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Deciding Where to Go => Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists => Topic started by: heyitcouldbeworse on March 28, 2005, 04:59:22 PM

Title: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: heyitcouldbeworse on March 28, 2005, 04:59:22 PM
Here's a great formula for getting on a bunch of wait lists, boys and girls.  Have a miserable 157, 165 split in your LSATS, a 3.7,  and a suspicous-looking gap in your education.
   So far I've been WLed by: BC, Wash and Lee, Wiilliam and Mary, Emory, WUSTL, and Wake Forest.  Any of these save for Wake I'd happily go to.  Should I pursue all of these?  Which should I pursue the hardest?  God, and I've no doubt there are more to come...Stastically speaking, am I likely to get one of them???
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me?
Post by: wongsb on March 28, 2005, 05:01:41 PM
I would like to hear the advice too.  I'm waitlisted at 4 Tier 1 schools, W&L, W&M, Emory and Fordham with a 168 and a 3.05 that reflects a downward grade trend (GPA is below 3.0 my last two years and I ended my spring term senior year with a 1.0). 
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: heyitcouldbeworse on March 28, 2005, 05:31:12 PM
Flower,
  My hope is that maybe these places are just waiting to see if apps like us don't bomb in senior yr?? Have you sent your senior fall grades yet (assuming you're still in school)?  Do you know how long LSAC will take to process new grades, or should one just send the grades directly to the school??

  BTW- does anyone else have 6 or more T1 wait lists?  Or have I earned the dubious distinction of champion in this regard?  Please, tell me I'm not the BIGGEST WL moron out there, please...though I have the sneaking suspicion that I am (& its well-deserved  :'(  )..
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me?
Post by: wongsb on March 28, 2005, 05:40:34 PM
Flower,
  My hope is that maybe these places are just waiting to see if apps like us don't bomb in senior yr?? Have you sent your senior fall grades yet (assuming you're still in school)?  Do you know how long LSAC will take to process new grades, or should one just send the grades directly to the school??

Good thing my schools made their decisions based on my full transcript (LOL)!  I am Class of 2004, so all my grades were ready for review by the time I had my applications in.. and, yes, I did bomb my senior spring and I can't tell if my schools waitlisted me because of that, or in spite of it, or, or, OR.... GAAAAA!  One thing for sure is that my grades went downward from fall term freshman year onwards, plateauing in the 2.9-3.2 band for most of my junior and senior years, before my fabulous 1.0 in my last trimester. 

And there isn't anything I can do about it. 

As for you, you should call your schools directly to see what their preferences are in regards to your latest grades. 
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me?
Post by: wongsb on March 28, 2005, 05:48:48 PM

  BTW- does anyone else have 6 or more T1 wait lists?  Or have I earned the dubious distinction of champion in this regard?  Please, tell me I'm not the BIGGEST WL moron out there, please...though I have the sneaking suspicion that I am (& its well-deserved  :'(  )..

I am still waiting on a few more schools.  I am hoping for another waitlist so I can hold a whole fistful  ;D.
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me?
Post by: burghblast on March 28, 2005, 06:03:02 PM
I got 4 WL's.
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me?
Post by: wongsb on March 28, 2005, 06:21:25 PM
I got 4 WL's.

You aren't living and dying on your waitlists, though ;)!  And I am jealous of your schools, even the ones that are waitlists. 
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me?
Post by: burghblast on March 28, 2005, 08:24:59 PM
I got 4 WL's.

You aren't living and dying on your waitlists, though ;)!  And I am jealous of your schools, even the ones that are waitlists. 

Point taken.  Cheer up though, I will be withdrawing my Emory app in the next week.  It could become your spot!
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: legallady on March 29, 2005, 07:50:13 AM
Ah yes, the plight of the waitlisted is one I can certainly relate to :) I don't have as many as you guys, but if I had applied to more than 10 schools, I bet you anything I would be waitlisted at ALL of them. I guess that's what happens to all of us split candidates. I had outstanding grades (a 3.85 after my freshman year, close to a 4.0 in my major), and a lot of solid soft factor junk (although nothing out-of-this-world extraordinary). But, alas, my LSAT is not too hot. Perfect waitlist material. 

Since all I have are wait lists (barring a miracle at UPenn or UVA, and considering the very real possibility that American, my safety, will reject me), here's my strategy: I'm going to wait until I have all of my options on the table, then I'm going to decide which school I would absolutely go to if they let me in and then tell them as much. I get the impression from all of the wait list letters my friends have received that the words "I WILL attend your school if you accept me off the wait list" bear a lot of weight. I also think that some of the schools just want a little more lovin' in the form of letters, extra recs, etc. So I'm hoping that combination of factors aimed at one school will equal an eventual acceptance.

Am I delusional here? What do you guys think about that?
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: lex19 on March 29, 2005, 08:02:54 AM
W&L specifically said to let them know if you will definitly go there on their WL FAQ list, and i am....

what do you guys think about visiting schools when you've been WL there??
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: legallady on March 29, 2005, 08:09:57 AM
Lex, I've been thinking about that, too. I think if a school (W&L in your case) is definitely your first choice, it can't hurt to go both so you can show them you're really interested in going and so you can see for yourself what the school is like. I've seen some other people on here post about meeting with someone in admissions while they're visiting, and I think that also sounds like a good idea if you can arrange it.
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: Goldilocks on April 08, 2007, 01:18:15 PM
Heyitcouldbewo, you are not the biggest WL moron.  I have 8 Tier 1 WLs out of 12 total apps.
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me?
Post by: n/a on April 08, 2007, 05:00:54 PM
You're in at Vandy... HEY IT COULD BE WORSE!
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me?
Post by: mathlete on April 08, 2007, 05:47:23 PM
Statistically speaking, you are not likely to get into any of them. Assuming each decision is an independent event (which I think is a much better approximation for wait lists than for admissions) and that your odds of any one is a generous 5%, your chances of getting in to at least one is ~26%
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me?
Post by: iscoredawaitlist on April 08, 2007, 06:35:55 PM
Statistically speaking, you are not likely to get into any of them. Assuming each decision is an independent event (which I think is a much better approximation for wait lists than for admissions) and that your odds of any one is a generous 5%, your chances of getting in to at least one is ~26%

i think you're underestimating how many are taken off of wait lists typically. Although i don't have any LSN data last year for the schools he listed, it seems that schools average around 7-10% acceptance of the waitlist rates... higher if you don't count the withdrawals. Obviously this isn't scientific or anything, but there may be something to be said for it. Still... his chances aren't great. Taking even the high number for 5 schools (since he doesn't want Wake) will give him 41% chance of getting in and the low number gives him about a 30% chance if i did it right.

http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,83905.0.html
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: legally law on April 10, 2007, 11:35:53 AM
Flower,
  My hope is that maybe these places are just waiting to see if apps like us don't bomb in senior yr?? Have you sent your senior fall grades yet (assuming you're still in school)?  Do you know how long LSAC will take to process new grades, or should one just send the grades directly to the school??

  BTW- does anyone else have 6 or more T1 wait lists?  Or have I earned the dubious distinction of champion in this regard?  Please, tell me I'm not the BIGGEST WL moron out there, please...though I have the sneaking suspicion that I am (& its well-deserved  :'(  )..

I've got six :(  But, it really could be worse:)
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: lawschoolboundlady on April 21, 2007, 01:44:29 PM
I've got 6 too.. right there with you! Is this year typical? I feel like I know so many on multiple waitlists. Maybe more people applied and more people applied to more schools?
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: ArthurKing on April 22, 2007, 12:00:18 PM
6 waitlists, all in the T14.  ??? :'( ??? (Although I'm stretching it a bit, since I've been accepted from one of the waitlists)

The whole idea of the waitlist drives me nuts. There has to be a better way to do this ... my biggest concern is that people with our number of waitlists (who are actually committed/interested toward one or more of the schools where they are waitlisted) are going to have a never-ending cycle. What's it going to be like to be on pins and needles from now until potentially August!?!
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me?
Post by: n/a on April 22, 2007, 07:03:47 PM
What's it going to be like to be on pins and needles from now until potentially August!?!

Not awesome.
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: Pugnacious on April 22, 2007, 08:00:36 PM
I am also on 6 waitlists from top 15 schools. It does seem oddly typical this cycle. Let's hope we get off some of them!
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: legally law on April 23, 2007, 09:41:17 AM
6 waitlists, all in the T14.  ??? :'( ??? (Although I'm stretching it a bit, since I've been accepted from one of the waitlists)
The whole idea of the waitlist drives me nuts. There has to be a better way to do this ... my biggest concern is that people with our number of waitlists (who are actually committed/interested toward one or more of the schools where they are waitlisted) are going to have a never-ending cycle. What's it going to be like to be on pins and needles from now until potentially August!?!

When did you get off the waitlist???!!!  That's awesome!   ;D
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: ArthurKing on April 23, 2007, 12:16:37 PM
6 waitlists, all in the T14.  ??? :'( ??? (Although I'm stretching it a bit, since I've been accepted from one of the waitlists)
The whole idea of the waitlist drives me nuts. There has to be a better way to do this ... my biggest concern is that people with our number of waitlists (who are actually committed/interested toward one or more of the schools where they are waitlisted) are going to have a never-ending cycle. What's it going to be like to be on pins and needles from now until potentially August!?!

When did you get off the waitlist???!!!  That's awesome!   ;D

Don't get too excited  :D It was from Georgetown. I was waitlisted on 3/17 and I got notice that I had been officially accepted on 4/5. It was all very odd / weird / random.

Gtown is my only waitlist where I'm fairly sure it was true yield protection rather than an issue of the classes being filled up already. I say this because I was brought in from the waitlist before the first deposit deadline! (I sent them ... I guess you could call it the e-mail equivalent of a LOCI, although it was somewhat more informal than a standard one. Just along the lines of 'hello. I might actually go to Georgetown. Please admit me. I haven't made my mind up about schools yet!' Guess it worked.

For the other five (and for all of us on waitlists in general) I think it is going to be a much much longer process, unfortunately.

As someone above said it (much better than I), it's going to be "not awesome"
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: murraj on April 23, 2007, 10:58:07 PM
I'm waitlisted at Washington and Lee, George Washington Univ., George Mason Univ., American Univ,, Iowa, Cardozo (withdrew), and San Diego (withdrew)
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: kulrythm on April 24, 2007, 02:47:12 PM
A friend of my brother was all set to go to American... she had her apartment and was still moving her stuff in the day before classes start.  She got a call from GW asking if she was still interested, and she started at GW the next day.  So, apparently waitlist anxiety could last all the way until the day before classes start.
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: legally law on April 24, 2007, 02:48:36 PM
Great.......   At least she was in the same city - that would have really sucked otherwise.
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: lawschoolboundlady on April 24, 2007, 04:52:26 PM
yeh what do you do if you're expected to move across the country the day before?
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: kulrythm on April 24, 2007, 04:58:08 PM
Yeah... it was convenient that it was the city she was already in, and I'm sure that's the only reason she took it.  Better ranked school, similar cost, in the same city.  My guess is they went down the list of waitlisters and called them one by one to fill a couple of seats and since it was the day before classes started, most probably said no.  She just happened to be able to accept it since she was already in the city.
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me?
Post by: ArthurKing on April 24, 2007, 05:50:17 PM
Heyitcouldbewo, you are not the biggest WL moron.  I have 8 Tier 1 WLs out of 12 total apps.

you realize this thread is from 2005, right?

And yet it's all still so eerily salient ... some things apparently never change  :'(

(cue twilight zone music)
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: Jen2bJD on April 30, 2007, 05:36:49 PM
tag.
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: ArthurKing on May 08, 2007, 07:15:56 AM
Just to semi-resurrect this thread

My original 6 waitlists are down to 4.  :) Chicago moved on its first waitlists late last week AND they seem to be throwing relatively substantial amounts of merit money to their first round of WL--> accept offers (e.g. 36k and 50k are the two that I've seen, cited by several people)

Michigan similarly moved on some waitlists late last week and yesterday, although I haven't seen many people popping up on LSD to post news, so perhaps that swath largely avoided the LSD/LSN crowd. Additionally, in the last 48 hours, Harvard has been sending out a handful of the infamous 'phone call e-mails' to some people on the waitlist - the consensus being that, barring a verbal bashing of TS over the phone, this represents a 'you're in' signal.

So, waitlists are moving. Not trying to replicate the admirable albeit semi-hijacked waitlist movement thread on the main board (OMG! Just got off the waitlist) But any fellow 'multiple multiple waitlisters' receiving good news? Share!

EDIT: It seems that what is true for the T14s is true for a lot of the T1/T2 schools - there is some good early waitlist movement. I've heard speculation that it's due to: a. the new ABA policy re: LSAT scores, b. a decrease in the overall applicant pool, and, c. a simultaneous increase in the average number of apps sent out per applicant. Much more volatility this year. Of course, this is all speculation ;D
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: legally law on May 09, 2007, 10:23:39 AM
Does anyone know whether or not Duke, Cornell, or GW have been accepting people from the wait list?
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: ArthurKing on May 09, 2007, 03:45:03 PM
Penn waitlists have begun moving - just got a call this afternoon. Now down to 3 (fearing I'm going to lose my membership card in the 'many waitlist' group)

Good luck! Please share any info / good news!
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me??
Post by: thesingingbass on May 25, 2007, 08:11:09 AM
4 WLs here. Movement on UVa's WL a week ago (unfortunately not for me). GW- don't expect anything to happen until mid-to-late June (letter from dean Richard). Hastings- expected movement in the "first half of June" (email from dir. of admissions Canada). Haven't heard anything about Vanderbilt's WL.

HTH
Title: Re: 6 WLs at tier 1 schools ..christ...do you think one will eventually take me?
Post by: ě on May 25, 2007, 08:13:42 AM
I don't know much about these schools mentioned here, but I do know that for Fall 2006 admissions Rutgers Newark admitted a measly 11 people from wait list, and I would assume that for higher ranking scores the number would most likely not be higher, since there tends to be a trickle-down effect down the ranks.