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Title: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Kelly on April 17, 2005, 11:22:51 AM
For people who do not like public speaking (like myself) yet still want to get into litigation and are nervous about the whole speaking in front of crowds (like myself)- do you recommend a course like ToastMaster's or something along those lines?

Thanks all!
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: kristin1644 on April 17, 2005, 02:00:46 PM
You don't like public speaking but want to be a litigator?  That's interesting...
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Kelly on April 17, 2005, 03:55:49 PM
yup! :-\

You don't like public speaking but want to be a litigator?  That's interesting...
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: sharmaine73 on April 17, 2005, 05:06:01 PM
I feel the same way!  I don't want to be a litigator though.  But you will have to do plenty of speaking in front of people in law school -- in class, moot court, etc.  What I try to do, if I can, is just be very prepared.  I will sometimes resort to reading note cards.  I also remind myself to slow down when I am speaking.  This gives me time to think about what I am going to say so the words come out right. If don't do this, I am liable to get flustered.  I have also resorted, at times, to pretending I am someone I admire in the oratory area.  This works too. Of course sometimes it's so bad that my knees feel like they are going to buckle and I start seeing stars.  At times like that, there's nothing for it. If I have note cards I read them , if I don't, I just pray for it all to be over before I lose consciousness...

However,I am told that the more you do it, the easier it becomes.

It will be important to learn how to maintain a cool head.  There are blowhards in law school that like nothing more than to see you get flustered.
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: onehandedreader on April 17, 2005, 06:45:28 PM
the best advice i can give is the same thing one of my professors told the class on the first day: "don't like speaking in front of people?  Get over it."  you'll get plenty of practice in your first year, and if you want to be a litigator you're going to need it.
At the very least, you're going to have to answer your prof's questions while the rest of your class listens.  We also do alot of oral advocacy at my school, if yours is anything like it, at some point in your first year you'll be performing oral arguments in front of a panel of judges.  never in front of crowds, though.   
The easiest way to get over it, is to realize that it's not a big deal, even if you think you sound stupid.  most people do, when asked to answer without preparing a speech.  go to class prepared, but understand that your teacher will likely ask you questions that can't be answered by looking it up in your book or notes, and also it's better to pause and think about it for a second than to be halfway through an answer, and realize you don't want to go that direction. 
don't throw your money away on a class for this.
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Kelly on April 17, 2005, 08:39:09 PM
This is great advice!! Thank you for this!  I do hope I get over it quick! :-\

the best advice i can give is the same thing one of my professors told the class on the first day: "don't like speaking in front of people?  Get over it."  you'll get plenty of practice in your first year, and if you want to be a litigator you're going to need it.
At the very least, you're going to have to answer your prof's questions while the rest of your class listens.  We also do alot of oral advocacy at my school, if yours is anything like it, at some point in your first year you'll be performing oral arguments in front of a panel of judges.  never in front of crowds, though.   
The easiest way to get over it, is to realize that it's not a big deal, even if you think you sound stupid.  most people do, when asked to answer without preparing a speech.  go to class prepared, but understand that your teacher will likely ask you questions that can't be answered by looking it up in your book or notes, and also it's better to pause and think about it for a second than to be halfway through an answer, and realize you don't want to go that direction. 
don't throw your money away on a class for this.
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: lawgirl on April 19, 2005, 07:24:46 PM
For people who do not like public speaking (like myself) yet still want to get into litigation and are nervous about the whole speaking in front of crowds (like myself)- do you recommend a course like ToastMaster's or something along those lines?

Thanks all!

I, like you, was extremely nervous when I started law school. In undergrad, I put off my speech class until the last possible minute. I hated it.

When I started law school, I realized that I would have to get over it because I really wanted to be a litigator. At my original law school, they made you stand to recite the cases and you regularly got grilled by the professor about the cases so that kind of stressed me out in the beginning. But honestly, that is one of the best things that will help you. You will get used to it. I kind of looked at it like a challenge: it was a challenge for me in terms of making sure I knew the material, but it also helped lessen the anxiety. The more you do it, better you will feel about it.

I would advise to try to get involved in anything that will force you to go out there and confront it. I think a ToastMasters class is an excellent idea. Even if you don't do that, you will have plenty of opportunities in law school to confront your anxiety. Many schools have an oral argument requirement in one of the research and writing classes. You can also do Moot Court or things like that. After awhile, you will feel better about it.

I finally started getting over it when I had to do some mock oral arguments in front of real judges. I still have plenty of areas to work on, but I don't get nearly as stressed as I used to. Now, it seems like I turned a corner and something else took over. I absolutely love the feeling of it because I feel much more confident and it is a chance to really use the skills you have gained from researching the law and making legal arguments.

Treat it like a personal challenge and don't let it get in the way of what you really want.
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: carrie on April 19, 2005, 07:29:43 PM
Trust me, once you get to law school- you will have no choice but to speak up and speak out!

For people who do not like public speaking (like myself) yet still want to get into litigation and are nervous about the whole speaking in front of crowds (like myself)- do you recommend a course like ToastMaster's or something along those lines?

Thanks all!
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Kelly on April 20, 2005, 10:27:26 AM
Thanks everyone! ;)
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: theexterminator on April 27, 2005, 07:09:56 PM
The whole idea of going to law school and becoming a lawyer is this "public speaking" thing! So, if you're not good at arguing and talking with these big f-ing words, choose smth else to do!
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: birddog on May 03, 2005, 09:47:45 AM
Also, oddly, there are plenty of litigation jobs in which you don't really speak that much in public.  Often litigation is about writing, filing, and negotiating.  I know some partners that have never argued a case (though they have had to go to court for other things like settlement agreements).  OTOH there are types of litigation that involve tons of courtroom time - just depends.
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: zilla on June 01, 2005, 08:08:13 PM
i'm going into litigation (after I get past that pesky bar this summer). I think the law school process will do a lot to help you. you have no choice BUT to talk when it comes to the socratic method.  The key is to know you will at some point say something entirely wrong or ridiculous in class. just accept the fact and be ready to laugh it off. Nobody will think any less of you, because it will happen to them.
One practice point though: if you have a study group, really work on talking to them. You'll find that discussing points of law in front of just a few people is a good way to train yourself for litigation. Make an effort to respond to the questions of your group in a thoughtful manner. Keep in mind, most of the time you spend in court is with the parties and the judge, and a jury in the rare case. So start with the small groups and think of the room as chambers. 
Also, get in a trial advocacy class or some sort of trial tactics class: you'll do a lot of talking and the practice helps. even goofy things like karaoke can help you: if you can make a fool of yourself on that level, talking about law suddenly carries a much lesser chance of embarrassment.
Anyway...i clerked in the litigation group of a big firm, and most of the work you do involves hours on lexis and quality time writing!
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: danlauer on June 03, 2005, 01:09:41 AM
For people who do not like public speaking (like myself) yet still want to get into litigation and are nervous about the whole speaking in front of crowds (like myself)- do you recommend a course like ToastMaster's or something along those lines?

Thanks all!

I, like you, was extremely nervous when I started law school. In undergrad, I put off my speech class until the last possible minute. I hated it.

When I started law school, I realized that I would have to get over it because I really wanted to be a litigator. At my original law school, they made you stand to recite the cases and you regularly got grilled by the professor about the cases so that kind of stressed me out in the beginning. But honestly, that is one of the best things that will help you. You will get used to it. I kind of looked at it like a challenge: it was a challenge for me in terms of making sure I knew the material, but it also helped lessen the anxiety. The more you do it, better you will feel about it.

I would advise to try to get involved in anything that will force you to go out there and confront it. I think a ToastMasters class is an excellent idea. Even if you don't do that, you will have plenty of opportunities in law school to confront your anxiety. Many schools have an oral argument requirement in one of the research and writing classes. You can also do Moot Court or things like that. After awhile, you will feel better about it.

I finally started getting over it when I had to do some mock oral arguments in front of real judges. I still have plenty of areas to work on, but I don't get nearly as stressed as I used to. Now, it seems like I turned a corner and something else took over. I absolutely love the feeling of it because I feel much more confident and it is a chance to really use the skills you have gained from researching the law and making legal arguments.

Treat it like a personal challenge and don't let it get in the way of what you really want.

If professors begin to grill you respond to them using some nasty and/or sarcastic word -- they will shut the fuk up!
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Mary on June 03, 2005, 08:02:34 PM
That's a great way to get off on the right foot!

For people who do not like public speaking (like myself) yet still want to get into litigation and are nervous about the whole speaking in front of crowds (like myself)- do you recommend a course like ToastMaster's or something along those lines?

Thanks all!

I, like you, was extremely nervous when I started law school. In undergrad, I put off my speech class until the last possible minute. I hated it.

When I started law school, I realized that I would have to get over it because I really wanted to be a litigator. At my original law school, they made you stand to recite the cases and you regularly got grilled by the professor about the cases so that kind of stressed me out in the beginning. But honestly, that is one of the best things that will help you. You will get used to it. I kind of looked at it like a challenge: it was a challenge for me in terms of making sure I knew the material, but it also helped lessen the anxiety. The more you do it, better you will feel about it.

I would advise to try to get involved in anything that will force you to go out there and confront it. I think a ToastMasters class is an excellent idea. Even if you don't do that, you will have plenty of opportunities in law school to confront your anxiety. Many schools have an oral argument requirement in one of the research and writing classes. You can also do Moot Court or things like that. After awhile, you will feel better about it.

I finally started getting over it when I had to do some mock oral arguments in front of real judges. I still have plenty of areas to work on, but I don't get nearly as stressed as I used to. Now, it seems like I turned a corner and something else took over. I absolutely love the feeling of it because I feel much more confident and it is a chance to really use the skills you have gained from researching the law and making legal arguments.

Treat it like a personal challenge and don't let it get in the way of what you really want.

If professors begin to grill you respond to them using some nasty and/or sarcastic word -- they will shut the fuk up!
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: hmusd on June 08, 2005, 11:36:21 AM
I am glad you started this thread, Mary.

I also hate speaking in front of crowds, and it only gets worse the older I get.  I was okay with it in undergrad, but now that I have been out of college for 4 yrs., it terrifies me. 

I was surprised when I first learned we would have to get up and argue in front of judges the first year of law school, and it scares me half to death, but I think it will be good in the end because I will have conquered a fear.  I think it is a vast MINORITY of people that are naturally comfortable with public speaking, so we are mostly all in the same boat.  The thing I try to remember is that I always think I sound dumber than everyone else who is listening does. 
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: rapunzel on June 08, 2005, 07:10:51 PM
                                                                                     I have many years of training as an actor from way back before law school was even in the picture.  All of the advice so far has been good, but I have some thoughts from a different angle.

What happens when you speak in public is that adrenaline starts pumping and the brain goes on over-drive.  Instead of being able to concentrate on the message you would like to convey or how to be persuasive and connect with your audience you become fixated with how you think people are responding (or not responding) or with the fact that your hands are trembling or you are sweating.  These phsysiological responses become a source for anxiety on top of everthing else and soon you are fixated on your out of control body or unnerved by the fact that you are begining to stammer.

The trick is getting control of this physiological reponse.  The first step involves breathing.  Your body's response can be regulated by the way that you breath.  You can interupt a cycle of stage fright by taking control and getting your breathing back on track.  You can prevent a great deal of it by practicing deep centered diaphramatic breathing until it is natural for you. 

Put your hand on your stomach.  Breah in a deep breath.  When you do so make sure your belly pushes out against your hand.  You can imagine that your lungs are a balloon that you are filling with air.  Breath in slowly and deeply as you count to ten.  Then hold, and release.  Again, slowly as if you are letting the air out of the balloon.  When you breath this way you are using your diaphram correctly.  More oxygens gets to your brain, and your body slows down to respect the rythym you create.  If you are breathing this way before a speech, you will stay more calm.  If you get called in class and you start to get flustered you can regain control by starting to breath. 

Actors train in breathing and meditation in order to have acute control.  From there they learn to use the air in their lungs to project and modulate their voice.  This also helps with pacing for the many of us who start to speed up when we talk.  A voice pitched low and calm in pace is pleasing.  Try listening to some female newscasters or radio personalities to see what I mean.

This takes practice, but this type of training can trully change your public personality.  I used to teach a classes in "acting for the businessperson"- maybe you could find such a class at your local community college.  It's usually pretty cheap. 

Everyone gets nervous, some people just control it better than others.  Anyone who knows me would tell you that I am one of the most confident people they know.  But I still have moments of stage fright, times when inexplicably my knees are knocking.  But no one knows because I know how to get it under control.  And once you know that you don't feel afraid.     
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Mary on June 10, 2005, 12:26:02 PM
Wow, nice.

                                                                                     I have many years of training as an actor from way back before law school was even in the picture.  All of the advice so far has been good, but I have some thoughts from a different angle.

What happens when you speak in public is that adrenaline starts pumping and the brain goes on over-drive.  Instead of being able to concentrate on the message you would like to convey or how to be persuasive and connect with your audience you become fixated with how you think people are responding (or not responding) or with the fact that your hands are trembling or you are sweating.  These phsysiological responses become a source for anxiety on top of everthing else and soon you are fixated on your out of control body or unnerved by the fact that you are begining to stammer.

The trick is getting control of this physiological reponse.  The first step involves breathing.  Your body's response can be regulated by the way that you breath.  You can interupt a cycle of stage fright by taking control and getting your breathing back on track.  You can prevent a great deal of it by practicing deep centered diaphramatic breathing until it is natural for you. 

Put your hand on your stomach.  Breah in a deep breath.  When you do so make sure your belly pushes out against your hand.  You can imagine that your lungs are a balloon that you are filling with air.  Breath in slowly and deeply as you count to ten.  Then hold, and release.  Again, slowly as if you are letting the air out of the balloon.  When you breath this way you are using your diaphram correctly.  More oxygens gets to your brain, and your body slows down to respect the rythym you create.  If you are breathing this way before a speech, you will stay more calm.  If you get called in class and you start to get flustered you can regain control by starting to breath. 

Actors train in breathing and meditation in order to have acute control.  From there they learn to use the air in their lungs to project and modulate their voice.  This also helps with pacing for the many of us who start to speed up when we talk.  A voice pitched low and calm in pace is pleasing.  Try listening to some female newscasters or radio personalities to see what I mean.

This takes practice, but this type of training can trully change your public personality.  I used to teach a classes in "acting for the businessperson"- maybe you could find such a class at your local community college.  It's usually pretty cheap. 

Everyone gets nervous, some people just control it better than others.  Anyone who knows me would tell you that I am one of the most confident people they know.  But I still have moments of stage fright, times when inexplicably my knees are knocking.  But no one knows because I know how to get it under control.  And once you know that you don't feel afraid.     
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Kelly on June 17, 2005, 08:12:58 AM
Actually I started this thread.

I agree- we're not as bad as we think we sound to the next person.  I'm still nervous though. :-[

I am glad you started this thread, Mary.

I also hate speaking in front of crowds, and it only gets worse the older I get.  I was okay with it in undergrad, but now that I have been out of college for 4 yrs., it terrifies me. 

I was surprised when I first learned we would have to get up and argue in front of judges the first year of law school, and it scares me half to death, but I think it will be good in the end because I will have conquered a fear.  I think it is a vast MINORITY of people that are naturally comfortable with public speaking, so we are mostly all in the same boat.  The thing I try to remember is that I always think I sound dumber than everyone else who is listening does. 
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: SOCALLAW on July 03, 2005, 09:53:03 AM
If hope this helps...

I was a strategic communication major in undergrad. The reason I chose this major was to confront one of my greatest fears -Public Speaking. I knew there were going to be many speeches, some short-5min. and others pretty long-30min. Before I chose the major, I knew I wanted to go to law school. I knew that gpa was important and convinced myself that if I didnt become a good public speaker to get the grades, I wouldnt even get into law school. Most people called me crazy, because you are supposed to pick a major you enjoy. I realized that without PS, that I probably wasnt going to do well in law school, or at least be comfortable.

As it turned out, I became a much better speaker but I never got over being nervous and sometimes a little scared. I ended up graduating at the top of my class and making the grades to get into law school. The whole point I'm trying to convey to you, is that being afraid and being nervous is ok and it may even work to your advantage. I have faith that you will become that litigator. I'm not sure if you've started or are about to start, but always remember that law school is a psychological boot camp, and only the strong will survive. You must face your fears!

Sincerely
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Kelly on July 07, 2005, 05:54:43 PM
Thanks!
In a way, I'm looking forward to it but in another way- I'm very nervous and I have doubts.

If hope this helps...

I was a strategic communication major in undergrad. The reason I chose this major was to confront one of my greatest fears -Public Speaking. I knew there were going to be many speeches, some short-5min. and others pretty long-30min. Before I chose the major, I knew I wanted to go to law school. I knew that gpa was important and convinced myself that if I didnt become a good public speaker to get the grades, I wouldnt even get into law school. Most people called me crazy, because you are supposed to pick a major you enjoy. I realized that without PS, that I probably wasnt going to do well in law school, or at least be comfortable.

As it turned out, I became a much better speaker but I never got over being nervous and sometimes a little scared. I ended up graduating at the top of my class and making the grades to get into law school. The whole point I'm trying to convey to you, is that being afraid and being nervous is ok and it may even work to your advantage. I have faith that you will become that litigator. I'm not sure if you've started or are about to start, but always remember that law school is a psychological boot camp, and only the strong will survive. You must face your fears!

Sincerely
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Mary on July 07, 2005, 05:59:33 PM
Honestly, you need to and have to just get over your fear.  Otherwise, you're screwed and should not be a litigator.

Thanks!
In a way, I'm looking forward to it but in another way- I'm very nervous and I have doubts.

If hope this helps...

I was a strategic communication major in undergrad. The reason I chose this major was to confront one of my greatest fears -Public Speaking. I knew there were going to be many speeches, some short-5min. and others pretty long-30min. Before I chose the major, I knew I wanted to go to law school. I knew that gpa was important and convinced myself that if I didnt become a good public speaker to get the grades, I wouldnt even get into law school. Most people called me crazy, because you are supposed to pick a major you enjoy. I realized that without PS, that I probably wasnt going to do well in law school, or at least be comfortable.

As it turned out, I became a much better speaker but I never got over being nervous and sometimes a little scared. I ended up graduating at the top of my class and making the grades to get into law school. The whole point I'm trying to convey to you, is that being afraid and being nervous is ok and it may even work to your advantage. I have faith that you will become that litigator. I'm not sure if you've started or are about to start, but always remember that law school is a psychological boot camp, and only the strong will survive. You must face your fears!

Sincerely
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: labamba on July 17, 2005, 09:15:24 PM
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If professors begin to grill you respond to them using some nasty and/or sarcastic word -- they will shut the fuk up!

LOL ;)
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Ivy Man on August 02, 2005, 08:25:41 PM
No need to worry Kelly.  You'll have plenty of practice once you start law school.  Just raise your hand a lot ;) and participate in moot court.
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Kelly on August 04, 2005, 09:23:47 PM
Raise my hand a lot?  Lol.  Nice.

No need to worry Kelly.  You'll have plenty of practice once you start law school.  Just raise your hand a lot ;) and participate in moot court.
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: lawgirl on August 04, 2005, 10:01:07 PM
Raise my hand a lot?  Lol.  Nice.

No need to worry Kelly.  You'll have plenty of practice once you start law school.  Just raise your hand a lot ;) and participate in moot court.

Are you getting nervous?
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Mary on August 05, 2005, 09:33:41 PM
Raise your hand a lot??!!! Hahaha.  Hilarious.

Where do you go to law school Ivy Man?

No need to worry Kelly.  You'll have plenty of practice once you start law school.  Just raise your hand a lot ;) and participate in moot court.
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Ivy Man on August 06, 2005, 11:40:11 AM
University of Pennsylvania.



Raise your hand a lot??!!! Hahaha.  Hilarious.

Where do you go to law school Ivy Man?

No need to worry Kelly.  You'll have plenty of practice once you start law school.  Just raise your hand a lot ;) and participate in moot court.
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: sierraalpha on August 06, 2005, 12:44:28 PM
Hey Kelly,

You might have specific social anxiety disorder, where your body physiologically reacts to certain stimuli by drastically increasing your heart rate and shallowing your breath, kind of like a panic attack. Probably in circumstances where you have to speak up with a formal expectation to do so and in formal settings like classrooms.

I know I have had a moderate case of this since I can remember, but I didn't talk to a psychiatrist until only two weeks ago. And aside from prescribing drugs, which I didn't want, the key to relax this condition, is like other people said by desensitizing the person through progressive exposure to it. It's just like another phobia I guess...
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Kelly on August 06, 2005, 04:04:25 PM
I agree that I don't want to take any medication for it.  I don't believe in that.  I hope it's one of those things that I will totally get over (and get better at) once I start law school.

Hey Kelly,

You might have specific social anxiety disorder, where your body physiologically reacts to certain stimuli by drastically increasing your heart rate and shallowing your breath, kind of like a panic attack. Probably in circumstances where you have to speak up with a formal expectation to do so and in formal settings like classrooms.

I know I have had a moderate case of this since I can remember, but I didn't talk to a psychiatrist until only two weeks ago. And aside from prescribing drugs, which I didn't want, the key to relax this condition, is like other people said by desensitizing the person through progressive exposure to it. It's just like another phobia I guess...

Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Kelly on August 06, 2005, 04:05:20 PM
Cool, this is one of the schools I'm looking at.  Do you have any advice?

University of Pennsylvania.



Raise your hand a lot??!!! Hahaha.  Hilarious.

Where do you go to law school Ivy Man?

No need to worry Kelly.  You'll have plenty of practice once you start law school.  Just raise your hand a lot ;) and participate in moot court.
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Ivy Man on August 07, 2005, 08:43:38 AM
What do you want to know?

Cool, this is one of the schools I'm looking at.  Do you have any advice?

University of Pennsylvania.



Raise your hand a lot??!!! Hahaha.  Hilarious.

Where do you go to law school Ivy Man?

No need to worry Kelly.  You'll have plenty of practice once you start law school.  Just raise your hand a lot ;) and participate in moot court.
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Kelly on August 08, 2005, 09:32:16 AM
What was your LSAT? GPA?  What did you write your write your personal essay on?, etc.?

What do you want to know?

Cool, this is one of the schools I'm looking at.  Do you have any advice?

University of Pennsylvania.



Raise your hand a lot??!!! Hahaha.  Hilarious.

Where do you go to law school Ivy Man?

No need to worry Kelly.  You'll have plenty of practice once you start law school.  Just raise your hand a lot ;) and participate in moot court.
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Ivy Man on August 10, 2005, 07:30:04 PM
I'll PM you with answers to your questions. Also, email me if you have any other questions.


What was your LSAT? GPA?  What did you write your write your personal essay on?, etc.?

What do you want to know?

Cool, this is one of the schools I'm looking at.  Do you have any advice?

University of Pennsylvania.



Raise your hand a lot??!!! Hahaha.  Hilarious.

Where do you go to law school Ivy Man?

No need to worry Kelly.  You'll have plenty of practice once you start law school.  Just raise your hand a lot ;) and participate in moot court.
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: Kelly on August 10, 2005, 07:44:25 PM
Okay, thanks!

I'll PM you with answers to your questions. Also, email me if you have any other questions.


What was your LSAT? GPA?  What did you write your write your personal essay on?, etc.?

What do you want to know?

Cool, this is one of the schools I'm looking at.  Do you have any advice?

University of Pennsylvania.



Raise your hand a lot??!!! Hahaha.  Hilarious.

Where do you go to law school Ivy Man?

No need to worry Kelly.  You'll have plenty of practice once you start law school.  Just raise your hand a lot ;) and participate in moot court.
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: touro1979 on October 18, 2005, 07:11:33 AM
I hated public speaking before I came to law school and I would avoid classes in undergrad that had oral presentations.  Once I came to law school I became more and more used to it.  I still am not crazy about speaking to a bunch of people but it gets easier.  I interned at the Brooklyn DA's office and you are allowed to stand up on the record on misdemeanor cases.  I have done various pretrial court appearences and arraigned def. in my opinionit is much easier to speak to a judge then a jury.  The good news is that when you are litigator or crim defense attorney you only speak to the jury on two occaisons, the opening and closing.  The rest of the trial you are adressing the judge and individual Witnesses.  When I first came to law school I wanted to get a legal job where all I did was research and draft.  NOT ANYMORE.  Put me in a courtroom any day of the week.  I would much rather speak in court then spend all day drafting motions to dismiss.
Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: T. Durden on October 18, 2005, 09:09:55 AM
you'll quickly find out that there is a big difference between delivering a prepared statement in front of a crowd and getting grilled by a prof on novel material in front of 100 of your peers

Title: Re: What do you do if you're nervous about public speaking?
Post by: trouble on October 19, 2005, 07:18:08 PM
In a nutshell:

Don't worry, you'll get over it.   ;)