Law School Discussion

Law Students => Current Law Students => Topic started by: jdmba2007 on February 08, 2005, 01:59:03 PM

Title: 1L Poll: How was your first semester?
Post by: jdmba2007 on February 08, 2005, 01:59:03 PM
Is law school what you expected? Are you still happy you chose to attend? Do you like your classmates?

Personally I am loving law school and could not be happier
Title: Re: 1L Poll: How was your first semester?
Post by: klaw on February 09, 2005, 03:11:41 PM
Law school is generally pretty bad. The brutal curve at my school ensured a B- average and I had two professors who decided not to give out any As at all. I feel like I know the material very well, but I have *&^% to show for it. I was an award-winning writer before law school, so it's really humbling to be told that you can't write: at least LEGALLY. Half the time I don't get much out of lecture and I feel like I could just read the cases and be just as well off. Some of the profs are good, but others definitely just phone it in.

I moved to a new place to go to school and the only social events are happy hours where nobody can hear themselves think, nevermind talking with other people. Since most people are regional, they have their own groups of friends and while they'll talk to you and be friendly in class, they're loathe to reach out and include anyone not already in the circle. Oh, and books that we need for our legal writing class are regularly stolen from the library by some of the class assholes. Basically, you're surrounded by all those pricks on the debate team from high school. Even if some of those people were your friends, imagine being surrounded by the same 75 people who are basically just like that. EVERYDAY, for about 6-8 hours a day.
Title: Re: 1L Poll: How was your first semester?
Post by: Downey Slayer's Dick on February 09, 2005, 04:54:16 PM
It's been stressful and Downey Slayer has been giving me a beating.
Title: Re: 1L Poll: How was your first semester?
Post by: NORMLAW on February 09, 2005, 05:31:12 PM
What school is Klaw from? Sounds rough, like my school.

As for liking law school - I freaking hate it. I'm doing well; but, come one. They could go about teaching this stuff a lot better. Too busy caught up with maintaining the status quo and peddling socrates dead method. They should be focusing on the material, why its important, and how to use it in practice. Practical knowledge is where its at.

Lets get real here people. Rocket scientists don't learn by the socratic method, so why should we? This *&^% isn't exactly rocket science, if you feel where I'm coming from. Any boob with college level reading skills can succeed. Why belabor a method utilized in a time when the information age was only a far off dream? They should save their circular reasoning in support of continuing the use of this method for a group more easily persuaded - kindergartners.  ;)



Title: Re: 1L Poll: How was your first semester?
Post by: IHEARTLS on February 09, 2005, 06:15:24 PM
I like law school and the material that I am learning, I just dislike THIS law school.

People are rude.

People bump into me in the halls or restrooms on a daily basis and do NOT say, "Excuse me."  This is REALLY starting to bother me.

People give me dirty looks/roll their eyes.

People sigh if I take a moment to collect my thoughts when I am called on in class.

No one in my section really talks to me...maybe they feel like they don't know how since I am the only female from a certain ethnic group in a section of 79.  And since I spend the majority of my time with the same 79 folks, I have virtually no contact with the rest of my class.


I used to try to engage people in conversation, you know, trying to get to know my sectionmates, but the conversations were forced and I could tell that the people were not interested in talking to me so I now leave them alone.

The only people that I interract with are 2Ls and 3Ls and I only see them MAYBE once every week at a social gathering.

Nightlife in this town is pathetic...unless your down with the whole frat party/bar hopping scene.

The list goes on and on...I hate this place.







Title: Re: 1L Poll: How was your first semester?
Post by: klaw on February 09, 2005, 07:00:41 PM
Yeah, my experience is a lot like 1LWhit's. I tried talking to people, but it just became very forced and perfunctory. I mean, how many times can you female dog about the Crim reading? Or talk about the memo?

I hate the section bull. It feels like high school, and I was over that before I even graduated high school. There are the same groups of jocks, pretty blond girls, etc.

I also hate the fact that I seem to get called on more than others. In two classes in one week, the profs grilled me for half the class. I did fine, but there are people in the class that didn't get called on ALL LAST SEMESTER and there are people that get called on for one question only and then the prof leaves them alone. It's f-ing ridiculous.
Title: Re: 1L Poll: How was your first semester?
Post by: duma on February 09, 2005, 09:49:40 PM
I don't mind school. I just wish there wasn't a forced curve.
Title: Re: 1L Poll: How was your first semester?
Post by: jdmba2007 on February 09, 2005, 11:43:29 PM
1LWhit,

Sorry to hear about your experience thus far. People can be very ignorrant and rude sometimes. It sounds like your school is not very diverse. What part of the country is it in?

Title: Re: 1L Poll: How was your first semester?
Post by: IHEARTLS on February 10, 2005, 09:30:39 AM
1LWhit,

Sorry to hear about your experience thus far. People can be very ignorrant and rude sometimes. It sounds like your school is not very diverse. What part of the country is it in?



You're right, this school is not very diverse, but I've been in many non-diverse settings and this one has to be the worst.  I'm in the Midwest, in Illinois.
Title: Re: 1L Poll: How was your first semester?
Post by: jdmba2007 on February 10, 2005, 09:58:50 PM
Sorry to hear that. I am also in the midwest. the city I  am in is not that diverse but the school itself is
Title: law school blues
Post by: Burning Sands on February 18, 2005, 09:29:26 AM
On the social end, I couldn't be more happy.  My fellow classmates are like family.  We get together on a regular basis outside of school and generally look out for each other.

On the academic end, well that's a whole other story. Law School is a mixed bag.  The way that is set up, you can have 100% understanding of a class and get a B- yet skate by for a semester in another class, do minimal reading and get an A. I know this because I've done both.

So this begs the question, what are we really teaching our lawyers today?  If law school is any indication of the level of accountability that lawyers are rewarded for, then no wonder why there are so many lawyer jokes.

The grades do not reflect your understanding.  Learning the material and learning how to cater to your professor's exam are 2 different things.  We have professors at my school who DO NOT give A's.  You mean to tell me that a student in that professor's class understands Torts less than I do just because he was denied the opportunity to recieve an A?  That's bullsh!t.

I say, f*ck the curve, let a student who earns an A earn the A and the ones that don't don't.  And don't even get me started on LRW pidgeonholing!  I promise I can turn in my 6th grade book report on Mamals in for this next trial brief and I'll still get a B+.  When people tell you that they still don't know how to cite statutes properly and they consistently get A's on LRW papers, something is wrong.  We're pidgeonholed from that first paper. Whatever you happend to get on that first paper is what you will get for the rest of your LRW career.  And they don't want you to talk to other students about it because they know if you do you'll figure out that the entire thing is bullsh!t.

Jobs?

For all the rest of you who have jobs for the summer, congratuf*ckinlations.  For the rest of us left out in the cold, I feel your pain. 1L's are treated like second hand citizens when it comes to finding a job. Work for free?  Are you kidding me?  When you're paying 2L's $2500 a week!  Get real.  Because the difference between 1L and 2L is what....Evidence? Maybe a few more electives that don't mean squat? That's worth $2500 a week?  It appears to me that the 6 components tested on the Bar are what we are learning right now as 1L's.  The only substantive difference I can see b/w 1L's and 2L's are the journals, if you happen to get on one that is. Other than that, it makes no sense why 1L's are put at such a disadvantage on the job search when law firms make their decisions based off of your FIRST YEAR grades.


 >:(



Title: Re: 1L Poll: How was your first semester?
Post by: Aonghus on February 26, 2005, 02:22:55 AM
Wish I had gone to a better school, and wish I didnt have to work full time, but other than that, its pretty much what I expected.
Title: Re: 1L Poll: How was your first semester?
Post by: NearBurned on February 28, 2005, 04:18:00 PM
Law school sucks . . .

there are a few cool people, but most are obnoxious 21 year old gunners who have never earned a paycheck in their lives and all think they "should have gone" to a tier 2 school and will transfer out after this semester.

the professors are arrogant, petty, and uncompromising. They get joy out of making you look like an ass in front of the entire class, but try to slip things under the radar when they are proven wrong on a specific topic (my legal writing prof)

the exams are tough to prepare for because you have no idea what the bastards want.

the workload is so heavy, I barely have time to take a dump.

and generally, it hurts to even think about the fact that I have two and a half more months to go until summer vacation.

BUT, to borrow a line from John Cougar Mellencamp . . . it hurts sooooo good.