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Title: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 19, 2005, 07:29:35 PM
I finally pulled the trigger tonight and bought a laptop:

Model: Dell Inspiron 6000
Display: 15.4" UltraSharp WUXGA
Processor: Intel Pentium M 750 (1.86GHz, 533MHz FSB)
Memory: 512MB DDR2 SDRAM (x1 DIMM)
Video card: ATI Mobility Radeon X300 64MB
Hard drive: 40GB
CD/DVD: 24X CDRW/DVD combo
Integrated Wireless: Intel PRO Wireless 2200
OS: Windows XP Professional
Battery: 9-Cell Lithium ion (Extended life)
Printer: Free Dell color inkjet included
Warranty: 2 year on-site

$1,550 including tax and shipping (Plus $100 mail in rebate for selecting the 2 year on-site warranty)

I think the Inspiron 6000 offers the best blend of performance, screen size, and portability.  When closed the dimensions are 13.6" x 10.1" and the unit weighs a little over 6.5 pounds.  I really like the ATI Radeon graphics card... much nicer than the integrated Intel graphics you get with most laptops.  And since Dell's current promotion is 30% off everything, the memory was priced reasonably enough to justify upgrading to 512MB.  I may upgrade to 1GB later on.  I guess the free printer is nice too, but I'll withhold judgement until I see it for myself.  I imagine it isn't worth more than $50 so I'm not sure how much use I'll get out of it. 

In one night I managed to double the cost of my law school admissions process so far. 
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: MC Paul Barman on March 19, 2005, 07:31:29 PM
Dell is a TTT company. Get your money back and buy a different brand while you still can.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 19, 2005, 07:32:36 PM
Dell is a TTT company. Get your money back and buy a different brand while you still can.


Those Nasdaq commercials with Michael Dell paint a different picture.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: MC Paul Barman on March 19, 2005, 07:34:46 PM
I'll rephrase then:

Dell makes a TTT laptop. Return it now and save yourself many future headaches....
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 19, 2005, 07:37:55 PM
I'll rephrase then:

Dell makes a TTT laptop. Return it now and save yourself many future headaches....


Did you have a bad experience with Dell? My entire company has been using them for awhile and everyone loves them.  Most of them have the Latitude series though.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: MC Paul Barman on March 19, 2005, 07:40:26 PM
I had an Inspiron 600m that burnt its motherboard 9 DAYS after the ONE YEAR warranty expired....it would have been like a $700 repair....ive heard other such horror stories from dell owners. At least you have a 2 yr warranty.

edit: if you must have a dell, I would at least get the longest warranty they offer.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 19, 2005, 07:47:20 PM
I had an Inspiron 600m that burnt its motherboard 9 DAYS after the ONE YEAR warranty expired....it would have been like a $700 repair....ive heard other such horror stories from dell owners. At least you have a 2 yr warranty.

edit: if you must have a dell, I would at least get the longest warranty they offer.


Sorry to hear that.  What bad luck.  Of course you realize every manufacturer is prone to occasional defects.  I don't think Dell is any more or less prone to faulty hardware than Gateway, Sony, or Toshiba.  I'm a computer engineer and in the past 10 years I don't know if I have ever seen a motherboard spontaneously fry itself.  Computer parts aren't like car parts - they don't get "worn out" over time.  So when something like that happens it's usually due to some damage inflicted by the user, or a freak manufacturing defect.  But I do have increased peace of mind with the 2 year warranty.  If it were a desktop I wouldn't even have considered paying extra money for a warranty, but laptops are much more prone to those rare defects and when something does go wrong you often have to replace the entire unit. 
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: MC Paul Barman on March 19, 2005, 07:54:03 PM
If you check out consumer reports or pc world, you might be suprised by what you find out about dell.  Many ppl had the same problem w/the 600m. I think its bad that the company wouldn't stand by the product (i know if was out of warranty, but by less than 2 weeks...) Anyways, even though you're from pittsburgh i hope you have no probs w/your system. :)
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 19, 2005, 08:03:25 PM
If you check out consumer reports or pc world, you might be suprised by what you find out about dell.  Many ppl had the same problem w/the 600m. I think its bad that the company wouldn't stand by the product (i know if was out of warranty, but by less than 2 weeks...) Anyways, even though you're from pittsburgh i hope you have no probs w/your system. :)

Hahahaha.  Thanks for the warm wishes despite my hometown.  By the way, PC Magazine has awarded a couple Editor's Choice awards to the Dell XPS notebook line, but those are massive 17" desktop replacements.  The 6000 line is relatively new, I haven't found any reviews yet.  But here's what PC Magazine had to say about the Inspiron 8600:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1722283,00.asp

Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: KittenWithStix on March 19, 2005, 09:00:58 PM
I bought Inspiron laptops for myself and my team at work and we've had absolutely no problems.  Prior to that we had Latitudes with no issues.  Enjoy your new PC!
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 19, 2005, 09:12:20 PM
For what its worth I can think of several friends at school (5 off hand) that have had terrible reoccurring problems with their Dell laptops. My parents have dell desktops at home and they have had no problems but there seems to be an ongoing failure by Dell to integrate quality into its value priced laptops. I have been giving the 700M some consideration but I am too afraid for teh amount I will be carrying it during LS. Just as a side note, what made you buy a notebook of that weight as opposed to like a mid 4 pounder with as much portability as it will require? I avoid carrying my current 6.5 pounder whenever possible.

If you think 6 and a half pounds is too much to "lug around" then step 1 is a gym membership :)

But seriously, I will be using my laptop as a desktop replacement and 15.4" is the smallest screen I was willing to go with.  I'm currently used to an 18" viewable desktop monitor, so the laptop will take a little getting used to for me.  At first I was leaning towards the Inspiron 9300 which has a 17" screen and weighs close to 9 pounds.  After getting so much feedback from LSDers about the importance of portability for law school, I ruled out a 17" screen and I was pretty much set on the Inspiron 6000.  6.5 pounds really isn't much to carry.  The Inspiron 6000 isn't an "ultra portable" by any means, but it is a good compromise that provides a decent screen size.  When closed the unit measures 10.1" x 13.6"  so it's slightly larger than my Northwestern admissions binder.

Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: pointdexterish on March 19, 2005, 11:03:55 PM
Sweet laptop you have there - make sure to install antivirus, antispyware software and maybe a personal firewall (Anti-Vir, Spybot Search and Destroy are two good options for AV/AS) and the laptop will be purring for years :D
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: Highway on March 20, 2005, 05:33:29 AM
Check out www.my3cents.com and read about all of the problems people have with Dell laptops and their service contracts. I have a Dell desktop, and it seems to work fine, but I would never get a laptop from them based on the number of people who have problems with them.

That said, you are probably right that all laptop companies have issues. It's pretty much luck of the draw, I suppose. At least you can probably fix anything that may go wrong since you are a computer engineer.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: Coyote on March 20, 2005, 05:46:04 AM
You're always better off having a computer built.  The larger companies will skimp on parts like motherboards, etc....yeah, you'll have the latest Pentium, but you won't see any stickers on the computer for anything else.  Use someone local so it's easier to get in touch of you have issues.  Word of mouth can generally lead you to someone reputable.

A company in Athens that does good work is Connected Technologies, http://www.cntdtech.com/ - honestly, I don't know if they're even still building any.  They built my home PC in early 2000 and it's never given me any problems, to this day.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: ccorsi on March 20, 2005, 05:53:59 AM
Well since your ship has sailed on this purchase it really doesn't help to throw fuel on the fire, but they don't call me Sparky for nothing :)

I am an IT Manager (including purchasing) at a fortune 100 company and have been in the department for 10 years.

Dell makes a very nice desktop - reliable, affordable, and highly upscalable.

They, however, make complete *&^% servers and laptops.  We purchased Dell laptops for a 3 year period which ended in 2004 and everyone, IT and non-IT, alike was so happy to get rid of them.  They were extremely unreliable - LCDs fading, hard drives failing, and generally more nuisance causing (CD roms, DVDs, batteries, etc.)

If you want a good reliable laptop - buy an HP/Compaq.  IBM is also nice, but since they will be making them all in China soon - I'd hold off on them.  I have heard mixed reviews on Sony Vaios too, but even those blow Dell out of the water.

C2   
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 20, 2005, 07:31:42 AM
Wow, I'm amazed so many LSDers have so much bad stuff to say about Dell.  If my own company hadn't used Dell laptops so successfully for so long, I would probably be thinking about cancelling my order about now :)

My question for all of the Dell haters who claim such universal horrible experiences with Dell laptops is:  How have they won so many PC Magazine Editors Choice awards?  Two different Inspiron XPS models were picked as Editor's Choices, and almost all of the models in the Inspiron line rated 3.5 to 4 stars out of 5. 
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 20, 2005, 07:38:30 AM
At least you can probably fix anything that may go wrong since you are a computer engineer.

Not so with laptops.  Everything is pretty much integrated on the motherboard so if one thing dies, the entire unit typically has to be replaced.  This is why I paid $100 for a 2 year on-site warranty.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: strouse on March 20, 2005, 07:55:37 AM
Burgh:

Consider this:  Dell has the larget market share, therefore logic tells us it will also have a higher quantity of defects and problems in sheer numbers alone.  Its only natural, the more units you make, the more people will have an opportunity to experience problems with your product.  This is just a product of being the largest co. in the business.  Dell makes a good product.

Phanatic.

P.S.- I rock a dell laptop and have had no issues.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 20, 2005, 08:31:21 AM
Dell has the larget market share, therefore logic tells us it will also have a higher quantity of defects and problems in sheer numbers alone.

Yeah I had just come to this same conclusion a few minutes ago while trying to reconcile the huge numbers of Dell complaints on the 3cents.com Web site that someone posted earlier in this thread. 

I also just talked to a friend of mine who does tech support for a large company and is responsible for 600 Dell laptops.  He said they aren't more prone to problems than any other manufacturer, but that all laptop hard drives somewhat routinely fail due to heat conditions after 2-3 years. 

Rest assure that I will keep LSD posted throughout my Dell ownership experience :)
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: giffy on March 20, 2005, 09:35:46 AM
I have had a bit of experence with Dell and it has been positive. Much more so then Compaq, HP, or any other. The only thing that has been better are the PC's I put together myself and that mostly had to do with me knowing all that was init and it not having any useless crap installed. My mom has been using her Dell for about 3 years now and we used Dells were I worked. I also have acoupel of family members with dell laptops and thye love them. All had almost no problems and the ones tey did were solved. Now Dell used to be a lot better before they reduced the free warrenty. you used to get a lot more without paying. There is also the decline in their phone support which has gone from excellent to rather poor. However this seems to a problem with the industry as a whole.

that being said their products are still top notch. Aside from going to a speciality manufacture, which is difficult if you want a compact laptop, you can't do much better.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: onepoint on March 20, 2005, 12:22:36 PM
i'm stunned at how many people are bashing dell.  my best friend, both brothers, and ex gf all have and love them.  3 of those 4 have had them for over 2 years.

if they're so horrible, what is it that they're doing right?  i vote grab an extended warranty, and get to work.

burghblast- looks like a great machine.  you're going to love that ultrasharp wuxga lcd.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: tstein on March 20, 2005, 12:26:13 PM
Don't listen to everyone else...I love my Dell. No problems. I would get the warranty- any thing can happen.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: freshk on March 20, 2005, 05:20:23 PM
What a coincidence!  I read this thread expecting a lament about the cost of applying to law school, and instead found out that you bought almost the exact same computer as I did today.  The main difference is that I got a 3 year warranty instead of a 2 year. I saw that 30% offer and just knew that I had to bite.

I have had four different laptops for work in the past 7 years.  One Toshiba, 2 Dells, and I currently have a IBM Thinkpad T41.  I like the T41, but I have had to send it back to our IT department twice to get fixed in the past year.  I never had any trouble with either of my Dells over the nearly 5 years I used them, so I decided to go with a Dell.

I was considering an ultra-portable, but I'm an electronics geek, so I couldn't resist a more performance oriented laptop.  Besides, I do not mine carrying around a couple extra pounds of weight.

Good luck with your new computer.  I hope you enjoy it.  I know I will enjoy mine!
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 20, 2005, 05:29:39 PM
What a coincidence!  I read this thread expecting a lament about the cost of applying to law school, and instead found out that you bought almost the exact same computer as I did today.  The main difference is that I got a 3 year warranty instead of a 2 year. I saw that 30% offer and just knew that I had to bite.

I have had four different laptops for work in the past 7 years.  One Toshiba, 2 Dells, and I currently have a IBM Thinkpad T41.  I like the T41, but I have had to send it back to our IT department twice to get fixed in the past year.  I never had any trouble with either of my Dells over the nearly 5 years I used them, so I decided to go with a Dell.

I was considering an ultra-portable, but I'm an electronics geek, so I couldn't resist a more performance oriented laptop.  Besides, I do not mine carrying around a couple extra pounds of weight.

Good luck with your new computer.  I hope you enjoy it.  I know I will enjoy mine!

Sweet.  Did you upgrade to the 128MB graphics card?  That's my only regret.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: Monkey on March 20, 2005, 06:47:48 PM
Burgh - did you buy yours online, or over the phone?  Your post seemed to sum up pretty much everything I wanted in my laptop too, so I went to the Dell site and put in basically all the same stuff on the 6000.  But, I wasn't offered the free printer, and the Pentium 750 wasn't even an option (I think you could choose from the 720 or 730 - s/t like that - but no 750.)  Neither of which are deal-breakers, I was just curious if the way you bought yours might've been a factor...



I finally pulled the trigger tonight and bought a laptop:

Model: Dell Inspiron 6000
Display: 15.4" UltraSharp WUXGA
Processor: Intel Pentium M 750 (1.86GHz, 533MHz FSB)
Memory: 512MB DDR2 SDRAM (x1 DIMM)
Video card: ATI Mobility Radeon X300 64MB
Hard drive: 40GB
CD/DVD: 24X CDRW/DVD combo
Integrated Wireless: Intel PRO Wireless 2200
OS: Windows XP Professional
Battery: 9-Cell Lithium ion (Extended life)
Printer: Free Dell color inkjet included
Warranty: 2 year on-site

$1,550 including tax and shipping (Plus $100 mail in rebate for selecting the 2 year on-site warranty)

I think the Inspiron 6000 offers the best blend of performance, screen size, and portability.  When closed the dimensions are 13.6" x 10.1" and the unit weighs a little over 6.5 pounds.  I really like the ATI Radeon graphics card... much nicer than the integrated Intel graphics you get with most laptops.  And since Dell's current promotion is 30% off everything, the memory was priced reasonably enough to justify upgrading to 512MB.  I may upgrade to 1GB later on.  I guess the free printer is nice too, but I'll withhold judgement until I see it for myself.  I imagine it isn't worth more than $50 so I'm not sure how much use I'll get out of it. 

In one night I managed to double the cost of my law school admissions process so far. 
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: maka nani on March 20, 2005, 06:56:02 PM
out of the 170 recruiters at my job who have a mix of Inspirions and Latitudes...I would say about 50 have had major problems and many had to have the hard drive replaced.  Now, those were mostly on the latitudes, inspirions seem MUCH better...at least from we have seen.  We just make sure to repeat, BACK UP!  These idiots never back up. 
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: ScurvyWench on March 20, 2005, 11:24:20 PM
Burgh,

Does the school you've decided on recommend a Dell laptop? If so, who cares what everyone else says, the school will service, fix, and provide ridiculous warantees for your laptop. I like that I could take my future laptops swimming and still get it replaced. :)

-SW
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: freshk on March 21, 2005, 06:16:02 AM
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Sweet.  Did you upgrade to the 128MB graphics card?  That's my only regret.
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     Ya, I upgraded to the 128MB graphics card, becasue I knew if I didn't I would regret it later.  I didn't mention it in my previous post becuase I didn't want to appear to be a "one-upper," but since you asked... ;)
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 21, 2005, 07:04:06 AM
Burgh,

Does the school you've decided on recommend a Dell laptop? If so, who cares what everyone else says, the school will service, fix, and provide ridiculous warantees for your laptop. I like that I could take my future laptops swimming and still get it replaced. :)

-SW

Northwestern does recommend buying a Dell but I didn't see anything about them providing extended warranty repair.  At best I would expect the school may offer the services of their IT department to fix software issues.  I can't imagine any school offering to replace damaged hardware for free.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: blake840 on March 21, 2005, 07:17:52 AM


I got the Inspiron 8200 when I graduated from high school in 2002.  I took the thing to college with me and it was working fine.  Three months ago, on a normal day, I work up and was working on my computer.  I went to take a shower, came back, and the thing was off.  I wasn't surprised because I have burnt out my battery by keeping it plugged in all the time, so I figured that the plug had come out of the wall.  This would usually turn the comp off due to the battery situation.  I tried to plug it back in and the damn thing would NOT turn on.  I immediately called dell and they had me take most of the comp apart over the phone with them.  That didn't work.  So I called my uncle who works for dell and he had me send it to him to look at.
Point of the story is that the motherboard was fried.  Absolutely NOTHING happened to my comp in between the shower and when I got back.  The damn thing just turned off.  I was so pissed...basically because I'm broke and can't buy a new one.  Right now I'm borrowing my grandmother's laptop until I can ask for a new one for graduation in May.   :'(

All my friends at school who have desktops love them and have never had problems.

I think anything can happen with computers, just make sure you spend the extra cash to get the best warranty.

I will not be buying a dell for LS.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: Oneof2 on March 21, 2005, 07:45:44 AM
I bought an Inspiron 8500 a couple years back and have never had a problem with it.  Im considering upgrading to a new Dell before LS but mine works so well that it would be tough to pay all the extra money for a newer one.  Any suggestions?

Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 21, 2005, 08:05:26 AM
I bought an Inspiron 8500 a couple years back and have never had a problem with it.  Im considering upgrading to a new Dell before LS but mine works so well that it would be tough to pay all the extra money for a newer one.  Any suggestions?

Laptops are tough to upgrade.  Usually the only thing you can do is increase the memory.  If you want a faster processor, newer graphics card, or better display then you'll have to buy a whole new laptop.  If you really think you need something better, now may be a good time to buy.  The Dell Small Business department is offering 30% off all Inspiron laptops, which is the deal I got.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: yoshibengoshi on March 21, 2005, 02:45:44 PM
Burghblast, I think you're going to be happy with your Dell. I bought the smallest Dell Latitude LT almost 10 years ago. It had the original Pentium chip, so it's now far too slow for today's league, but it never had any technical problems whatsoever. Durable and traveled exteremely well.

Now, I'm trying to decide between your same Dell Inspiron versus the Alienware Sentia notebook. The Sentia specs are:
Operating System: Windows XP Professional w/SP2
Processor: Pentium M 725 1.6GHz 2MB L2 Cache 400MHZ FSB
Motherboard: Intel 855GME+ICH4M Chipset PC-2700 @ 333MHz
Wireless Network: Integrated Intel PRO/Wireless 2915
RAM: 1GB DDR PC-2700 at 333MHz - 1x1024 SO-DIMM
Hard Drive: Hitachi 60GB 7200 RPM ATA100 with 8MB Cache
Monitors: 12.1" Wide-XGA 1280x800 LCD Display
Smart Bay One: 8X Dual Layer DVD+/-RW / 24X CD-RW Combo
Ethernet NIC: Integrated 10/100Mb Ethernet NIC
Modem: 56K Modem with V.90 Technology
Dimensions (H x W x D): 1" x 11.5" x 9"
Weight: 3.85lbs

If I go with this one, it's $1700. I could scale the RAM down from 1GB to  512MB and save $140, but I'm a memory freak.

I also looked at VoodooPC (same specs costs almost $3000) and Mac Powerbook (which I love, but... it's not PC. Plus costs slightly more.)

Anyone have any opinions, narrowed down between Dell Inspiron and Alien Sentia?

Thanks!

Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 21, 2005, 03:23:01 PM
Burghblast, I think you're going to be happy with your Dell. I bought the smallest Dell Latitude LT almost 10 years ago. It had the original Pentium chip, so it's now far too slow for today's league, but it never had any technical problems whatsoever. Durable and traveled exteremely well.

Now, I'm trying to decide between your same Dell Inspiron versus the Alienware Sentia notebook. The Sentia specs are:
Operating System: Windows XP Professional w/SP2
Processor: Pentium M 725 1.6GHz 2MB L2 Cache 400MHZ FSB
Motherboard: Intel 855GME+ICH4M Chipset PC-2700 @ 333MHz
Wireless Network: Integrated Intel PRO/Wireless 2915
RAM: 1GB DDR PC-2700 at 333MHz - 1x1024 SO-DIMM
Hard Drive: Hitachi 60GB 7200 RPM ATA100 with 8MB Cache
Monitors: 12.1" Wide-XGA 1280x800 LCD Display
Smart Bay One: 8X Dual Layer DVD+/-RW / 24X CD-RW Combo
Ethernet NIC: Integrated 10/100Mb Ethernet NIC
Modem: 56K Modem with V.90 Technology
Dimensions (H x W x D): 1" x 11.5" x 9"
Weight: 3.85lbs

If I go with this one, it's $1700. I could scale the RAM down from 1GB to  512MB and save $140, but I'm a memory freak.

I also looked at VoodooPC (same specs costs almost $3000) and Mac Powerbook (which I love, but... it's not PC. Plus costs slightly more.)

Anyone have any opinions, narrowed down between Dell Inspiron and Alien Sentia?

Thanks!

That's quite a choice.  I'll assume your $1700 includes tax and shipping, making it directly comparable to the $1550 I paid for my Inspiron 6000.  Factoring in my $100 mail-in rebate, you'll be payinig $250 more for the Sentia and getting the following advantages: 512MB memory, DVD RW, 20GB more hard drive space and 7200RPM performance, and significantly increased portability.  I'd certainly pay $250 for all of that! 

However, you're also giving up the following with the Sentia: MUCH smaller screen, slower processor with slower FSB, 2 year on-site warranty covering accidental damage, a free printer, and the big kicker in my mind - a dedicated video card.  Since your specs make no mention of a video card, I assume the Sentia uses Intel's integrated Xtreme graphics controller or something similar, which eats into your system memory for graphics.  Now factoring in all that, the Sentia doesn't look like a very good deal at all. 

The only reason I can imagine choosing the Sentia over the Inspiron is if ultraportability is your main criterion.  But in that case I think you would be much better off ordering another Dell model (Either in the Inspiron or Latitude line) because they offer 12.1" laptops for MUCH less than $1700.  I think you could get everything the Sentia offers plus a better processor for a couple hundred bucks less from Dell, and they might even through in the free printer too.

Go to Dell's Web site and try configuring one of their 12.1" laptop models so it compares to your Sentia.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 21, 2005, 03:29:16 PM
FYI, check out the Dell Inspiron 700m.  It's comparable to the Sentia:

12.1" display
Pentium M 725 processor
Windows XP Pro
512MB memory
60GB hard drive
CD/DVD-RW
Free printer

$1300, not including tax or shipping.  I wouldn't pay Dell to upgrade to 1GB of memory.  You can do it yourself afterwards for about $100. 
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: manserunt on March 21, 2005, 03:34:39 PM
Burgh,

I have had two Dells - a laptop and a desktop.  The laptop didn't give me much trouble, but it was stolen after I had it a year so I can't really say how well it ages.  The desktop has been complete and utter crap.  I used to be a Dell cheerleader, telling anyone who'll listen to buy a Dell.  But I don't think I'd do that anymore.  I really do think they're cheaply made, and the tech support is pretty horrific - be prepared to be on hold for hours and, from what I've heard recently, it's unlikely the person helping you will speak adequate English.

I'll likely be buying a different brand this time around.  Even with my fairly well functioning Dell laptop, I still had to call support on a weekly basis, and went through about 3 DVD players, through no fault of my own.  You get what you pay for, I think, and there's a reason Dell is always having such good "deals" on their computers (which, incidentally, is why so many people buy them).
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: desmo on March 21, 2005, 03:37:36 PM
Burgh,

Why did you buy now and not wait until June-ish?  With any computer, the longer you delay the more you get.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: SuperMoni on March 21, 2005, 03:53:19 PM
Burgh,

Why did you buy now and not wait until June-ish? With any computer, the longer you delay the more you get.

I was also wondering this.  Also, does anyone know if the latitude's ever go on sale. I really like the x300!
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: AuburnChick on March 21, 2005, 03:56:41 PM
I bought the exact computer with the extra memory as well....i love my 6000...so do my neighbors...they are planning to buy the same computer
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 21, 2005, 03:59:04 PM
Burgh,

Why did you buy now and not wait until June-ish?  With any computer, the longer you delay the more you get.

Many reasons.  For one, I have already placed online classified ads looking to sell my current desktop.  If I find a buyer in the next week or two, I'll need to have my replacement ready to go before I sell.  Also, I will have so much stuff going on in the next few months with visiting schools and preparing to move.  I wanted to get my computer squared away now while I have the time to worry about it.  Then when June gets here, I won't have to.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: htrus on March 21, 2005, 04:24:56 PM
I use a Dell Latitude D600 at my current job. I have had it for about six months, and it is great so far, no issues.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 22, 2005, 07:09:57 PM
Heyy! Congrats!

Make sure to name it something cool.

Hahaha!  Only chicks do that.  No heterosexual man names his computer :)

But my friends Tori and Lisa had a gansta network in their apartment - computers P_DIDDY and PETEY_PABLO.  They were aptly named because they were both totally ghetto. 

By the way I got your PM. Thanks for the info on the Inspiron and Latitudes.  I'm confident I'll be loving life once my Inspiron shows up.  Ordered on Saturday night; Monday morning went from "Processing" through "Kitting", "Assembly", and "Testing" in about 3 hours; has been "Boxing" ever since.  I'm a little concerned they spend more time boxing these things up than they do testing them.   
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: soonertbone on March 22, 2005, 08:26:56 PM
Just thought that I'd throw in my two cents. I've bought three Dell desktops over the last five years. I didn't replace them because they were broken, I just constantly find myself upgrading my machine because Dell offers discounts I can't refuse. My current desktop is a Dimension 4600 and I've had it for about a year and a half. No problems yet.

My old desktop (I don't remember which kind it is) is being used as a hand-me-down for my siblings at home. It's probably three years old, and it's running fine as well.

I have had to call Dell Tech Support a few times for friends who didn't know how to fix their computer. I've never had a problem with them either.

I just ordered an Inspiron 6000 tonight, so we'll see how it goes. I never considered buying anything else, though.

I'm not going to say that Dell is the best or anything, because I don't have experience with anything else. Just thought I'd add some positive comments to the litany of complaints.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: AuburnChick on March 22, 2005, 08:31:23 PM
my only problem has been the messed up internet port...that doesnt bother me so much as the people they have hired for customer service....i cannot understand them and it pisses me off...i was on the phone with dell for an hour and 45 min. on Saturday!! Thats no fun  :-[
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: Doubledown Trent on March 24, 2005, 11:52:50 PM
i just got the 700m but without the extended warranty.  is there any way that i can get it now?  btw, if you look around for coupons, you can get dells for a lot cheaper.  i got mine for 1000, and that includes upgrading to 80g, 512, and extended battery.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: SuperMoni on March 25, 2005, 05:52:01 AM
you might be able to call them and still get it if you just bought the machine, it's worth a try.  I'm definately a big fan of the 3 year Complete Care warranty that Dell has because it covers everything and not just manufacturer parts
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 25, 2005, 08:44:00 AM
i just got the 700m but without the extended warranty.  is there any way that i can get it now?  btw, if you look around for coupons, you can get dells for a lot cheaper.  i got mine for 1000, and that includes upgrading to 80g, 512, and extended battery.

Your 700m is cheaper than my 6000 because it only has a 12" display, comes without a video card, and offers slower processors.  It's a "lightweight traveller", where my 6000 is a "desktop replacement".  Still, $1000 is a great deal for a 700m.  Dell's Web site says the 700m base model starts at $999 without any extra memory or harddrive.  But I needed at least a 15.4" display so I never considered the 700m. 

I'm really impressed with Dell's shipping.  I placed my order late Saturday night (Less than 6 days ago) and it wasn't originally scheduled to ship until the first week of April.  But it was built, tested, and shipped by Wednesday, and even though I selected the cheapest 3-5 day UPS ground shipping, it arrived today.   My office is closed, so I have to go out to UPS and pick it up myself... which I am on my way out the door to do now!  I'll let you all know how this bad boy looks when I get back.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: Dazed on March 25, 2005, 09:56:54 AM
btw, if you look around for coupons, you can get dells for a lot cheaper.  i got mine for 1000, and that includes upgrading to 80g, 512, and extended battery.

Can you let us know where to get a coupon like this?
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 25, 2005, 10:31:32 AM
btw, if you look around for coupons, you can get dells for a lot cheaper.  i got mine for 1000, and that includes upgrading to 80g, 512, and extended battery.

Can you let us know where to get a coupon like this?

You don't really need a "coupon".  If you go to Dell's Web site, the deals are already included by default.  These online "coupons" are just an advertising gimmick - they don't give you a lower price than you would be able to pay without the coupon.  Right now, Dell's promotion is 30% off most laptops and a free printer.  They have some coupons floating around the Internet to this effect, but if you go directly to their Web site you'll see that these specials are automatically included if you select an applicable model.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: hunterhogan on March 25, 2005, 11:12:51 AM
btw, if you look around for coupons, you can get dells for a lot cheaper.  i got mine for 1000, and that includes upgrading to 80g, 512, and extended battery.

Can you let us know where to get a coupon like this?

You don't really need a "coupon".  If you go to Dell's Web site, the deals are already included by default.  These online "coupons" are just an advertising gimmick - they don't give you a lower price than you would be able to pay without the coupon.  Right now, Dell's promotion is 30% off most laptops and a free printer.  They have some coupons floating around the Internet to this effect, but if you go directly to their Web site you'll see that these specials are automatically included if you select an applicable model.

This is often true, but not always true. There are coupons that you need the code for. Some can be found at http://www.techbargains.com/

Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: onepoint on March 25, 2005, 11:24:32 AM
fatwallet.com (http://www.fatwallet.com)

gotapex.com (http://www.gotapex.com)

slickdeals.net forum (http://forums.slickdeals.net/index.php?)

all have some pretty nifty coupons if you catch them at the right time.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: burghblast on March 25, 2005, 11:25:04 AM
btw, if you look around for coupons, you can get dells for a lot cheaper.  i got mine for 1000, and that includes upgrading to 80g, 512, and extended battery.

Can you let us know where to get a coupon like this?

You don't really need a "coupon".  If you go to Dell's Web site, the deals are already included by default.  These online "coupons" are just an advertising gimmick - they don't give you a lower price than you would be able to pay without the coupon.  Right now, Dell's promotion is 30% off most laptops and a free printer.  They have some coupons floating around the Internet to this effect, but if you go directly to their Web site you'll see that these specials are automatically included if you select an applicable model.

This is often true, but not always true. There are coupons that you need the code for. Some can be found at http://www.techbargains.com/

I checked that site out before I bought mine and the only coupons they had mirrored the offers on their Web site.  FYI, you get different offers on the same laptop models depending upon whether you buy it through their home, small business, or large business division.  I went through the small business division for the best deal on the Inspiron 6000 at the time.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: Doubledown Trent on March 25, 2005, 05:23:57 PM
i got my coupon through techbargains.com.  yeah, dell has their own promotions, but that would have only brought the price to about $1,200.  I used the techbargains coupon, and got it for 200 less (500 off any inspiron worth more than 1400).  i think that deal is over for now, but they run it pretty frequently.
i heard a rumor that the GW tech dept fixes dells or something.  anyone know if this is true?
and i second burgh's comment on their delivery.  i'll be getting mine on monday (free second day shipping), which is six days after i ordered it.
Title: Re: $1550 down the drain!
Post by: MR2Tyler on March 26, 2005, 01:21:14 PM
I've sold computers for a few years.  I've never sold Dell, so I know a lot more about what's wrong with them than what's right with them.  They tend to be more proprietary than the industry average.  They have developed a reputation for having poor tech support, but we can say that about most major manufacturers.  Neither of these issues should be salient for a reasonably computer-savvy laptop user.  Otherwise, Dell offers a great product at a ridiculously low price.  Good choice.

-Ty