AM
LawNOrder - are you a texas resident? Also, what was your undergrad major?

much thanks!
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: lawyer2b on July 08, 2004, 02:58:34 PM
This waitlister's stats are 164 and 3.55, in-state.  I'm remaining hopefull for everyone.
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: LawNOrder on July 08, 2004, 06:01:15 PM
Yeah Texas resident, non-urm.  Majored in accounting at a top 10 undergrad B-school.
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: dta on July 08, 2004, 06:17:27 PM
Yeah Texas resident, non-urm.  Majored in accounting at a top 10 undergrad B-school.

Man, numbers range is really flakie. I've seen people get in w/ numbers like ours and others get rejected. I think with our numbers the rest of the app (PS, LOR's, etc.) will make or break you.
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: Enzyme on July 08, 2004, 07:57:07 PM
UT-Austin will be on my list of schools to apply to this fall! Hopefully they will be nice to an out of state Houstonian with a wife from Dallas who went to school in FL for undergrad and MBA and has worked in MN for two years now, but is looking to return to Texas in the future and UT will be on my school list. Back when I graduated from High School, UT had a special or niche program that allowed you to get your bachelor's and JD in 5 years at an accelerated pace, and I was accepted then with just the SAT, why not in the future with 2 degrees, addl classes and 2 years+ work exp.

Numbers are okay, although a little under what I was hoping for and where I was in final practice tests, I messed up on a couple of questions and did not fill in an answer for one (unacceptable to not at least guess :(

3.754 Expected LSAC GPA from discussion with LSAC rep
3.94 Graduate GPA in MBA-Finance (3.9 overall, took two addl classes while working FT)
161 85th percentile LSAT

and from my posts from months ago when I first found this site, before going on break from hateraid, I am an African American male married with one child (just to supply situation information)
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: LawNOrder on July 08, 2004, 09:13:26 PM
Yeah the numbers range the gambit, but whatcha going to do?  This has been a tough year to apply to law school.  I am not sure how next year is going to look (if any better or worse).

To Enzyme, your numbers are great.  Just one thing to keep in mind.  It seems as though law school admissions don't care about graduate degrees or gpa's.  I thought mine would give me a boost, but no such luck.  I think they just pretty much look at undergrad gpa's (which in your case, you are still golden). Best of luck to ya!
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: lawyer2b on July 29, 2004, 12:59:32 PM
I got a letter from UT today saying that they are disbanding the waitlist.  I'm disappointed but not surprised.  I thought it was interesting that they kept me on the WL this long but then dropped me without waiting for possible no-shows during the start of classes in just a few weeks from now.  Anyone else get accepted from the WL recently or receive this letter?
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: Aurelius on July 30, 2004, 05:34:42 PM
I got the same letter today. Sucks, but you're right: not a surprise.

Does anybody have any thoughts/feelings about next year's applicant pool? Do those of us who didn't get in off the waitlist have a chance of getting in next year with the same numbers?

Also, is anybody here planning to apply to different schools for 2005? I'd be interested to know where we might stand a chance.
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: ccptexas on July 30, 2004, 06:19:06 PM
i agree.  i am a texas resident and i would LOVE to go to ut.  unfortunately for me, with a 161 and a 3.78, i didn't even make the wait list.  oh well. 
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: ccptexas on July 30, 2004, 06:21:33 PM
sorry enyzme.  don't mean to be discouraging, but i thought i would just let you know, with numbers that are almost exactly the same as yours and a degree from a top school, i was rejected.  however, i know people who got in with lower lsats and gpas, so keep trying.  good luck
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: Tezcatlipoca on July 30, 2004, 06:32:39 PM
I have a 3.1, do I stand a chance at UT??

I know some people who got in, but they had similar numbers to yours. Nothing as low as a 3.1.  :-[

Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: YodaJuice on July 30, 2004, 07:15:35 PM
I am new to this board.  I have a 3.91 UGPA and am in a Masters in Real Estate program where I will make a 4.0.  Other than a year or two of work experience, it sounds like I will have to spank the *&^% out of the LSAT to stand a chance at UT.  I <3 Texas too and will only go to a Texas public school.  What do you guys think I will need to make to guarantee a spot at UT? ::)
Title: Re: University of Texas Waitlist
Post by: ccptexas on July 31, 2004, 04:51:09 PM
yodajuice:  you should check out lawschoolnumbers.com.  that will give you an idea of the numbers of people who were accepted/rejected/waitlisted this year.  good luck.