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Law Students => Online Law Schools => Topic started by: Wild Jack Maverick on March 18, 2006, 09:26:09 AM

Title: Something different: Novus University
Post by: Wild Jack Maverick on March 18, 2006, 09:26:09 AM
Has anyone else ever heard of Novus University, which offers  academic, law and LLM degree programs?

It is accredited only by the WAUC, very low cost, and it seems it is categorized somewhere between a diploma mill and an actual online program (as it actually requires 3 years for the JD degree, or less for an accelerated program) with the same curriculum as most law schools.

The school does not operate purely from a base location, but consists of Mail and Information Centers. It has open admission, and requirements for admission similar to those of California DL law schools. The website does not mention actual instructors, but Mentors, which makes me wonder if it is a basically self-study program, or a correspondence course type of program. It also sort of sounds as if it is a supplement for those studying by apprenticeship.

The school does not guarantee that it prepares anyone for the bar exam, admission to the Bar, or that it meets any requirements for career advancement, and is very explicit when saying that it is the student's responsibility to determine if what the school offers can fulfill the requirements of various states or the student's needs and expectations.
Title: Re: Something different: Novus University
Post by: law4justice on April 02, 2006, 08:46:58 PM
I am currently enrolled in the Novus University Juris Doctor Law program. I enrolled because I work full time and unable to attend SMU Law program. Please understand that the bricks and mortar versus virtual will win out for some time to come, not because the students are smarter, but online would take too much from traditional law schools. This is my 3rd year with novus, a member of the new york state bar association, and on their wills and trust committe. When I join the bar association, the a[[lication used stated that I was a NovusU law student. With the anticipation of getting a law degree, I will start my own law firm with a correspondant out of new york, which is where one should probably seek setting for the bar from a online school.
Title: Re: Something different: Novus University
Post by: Wild Jack Maverick on April 06, 2006, 10:46:46 AM
Could you provide some experienced opinions about the school, the policies, the structure of the programs, and the textbooks?
Title: Re: Something different: Novus University
Post by: law4justice on April 10, 2006, 06:18:14 PM
I have thought through your question carefully, and this time will hold any comment on the school or it's policies.
Title: Re: Something different: Novus University
Post by: Wild Jack Maverick on April 11, 2006, 08:09:22 AM
...and hence, Novus University remains a mystery.

Thus far, asking Novus for information via email results with no response.

Contacting the WAUC results with a forwarded email to Novus, which results with a
standardized email from Novus stating that you have completed the application process, now please complete the registration form.

If you have any questions, please call the toll free number.
Title: Re: Something different: Novus University
Post by: law4justice on April 16, 2006, 10:44:25 PM
hello Jack

This is law4justice, and would like to inquire into the type of law studies you are involved in ?
Title: Re: Something different: Novus University
Post by: duckasourus on April 16, 2006, 10:51:47 PM
do us all a favor and move to Canada, not responding just confirms your law school is a joke.
Title: Re: Something different: Novus University
Post by: law4justice on April 17, 2006, 08:35:44 PM
No, not moving to Canada. You are a american citizen, I suppose. Just call them up and interview with Dr. Thomas Phd. JD. I sure he will advise you if you are law student material. I do not get the point of these discussions. If you are enrolled in any law program, I am trying to figure out when you have the time to talk to anybody.I currently read Gilbert Law Summary's and have a final project to complete which is 50 to 75 pages long. I practice on Amicus Attorney law office software. I am registered with the LSAC, take mediation courses at SMU Plano campus, plan to take bar in New York, one of the states that allow Distance Learning to sit for bar. So stop trying to take the easy street to be a license attorney, you know, those perople that are officer's of the court. Do something Pro Bono, help some learn the law, get a life. I happened upon this site by mistake, which has proven to be a worthless mistake. Was looking for some good law students. apparently not here.
Title: Re: Something different: Novus University
Post by: lovethegirls on April 17, 2006, 08:42:30 PM
The spelling errors shows how bad your school really is, "So stop trying to take the easy street to be a license attorney, you know, those perople that are officer's of the court"  I count at least 2 errors in that sentence!
Title: Re: Something different: Novus University
Post by: law4justice on April 18, 2006, 07:49:18 PM
I suppose now we are at the right forum. I do not want to talk how bad or good DL schools are. I will eventually end up at SMU. My purpose with this program is to study new york and texas law. If you are that curious about novus, I will discuss my course of studies thus far and what you can expect. They have a good enough program to be accepted by UPS, who is my employer, and possibley a position as a labor attorney with the company. Remember, judges do not throw documents out of court because of a word misspelled. They just strike through the word. If you have passed the lsat, and enrolled in a 4 year law school, why are you wasting your time on this section of the website?
Title: Re: Something different: Novus University
Post by: Wild Jack Maverick on April 20, 2006, 07:22:40 AM
Pardon me. I was not attempting to criticize Novus U., but was simply asking for the information---in writing-- because I wouldn't want "false advertising" or "breach of oral contract" as the first course.

I sent a response email to Novus stating that I had not yet applied and was simply asking for the information. No response.
Title: Re: Something different: Novus University
Post by: MuscularBitch on September 20, 2006, 07:18:57 AM
Is there anyone out there who attends Law School at Novus University?
Title: NOVUS LAW SCHOOL
Post by: james1968 on January 31, 2007, 06:57:46 AM
Does anyone know anything about Novus Law School? I have been researching the JD program and recently looked for them in the Better Business site and they have had no complaints in th eten years they have been in operation, they dod have a very lengthy form you must sign that prevents you from taking any legal actions against them. Is this school a fake? Has anyone been scammed by them? Haas anyone graduated from this school and if so how was your JD accepted?
Title: Re: Something different: Novus University
Post by: brewha on January 31, 2007, 07:55:58 AM

I sent a response email to Novus stating that I had not yet applied and was simply asking for the information. No response.

Shouldn't this alone alert you to the fact that the school is likely a scam/not good/tending to be bad/etc. ???
Title: Re: Something different: Novus University
Post by: shady2009 on January 31, 2007, 09:02:32 AM
You should check with the State Bar where you plan to practice.  Many, if not most states require that you graduate from an ABA accredited law school before being admitted.

They might also be able to tell you what Novus grads are doing. 
Title: Re: Something different: Novus University
Post by: james1968 on January 31, 2007, 03:50:14 PM
I made the call to the ABA and they told me no distance learning school met their qualifications and when I aksed about Novus, Concorde and ALU they told me they had no comment on any of them except those schools are not a member of ABA.
Title: Re: Something different: Novus University
Post by: wparalegal on February 27, 2007, 07:15:22 AM
I just checked out on line to see if Novus, which I was considering, was ABA certified, and no, it isn't.  My plan was to go the easy route (no snide comments, please) and learn how to be a lawyer by distance learning, pass the Missouri Bar and set up shop.  But this is not possible through Novus, and no distance learning school has been ABA approved.  So no, don't waste your time and money and hopes and dreams.  Unfortunately, the only way to do it, at least in Missouri, is to do the hard work of a regular law school.  Drat the luck.
Title: Re: Something different: Novus University
Post by: Sako on February 27, 2007, 07:31:47 AM
... plan to take bar in New York, one of the states that allow Distance Learning to sit for bar.

Where do you see that DL students can sit for the NY bar?  I thought that NY was one of the states the expressly forbid it?

If I'm reading this wrong or you have better information, please let me know.  I'm from NY, and assumed I would never be licensed in the state.


From http://www.nybarexam.org/court.htm#520.2%20Admission%20upon%20examination (http://www.nybarexam.org/court.htm#520.2%20Admission%20upon%20examination)


520.3 Study of law in law school. (a)(1) General. Except as otherwise provided in paragraph (2) of this subdivision, an applicant may qualify to take the New York State bar examination by submitting to the New York State Board of Law Examiners satisfactory proof that the applicant attended and was graduated with a first degree in law from a law school or law schools which at all times during the period of applicant's attendance was or were approved.

(2) An applicant may qualify to take the New York State bar examination by submitting to the New York State Board of Law Examiners satisfactory proof that applicant attended and successfully completed the prescribed course of instruction required for a first degree in law, but the State Board of Law Examiners shall not certify the applicant for admission to the bar pursuant to section 520.7(a) of this Part until the applicant has presented a certificate showing that the applicant has been awarded a first degree in law.

(b) Approved law school defined. An approved law school for purposes of these rules is one:

    (1) whose program and course of study meet the requirements of this section, as shown by the law school's bulletin or catalogue, which shall be filed annually with the Clerk of the Court of Appeals; and

    (2) which is approved by the American Bar Association.

(c) Instructional requirement. (1) An approved law school shall require for its first degree in law the successful completion of either a full-time or a part-time program which consists of:

    (i) a minimum of 80 semester hours of credit, including at least 60 semester hours in professional law subjects. A maximum of 20 of the required 80 semester hours may be courses related to legal training or clinical courses as provided in sections (2) and (5) of this subdivision;

    (ii) at least 1,120 hours of classroom study, exclusive of examination time

    (2) Other courses related to legal training taught by members of the faculty of said law school or university, or taught by members of the faculty of any university or college with which the law school offers a joint degree program, may, in the discretion of the law school, be substituted for professional law subjects to the extent of no more than 10 of the required 80 semester hours.

    (3) No credit shall be allowed for correspondence courses.

    (4) All study shall be evaluated by authentic written examination, except where such examination is inappropriate, such as in seminar and practice court courses or courses which are principally concerned with legal writing and research.

    (5) Clinical and like courses may, in the discretion of the law school, be substituted for classroom periods to the extent of no more than 20 of the required 80 semester hours, where:

    (i) a description of the course has been filed with the Clerk of the Court of Appeals, either separately or in the law school's annual catalogue or bulletin;

    (ii) the course is under the direct and immediate supervision of a member or members of the faculty;

    (iii) the course includes adequate classroom meetings or seminars during the same semester in which the clinical work is completed in order to insure contemporaneous, discussion review and evaluation of the clinical experience; and

    (iv) the law school certificate of attendance filed with the New York State Board of Law Examiners lists separately the credit allowed for clinical courses or other non classroom study.