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Deciding Where to Go => Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses => Topic started by: goodadvice (account resigned) on January 19, 2005, 02:55:13 PM

Title: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: goodadvice (account resigned) on January 19, 2005, 02:55:13 PM
Which schools are inherently the most "ist" ? For example,

Maybe Notre Dame is heavily Catholic and might be an uncomfortable environment for a secular Protestant or Jewish student.

There might be some southern school which is extremely racist and would not be a comfortable environment for a black student.

Maybe Washington & Lee is male dominated and would be an uncomfortable environment for a progressive feminist.

Maybe Cardozo-Yeshiva is heavily Jewish and might be an uncomfortable environment for an Arab or Christian student.

Maybe Berkley is super liberal and would be an uncomfortable environment for a conservative student.

(I'm not saying any of the above is true. I've never been to the schools and these are unsubstantiated examples.)

I think such a list would be very helpful. It would help students pick schools where they would feel at home and avoid schools where they would be uncomfortable. I think its a more helpful and useful use of our time to prepare such lists, than to over-argue affirmative action.

Please stay on topic, simply provide the school and what ist it is. Please do not turn this into another AA debate.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: goodadvice (account resigned) on January 19, 2005, 03:03:50 PM
Omigosh, are you serious?  Just reading your examples makes me uncomfortable!

Are you that unworldly and naive? Yes, lets stick people where they're uncomfortable and possibly even harassed, thats a great idea!

Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Gummo on January 19, 2005, 03:08:11 PM
Omigosh, are you serious?  Just reading your examples makes me uncomfortable!

Are you that unworldly and naive? Yes, lets stick people where they're uncomfortable and possibly even harassed, thats a great idea!



From reading your "unsubstantiated guesses", I might watch who I'm calling "unworldly and naive"...
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: goodadvice (account resigned) on January 19, 2005, 03:09:14 PM
Please stay on topic, simply provide the school and what ist it is.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: sejul on January 19, 2005, 03:10:24 PM
I think a lot of schools have "ist" reputations, but from what I've honestly seen/read/experienced, these are often reputations perpetuated by law school applicants, rather than actually being true indicators of a school’s environment.  I think that by the time we all head to law school, we're old enough to understand and accept diversity, and regardless of where you choose to go to school, there is going to be an outlet for your beliefs.  In law school, as in undergrad in most cases, you should go to the school that you feel will provide you with the best education and opportunities to succeed.  Overanalyzing a school’s “reputation” only serves to further unfair stereotypes, and perhaps make someone second-guess their decision to go somewhere he or she might otherwise have a great experience.


Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: goodadvice (account resigned) on January 19, 2005, 03:13:08 PM
Please stay on topic, simply provide the school and what ist it is.

If anyone else wants to get on their soap-box, please first review the following definition.

hy·poc·ri·sy    ( P )  n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies

The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.

An act or instance of such falseness.

An expression of agreement that is not supported by real conviction [syn: lip service]

Insincerity by virtue of pretending to have qualities or beliefs that you do not really have
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Gummo on January 19, 2005, 03:14:46 PM
Please stay on topic, simply provide the school and what ist it is.

If anyone else wants to get on their soap-box, please first review the following definition.

hy·poc·ri·sy    ( P )  n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies

The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.

An act or instance of such falseness.

An expression of agreement that is not supported by real conviction [syn: lip service]

Insincerity by virtue of pretending to have qualities or beliefs that you do not really have

Your username is i·ron·ic
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: goodadvice (account resigned) on January 19, 2005, 03:16:57 PM
Heads up, goodadvice.  There are going to be obnoxious/bigoted/racist/classist people everywhere. 

Yes and I'm sure such people are perfectly evenly distributed amongst the schools. In fact, the LSAC has a program, such that if one schools gets one too many bigots, they transfer them to another school!

Seriously, unlike your (possibly hypocritical) soapbox nonsense, such a list would actually be helpful to applicants. Since you're not able to stay on topic, please move on to another thread.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: twarga on January 19, 2005, 03:31:15 PM
I was a naive Catholic girl with very little exposure to anything other than Christianity.  I grew up not knowing any ethnic kids (small white town), or non-Christian kids.  When I went to college, my UG school had a large Jewish population; my roommate was Jewish and so was my boyfriend.  I learned a lot about this religion and although I never considered converting, I gained a great degree of respect for it.  Later, when I joined the AF, I made some awesome, lifelong friends (who happen to be white, black, hispanic, and Asian).  Thank God I didn't make the decision where to go to school and whether to join the military based on how many people would look, speak, think, and pray like me.  That would be so boring.
 
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: goodadvice (account resigned) on January 19, 2005, 03:42:36 PM
... you seem to have a knack for controversial threads.  Threads that are at times so unbelievably offensive, I question whether you are being truly serious when you pose some of your questions ....

Nice, when you get your behind kicked on substance, try to attack the person on completely unrelated issues. Pathetic.

Being told that there is racism in the world (as if you didn't know), or that some people are into grooming and fashion can be hurtful. But thats not what these threads are about so please stay on topic.

Such a list would be very helpful to applicants. I'm sure every year applicants naively go to schools where they are uncomfortable, harassed and don't do as well as their potential.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Gummo on January 19, 2005, 03:44:48 PM
... you seem to have a knack for controversial threads.  Threads that are at times so unbelievably offensive, I question whether you are being truly serious when you pose some of your questions ....

Nice, when you get your behind kicked on substance, attack the person on completely unrelated issues.

Being shown that you're a hypocrite, or that you have deplorable and anti-social grooming habits is hurtful, I understand that, but the solution isn't to attack the messenger, its to open your mind and accept the truth in the message.

I'll say it again, such a list would be very helpful to applicants. I'm sure every year applicants naively go to schools where they are uncomfortable, harassed and don't do as well as their potential.

BS; it just propagates baseless rumors and reputations.  There are racists everywhere.  There are religious zealots everywhere.  There are dirty hippies everywhere.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: twarga on January 19, 2005, 03:45:11 PM
OK everyone, let's let goodadvice know whether such a list would be helpful.  I say no.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: goodadvice (account resigned) on January 19, 2005, 03:45:58 PM

BS; it just propagates baseless rumors and reputations.  There are racists everywhere.  There are religious zealots everywhere.  There are dirty hippies everywhere.

But there are more of each at certain schools. Why is such a simple thing so hard to understand. Its really a simple concept.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: goodadvice (account resigned) on January 19, 2005, 03:47:11 PM
OK everyone, let's let goodadvice know whether such a list would be helpful.  I say no.

Wow this thread is getting censored! That just shows how important and valuable such a list would be.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: goodadvice (account resigned) on January 19, 2005, 03:49:18 PM
Twarga, since you mentioned all of your diverse friends and boyfriends, I'm curious. What was the race and religion of the person you ultimately married?
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Gummo on January 19, 2005, 03:50:16 PM

BS; it just propagates baseless rumors and reputations.  There are racists everywhere.  There are religious zealots everywhere.  There are dirty hippies everywhere.
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But there are more of each at certain schools. Why is such a simple thing so hard to understand. Wow. Its really a simple concept.

Anyone with their head outside of their rectum can guess which schools might be more religious and which schools might be more liberal.  But how the @#!* do a bunch of PRELAW (that is, have not attended any of the law schools they'd be labelling as "racist", "religious", or "liberal") know with any degree of certainty?

They don't.  So essentially, they'll be propagating rumors.

What a great service to all pre-law students this list would be!
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: goodadvice (account resigned) on January 19, 2005, 03:51:49 PM
But how the #@!* do a bunch of PRELAW (that is, have not attended any of the law schools they'd be labelling as "racist", "religious", or "liberal") know with any degree of certainty?

Perhaps they went to undergrad at the school.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Gummo on January 19, 2005, 03:54:44 PM
But how the #@!* do a bunch of PRELAW (that is, have not attended any of the law schools they'd be labelling as "racist", "religious", or "liberal") know with any degree of certainty?

Perhaps they went to undergrad at the school.

Well, I go to UF undergrad, but I wouldn't posit the theory that the law school is full of superficial drunken sluts and fratboys obsessed with football just because the undergrad is.

Because
I
Don't
Know
That.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: twarga on January 19, 2005, 03:57:46 PM
Twarga, since you mentioned all of your diverse friends and boyfriends, I'm curious. What was the race and religion of the person you ultimately married?

I married a cornfed white boy from Indiana.  What's your point?   ;)
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: goodadvice (account resigned) on January 19, 2005, 04:12:57 PM
I'm trying to channel unproductive AA energy into something useful. I can't believe people have time to post hundreds of AA threads, but can't post one thread about which schools are the most -ist.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 19, 2005, 05:25:44 PM
damn, julie can't find her favorite slippers.  you know, the ones with the bunny ears.  now where....
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 19, 2005, 05:26:48 PM
searching


searching


searching
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 19, 2005, 05:27:27 PM
oh.  here they are.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 19, 2005, 05:28:17 PM
never mind!
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 19, 2005, 05:28:47 PM
so, what's the topic?
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 19, 2005, 05:29:24 PM
hey, julie know:  let's talk fashion!
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 19, 2005, 05:29:57 PM
hellooooooooooooooo.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 19, 2005, 05:30:27 PM
yooooo hoooooo.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 19, 2005, 05:30:53 PM
dang.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: goodadvice (account resigned) on January 19, 2005, 05:38:01 PM
This thread is officially dead. Why do I even try. Why.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 19, 2005, 05:41:11 PM
ok, julie give up.  why?
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Rachelb1 on January 19, 2005, 08:20:37 PM
Well, if your mind is made up that CARDOZO is "too Jewish" and a non-Jew would be uncomfortable there, then there really is no point in trying to tell you otherwise.

Yes, it is a part of Yeshiva University and yes the school and library are closed on Saturday.  Yes, you will see male students wearing yarmulkes.  However, on my visits there, I also saw African American, Asian, and Hispanic students there.  There are ethnic student groups at the law school and everyone gets along.

I have friends of all ethnicities but Cardozo is my dream school precisely because it is a Jewish school and I wont be penalized for religious absences.  True, one isn't supposed to be penalized for that at any school, but in the real world, it's another story.

So does my wanting to go to a school where I will be comfortable with policies that matter to me make me a racist?   People like to associate with others who share their same cultural or ethnic background.  That's true among all ethnicities.  I dont see it as racist.  Racist is hating someone just because of the color of their skin, their national origin, or ethnic background. 

Nice thing about going to a Jewish school is LOTS OF DAYS OFF in the fall.

Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 19, 2005, 08:23:17 PM
see, goody, sometimes lightning strikes.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: DOWNY on January 19, 2005, 08:27:45 PM
But how the #@!* do a bunch of PRELAW (that is, have not attended any of the law schools they'd be labelling as "racist", "religious", or "liberal") know with any degree of certainty?

Perhaps they went to undergrad at the school.

Well, I go to UF undergrad, but I wouldn't posit the theory that the law school is full of superficial drunken sluts and fratboys obsessed with football just because the undergrad is.


I should have gone to UF.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Gummo on January 19, 2005, 08:31:18 PM
But how the #@!* do a bunch of PRELAW (that is, have not attended any of the law schools they'd be labelling as "racist", "religious", or "liberal") know with any degree of certainty?

Perhaps they went to undergrad at the school.

Well, I go to UF undergrad, but I wouldn't posit the theory that the law school is full of superficial drunken sluts and fratboys obsessed with football just because the undergrad is.


I should have gone to UF.

You probably would've enjoyed it, I think.

Although I hear the drunken sluts at FSU have even less self-respect than the ones here.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: DOWNY on January 19, 2005, 08:36:01 PM
HAHA. Sweet.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: goodadvice (account resigned) on January 19, 2005, 09:43:10 PM
Well, if your mind is made up that CARDOZO is "too Jewish" and a non-Jew would be uncomfortable there, then there really is no point in trying to tell you otherwise.

Yes, it is a part of Yeshiva University and yes the school and library are closed on Saturday.  Yes, you will see male students wearing yarmulkes.  However, on my visits there, I also saw African American, Asian, and Hispanic students there.  There are ethnic student groups at the law school and everyone gets along.

I have friends of all ethnicities but Cardozo is my dream school precisely because it is a Jewish school and I wont be penalized for religious absences.  True, one isn't supposed to be penalized for that at any school, but in the real world, it's another story.

So does my wanting to go to a school where I will be comfortable with policies that matter to me make me a racist?   People like to associate with others who share their same cultural or ethnic background.  That's true among all ethnicities.  I dont see it as racist.  Racist is hating someone just because of the color of their skin, their national origin, or ethnic background. 

Nice thing about going to a Jewish school is LOTS OF DAYS OFF in the fall.



Thats the whole point of this thread. Everyone should go where they are comfortable. Good for you that you were smart enough to find your comfort school.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: amelus on January 20, 2005, 03:01:43 AM
whereas at most good law schools you will be exposed to a variety of people from diverse backgrounds it is unlikely you will find any significant number of religious jews (there simply aren't enough to go around ;)).  cardozo will have more than any other.  they still will be a small minority.  i specify religious jews because the overall jewish presence there may also be a bit larger than other schools, but i doubt much more than most top schools on the east coast (or west coast).  it is hardly going to seem like it is a jewish school where, if you're not jewish, you will feel uncomfortable.  you'll just have off for holidays you didnt know existed and find the library closed on saturday.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 20, 2005, 03:44:09 AM
Thats the whole point of this thread. Everyone should go where they are comfortable. Good for you that you were smart enough to find your comfort school.

hey, that the spirit, goody!

julie figure you going to school that have most fashionable students, or maybe most tattletales.  or may you want one of those mostly-white schools in mostly-while area?  (but let's not discuss aa.)
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: twarga on January 20, 2005, 03:44:28 AM
hey, julie know:  let's talk fashion!

Hey Julie, I found my green outfit to match yours.   ;)  Mine cute and practical!
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 20, 2005, 03:47:17 AM
hey, julie know:  let's talk fashion!

Hey Julie, I found my green outfit to match yours.   ;)  Mine cute and practical!

very chic.  julie admire you for ability to look hot in that getup.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: twarga on January 20, 2005, 03:49:11 AM
Thank you, Julie.  If picture were bigger, you could see Parents magazine on desk and bottle of wine with me under desk.  Drunken military mama in a gas mask!
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 20, 2005, 03:50:35 AM
julie moved.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: jacy85 on January 20, 2005, 05:01:39 AM
I haven't even read this thread, just the first handful of posts.

goodadvice, you really need to stop f*cking posting things like Leave this thread if you won't discuss nicely or Stay on topic or go away

This is an internet discussion forum.  Whatever little games you played when you were 6 about bossing everyone around and ensuring that we all played games you like won't work here.  Your tactics immature and ridiculous.

When you post horrible topics like "Who wants to dress pretty in law school?" and "What schools will someone who dresses pretty like me be most likely to score a date at?" and "Which schools are the most different from what I believe so I can ensure that I never broaden my horizons?", people are going to rail on you.

It seems quite apparent that no one wants to "stay on topic" for your threads because they really have no place in a discussion about law school.

Based solely on your posts and what you've conveyed of yourself here, I highly suggest you sit down and rethink your priorities.  If you don't, you're going to be one very lonely 1L since people will avoid you like the plague.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: goodadvice (account resigned) on January 20, 2005, 06:11:13 AM
I wonder if I can get back on topic quicker if I address the off topic posts.

Honey, I can't be like you (poorly clothed? ungroomed? dateless? hypocritical on race issues?) I do things differently. Why does that have to bother you? I don't care if I'm the only person in school with this attitude. And if I were in a zombie movie, I wouldn't stop and let them eat my brain, I would run.

So ... Please stay on topic, simply provide the school and what -ist it is (or perhaps as in the case of the Cardozo posts, what -ist it isn't.)
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: jacy85 on January 20, 2005, 06:28:18 AM
I'll waste 2 more minutes on you because it amuses me.

1.  I find that I have better things to do with my time than to worry about running out and buying the lastest spring fashions.  Sorry, dear, but many of us have lives and hobbies and friends.  And I definitely have much more important things to do than worry about what everyone else in my 1L class will be wearing.

Does this mean I'm poorly clothed or ungroomed?  No.  I wear basics.  I buy pieces that will stay in style, and I tend to dress appropriately for whatever environment I'm in.  Ungroomed?  Not in the least.  I havent' had a cavity in years, which obviously means I brush and floss.  I wash my clothes, I shower.  Get a life.

2.  Dateless?  I'm currently with the man I'm going marry.  Based on the snippets of your personality you've revealed, you're going to have a hard time finding people who will sit next to you in the library, let alone spend the rest of their life with you.

3.  Hypocritical on race issues?  Where the f*ck do you even get that?  It seems like you going to a school that's "comfortable" for you means going to a school filled with people with all the same values and beliefs as you.  (Good luck. You won't find many law students obsessed with dressing like the the latest fashions in vogue magazine.)  It seems like you're not open to going to a schools where there's a significant number of people of different races, religions, politics.  Which means you dont' want to be confronted with their beliefs, you don't want to understand where they're coming from, you don't want to expose yourself to things different from you.  And that's very sad coming from someone who theoretically is very intelligent.

4.  And finally, grow up and stop trying to boss everyone around.  No one stays on topic because your topics are insulting and trivial.  Also, I'm sure a good number of people stray from the topic because they know you'll pull out the red font and stamp your feet and act like a child when things don't go your way on your threads.  You're not in first grade any more, honey.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: sejul on January 20, 2005, 06:30:20 AM
And if I were in a zombie movie, I wouldn't stop and let them eat my brain, I would run.

This seems horribly off-topic.   
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: jacy85 on January 20, 2005, 06:33:38 AM

This seems horribly off-topic.   


 :D Excellent use of the red font there.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: sejul on January 20, 2005, 06:40:36 AM

This seems horribly off-topic.   


 :D Excellent use of the red font there.

Thank you...I felt like I was channeling Buster for a minute ;)
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: goodadvice (account resigned) on January 20, 2005, 06:45:53 AM
I wonder if I can get back on topic quicker if I address the off topic posts.

Back to the drawing board ...
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 20, 2005, 08:49:08 AM
now, what's the name of that one state?
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 20, 2005, 08:50:51 AM
it's kinda square.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 20, 2005, 08:52:20 AM
it's on the river, julie know that.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 20, 2005, 08:53:21 AM
illinois around there somehow.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 20, 2005, 08:54:54 AM
it not wisconsin.  julie know that much, anyway.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 20, 2005, 08:56:23 AM
oh, geez-louise.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: twarga on January 20, 2005, 09:02:14 AM
Ooh, ooh, Julie!  Pick me!  Pick me!  Is it IOWA? 
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: WoeIsMe on January 20, 2005, 09:13:16 AM
searching


searching


searching

damn that's awesome
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: WoeIsMe on January 20, 2005, 09:14:30 AM
goodadvice
 


                                       stay




                                                                      on topic!!!
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: BC 3L on January 20, 2005, 09:19:59 AM
this has to be one of the best threads in a long time!  julie's off-the-topic comments were amazing.  as one who uses as little puncuation as possible, seeing all the read text, underlining and bold face is funny as hell!

please continue on...
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 20, 2005, 09:43:50 AM
goodadvice



stay




on topic!!!

nice indentation!
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 20, 2005, 09:45:46 AM
Ooh, ooh, Julie! Pick me! Pick me! Is it IOWA?

if julie say yes, will you take off that friggin' gas mask?
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 20, 2005, 09:48:46 AM
this has to be one of the best threads in a long time! julie's off-the-topic comments were amazing. as one who uses as little puncuation as possible, seeing all the read text, underlining and bold face is funny as hell!

please continue on...

we all thank you.  goody a veritable fountain of inspiration.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: twarga on January 20, 2005, 09:55:35 AM
Ooh, ooh, Julie! Pick me! Pick me! Is it IOWA?

if julie say yes, will you take off that friggin' gas mask?

Whew!  Thank God!  It gets hot and claustrophobic in that friggin' mask!
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 20, 2005, 10:10:28 AM
Ooh, ooh, Julie! Pick me! Pick me! Is it IOWA?

if julie say yes, will you take off that friggin' gas mask?

Whew! Thank God! It gets hot and claustrophobic in that friggin' mask!

not to mention, a.j. referred to you as "creature" on other thread.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: twarga on January 20, 2005, 10:23:42 AM
a.j. brave.   >:(
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 20, 2005, 10:31:15 AM
if only he as smart.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Trinitygunner on January 20, 2005, 11:57:40 AM
i agree with the sentiment of this board. i'm new to this message board...man, this is absurd. Racists? I've run into racists at Berkeley, and some of the most welcoming folks in  Greenville, South Carolina. there are racists in this world, but most of the time, what a lot of minorities percieve to be racism is simply ignorance! (especially in the realm that is law schools).

So, the short of it is--yes, its more difficult to be conservative at a place like Berkeley or Austin, and probably more difficult to be liberal @ Texas Tech in Lubbock. But it's difficult like...if i were to move to Germany, I might have a difficult time. Different people at different schools...makes the world go round, doesn't it?

I sense that the OP wanted to get some fiery controversy started here...
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 20, 2005, 12:06:20 PM
welcome, grasshopper.  try not to make so much sense, or you'll never fit in here.

julie used to think goody just baiting us, but now think she really just that goofy.  who knew?
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Trinitygunner on January 20, 2005, 01:01:41 PM
heh. grasshopper...
where's everyone thinking about going next year...racist and all.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: WoeIsMe on January 20, 2005, 01:02:53 PM
heh. grasshopper...
where's everyone thinking about going next year...racist and all.

whotsomotta U.... didn't you get the brochure?
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Julie Fern on January 20, 2005, 02:06:43 PM
heh. grasshopper...
where's everyone thinking about going next year...racist and all.

whotsomotta U.... didn't you get the brochure?

wise choice.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: giffy on January 21, 2005, 10:26:45 AM
This thread is officially dead. Why do I even try. Why.

Why do you...
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: Golden Bears on January 21, 2005, 03:03:54 PM
For what it is worth, I am currently an UG at Berkeley,and it is not as  liberal as one might think.  In fact I have met a substantial amount of very politically conservative people so I guess that just shows that it is problematic to peg a certain school as being especially racist, liberal, etc.  In all fairness to goodadvice, I was concerned about the political orientation of Berkeley when I first started there, but it has turned out to be a very good experience for me.  Moreover, I have found that extremists of any kind are really marginal in number.
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: nika22 on January 21, 2005, 08:46:08 PM
don't quite understand why there is such a stigma surrounding judgments and generalizations- even those who claim they don't make judgments place a moral judgment on those who do (ie. you are  narrowminded, a bad person,don't have a girlfriend, etc)

judgments in and of themselves are not bad (aren't they necessary for making decisions?) and with regard to law schools...why bother marketing a specific image, whether through brochures, mission statements, etc, if didn't want people to make a specific judgment about the school?

at any rate...

notre dame- went there for undergrad, conservative, catholic, chapels in every dorm; always exceptions to the rule, but for the most part conservative atmosphere, the law school prides itself on ethics

chicago- friend graduated from the law school, she says that although the school is famed as conservative, the atmosphere is much more moderate among the students/faculty

yale- remember reading in a pre-law book 'if you want to study sociology, go to yale'
Title: Re: Most biased (racist, politicalist, religiousist ... ) schools
Post by: giffy on January 22, 2005, 03:44:29 PM
Giffy is H I L A R I O U S.

But as a 1L who attends Cardozo and as a African American Woman you would think I would be able to contribute. But the premise under which this thread was started is so idiotic I can't even take it seriously.

Goodadvice, if u really want to know what the culture is like at particular schools, why don't u to some research on the particular schools in which you are interested. Furthermore, you would think that it would be most helpful to ask students who actually attend these schools instead of pre-law students (no offense to anyone) who don't attend the institutions and can only make assumptions or guesses based upon what they heard instead of what they have experienced.

But attempting to label schools isn't the way to go, it's not healthy, positive, or helpful.

HTH

And feel free to label this comment as offensive b/c I called the premise idiotic. It won't change the fact that it is in fact, IDIOTIC.

Thanks  ;D and ya the presmise is idiotic. Very very idiotic.