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LSAT Preparation => Studying for the LSAT => Topic started by: M2 on March 27, 2004, 12:07:36 PM

Title: first practice test = 155...i'm REALLY bad at games
Post by: M2 on March 27, 2004, 12:07:36 PM
ok I took my first practice test, and I scored a 155.

I would have done MUCH better if i had gotten more of the logic game questions. I only got 7 out of 24 in that section!!!
Note I did not guess at any of the LG questions...I left some blank and counted them as wrong, because I wanted to get a worse case scenario...in reality I suppose that I could expect 20% of those guesses to be correct which would have raised my score a tiny bit...

Does anyone think it is possible for me to greatly improve my logic games score, between now and June?
If I would have gotten 17/24 right i would have scored a 161...

At least I know what my main focus should be... :-\

Is this horrible for a first attempt?
Title: Re: first practice test = 155...i'm REALLY bad at games
Post by: camelbx on March 27, 2004, 12:26:00 PM
Oh yeah. 17/24 from 7/24 might be a tall order though, but shoot for it.

I came from about 5/24 to roughly 14/24.

Don't neglect the ability you have to ace the other sections; especially when a certain section occurs twice. Studying that section will pay off double.

Home study from practice of 150 to 164 1st LSAT.
PEECE.
Title: Re: first practice test = 155...i'm REALLY bad at games
Post by: hookem law on March 27, 2004, 01:50:33 PM
Logic games is the most coachable, least intuitive section of the test.  Dramatic improvement is easiest realized on this section.  I went from 54% (must have been like 14/26) to 20/23 on the real thing.  But make sure to master the arguments section because there are roughly 50 of those question on the test compared to roughly 25 of the other two sections.
Title: Re: first practice test = 155...i'm REALLY bad at games
Post by: blizzard of ozz on March 27, 2004, 02:41:45 PM
I wouldn't worry too much. My first practice test was a 152. Just study your ass off. Take lots of REAL LSAT tests. My games score was less than stellar too.

btw a 3.4 in comp sci isn't that bad. most LS's don't really care where you graduated from.
Title: Re: first practice test = 155...i'm REALLY bad at games
Post by: thechoson on March 27, 2004, 03:02:35 PM
My first practice was 149.  I scored a 165 on the real deal, so it's no big concern
Title: Re: first practice test = 155...i'm REALLY bad at games
Post by: M2 on March 27, 2004, 04:05:31 PM
I just worked through all the problem I missed...I just can't believe how stupid some of my mistakes were... hopefully that's a good sign. I'm taking another practice one on Wednesday.. (2/week until june-lsat), so i will see if I do any better.
Title: Re: first practice test = 155...i'm REALLY bad at games
Post by: dta on March 29, 2004, 11:46:03 PM
yeah - i too have gotten all obsessed with it. my main concern? That i'll blow my wad and use up all my prep material too soon. Gotta pace myself and save a lot of tests for the last month.
Title: Re: first practice test = 155...i'm REALLY bad at games
Post by: hdsteele on March 30, 2004, 06:00:40 AM
I think a word of caution is in order based on the 500 or so posts I've read on the subject (but again just my $.02!!)  2 1/2 months is NOT considered a lot of time to study for the LSAT.  Of course that somewhat depends on where you are starting out score-wise.  However, there are MANY posts by those who under estimated the test and paid for it when they get their score. 
Title: Re: first practice test = 155...i'm REALLY bad at games
Post by: nathanielmark on March 30, 2004, 08:28:22 AM
I dont think the amount of calendar days you use to study is as important as the number of hours you put in studying.

i started early in order to pace myself.  and not wanting to use anything but actual LSATs to practice on, i found i could only do a timed section a day without running out of prep material at the end.

im glad to see some other people are actually studying for the june test.  i remember when i started posting on here a little over a month ago, nobody had much to say.

It doesnt sound like dta or m2 are underestimating the test either.  there is no better prep then taking timed actual LSATs, unless you are very weak on a particular section and need other help.

Title: Re: first practice test = 155...i'm REALLY bad at games
Post by: dta on March 30, 2004, 02:47:50 PM
It sounds like you're not taking a prep course nm. That is, of course, totally reasonable especially considering the amount of self guided study you're doing. One thing I would mention though is, at least a few times before the test, to create as real a scenario as possible for some of your practice exams.

I took my first proctored exam w/ PR last saturday. People sitting right next to me. Caughing. Sneezing. A stupid lady saying "bless you" every time some one sneezed. The sound of people erasing away furiously. The proctor giving no time in-between sections (i usually take a 90 second break at home). The annoying fact that i'm the only > 30 year old in the room. The brewing adrenalin rush cause it feels kinda real and official.

All of those psychological factors are present in a proctored environment that aren't present when practicing on your own. So, I would just really recommend to try and take some of your practice exams in as realistic, or in as harsh, an environment as you can. Maybe take an exam in a noisy bus-station or something. Maybe ask a friend to come along and proctor it for you and be a real hard-ass and not give you any time in-between sections. Just knowing you're NOT in control of when you start the next section is a HUGE psychological factor.
Title: Re: first practice test = 155...i'm REALLY bad at games
Post by: nathanielmark on March 31, 2004, 06:02:10 AM
good grief.  the bless you lady says it all. i took the test just over 5+ years ago, and did not prep very hard, though i did take a kaplan course.  at the time, believe it or not, a 165 was a top 10 law school score, and since i was hitting that without much extra work, i did not see the need to break my back.

but yes, i remember the first kaplan monitored test, i really blew the games section.  i almost took a course this time around for the sole reason of getting monitored tests. i just couldnt justify the money though, knowing that the rest of the class would be relatively useless to me.  but i will take your advice and take a couple full timed tests on someone elses watch.  i was hoping that all the timed work i do now would do enough, but it cant hurt to be extra prepared.

i hope i dont have any idiots in my testing room like the bless you lady.  i have heard that not many people take the june test so i am hoping it will be in a small class with 30 or so students, unlike the last one that had over a hundred.
Title: Re: first practice test = 155...i'm REALLY bad at games
Post by: dta on March 31, 2004, 11:03:38 AM
here in Austin, the june test is completely filled - no more slots available. You have to go to Houston, San-Antonio, or Dallas to take the exam. And even those are almost full. Anyone in texas who waits much longer to sign up will have to go out of state to take the exam!

Great - even more pressure to get a high score. Seems everyone is coming out of the wood-work to go to law school. Wish this damn economy would pick up and everyone forgets about law school.
Title: Re: first practice test = 155...i'm REALLY bad at games
Post by: Ivy_Hopeful on March 31, 2004, 11:33:09 AM
Yeah I know, why don't some people leave law school to those who REALLY want to go and have always wanted to become successful attorneys!
Title: Re: first practice test = 155...i'm REALLY bad at games
Post by: nathanielmark on March 31, 2004, 11:57:33 AM

 Wish this damn economy would pick up and everyone forgets about law school.

I don't think its the economy so much as the job market.  I work for a large IT services company myself and am going back to school partially because i see the writing on the wall for corporate work in the 5+ year horizon and don't want to be stuck flipping burgers.

More importantly, i get about as much satisfaction from my work as I do from cleaning the toilet.  but the money is reasonable, the benefits are good, workload is pretty easy, so i really have nothing to complain about.  im hoping i can keep this job until i graduate.

so much for my theory about the june LSAT, with my luck it will be in a hot room with no AC and marching band practice outside.