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Law Students => Current Law Students => Topic started by: carmine on March 01, 2004, 01:05:13 PM

Title: PLS
Post by: carmine on March 01, 2004, 01:05:13 PM
Hey--anybody into the PLS approach?  It seems to make sense, but if anyone has tried it, would like to hear your thoughts.  Thanks. 
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: jeffjoe on April 07, 2004, 11:05:53 AM
I've just started reading it and would like to hear about this, too.   :)
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: schoomp on April 07, 2004, 02:20:36 PM
I've gotten through half of two of the recommended books (Aspen's civil procedure and Aspen's Constitutional Law).  So far they are really good.  The book had come recommended to me by someone who graduated not that long ago - he wished he had really found it before he started law school and not during.

I figure even if the classes cover more/less than the books PLS2 recommends, at least I have somewhat a head start in that I know the terms and something about the subject.
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: ruskiegirl on April 07, 2004, 08:12:05 PM
What is PLS?
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: schoomp on April 08, 2004, 09:49:08 AM
Planet Law School by Atticus Falcon.  It is on it's second edition and a huge book that "supposedly" gives you a lot of information about law school.  It has a whole list of books to read to get you ready for the fall.  However, the author is really, really down on law school.  I've heard that if you take the negative attitude only somewhat seriously until you get to your respective school and see if it is true and follow a lot of his advice (especially about the prep work), that it is an extreme help...
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: jeffjoe on April 08, 2004, 09:54:07 AM
I read a post on the yahoo group for PLS.  Someone was considering delaying law school until next spring because they might not have enough time to finish all the reading suggested by PLS before the fall term.


I've read about 30 pages or so of the book.  There are many interesting points, but the author obviously has little respect for current law school instruction methods.  I'm going to finish reading the book and will consider the suggested readings, but I keep a big grain of salt next to me while reading PLS.   ;)
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: schoomp on April 08, 2004, 10:33:20 AM
There was someone - but then atticus wrote back and said that she should just do what she can and not wait till spring.  With admissions like they are right now, I couldn't imagine waiting till next time if I'd actually gotten in... but that might just be me :)
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: HpnotiQ on April 08, 2004, 01:43:57 PM
Wow, I recently stumbled on to this "diamond-mine" forum and been reading it for the past couple weeks.

I am suprised to read about many peers in the simliar situatsions as I am.

Anyway, a co-worker who decided not to go to law school handed me PLS to read and I am halfway thru Ch. 5 at the moment.

ALready, I am somewhat nervous about law school and wondering if I should really order the "PRIMER" books and start preparing.  I brought up my concerns to my friends who are practicing lawyers re: their law school educational experiencesa and such, they said that they personally did not have such of a hard or bitter experience. Instead of wokring hard before school starts, I should spend that time relazing so that when school does start I will be ready to go into study mode and not be burnt out already.

I have also read more than half of "Broken Contract" written by a HLS.
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: andywp8 on April 08, 2004, 02:36:39 PM
I have read the book, I ordered the delaney books online and am waiting for them, I will probably read the primers too, Im not sure if i will take LEEWS
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: jeffjoe on April 08, 2004, 04:07:47 PM
After you've read them all, could you write us a one page summary?   ;)



I have read the book, I ordered the delaney books online and am waiting for them, I will probably read the primers too, Im not sure if i will take LEEWS
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: schoomp on April 13, 2004, 12:50:42 AM
Halfway through Constitutional Law - thankfully it gets less dry.  The only thing so far I will disagree with Atticus about is the coming out with a new edition every few years.  I find it much more interesting reading about cases that I can remember (such as the Gore vs Bush case over the Florida recount), as most the cases in the 1800's I have no knowledge about, it is more like reading history and bad history at that as I really don't know much about what was going on in cases involving butchers in New Orleans (although it is good to know certain things the case decided, I don't know the history around the case I should say..)
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: jeffjoe on April 13, 2004, 12:16:48 PM
ALready, I am somewhat nervous about law school and wondering if I should really order the "PRIMER" books and start preparing.  I brought up my concerns to my friends who are practicing lawyers re: their law school educational experiencesa and such, they said that they personally did not have such of a hard or bitter experience. Instead of wokring hard before school starts, I should spend that time relazing so that when school does start I will be ready to go into study mode and not be burnt out already.

I'm only a little into PLS II and it is starting to make me a little nervous, too.  To be honest, the author's hostility toward law schools is a little alarming.  If I felt so strongly that law schools are in essence defrauding us, I would not go to law school. 

And I share your feeling having to do so much just to start a law education is a little overwhelming. 

I have a long time friend who graduated from Harvard LS in the seventies.  You know, the one that is described by One-L.  (my friend was one year behind Scott Turow).   His advise is similar to your friends.  Relax, rest and save the hard work for law school.

 :)
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: HpnotiQ on April 13, 2004, 01:44:27 PM
ALready, I am somewhat nervous about law school and wondering if I should really order the "PRIMER" books and start preparing.  I brought up my concerns to my friends who are practicing lawyers re: their law school educational experiencesa and such, they said that they personally did not have such of a hard or bitter experience. Instead of wokring hard before school starts, I should spend that time relazing so that when school does start I will be ready to go into study mode and not be burnt out already.

I'm only a little into PLS II and it is starting to make me a little nervous, too.  To be honest, the author's hostility toward law schools is a little alarming.  If I felt so strongly that law schools are in essence defrauding us, I would not go to law school. 

And I share your feeling having to do so much just to start a law education is a little overwhelming. 

I have a long time friend who graduated from Harvard LS in the seventies.  You know, the one that is described by One-L.  (my friend was one year behind Scott Turow).   His advise is similar to your friends.  Relax, rest and save the hard work for law school.

 :)

My only concern is that if I do relax, I am afraid that I will be doing the "I wished I did some pre-law school preparation" kinda thing when I am smack dab in the eye-of-the-hurricane 1L 1st semseter.  I mean, I guess it might not hurt to be like the boyscouts and "be prepared".

Currently I am employed at a one of the nations top law firm doing litigation support and have been here for about 9 months, in which I am fortunate to learn and experience the large firm atmosphere AND have the their name on my resume (even though they work me like a mule and pay not THAT great).  My rationale is that since law school starts around mid-to-end of august and orientation is about begining-to-mid August, I want to take all of July off and either all of June or most of June off to travel and do some pre-law studying.

I am sure it is certain, there won't be any free leisure time in the 3yrs (full time) that I am in law school.  Hence I shuold play and enjoy life now for a bit and do some studying like the "Primers".

What are my fellow PLS readers plans prior to law school?
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: jeffjoe on April 14, 2004, 06:58:05 AM
What are my fellow PLS readers plans prior to law school?

I'm planning to finish reading PLS, take a deep breath and then see what makes sense for me.

Title: Re: PLS
Post by: carmine on April 14, 2004, 01:41:00 PM
i have decided to read some to get a few concepts and terms into my head, but not overdo it.  i've heard too many criticisms of over-preparing prior to law school.  but, like most things, it all varies with the individual.  so, yes, i'm going to get into some primers...just not going to overdose on them. 8)
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: HpnotiQ on April 14, 2004, 06:24:06 PM
i have decided to read some to get a few concepts and terms into my head, but not overdo it.  i've heard too many criticisms of over-preparing prior to law school.  but, like most things, it all varies with the individual.  so, yes, i'm going to get into some primers...just not going to overdose on them. 8)

What criticisms of over-preparing prior to law school have you heard?  Perhaps it will help readers to guage whats considered overdoing etc. Thanks!
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: marista99 on April 15, 2004, 10:42:29 AM
I love the book, although I've started skipping over his tirades about pedagogy and such, they get old and paranoid-sounding after awhile. I am going to do as much of the prep as I can, considering I'm working full time.  I want to be at least as prepared as everyone else--and it wouldn't hurt to be ahead of the game either.
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: carmine on April 15, 2004, 02:46:50 PM
What criticisms of over-preparing prior to law school have you heard?  Perhaps it will help readers to guage whats considered overdoing etc. Thanks!

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Title: Re: PLS
Post by: jeffjoe on January 13, 2005, 09:31:45 AM
After a few months of law school, I am convinced PLS missed the mark, at least for my school. 
Title: Re: PLS
Post by: rapunzel on January 14, 2005, 01:43:30 PM
I have never heard of PLS.  I did no prep before law school started.  I did work through the LEEWS tapes in Nov. of my first year.  (Much before then you would be lost I think).  I had two A's, an A-, a B= and two C='s after midterm. 
LEEWS offered a useful perspective and I really used those ideas as a jumping off point for stratigizing about how to take exams.  After midterms I reformulated that strategy a bit and ended up on Law Review. 

Most important advice- take your writing class seriously.  Even if it's only half the credits of Torts it's the most important class and it will really prepare you for exams if you learn how to "lawyer".  And at least look at the practice exams on file.  Many professors just regurgitate the same test, so you might as well practice.  It gives you the ability to write faster on the exam.