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Title: Performance Enhancers
Post by: $ones on May 29, 2004, 07:31:14 PM
Hi I was wondering if anyone has any infromtaion regarding any performance enhancers that one may take. I've been speaking to a nutrionist on the matter and I've been recommended ginkgo biloba - it expands the capilliries which means more oxygen to your brain, salmon oil, and a daily vitamin.

Thanks...
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: nathanielmark on May 29, 2004, 07:33:16 PM
a cocaine suppository.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: M2 on May 29, 2004, 08:02:54 PM
Thats what made Al  Gore look like that.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: utaustin on May 30, 2004, 09:34:14 PM
a lot of asians eat fish, and that's supposed to help with brain development.

fish oil or whatever omega 3 fatty acids contained in fish help with memory recall. If you're going to start, do it now.

2 weeks out on the June LSAT.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: cyim123 on May 31, 2004, 03:51:36 AM
Adderol and Ridelin work well...
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: guyutegirl (Jew-Lo) on May 31, 2004, 10:08:08 AM
Hi I was wondering if anyone has any infromtaion regarding any performance enhancers that one may take. I've been speaking to a nutrionist on the matter and I've been recommended ginkgo biloba - it expands the capilliries which means more oxygen to your brain, salmon oil, and a daily vitamin.

Thanks...

First: Don't listen to your nutritionist-salmon oil? that's bullpucky. Is your nutritionist jewish? that may be the problem. You can't ever trust them (except for me). Terminate all contact with him. Screen all his calls. If he leaves a message, don't return his calls. Now that the pesky nutritionist is out of the way, look at the thread titled Adderall. At first, you may be swayed by the deterring effects of their arguments. Don't be. Remember: this whole process is competitive. They're all just kicking themselves for not taking adderall before their lsat's-or they either took it and it worked and they don't want anymore competition. This is what you need to do: find a friend with ADD or some other problem and get some Adderall. Now, take it before several different practive tests. Figure out how long it takes to kick in, when the urge to crap comes on, and how to time everything perfectly. You'll start to see your scores go up almost immediately. Time everything so you can take the adderall, crap and be fresh and on time for the test. And don't listen to people who say you're cheating if you're doing this. @#!* them. You're getting a leg up on the competition. It's a brutal world out there-they're not your friends. I am. I like you, a little naive but i like you. that's why i'm helping you. And don't ever do the salmon juice crap or whatever. None of that stuff does anything for you. it's just something nutitionists do to amuse themselves. They're like "hmm... in your case lets try a little cod oil, monkey cornea, and misquito balls...yes..that should all work just fine." Then they sit around and see if you actually do it, you do, they laugh their asses off, it doesn't work, you come back for me and they they're trying squid ears and horse crap. go with the adderall. 
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: HatchetHarry on June 01, 2004, 01:11:05 AM
If you can track down some 4-mar that would be better than anything else you could possibly take to help you with the LSAT.  If you cant find that I suggest either adderall, ritalin, meth-amphetamines, dexedrine, cocaine, or a combination of them. 
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: $ones on June 01, 2004, 10:09:25 PM
Thank you guyutegirl! I will visit as many doctors as I need to until I get it tommorow.

Adderall! Does it take effect immediately or would I have to take it for an indeterminate amount of time before I started noticing the effect.

I actually tried to get Adderall about 6 weeks ago but I got scared off when my doctor was completely against it; instead he recommended that I take Zoloft (the anti-depressant) to increase my concentration. Been on that for about 6 weeks. Havent noticed any spectacular change. Hopefully I can start Adderall tommorow.

Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: mesirow on June 01, 2004, 11:51:03 PM
Try cola nut ..
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: jacy85 on June 02, 2004, 06:55:12 AM
Thank you guyutegirl! I will visit as many doctors as I need to until I get it tommorow.

Are you looking for a friggin easy way out, or what?  Just study for the goddamn test, and forget about wasting time and money on drugs/supplements/whatever.  The money you're paying for this CRAP would be better spent on LSAT prep materials.  Mood enhancers are for people that have depression or other psychological problems.  Not for people who whine to their doctors about how they're scared about taking the LSATs.  The same for Adderall, for people that really do have problems focusing due to a form of ADD.

And am I the only one that feels that taking prescription drugs that are UNNECESSARY for your health and the doctors that write these scripts are very unethical? 
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: guyutegirl (Jew-Lo) on June 02, 2004, 07:27:06 AM
Thank you guyutegirl! I will visit as many doctors as I need to until I get it tommorow.

Adderall! Does it take effect immediately or would I have to take it for an indeterminate amount of time before I started noticing the effect.

I actually tried to get Adderall about 6 weeks ago but I got scared off when my doctor was completely against it; instead he recommended that I take Zoloft (the anti-depressant) to increase my concentration. Been on that for about 6 weeks. Havent noticed any spectacular change. Hopefully I can start Adderall tommorow.



No problem. I would like to take this opportunity to throw in a disclaimer. Anyway, like I was saying, don't worry about what other people say. They don't want you to get a leg up. Don't waste time thinking about that nonsense. Now, as far as Adderall is concerned, I'll give you the facts because I was being slighty facetious in my prior post. It's something that takes about a half hour (or less) to kick in. And you'll know when it kicks in. It's nothing like an SSRI or anything where you have to wait weeks for results. Plus, an SSRI won't do anything for your concentration (Noticeably, at least). It is not something you want to take for an indeterminate amount of time--unless it's medically necessary--because it can be habit-forming. I'm not surprised that your doctor is against it. They are unlikey to prescribe it (unless you have a *good* doctor) purely for concentration; if you're looking for a prescription, you would have to have (or acquire) an ailment that is alleviated from Adderall-also something not hard to do. There are (obviously) other ways to get it but i don't want to come off as more of an enabler than i already am (too late). And in terms of "mood enhancers that are not prescribed for people who whine to their doctors about taking the LSAT's"-@#!* that. If your doctor prescribed it for you, s/he may genuinly see an anxiety (or possible depression) problem. So don't listen to jacy about the zoloft thing. That's sounds legit. It's very effective on anxiety. And as far as the Adderall is concerned, use at your own risk. If you have personal "ethical" problems, don't use it. But i don't think that's really the case. It's usually the people who knock it who are or become neck deep in it. Ignore people trying to chastise you who don't want you to get a leg up on the competition. It's not their place to determine whether what you're doing is 'ethical' or not. They only reason i find that complaint particularly obnoxious is because for people who are concerned about helping you, they would talk to you about the effects it could have on your health, including addiction. People who bring in the "ethics" argument aren't interested in helping or informing you, they're looking out for #1 (which isn't necessarily bad, but you gotta be sure you don't invest any energy in listening to that because it's not an extension of information that benefits you) You do what you need to do for yourself, but be sure you know what you're dealing with.  :)
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: nathanielmark on June 02, 2004, 07:54:35 AM
i would have no qualms with taking it.  i used to take dex for ADD.  in all sincerity, i dont see how it could really help you.  its speed.  it could bump up your concentration a notch but you should have that effect just from adrenalin.  it can also make you feel high, and take focus away from work stuff because you feel good.

i would take it if i thought it would help, but i think it is a questionable approach at best.

jew-lo, how specifically did it help you?  did it help you with games, avoiding careless erros?  I am just curious
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: jacy85 on June 02, 2004, 07:55:05 AM
Get off your high horse.  Just to clarify, I am not only out for myself, and my rant concerning unnecessary prescription drugs has nothing to do with "looking out for #1."  If that were true, I wouldn't post on this board when people ask for help or advice.  I happen to feel very strongly, however, that "performance enhancers" are not the way for someone to go about getting "help."  You're right, Jew-Lo, I'm not interested in helping sones if it means advising him to waste time and money.  If he had questions about actually *studying*, sure.  But not for something I feel is unethical, inadvisable, and ineffective.

And my statement on ethics was nothing more than my opinion, as I'm very well aware.  I'm sure it's an opinion that some people share, and it's obviously one that quite a few disagree with.  In terms of being anxious for the test, I'll conceed that a doctor prescribing Zoloft could help.  It's for anxiety, however, not improved concentration in the sense that sones is looking for.

It's one thing to take Zoloft for anxiety.  Sones, however, is taking salmon oil, ginko-baloba stuff, zoloft, *and* is now looking to pair that with Adderall.  He seems more focused on improving his score with anything and everything but hard work.  There comes a point where loading yourself with supplements, herbs, vitamins and drugs will become detrimental to your health, and sure as hell won't help your lsat score.

So you advise for Adderall all you like.  We're all free to advocate whatever we like on this board.  And of course, Sones is free to do whatever he likes.  While he's out looking for whatever supplements/drugs he can find, however, I'll be at home, studying.  And we'll see which method is more effective.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: M2 on June 02, 2004, 07:58:11 AM
... There are (obviously) other ways to get it but i don't want to come off as more of an enabler than i already am (too late). And in terms of "mood enhancers that are not prescribed for people who whine to their doctors about taking the LSAT's"-@#!* that. If your doctor prescribed it for you, s/he may genuinly see an anxiety (or possible depression) problem. So don't listen to jacy about the zoloft thing. That's sounds legit. It's very effective on anxiety. And as far as the Adderall is concerned, use at your own risk....


Are you actually saying that adderall can be good for someone with anxiety?!?!
Sorry if I am misunderstanding you but that is some very bad advice...

Amphetamines for anxiety...

Amphetamines only serve to calm people that have a disorder like ADD(cant remember the term for this)...In most people they raise anxiety levels.

Although maybe you were referring to Zoloft?
If so that is also soem very bad advice...SSRIs are well known for reducing mental capacity and stifling logical ability. I can bring up the the relevant studies if you wish.

Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: nathanielmark on June 02, 2004, 08:03:39 AM
right SSRIs would be one of the worst thing to take if you want to boost your score.

... There are (obviously) other ways to get it but i don't want to come off as more of an enabler than i already am (too late). And in terms of "mood enhancers that are not prescribed for people who whine to their doctors about taking the LSAT's"-@#!* that. If your doctor prescribed it for you, s/he may genuinly see an anxiety (or possible depression) problem. So don't listen to jacy about the zoloft thing. That's sounds legit. It's very effective on anxiety. And as far as the Adderall is concerned, use at your own risk....


Are you actually saying that adderall can be good for someone with anxiety?!?!
Sorry if I am misunderstanding you but that is some very bad advice...

Amphetamines for anxiety...

Amphetamines only serve to calm people that have a disorder like ADD(cant remember the term for this)...In most people they raise anxiety levels.

Although maybe you were referring to Zoloft?
If so that is also soem very bad advice...SSRIs are well known for reducing mental capacity and stifling logical ability. I can bring up the the relevant studies if you wish.


Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: guyutegirl (Jew-Lo) on June 02, 2004, 08:43:44 AM
Listen, i wrote a follow up post after my initial post because i was being facetious, i thought it was evident so i didn't want to mislead sones. In terms of Zoloft, i don't think that will do *&^% for your LSAT, specifically. All i was saying in terms of Zoloft is that while Sones was seeing his doc, maybe the doc thought it ought to be presribed for him not for purposes of taking the LSAT, but because it may have been evident there are general levels of heightened anxiety, and possibly depression, and so it may have been prescribed for unrleated reasons. that's all. Egs: As far as my own personal experience with Adderall, it was prescribed for me for OCD. I don't have ADD or ADHD. My OCD would severely affect my test-taking abilities. I know a lot of people say they have OCD when they don't, some forms are more mild, and i know the idea that every prospective law student has to have OCD since they're going into law. So many people have it to so many different degrees that it's hard to qualify. But I've had it since i was really young, and while taking tests in college, i would start doing all that bizarre *&^% like counting, or requiring things involving even/odd numbers, to the point where i was totally involved in "evening things out" (an OCD thing) etc, that i couldn't even get to the questions. After trying a few things, my doctor finally prescribed Adderall and ever since, i can actually take the test without having to resort to counting, or those other things mental patients like me have to do. I know other people without any disorder, who take it to cocentrate, and they don't get all speedy, they actually can focus and get their *&^% done. Jacy: no disrespect, i know we may have conflicting views, it was just clear that Sones has no ethical qualms about using it. So i had just sorta moved on from the ethical discussion. No disrespect meant. Anyway, I ahve known a lot of people who have taken it (unprescribed) in college and it worked for them, they focused well, and did better overall. But maybe that won't be the case for you, Sones. I'm just saying from what i know with my experience and that of those around me, it's definitely helped them perform better overall.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: $ones on June 02, 2004, 10:26:21 AM
I appreciate your advice jew-lo and I LOVE you! I dont see it as unethical to take adderall. In my opinion, nutritional supplements or pharmaceuticals is just part of game, its an avenue that needs to be explored. If one feels like it can help their perfomance, its a choice one needs to make with oneself.

Jacy, I respect your opinion even though mine conflicts with it. But I dont think for a second that any drug will replace hard work and practice. I've been working very hard studying for approximately 6-7 weeks and I seek these peripheal measures as just that, a secondary component to a well rounded study plan.

ZOLOFT! WHAT THE @#!*? STIFLING LOGICAL ABILITY AND REDUCING MENTAL CAPACITY? M2 COULD YOU GIVE ME A LINK TO OR BRING UP THOSE STUDIES PLEASE. What do you guys think? Should I get off it? I think I had a mild depression when I started but I dont think I really need it. I took it soley to improve concentration. Do you know if there somekind of rebound effect if I get off it abruptly?
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: nathanielmark on June 02, 2004, 10:28:29 AM
how long have you been on zoloft?  if its been a long time then coming off it will do more to disrupt your thought processes then to help it.  the cognitive effects of zoloft are primarily transient.  i dont think it will matter much if you have been taking it for a while.

if you just started then i would stop ASAP, unless you need it to function.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: $ones on June 02, 2004, 10:30:23 AM
Been on it exactly 34 days....
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: nathanielmark on June 02, 2004, 10:35:30 AM

that actually sucks.  if you quit taking it you will go thru withdrawel.  2 weeks before the test you will probably still be experiencing the effects.  its also short enough that it is probably still having subtle effects on your thinking.

i doubt it will impact your score greatly, but could make a slight difference.

Been on it exactly 34 days....
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: jacy85 on June 02, 2004, 10:41:09 AM
People that have suddenly gone off antidepressants have had severe reactions.  Major withdrawal symptoms, often with debilitating pain, sensitivity to light, severe headaches, and other horrors.  It's only come to light recently, and there've been news shows and magazine articles with stories of people dealing with it.  I'm not sure what the prevalence of such reactions are, but they're getting more attention.  Even without these physical symptoms, I'm not sure how the drugs affect your body, but it'd make sense to me that there would be the possiblity of suffering depression afterwards, or what would seem like depression in comparison to how the drug made you feel.  I also don't know how long the people with these debilitating withdrawal symptoms were on the meds.  Here are two links with some info.

http://www.add-adhd-help-center.com/Depression/zoloft_withdrawal.htm

http://www.healthyplace.com/Communities/Depression/treatment/antidepressants/discontinuation_events.asp

I'd talk to your doctor about going off before doing so.

Incidently, side effects, possible senarios for eventually going off the meds, etc should all be questions considered *before* going on any medication.  I think a lot of people, when going on meds for reasons I would consider wrong (non-medical reasons), fail to consider these aspects before hand.  In that respect, despite our differing opinions, I think Jew-Lo's advice about knowing what you're getting into was wise.  I think this is also possibly a good reason for not trying any *more* prescription drugs if your doctor is against is (ie the adderall)
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: $ones on June 02, 2004, 10:59:01 AM
Seems like one of those damned if I do and damned if I dont situations. Its probably best that I stay on now. As the effects are transient, I've probably (I'm hoping) that the worst of the effects is behind me.

I feel that I've had a clearer mind the last couple of weeks and am sharper now than I have been in years. IMHO, I dont think zoloft has affected my mental capacity, but if I could do it all over again, I wouldn't take the chance.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: jacy85 on June 02, 2004, 11:19:15 AM
I've never heard of zoloft hindering mental capacity, I just don't think it helps any.  I'm sure the withdrawal of the drug might, so I agree that to be safe, you'd be better off staying on it until after the LSAT, then seeing your doctor.

And it's possible that you had a minor anxiety/depression problem that, although not majorly affecting your life, is further diminished with the drug.  There are lots of other side effects though that should be considered if you decide to stay on zoloft for a significant period of time.  My room mate has been on anti depressants for the past 3 years, and she's most annoyed by the sexual side effects that build up and worsen over time.   :P
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: $ones on June 02, 2004, 07:07:16 PM
Apparently Adderall is not available here in Canada... my doc gave me dexadrine today... any thoughts?
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: nathanielmark on June 02, 2004, 07:09:12 PM
dex is better then adderal.  you lucked out.  its more of a purified form.  let me know if it helps.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: M2 on June 02, 2004, 07:10:59 PM
Apparently Adderall is not available here in Canada... my doc gave me dexadrine today... any thoughts?

Dexedrine is dexamphetamine wheras adderal is a mix of amphetamine and dextroamphetamine...its *basically* the same thing,..or pretty close anyway.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: $ones on June 02, 2004, 07:19:02 PM
I took a pill today about 1.5 hrs before my exam with a cup of coffee... felt kind of jittery for the first half of the exam but the second half I was cool... apparently for the first couple of days I'm only gonna feel the stimulant effects of the drug and after that I can expect to see the heightened levels of concentration/focus...
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: M2 on June 02, 2004, 07:21:36 PM
You may want to lay off the coffee a bit when taking it... two stimulants together are more likely to make you jittery.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: nathanielmark on June 02, 2004, 07:26:24 PM
very true.  when i used to take dex my caffeine intake plummeted to nothing (without me trying), you just lost the need for it.

sones, did you score higher then you had been before?
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: thinknpositive on June 02, 2004, 07:41:44 PM
dex is better then adderal.  you lucked out.  its more of a purified form.  let me know if it helps.
Dex made me too jittery.  For me, Dex was more of a party drug.  Addies were better for studying and writing papers.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: $ones on June 02, 2004, 09:51:46 PM
No I didnt score higher than before (today's score was 164 - the last one in the list below)... but I'm almost certain that was due to other factors (bit of a burnout, and starting the newer version of the practice tests - bombed the games section last 2 exams). I'm taking tommorow off from writing exams but I'll continue my doses of Dex and then see how it goes Friday - which will be my 3rd day of Dex...
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: nathanielmark on June 03, 2004, 07:48:04 AM
are you taking spansules or short acting? 5, 10 0r 15MG?
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: $ones on June 03, 2004, 10:07:49 AM
spansules.. 10mg
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: $ones on June 03, 2004, 06:11:11 PM
I said the hell with taking a day off and wrote an exam today, got killed again in the games(16/24) and got a 166 overall... 2nd day of Dex... I popped one pill at 10:30am and another at 1:00 pm - I took an exam at 1:20pm and noticed I started feeling tired around 3:30 today and got a headache around 5:00pm. Yesterday I took 1 pill at 1:30 pm and started getting tired with a headache around 6:30... Seems like I get tired about 5hrs after I take pill. My doc has instructed me to take 1 pill in the morning and one in the afternoon... Anybody with thoughts/suggestions/ or insights?
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: M2 on June 03, 2004, 06:44:33 PM
I said the hell with taking a day off and wrote an exam today, got killed again in the games(16/24) and got a 166 overall... 2nd day of Dex... I popped one pill at 10:30am and another at 1:00 pm - I took an exam at 1:20pm and noticed I started feeling tired around 3:30 today and got a headache around 5:00pm. Yesterday I took 1 pill at 1:30 pm and started getting tired with a headache around 6:30... Seems like I get tired about 5hrs after I take pill. My doc has instructed me to take 1 pill in the morning and one in the afternoon... Anybody with thoughts/suggestions/ or insights?

Can I ask when you are taking the LSAT and what your goal is as far as score goes?
You seem to be doing pretty well looking at your score history.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: nathanielmark on June 03, 2004, 07:11:37 PM
it may be causing you more harm then good.  seriously, i used to have an RX for Dex and also focalin.  ive taken the adderall also.  i didnt see for myself how it could possibly help me.  if you find you cant focus on the the LSAT then it could benefit you but its speed and it could have other effects on your thinking that you did not want.

it could be that you will gain better concentration without the other effects once you are taking it for some time.  but it could wind up making you worse off then before.  i am actually a little relieved because if your scores shot up i would probably paying my old doc a visit.  a lot of my careless errors in games i think are related to my ADD and if i could take something to help me with that i would.  as i said though, i thought the costs would outweigh the benefits.


I said the hell with taking a day off and wrote an exam today, got killed again in the games(16/24) and got a 166 overall... 2nd day of Dex... I popped one pill at 10:30am and another at 1:00 pm - I took an exam at 1:20pm and noticed I started feeling tired around 3:30 today and got a headache around 5:00pm. Yesterday I took 1 pill at 1:30 pm and started getting tired with a headache around 6:30... Seems like I get tired about 5hrs after I take pill. My doc has instructed me to take 1 pill in the morning and one in the afternoon... Anybody with thoughts/suggestions/ or insights?
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: $ones on June 03, 2004, 07:45:01 PM
I'm writing the test this June 14 (1 week after my birthday!). My goal is 175 but honestly I'll take anything over 170. I was moving along nicely until I moved on to the more recent exams and experienced a bit of culture shock with the games. Even though I didnt score highly on them today, I felt more comfortable and hopefully I'll stabilize around 20/24.

The jury is still out as far as Dex goes. My doc said to me that everyone reacts to amphetimines differently but if I were to experience the hightened concentration/focus, it wouldnt be until I had been taking the drug for a couple of days. Also, the pharmacist at the drug store told me some of the transient (my new favorite word since I saw Green use it) side effects that possibly could occur were nausea, headaches, insomnia - but these too often dissipate after a few days.

So I'm taking the wait and see approach, if by this upcoming Monday I feel the cost outweigh the benefits, I'll discontinue Dex.

Another factor I have to throw in is that I've written exams for 5 straight days now. Before this recent streak, 3 straight days had been my max, and I usually went 2 days on, 1 day off. However time has become much more of a premium (like these damn gas prices) since the 2 week buzzer sounded.

And by the way I took your advice Green. I ordered the most recent exams from lsac. And in case you guys didnt know about this option, I called them up directly and asked them to FedEx me the exams, they do this for an extra $12 US per package (thankfully not per book, although no shock here if they did).

GO FLAMES GO
GO LAKERS GO
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: $ones on June 03, 2004, 09:01:03 PM
Where's Jew-Lo? I miss her.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: nathanielmark on June 03, 2004, 09:10:25 PM
shes around.  but shes more likely to show up in a thread about brown showers then one about LSAT prep. 
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: guyutegirl (Jew-Lo) on June 03, 2004, 09:56:37 PM
shes around.  but shes more likely to show up in a thread about brown showers then one about LSAT prep. 

Nonsense egs! I saw YOU tell someone to eat ass the other day!!! (i'm doing a victory dance right now) I knew you had it in you...only a matter of time before it came out  ;)

Sones-so niced to be missed! This is one of the few threads where i've actually made an attempt to cut the bull, stop f-ing around and offer my advice. So here's my advice (i'm cringing from the backlash) actually maybe i should rephrase: it's not advice, it's just a possiblity. Take 2 pills at once. Now, don't listen to me. I mean, it may not be a good idea (obviously taking Rx not as prescribed is not sound advice but that is reserved for people who do everything by the book). How do you feel after taking a dex? is it pleasant or do you feel jittery? Do you feel focused and get pissed off by anything that distracts you from your precious practice test? (That's a good sign) One thing to be careful of is timing. Sometimes, you can get so focused on a question that you can't tear yourself away from it and there's an inhuman degree of tenacity that doesn't allow you to move on cuz goddamnit, whether you're up all night for the next 3 nights you're gonna figure this *&^% out? (That's a bad sign)
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: againandagain on June 03, 2004, 11:22:43 PM
Don't be stupid: Adderall does not work ... the only thing that may work is the good ole coke ...
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: $ones on June 04, 2004, 12:37:07 PM
2 pills at once? Just a reminder that that they are 10mg spansules. With that in mind, is it still a good idea? I feel pleasant and stimulated after taking the dex, but I'm not sure if the focus part has kicked in yet. Havent experience jitters since I nixed the coffee. Also, I've been real tired in the evenings after taking it - approx 5hrs after my dose until the time I go to bed.

I need a break. No exams today, I've written one 5 days straight. I got caught up in my obsession last night and wrote an exam last night that went from 11pm - 2am. It was my second practice test of the day and I was sleepy and crashing from dex. I got a 164 - but numerous LR/RC questions were wrong because I was not reading closely and found myself not finishing off reading passages as well as answer choices. Also got 1/6 on a game where I misread a simple conditon. Signs of burnout? I'm trying to force myself to take a day off but its soo hard to pull myself away.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: M2 on June 04, 2004, 12:59:55 PM
You may seriously want to consider just taking timed sections.
I find that I can get 7-8 separate timed sections in one day easily...where two whole tests would absolutely kill me

Just a suggestion

Although I definitely understand the value of full tests, I simply cannot bare to take more than a fewm ore before the real thing.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: hahahahahaha on June 04, 2004, 05:48:13 PM
sones, what kind of moron are you with this sequence?

173-163-161-164-170-166-167-169-171-169-167-164-166-164

Can't ya see the more logical one compiled by M2? Why don't you compose smth similar to that ?

Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: $ones on June 04, 2004, 06:25:35 PM
sones, what kind of moron are you with this sequence?

173-163-161-164-170-166-167-169-171-169-167-164-166-164

Can't ya see the more logical one compiled by M2? Why don't you compose smth similar to that ?






I wish it was consistent like M2's. I'm confident in a couple of days the sequence will be rising again. But your still a female private part for coming on like that.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: ornament on June 04, 2004, 06:52:25 PM
Is the pic on your avatar yours, sones? I think I'll steal it to upload it on other boards as being me, if you'll allow me to do so, of course,,lol 
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: nathanielmark on June 04, 2004, 07:16:24 PM
sones that guy is a major a-hole (talking about your scores).  everyone i have seen prepping here seriously has the same bounce around problem with scores.  everyone has a range, i think the key is to get your range as high as possible and then hope you have a great day when you take the test.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: M2 on June 04, 2004, 07:29:58 PM
sones that guy is a major a-hole (talking about your scores).  everyone i have seen prepping here seriously has the same bounce around problem with scores.  everyone has a range, i think the key is to get your range as high as possible and then hope you have a great day when you take the test.

My scores have been more erratic the past few tests but since they were sections (separated by days) I haven't posted them.

Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: $ones on June 04, 2004, 07:30:51 PM
sones that guy is a major a-hole (talking about your scores).  everyone i have seen prepping here seriously has the same bounce around problem with scores.  everyone has a range, i think the key is to get your range as high as possible and then hope you have a great day when you take the test.

Knowing that is reassuring, thanks. I'm not gonna dwell on my past couple of scores anymore. They are forgotten and I'm gonna concentrate on just refreshing myself.
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: supremerapper on June 08, 2004, 06:56:24 PM
sones = GreenEsqnHam = mofo
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: nathanielmark on June 08, 2004, 07:22:56 PM
ill take that as a compliment coming from someone with that skank and her kiddie-rave crew in their avatar.

sones = GreenEsqnHam = mofo
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: guyutegirl (Jew-Lo) on June 08, 2004, 07:57:55 PM
ill take that as a compliment coming from someone with that skank and her kiddie-rave crew in their avatar.

sones = GreenEsqnHam = mofo


LMFAO!!!


2 pills at once? Just a reminder that that they are 10mg spansules. With that in mind, is it still a good idea?

Yeah, i've never been an advocate of moderation, or taking anything as prescribed. So maybe i'm not the best person to listen to...that aside, well, you'd just have to try it for yourself. Don't listen to me.  :-X
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: M2 on June 08, 2004, 07:59:37 PM

Supremerapper,

(http://ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/whocares5.jpg)
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: $ones on June 08, 2004, 11:11:08 PM
hahaha.. I wasnt even gonna respond to this bull but this shits funny.. no pun intended
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: shalom11 on June 11, 2004, 04:18:41 AM
maybe sones is M2?
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: M2 on June 11, 2004, 08:15:04 AM
maybe sones is M2?

Only M2 is M2.
I have no need for another identity
Title: Re: Performance Enhancers
Post by: menses1 on March 13, 2005, 08:32:59 PM
M2, are you in law school by now?