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Title: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 09, 2008, 12:33:58 PM
Anyone else decide on attending SLU?  If you are, you are sweet.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 09, 2008, 02:31:08 PM
Hi. I already go there, but I'm dual degree so I'll be graduating with you.

Nice to meet you.  :)
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: miljl1 on April 09, 2008, 02:32:49 PM
Looks like I'll be at SLU as well. What dual degree program are you doing, skeeball?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 09, 2008, 04:21:04 PM
Skeebal,

When did you declare your dual degree?  Are you both from the St. Louis area or from out of town?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 09, 2008, 04:22:13 PM
And nice to meet you too Skeebal.  Any information you can give me on St. Louis that I may not have heard at the admitted students weekend or from this board?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 09, 2008, 05:56:27 PM
I'm JD/MHA. I filled out the application over break, and filed it the week before classes start. Big warning: if you're considering a degree with the SPH, they are a PAIN to deal with. They took so long to give me an answer on everything, I had to call/email to remind them.

I'm from St. Louis. I live in the suburbs b/c my boyfriend bought a house down here before we met.

They're rebuilding Highway 40, and the eastern half will be closed starting January, which will make getting around a lot tougher for much of the SLU community. Keep that in mind when you're deciding where to  live.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: miljl1 on April 09, 2008, 08:27:36 PM
I'm actually from Memphis. I'm looking at apartments right now right around SLU, so hopefully I won't have to drive that far, if at all.

Anyway, I'm in the middle of talks with people about doing a JD/MA in Philosophy (that's not bioethics).
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 09, 2008, 09:05:32 PM
I am definitely going to live either in midtown St. Louis in one of the buildings across from the law school or in Central West End.  I am not going to have a car and want to be within walking distance of the school.  What areas are you looking at?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: miljl1 on April 10, 2008, 08:22:15 AM
I'm looking around Central West End...mostly between the park that is to the west of the school and the the campus. I've been just using internet sources for now. I won't have a chance to actually visit the school and the area to find a place to live until after graduation in a few weeks. But I plan on moving end of May/early June, which means I also need to find a job.

Anyone else going to be in STL for the summer?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on April 10, 2008, 08:26:12 AM
I'm looking around Central West End...mostly between the park that is to the west of the school and the the campus. I've been just using internet sources for now. I won't have a chance to actually visit the school and the area to find a place to live until after graduation in a few weeks. But I plan on moving end of May/early June, which means I also need to find a job.

Anyone else going to be in STL for the summer?

I'll be working up until the end of July and moving a few weeks before orientation. A friend of mine is a 1L now and we are looking in the Central West End as well. Hwy 40 being closed poses a problem if you want to live farther out, but there are plenty of places to live around school.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 10, 2008, 10:12:17 AM
Central West End seems like a really cool place to live.  I will be heading out in the beginning of May to check out apartments, but will not be moving to St. Louis until around orientation time. 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 10, 2008, 01:32:25 PM
I would advise against the apartments right next to campus. The ones on Lindell are crazy expensive, and the lofts on Laclede have paper-thin walls.

Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 10, 2008, 04:11:00 PM
My only concern is with transportation.  Even though Central West End isn't that far from the Law school it seems so convenient to live across from the school.  Buses don't run past 12 so I am worried that I will have a tough time getting back to an apartment in Central West End.  However, I like CWE a lot better.  Any advice?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: upgrade on April 10, 2008, 04:15:39 PM
Is the Metrolink useful in your scenario?  I think it runs until 1:00 AM.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 10, 2008, 04:41:24 PM
The Metrolink is kinda out of the way and I also think that it only runs until 12 as well.  Does the library close at 12 or did I misunderstand during Accepted Students Weekend?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 10, 2008, 06:54:07 PM
Library closes at 12.

If there's anyway you can have a car, you'll want to. Public transportation in St. Louis sucks. CWE is a good location if you can find something reasonably priced. Dogtown is good too.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 10, 2008, 08:25:19 PM
I am almost positive that I am not going to have a car.  I guess I will have to make sure to catch that last bus.  I am thinking of getting a bike to make things a little easier.  Where is Dogtown?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: miljl1 on April 10, 2008, 09:19:53 PM
I think Dogtown is the area south of the park which is west of the campus.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 11, 2008, 04:31:34 PM
I am almost positive that I am not going to have a car.  I guess I will have to make sure to catch that last bus.  I am thinking of getting a bike to make things a little easier.  Where is Dogtown?

CWE with a bike is doable. Although, I"m not sure how a backpack full of casebooks works on a bike. Whatever, just don't be out too late.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 11, 2008, 05:16:01 PM
Yea, I am not too worried about it.  I will just leave the library at like 1130 the latest.  I don't want to be there much later than that anyway.  I have heard that the library gets pretty crowded and some people speak of it as a negative at SLU.  What is up with this?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 11, 2008, 06:14:21 PM
I think the problem happens more in the evening hours, and I'm usually out of here by 6. People complain about the undergrads taking up all the good tables, but people complain about that at any law school.

One thing that does suck about the library is that there aren't enough tables/cubbies with power outlets.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: upgrade on April 11, 2008, 08:31:40 PM
I think the problem happens more in the evening hours, and I'm usually out of here by 6. People complain about the undergrads taking up all the good tables, but people complain about that at any law school.

One thing that does suck about the library is that there aren't enough tables/cubbies with power outlets.

Undergraduates are not promptly removed from the law library when there are space problems? 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 12, 2008, 09:27:00 AM
Don't the undergrads have there own library and places to study?  Has anyone brought up the outlet situation to anyone? 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: upgrade on April 12, 2008, 09:30:20 AM
Don't the undergrads have there own library and places to study?  Has anyone brought up the outlet situation to anyone? 

The outlet problem, yes, my tour guide mentioned it was a common complaint of students. 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 12, 2008, 09:31:55 AM
It doesn't seem like a difficult problem to fix.  Does anyone use the business building to study?  I hear that the business building is real nice.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 12, 2008, 11:19:26 AM
They don't want to start banning non-law students from the library, b/c then other libraries will start banning us.  The business school is nice, but they don't really have their own library, they just have some break-out rooms that you don't need to reserve, you can just go on in and use them. I go there a lot. But those rooms are full a lot of times.

I brought up the outlet problem at the Dean Forum meeting this week and my suggestion was brushed off, which I found annoying. I'm a commuter, so I don't participate in a lot of SBA activities--I'd rather see me student fees go toward the outlet problem than throwing an post-finals kegger.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 12, 2008, 01:46:25 PM
Skeeball...Tell me the truth.  How much free time did you actually have during your first year of law school? 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 12, 2008, 02:13:30 PM
Umm...

Most nights (except when a big assignment is due or it's close to finals), I quit working by the time my SO got home around 6 or 7 p.m. I put in about 4-5 hours on Sat & Sun each. But there were some days I came home and did nothing at all, and one weekend where I went out of town for a day.

I think I've been less busy than when I was studying for the LSAT and working full time. I could probably stand to put in a little more time than I do.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 12, 2008, 02:39:26 PM
That was probably a pretty tough question, especially because everyone is different.  Doesn't sound too bad though.  I will just have a tough time on weekends, especially during the fall with all the football that I will want to watch.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 12, 2008, 02:51:44 PM
That was probably a pretty tough question, especially because everyone is different.  Doesn't sound too bad though.  I will just have a tough time on weekends, especially during the fall with all the football that I will want to watch.

Yeah, I was glad the Rams sucked this year and that the Cardinals played in the World Series the year BEFORE I went to LS. Now March Madness was a different story...
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: upgrade on April 12, 2008, 04:29:57 PM
Almost every school I have visited has a publicly posted policy that states law students have preference over undergraduates in the law library.  I have a hard time believing that the school's primary library would ban law school students specifically from using the facilities.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on April 13, 2008, 01:45:06 PM
Almost every school I have visited has a publicly posted policy that states law students have preference over undergraduates in the law library.  I have a hard time believing that the school's primary library would ban law school students specifically from using the facilities.

Who cares if they "ban" law students from other libraries? A) We probably wouldn't need those libraries much anyway and B) I don't think libraries can "ban" anyone unless you make too much noise. Oh, well.

But yeah, awesome thread here. I was looking for one of these in this section, but was too unmotivated to go digging through here to find a SLU student thread until it showed up on the front page. I've lived in STL my whole life, so I can answer questions on anything from where to live to why the Blues will win a Stanley Cup in the next ten years. For you Central West End people, I don't know too much about apartment pricing in that area, but that seems like it would be pretty expensive to live there on a budget. Dogtown was a good suggestion that might be a little cheaper without much of a drive.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 13, 2008, 05:50:48 PM
Jammer,

Where exactly is Dogtown?  I have found some apartments in CWE that do not seem to expensive.  Especially coming from New York, the prices seem pretty good.  Is Dogtown on the other side of the park?  Have you lived in St. Louis all of your life and are you gonna be a first year next year?  Basically, what is your deal?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on April 13, 2008, 09:59:59 PM
Jammer,

Where exactly is Dogtown?  I have found some apartments in CWE that do not seem to expensive.  Especially coming from New York, the prices seem pretty good.  Is Dogtown on the other side of the park?  Have you lived in St. Louis all of your life and are you gonna be a first year next year?  Basically, what is your deal?

Well, coming from New York, yeah the prices would seem cheap, but it seems like there are cheaper rents to be had in STL. Dogtown would be south of campus, probably about 10-20 minutes away from SLU by car. I know of some SLU undergrads who have apartments in Soulard, which is also about ten minutes out, but it's also home to the Mardi Gras celebration...probably cheaper than the Cwe.

As for me, I'll be a 1L next year. I've lived in Stl my whole life, with the exception of four years of undergrad down I-70 in KC.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: miljl1 on April 14, 2008, 08:29:55 AM
Some of the places I'm looking at in CWE are about the same or cheaper than my apartment I have now in Memphis, although the places I'm looking at are all bigger. (I can't handle being cramped in a small studio for another 3 years.) It looks like I'll be making a trip up there in a few weeks to try and find a place and do all the paperwork before moving in late May.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 14, 2008, 02:15:50 PM
My problem is that I won't have a car.  I don't want to live in a place where I will need one to get to and from school.  CWE seems like the perfect location to me as it is not right near the school but is in walking distance.  The prices of apartments that I will be checking out really don't seem too bad, but I do understand that you can find even cheaper places.  When I was at admitted students weekend I checked out Soulard and Downtwon St. Louis and liked those areas but CWE seems like the best for me.  I am heading down in early May to find a place.  What does everyone think about living alone?  I wouldn't mind living alone but I sometimes wonder what would be better.  Living alone, or with a roomate?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on April 14, 2008, 02:19:01 PM
My problem is that I won't have a car.  I don't want to live in a place where I will need one to get to and from school.  CWE seems like the perfect location to me as it is not right near the school but is in walking distance.  The prices of apartments that I will be checking out really don't seem too bad, but I do understand that you can find even cheaper places.  When I was at admitted students weekend I checked out Soulard and Downtwon St. Louis and liked those areas but CWE seems like the best for me.  I am heading down in early May to find a place.  What does everyone think about living alone?  I wouldn't mind living alone but I sometimes wonder what would be better.  Living alone, or with a roomate?

If you aren't planning on having a car then you're probably right to go with CWE.

I'll be living with a roommate, possibly two. I've lived alone the past year (since being out of UG) but I'd rather save the money and live with a buddy for those rare times that I won't be doing work.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 14, 2008, 02:21:40 PM
I understand that.  It's just that I don't know anyone yet and I don't think I can trully meet anyone before I would sign a lease.  That is my main problem.  If I were able to meet someone in the near future I would be all for living with a roomate.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: upgrade on April 14, 2008, 02:34:17 PM
I understand that.  It's just that I don't know anyone yet and I don't think I can trully meet anyone before I would sign a lease.  That is my main problem.  If I were able to meet someone in the near future I would be all for living with a roomate.

Most posters on LSD seem to be fairly cool, at least the several I have actually met.  You may want to post on the forum, but I would advise removing "lube" from your handle. =)
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 14, 2008, 02:37:45 PM
You don't like my user name?  My last name is Lubeck haha.  I think I would rather live alone than  meet someone randomly on a discussion forum.  A lot of the users on this group seem to have a place already or already have roomates.  Is SLU going to start up some sort of discussion board or something of individuals attending next fall?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 14, 2008, 02:45:33 PM
You don't like my user name?  My last name is Lubeck haha.  I think I would rather live alone than  meet someone randomly on a discussion forum.  A lot of the users on this group seem to have a place already or already have roomates.  Is SLU going to start up some sort of discussion board or something of individuals attending next fall?

You should go look on the website, they might have something like this. Or call the admissions department, they'll try to help you out if they can.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: upgrade on April 14, 2008, 02:48:09 PM
I thought I received something from the school about an admitted student's website.  I may have that mixed up with another school, though. 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 14, 2008, 02:53:02 PM
There is an admitted students page on the website but I don't remember anything about contacting class of 2011 students.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on April 14, 2008, 03:12:29 PM
I understand that.  It's just that I don't know anyone yet and I don't think I can trully meet anyone before I would sign a lease.  That is my main problem.  If I were able to meet someone in the near future I would be all for living with a roomate.

I'll be in town a month from now to see Radiohead and check out some places. I'm sure you could meet some people at some point. A lot will be coming from St. Louis or surrounding areas anyway.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: miljl1 on April 14, 2008, 03:17:06 PM
I remember reading somewhere that they will post the 2011 discussion board soon. Don't remember where I read that...perhaps in the admissions materials.


Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on April 14, 2008, 03:29:15 PM
There is an admitted students page on the website but I don't remember anything about contacting class of 2011 students.

Can someone send me a link to this? I tried finding it on the SLU site, but with no luck. Or are you guys just talking about mySLU?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 14, 2008, 03:44:08 PM
http://law.slu.edu/admissions/admitted

I am gonna call the school tomorrow and see about the discussion board.  I can only come to St. Louis in early May, so I would have to meet someone by then.  I don't really like my chances.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on April 14, 2008, 04:35:01 PM
http://law.slu.edu/admissions/admitted

I am gonna call the school tomorrow and see about the discussion board.  I can only come to St. Louis in early May, so I would have to meet someone by then.  I don't really like my chances.

Thanks for the link!

It's all a matter of personal preference really when it comes to having a roommate...but I would prefer to live alone for law school. I'll be living at home, which is virtually the same thing, but I turned down a roommate offer from a friend of mine who's still at SLU undergrad. It would've been fun...but therein lies the problem. I probably wouldn't have done any work. So, unless you really want a roommate, it might actually be better. I don't know...just my two cents.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 14, 2008, 04:46:46 PM
That all makes sense.  I am not worried about living alone.  Once I actually meet people I can just go to their apartment's or they could come to mine.  All that I am going to do in my apartment is sleep, eat, study and watch TV.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: miljl1 on April 14, 2008, 05:31:50 PM
For you guys who are from St. Louis...can you tell me anything about the area just south of 64 and the large park? I'm looking at a place right across the interstate from the park.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 14, 2008, 05:42:49 PM
For you guys who are from St. Louis...can you tell me anything about the area just south of 64 and the large park? I'm looking at a place right across the interstate from the park.

It's probably fine as long as you can plan a route to school that doesn't involve using the highway--it'll be shut down starting in January.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on April 14, 2008, 05:52:49 PM
For you guys who are from St. Louis...can you tell me anything about the area just south of 64 and the large park? I'm looking at a place right across the interstate from the park.

The large park...do you mean Forest Park? Perhaps a neighborhood name would be more helpful. Are you looking at The Hill? Tower Grove? Dogtown? I don't think the highway 40 construction will affect you in that neck of the woods, because it's closed further east from the route you need to go to SLU. I think it's going to be somewhere near the end of 2008/beginning of 2009 before the stretch that would hamper your highway travel to SLU is closed, but I could be wrong. Either way, it's pretty easy to get to SLU through the city without the highway.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: miljl1 on April 14, 2008, 07:56:08 PM
Sorry, it's Dogtown (just south of 64 across from the park).
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 15, 2008, 07:46:43 AM
For all those who either are from St. Louis or who have been there a bunch of times.  What do you really like about St. Louis and what don't you like?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on April 15, 2008, 07:59:22 AM
For all those who either are from St. Louis or who have been there a bunch of times.  What do you really like about St. Louis and what don't you like?

I like the closeness of the city. I'm from KC which seems very spread out compared to StL. Neighborhoods like Clayton, Richmond Heights etc are really nice and seem more affordable than similar neighborhoods in other cities (affordable as in when I'm ready for a mortgage).

There's also a really good variety of bar scenes. Soulard is kind of a cool, old-town feel. There's also a lot of really good live music there usually. Downtown is a little pricey but has a lot of different options (pubs to clubs). The Loop is ok too, though not really my scene.

I think the city has a lot to offer to people our age- sports, social life, a decent business and legal market (for the midwest anyway).

The things I've seen that I'm not a big fan of: the crime seems pretty heavy and sometimes the people (no offense to you St. Louisians) are a bit pretentious. Knowing a lot of people from there gives me the impression that the whole city is an "old-boy" network. Evidenced by the fact that the first question you'll hear from one St. Louisian to another is always "Where did you go to highschool?"
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: t L on April 15, 2008, 08:04:48 AM
The things I've seen that I'm not a big fan of: the crime seems pretty heavy

The crime in St. Louis is very concentrated in certain areas.  And you can and will avoid them.

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and sometimes the people (no offense to you St. Louisians) are a bit pretentious. Knowing a lot of people from there gives me the impression that the whole city is an "old-boy" network. Evidenced by the fact that the first question you'll hear from one St. Louisian to another is always "Where did you go to highschool?"

TITCR.  Most people that live in St. Louis ARE FROM St. Louis.  So, you'll get a lot of this.  I can safely assume that a lot of the kids at SLU are from the metro area too.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 15, 2008, 08:07:20 AM
Where is this crime generally located?  East St. Louis?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on April 15, 2008, 08:08:23 AM
Where is this crime generally located?  East St. Louis?

The heaviest crime is there, but there are pockets all over. The immediate area surrounding SLU isn't exactly crime-free. The Jesuits had a tendency to put their schools in the middle of areas they deemed as in need of "reform." See: Marquette, et al.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 15, 2008, 08:11:05 AM
So what your saying is that it might not be the best idea to walk alone down Lindell towards CWE at night by yourself?  The area is 100 times better than it was 15 years ago.  That's what I think I heard.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on April 15, 2008, 08:13:31 AM
So what your saying is that it might not be the best idea to walk alone down Lindell towards CWE at night by yourself? 

I don't know that it's that bad. I just know that one of the amenities I'm looking for in a place to live is off-street/gated parking.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 15, 2008, 08:16:34 AM
Ok...Whenever I mention I am going to St. Louis a comment is made about how dangerous it is.  When I went to visit I looked around always thinking that I was in a dangerous area but never really got that feeling.  I think it is like any bigger city.  You are going to have some areas that are less safe than others.  I get the sense that a lot of the reputation for crime in St. Louis is because of East St. Louis and because people don't realize how much the area by SLU has changed over the past 10-15 years.  Is this about right?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: t L on April 15, 2008, 08:17:09 AM
Where is this crime generally located?  East St. Louis?

North St. Louis is the absolute worst part of STL.  The immediate area around SLU is OK, but a couple of blocks down on Grand, and it gets pretty rough.  The county is the safest area in St. Louis.  I would assume Downtown is safe, but not many people live or hang out Downtown.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 15, 2008, 08:19:13 AM
Where is this crime generally located?  East St. Louis?

North St. Louis is the absolute worst part of STL.  The immediate area around SLU is OK, but a couple of blocks down on Grand, and it gets pretty rough.  The county is the safest area in St. Louis.  I would assume Downtown is safe, but not many people live or hang out Downtown.

What constitutes North St. Louis.  I did get a sense that by the MetroLink stop that it wasn't the safest and that is a big reason why I don't really want to have to take the Metrolink to class.  Also, what areas are the county?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Shellby117 on April 15, 2008, 08:56:14 AM
For all those who either are from St. Louis or who have been there a bunch of times.  What do you really like about St. Louis and what don't you like?

I'm from St. Louis...been here my whole life, except the 4 years of undergrad. Being away for 4 years in a smaller town made me love St. Louis even more. There is always something to do here....and it's not just the same thing every weekend (unless that's what you want). My favorite summer activites are going to Cards games, The Muny, The Zoo (which is free here, apparently that's not the case in other cities), Live on the Levee (summer concert series every Friday and Saturday night in July by the Arch...free), Soulard is my favorite place to drink at....mostly young people, reminds me of college.

The thing I don't like is the traffic. Especially since they closed 64/40...270 is pretty much the worst thing ever between 7:30-9:30 and 4:00-6:00. A drive that would normally take 15 minutes with no traffic will take 2 hours during those times (I work downtown but live 30 minutes away...hence my bitching). Also, no matter what...there will always be some sort of construction going on somewhere. I swear they spend years finishing one stretch of something, then years finishing the other streth only to start back up on the first stretch again. I think the construction workers just get bored.

the first question you'll hear from one St. Louisian to another is always "Where did you go to highschool?"

 ;D That couldn't be more true. I had a professor in undergrad from St. Louis and he actually did a study of so many major cities (I don't remember how many he said) and found out that St. Louis is the only city that does that.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 15, 2008, 09:05:32 AM
Shellby,

What is your view on the safety/crime issue?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Shellby117 on April 15, 2008, 09:57:23 AM
Shellby,

What is your view on the safety/crime issue?

Everyone seems freaked out because of that report that labeled St. Louis as the most dangerous city. That report only looked at the City (population 330,000) not the County (population 980,000). Not exactly a fair assessment if you ask me. Is there crime here...of course, along with every other major city. Just stay out of East St. Louis (it's in Illinois across the river) and north of the city (i.e. north of downtown). There really is no reason to ever need to go to these places anyway. SLU is in the city of St. Louis and yes things do happen. But lets be real here...this is the country. Don't walk around at night by yourself (night=when it's dark; after 7:00 in the summer, after 6:00 in the winter), don't stop for the "homeless" people that come up to you (this will happen, and sometimes it's a trick to let someone else jump you), lock your doors at night and just be aware of your surroundings. I know plenty of people that went to SLU undergrad and all came out unharmed, so I don't think it's something you should stress about.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: upgrade on April 15, 2008, 10:11:44 AM
Shellby,

What is your view on the safety/crime issue?

I've had only one problem in my visits to St. Louis and that was just a rich drunk kid who thought he could impress my brother's girlfriend.  For that matter, I have been out late at night in awful neighborhoods in Detroit and New Orleans and never had a problem.

Of course, Missouri allows concealed carry, if you are still apprehensive. =)
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: t L on April 15, 2008, 10:28:49 AM
Shellby,

What is your view on the safety/crime issue?

Everyone seems freaked out because of that report that labeled St. Louis as the most dangerous city. That report only looked at the City (population 330,000) not the County (population 980,000). Not exactly a fair assessment if you ask me. Is there crime here...of course, along with every other major city. Just stay out of East St. Louis (it's in Illinois across the river) and north of the city (i.e. north of downtown)

TITCR.  North St. Louis = North of Downtown.

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SLU is in the city of St. Louis and yes things do happen. But lets be real here...this is the country. Don't walk around at night by yourself (night=when it's dark; after 7:00 in the summer, after 6:00 in the winter), don't stop for the "homeless" people that come up to you (this will happen, and sometimes it's a trick to let someone else jump you), lock your doors at night and just be aware of your surroundings. I know plenty of people that went to SLU undergrad and all came out unharmed, so I don't think it's something you should stress about.

TITCR again.  The crime issue is overblown.  Like I said before, it is in concentrated areas.  You will NEVER have a need to go to these areas.  As long as you're city-smart, you'll be fine.

Also, what areas are the county?

St. Louis County is the area outside of the city that is made up of municipalities.  Some of them are good (Clayton, Brentwood, etc.).  Some of them are bad (Wellston, Berkeley, etc.).  Some of just average/ok crime-wise (Florissant, U-City). 

Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 15, 2008, 10:36:28 AM
Thanks for all the information everyone.  I never really cared too much about what people where saying, but it is still good to hear directly from people who really know St. Louis. 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Shellby117 on April 15, 2008, 10:39:47 AM

TITCR.  North St. Louis = North of Downtown.


It's funny how all you ever hear is stay out of north county...north county is a LARGE area http://www.northstlouiscounty.com/northcounty/map.shtml It's just the part right outside the city limits that is bad. Like we've already said...there's no reason to go to that area (unless to get a fix, which in that case..you probably shouldn't be in law school). The fun stuff in STL is either downtown, to the west or south. No reason to go any more north than SLU.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 15, 2008, 01:12:12 PM
I dunno. I'm a *St. Louisan* who's never actually lived in the city limits of St. Louis. I thought the crime thing was overblown too, b/c there are plenty of nice areas in town. And then I started attending SLU, and receiving the "crime watch updates" the university sends out.

Last semester, someone tried to rob the bank in the Student Center at 11:00 a.m. Yes, it was a bunch of idiots, but still. And then earlier this semester, someone got robbed when he got off the bus near the School of Public Health (By the way--the area by the Med School is a lot worse then where the Law School is), but it happened at like 5 in the afternoon. I know that people are supposed to use common sense and not go out alone late a night, but some of this stuff happens during regular business hours.

A postal worker got shot in the head yesterday afternoon right near where my friend lives--next to Tower Grove Park, which is a mile and a half down the road from the LS.

I don't want to scare anybody, but since I've been at SLU I've been glad that I live in the county, and only have to walk between Laclede Garage and the LS most days.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Shellby117 on April 15, 2008, 02:02:39 PM
I dunno. I'm a *St. Louisan* who's never actually lived in the city limits of St. Louis. I thought the crime thing was overblown too, b/c there are plenty of nice areas in town. And then I started attending SLU, and receiving the "crime watch updates" the university sends out.

Last semester, someone tried to rob the bank in the Student Center at 11:00 a.m. Yes, it was a bunch of idiots, but still. And then earlier this semester, someone got robbed when he got off the bus near the School of Public Health (By the way--the area by the Med School is a lot worse then where the Law School is), but it happened at like 5 in the afternoon. I know that people are supposed to use common sense and not go out alone late a night, but some of this stuff happens during regular business hours.

A postal worker got shot in the head yesterday afternoon right near where my friend lives--next to Tower Grove Park, which is a mile and a half down the road from the LS.

I don't want to scare anybody, but since I've been at SLU I've been glad that I live in the county, and only have to walk between Laclede Garage and the LS most days.

where crazies walk into city council meetings and kill 5 people or kidnap little boys and keep them hostage for 4 years....maybe that report was right  :o I'm just kidding. Bottom line.....s*@t happens
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on April 15, 2008, 02:17:10 PM
So what your saying is that it might not be the best idea to walk alone down Lindell towards CWE at night by yourself? 

I don't know that it's that bad. I just know that one of the amenities I'm looking for in a place to live is off-street/gated parking.

Crime's not that bad. You just have to exercise the same common sense that you would in any big city. I wouldn't think it would be the best idea to walk around from SLU to the CWE by yourself at night, but that's me. I'd take Metrolink if I could. Like someone else said, crime is relegated to specific areas of the city. North St. Louis and East St. Louis are very bad. Midtown (around SLU) is okay as long as you follow the aforementioned big city rule. Campus, however, is VERY safe - at least, that's what the undergrads I know tell me. The surrounding areas...not so much
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 15, 2008, 02:22:52 PM
I dunno. I'm a *St. Louisan* who's never actually lived in the city limits of St. Louis. I thought the crime thing was overblown too, b/c there are plenty of nice areas in town. And then I started attending SLU, and receiving the "crime watch updates" the university sends out.

Last semester, someone tried to rob the bank in the Student Center at 11:00 a.m. Yes, it was a bunch of idiots, but still. And then earlier this semester, someone got robbed when he got off the bus near the School of Public Health (By the way--the area by the Med School is a lot worse then where the Law School is), but it happened at like 5 in the afternoon. I know that people are supposed to use common sense and not go out alone late a night, but some of this stuff happens during regular business hours.

A postal worker got shot in the head yesterday afternoon right near where my friend lives--next to Tower Grove Park, which is a mile and a half down the road from the LS.

I don't want to scare anybody, but since I've been at SLU I've been glad that I live in the county, and only have to walk between Laclede Garage and the LS most days.

where crazies walk into city council meetings and kill 5 people or kidnap little boys and keep them hostage for 4 years....maybe that report was right  :o I'm just kidding. Bottom line.....s*@t happens

Interestingly, both of those incidents happened in Kirkwood, which has some serious race/class issues. It's one of my favorite parts of town and I've always wanted to live there, but after the shooting my bf was like "Um, sorry hun, not gonna happen."
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on April 15, 2008, 02:39:05 PM
For all those who either are from St. Louis or who have been there a bunch of times.  What do you really like about St. Louis and what don't you like?


I like the big city amenities with the small town feel. We're large enough that we have three major sports teams and the entertainment options that come with a city, but, as many people mentioned here, we're small enough that high school rivalries are something everyone can relate to. A lot of people in St. Louis act like this is the greatest place to live ever in the whole history of civilization, and yeah, it's nice, but I've liked other cities well enough to live there if I had to (like KC.) The real reason I want to live here is because my family and friends are all here. Why uproot somewhere else? Besides, my Blues are going to own in a few years. And the City itself is starting to make a come back, after years of draining population to the surrounding counties. There's a lot of opportunity to be had in St. Louis.

What I don't like about St. Louis...public transportation sucks more than an Oreck vaccuum cleaner. The Metrolink has more potential than people know. Just look at Chicago...the misconception about the level of crime. It's a dangerous city IN PARTS as we've said here, but that doesn't mean there aren't very, very nice places to live. It's not like you have to eat nails, barbed wire and glass three times a day to survive the bullets...also, the weather here freaking kills me sometimes. I can't tell you how appealing U. of Miami was during 8 inch snowfalls and bitterly cold winters... only for the winter to soon be followed by a scorching hot, ridiculously humid summer.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 15, 2008, 03:38:06 PM
Hopefully we won't get any 8 inch snows next year, b/c the University did NOT do a good job plowing the streets around campus...

I like St. Louis b/c the legal market doesn't feel overly competitive. It's a really big small town, but it still has 3 sports teams, and plenty of shopping malls. And the traffic is nothing compared to places like Chicago, Houston, LA.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 15, 2008, 04:59:20 PM
Is there a bus route that goes down Lindell towards Central West End?  The weather in St. Louis does seem a bit wacky and I can't really figure out why it is.  I feel like it shouldn't get as cold or get a lot of snow in the winter.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 16, 2008, 08:56:21 AM
I found out today that emails will be sent out in the next few days to sign up for an admitted student message board.  They were just waiting for seat deposits to come in.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: miljl1 on April 16, 2008, 10:50:44 AM
Thanks for keeping us updated, jlube85.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 16, 2008, 11:02:20 AM
No problem...I do what I can
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 17, 2008, 06:38:36 PM
So does anyone have anything else to say about SLU? 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: upgrade on April 17, 2008, 08:41:07 PM
Mike Kolnik from admissions is a strong representative for the school and seems like a pretty cool person.  I sat in on Professor Blum's class and I would probably say that I enjoyed his class the most of all the lectures I have attended.  He and Lambert from MU have held my favorite classes.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Shellby117 on April 18, 2008, 07:41:10 AM
So does anyone have anything else to say about SLU? 

Here is some more info for you. I ran a search on Martindale on 5 top firms in St. Louis that all pay the top salary to see how many SLU grads work there. Here’s what I found:
*this is just for their St. Louis offices*

Bryan Cave: 211 lawyers – 44 from SLU
Thompson Coburn: 300 lawyers – 38 from SLU
Husch Blackwell Sanders: 265 lawyers – 71 from SLU
   (Husch & Eppenberger and Blackwell Sanders Peper Martin merged)
Armstrong Teasdale: 193 lawyers – 69 from SLU
Lewis, Rice & Fingersh: 119 lawyers – 37 from SLU

In order of percentage coming from SLU:
Armstrong Teasdale 35%
Lewis, Rice & Fingersh 31%
Husch Blackwell Sanders 26%
Bryan Cave 20%
Thompson Coburn 12%

That’s one thing I like about the St. Louis legal market. So many lawyers went to SLU there is a great alumni connection here.

Now for the downside: these firms hire on average between 5-8 new lawyers each year. So that’s at most 40 graduating students who will get jobs at these top paying firms…and not all 40 will come from SLU. So to work at one of these, you really have to be close to the top of the class….but if they had 2 candidates with similar grades and one went to SLU and the other was from out of state, I put money on the SLU grad
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on April 18, 2008, 02:41:47 PM
So does anyone have anything else to say about SLU? 

Here is some more info for you. I ran a search on Martindale on 5 top firms in St. Louis that all pay the top salary to see how many SLU grads work there. Here’s what I found:
*this is just for their St. Louis offices*

Bryan Cave: 211 lawyers – 44 from SLU
Thompson Coburn: 300 lawyers – 38 from SLU
Husch Blackwell Sanders: 265 lawyers – 71 from SLU
   (Husch & Eppenberger and Blackwell Sanders Peper Martin merged)
Armstrong Teasdale: 193 lawyers – 69 from SLU
Lewis, Rice & Fingersh: 119 lawyers – 37 from SLU

In order of percentage coming from SLU:
Armstrong Teasdale 35%
Lewis, Rice & Fingersh 31%
Husch Blackwell Sanders 26%
Bryan Cave 20%
Thompson Coburn 12%

That’s one thing I like about the St. Louis legal market. So many lawyers went to SLU there is a great alumni connection here.

Now for the downside: these firms hire on average between 5-8 new lawyers each year. So that’s at most 40 graduating students who will get jobs at these top paying firms…and not all 40 will come from SLU. So to work at one of these, you really have to be close to the top of the class….but if they had 2 candidates with similar grades and one went to SLU and the other was from out of state, I put money on the SLU grad


Not to mention other jobs SLU grads take. I think they said at the admitted student weekend that around 48% of all practicing attorneys in STL are graduates of SLU. Now, that was a stat that comes from the school itself, but the point is, there are a ton of SLU lawyers crawling all over St. Louis. The network in the STL area is top notch.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 18, 2008, 05:16:27 PM
So does anyone have anything else to say about SLU? 

Here is some more info for you. I ran a search on Martindale on 5 top firms in St. Louis that all pay the top salary to see how many SLU grads work there. Here’s what I found:
*this is just for their St. Louis offices*

Bryan Cave: 211 lawyers – 44 from SLU
Thompson Coburn: 300 lawyers – 38 from SLU
Husch Blackwell Sanders: 265 lawyers – 71 from SLU
   (Husch & Eppenberger and Blackwell Sanders Peper Martin merged)
Armstrong Teasdale: 193 lawyers – 69 from SLU
Lewis, Rice & Fingersh: 119 lawyers – 37 from SLU

In order of percentage coming from SLU:
Armstrong Teasdale 35%
Lewis, Rice & Fingersh 31%
Husch Blackwell Sanders 26%
Bryan Cave 20%
Thompson Coburn 12%

That’s one thing I like about the St. Louis legal market. So many lawyers went to SLU there is a great alumni connection here.

Now for the downside: these firms hire on average between 5-8 new lawyers each year. So that’s at most 40 graduating students who will get jobs at these top paying firms…and not all 40 will come from SLU. So to work at one of these, you really have to be close to the top of the class….but if they had 2 candidates with similar grades and one went to SLU and the other was from out of state, I put money on the SLU grad


Interesting thing about Husch: they mainly recruit 1Ls. They hire 1Ls for the summer with the intention of hiring them back the 2nd year and making a permanent offer at the end your 2nd summer working for them. So if you do really well your first semester, and can get an offer for 1L summer....you're all set.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 18, 2008, 07:19:01 PM
Skeeball I have a question for you.  Do you have a job lined up for this summer and if you do, at what point did you start to look.  I have heard and I definitely understand that a 1L should not even think about looking for a summer job till after first semester, but I was just wondering what you have done.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 19, 2008, 06:43:27 AM
I was very fortunate to get my 1L job through OCI (my grades were kinda disappointing). I'm working in the Public Benefits department of a legal aid clinic.

They have a handful of firms that come on campus early in the semester to interview 1Ls. The AG's office and the public defender's office also does OCI. An email with the information comes out during the last week of winter break. It says who's interviewing when, and what materials you have to submit. It happens really fast--the resume drop is about a week and a half into the start of spring semester. They send you an email to let you know whether or not you got picked, and then you sign up for a time.

I think what you do during 1st semester is less important that what you do over break. 1st semester grades are SOOO important, and having decent grades is probably the best way to make finding a job easier. Over break you should work on having your resume and writing sample ready to GO so that the resume drop isn't as stressful. It's also a good time to research employers and figure out what you're going to do if you don't get a job through OCI (because most people at SLU don't)
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on April 19, 2008, 08:34:09 AM
I was very fortunate to get my 1L job through OCI (my grades were kinda disappointing). I'm working in the Public Benefits department of a legal aid clinic.

They have a handful of firms that come on campus early in the semester to interview 1Ls. The AG's office and the public defender's office also does OCI. An email with the information comes out during the last week of winter break. It says who's interviewing when, and what materials you have to submit. It happens really fast--the resume drop is about a week and a half into the start of spring semester. They send you an email to let you know whether or not you got picked, and then you sign up for a time.

I think what you do during 1st semester is less important that what you do over break. 1st semester grades are SOOO important, and having decent grades is probably the best way to make finding a job easier. Over break you should work on having your resume and writing sample ready to GO so that the resume drop isn't as stressful. It's also a good time to research employers and figure out what you're going to do if you don't get a job through OCI (because most people at SLU don't)

Thanks for all your help on these threads, Skeeball. How easy is it to get a summer job? Well, I guess it's not easy, but does pretty much everyone get a job? (Because I really don't want to go back to the BS summer job I worked in undergrad) Also, what is the pay like for these gigs - if there is any?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 19, 2008, 11:25:39 AM
I think it's hard. You might have to ask a lot of people you know if they know lawyers and get jobs that way. Or cold call the firms or mass mail resumes. Be creative--join Bar associations and do anything that's going to let you meet a lot of lawyers.

Most people don't get paying jobs their first summer. The legal aid clinic doesn't pay, but you can get some money through federal work study. Also, SLU has a great stipend program for people who take public interest jobs--it's not a lot of money, but it helps out with rent/groceries over the summer.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on April 19, 2008, 11:50:29 AM
I think it's hard. You might have to ask a lot of people you know if they know lawyers and get jobs that way. Or cold call the firms or mass mail resumes. Be creative--join Bar associations and do anything that's going to let you meet a lot of lawyers.

Most people don't get paying jobs their first summer. The legal aid clinic doesn't pay, but you can get some money through federal work study. Also, SLU has a great stipend program for people who take public interest jobs--it's not a lot of money, but it helps out with rent/groceries over the summer.

At this point, I'd rather do work with something like the legal aid clinic, even if I don't make any money just for the experience, since I'd be at home with no rent worries. I've been told that if I keep working full time for my current job that I might be able to get on with the legal department, so hopefully they'll take me on, and I won't have to worry about what I'll do during my first summer. I've been lucky enough that people at work have been forwarding my resume onto lawyers they know for a job THIS summer, I've got somewhat of a jump on the networking thing.

Wow...I guess I have to get through this summer before I start worrying about next summer!
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 19, 2008, 12:55:09 PM
I think it's hard. You might have to ask a lot of people you know if they know lawyers and get jobs that way. Or cold call the firms or mass mail resumes. Be creative--join Bar associations and do anything that's going to let you meet a lot of lawyers.

Most people don't get paying jobs their first summer. The legal aid clinic doesn't pay, but you can get some money through federal work study. Also, SLU has a great stipend program for people who take public interest jobs--it's not a lot of money, but it helps out with rent/groceries over the summer.

At this point, I'd rather do work with something like the legal aid clinic, even if I don't make any money just for the experience, since I'd be at home with no rent worries. I've been told that if I keep working full time for my current job that I might be able to get on with the legal department, so hopefully they'll take me on, and I won't have to worry about what I'll do during my first summer. I've been lucky enough that people at work have been forwarding my resume onto lawyers they know for a job THIS summer, I've got somewhat of a jump on the networking thing.

Wow...I guess I have to get through this summer before I start worrying about next summer!

No, anything you can do will help. If I hadn't gotten my job through OCI...I don't know what I'd be doing. We're down to one week of class left, and there are people who still don't know what they're doing this summer. It's not the end of the world, but if you can find your job before the final crunch, it'll be a big help.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: lalalagirl007 on April 19, 2008, 02:58:21 PM
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Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: RageLaw on April 21, 2008, 04:56:39 AM
Any of you fellow ragers going to be using a Mac laptop?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on April 21, 2008, 07:42:06 AM
Yeah, I've got a MacBook Pro.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: mmhome on April 21, 2008, 08:10:07 AM
I am a May 2007 grad of SLU Law and lifelong resident of the St. Louis area.  I will be happy to meet someone and give them tours and help with apt hunting and stuff.  Or anything else you need. 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 21, 2008, 08:57:07 AM
Lobstah,

What are your opinions on the Macbook Pro.  How is the mac service at SLU and have you had any problems with using a Mac for law school.  When I visited SLU it seemed as though the only major problem was printing. 

I am a May 2007 grad of SLU Law and lifelong resident of the St. Louis area.  I will be happy to meet someone and give them tours and help with apt hunting and stuff.  Or anything else you need. 

I will be heading back to St. Louis from May 6th- May 9th.  Right now I will be checking out the apartments right across from SLU and also a few in CWE.  Do you know anyone who lives in CWE?  Where did you live while attending SLU?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on April 21, 2008, 09:05:25 AM
 :D Haha I'm a 0L so I have no clue.

I've always been pretty technologically inclined, so I'm anticipating being able to figure out any problems without any help from the school just as I did in UG when my school was still trying to get a handle on the influx of Macs.

Printing can sometimes be a pain in the ass if the school uses Novell or something similar. The easiest way around it is either get your own printer or email it to yourself (or a friend) who is on a network computer and print from there.

Since I don't know what the network situation is at SLU I can't be too sure. If you're worried about a Mac causing problems though, don't be. Computer stuff can always be figured out, if not by you then by someone else whose job it is to help you.  ;)
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 21, 2008, 09:16:48 AM
I am not too worried about printing because they did say that they are trying to get printing capabilities up by the end of the summer.  I am leaning towards a Mac because they do give Mac support and there is a program that mac users can use to take finals without having windows.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: mmhome on April 21, 2008, 10:56:14 AM

I am a May 2007 grad of SLU Law and lifelong resident of the St. Louis area.  I will be happy to meet someone and give them tours and help with apt hunting and stuff.  Or anything else you need. 

I will be heading back to St. Louis from May 6th- May 9th.  Right now I will be checking out the apartments right across from SLU and also a few in CWE.  Do you know anyone who lives in CWE?  Where did you live while attending SLU?
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Lobstah,


I lived in my hometown in Illinois.  It was only a 15-20 minute commute.  I know lots of my classmates lived in CWE and I think it is a great choice.  I would stick to the south side of Lindell (and East of Euclid) if you go that way. But, pretty much everything in the CWE is good.  My friends that did not have cars stayed in the Lindell Towers or the Coronado just across the street.  Gosh how I envied them when I was fighting traffic to get to an 8 am class.  I heard the Coronado is expensive and that the Lindell Towers can be noisy.  But, my best friend lived in the Lindell Towers all 3 years and he loved it.  Another place to consider would be the downtown loft district.  Rents can be very competitve there and it is a pretty neat area.  Just stay as close to Washington Ave  and 12th St. as possible.  I think there is a bus that runs down Washington Ave which is just a couple of blocks North of SLU LAW.  But that bus line and the area where you would get on near SLU is pretty dicey after dark.   

Are those bozos still working on wireless printing?  They had it pretty much up and running when I left so I thought it was all OK.  Otherwise, you can just put your file on a jump drive and then print off that on one of the plentiful law library computers (or e-mail it to yourself).  I wouldn't worry about printing too much. I had a pc but many students had Macs and I never heard of any problems using a Mac. 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 21, 2008, 11:28:34 AM

I am a May 2007 grad of SLU Law and lifelong resident of the St. Louis area.  I will be happy to meet someone and give them tours and help with apt hunting and stuff.  Or anything else you need. 

I will be heading back to St. Louis from May 6th- May 9th.  Right now I will be checking out the apartments right across from SLU and also a few in CWE.  Do you know anyone who lives in CWE?  Where did you live while attending SLU?
Lobstah,


I lived in my hometown in Illinois.  It was only a 15-20 minute commute.  I know lots of my classmates lived in CWE and I think it is a great choice.  I would stick to the south side of Lindell (and East of Euclid) if you go that way. But, pretty much everything in the CWE is good.  My friends that did not have cars stayed in the Lindell Towers or the Coronado just across the street.  Gosh how I envied them when I was fighting traffic to get to an 8 am class.  I heard the Coronado is expensive and that the Lindell Towers can be noisy.  But, my best friend lived in the Lindell Towers all 3 years and he loved it.  Another place to consider would be the downtown loft district.  Rents can be very competitve there and it is a pretty neat area.  Just stay as close to Washington Ave  and 12th St. as possible.  I think there is a bus that runs down Washington Ave which is just a couple of blocks North of SLU LAW.  But that bus line and the area where you would get on near SLU is pretty dicey after dark.   

Are those bozos still working on wireless printing?  They had it pretty much up and running when I left so I thought it was all OK.  Otherwise, you can just put your file on a jump drive and then print off that on one of the plentiful law library computers (or e-mail it to yourself).  I wouldn't worry about printing too much. I had a pc but many students had Macs and I never heard of any problems using a Mac. 


Is there any reason why you suggest the south side of Lindell and East of Euclid?  Do you mean closer to SLU then Forest Park in regards to Euclid?  I won't have a car so I don't want to move any further than CWE.  I am pretty sure there is a bus route that goes down Lindell to CWE.  When it is late or I don't feel like walking, I would take the bus.  Do you remember any of the buildings that your friends lived in.  I will be looking at Covent Gardens, Ellsworth, Monticello & Fairmont and the Hawthorne apartments.  Any of these ring a bell?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: miljl1 on April 21, 2008, 11:53:56 AM
I'll also be bringing my MacBook Pro. Anyone know if there is any reason to purchase Vista/XP? Just curious. Looks like I'll be apartment hunting sometime between May 15-20. I think I've found a place, but we'll see if it is nice enough...just as long as it is bigger than my current studio.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 21, 2008, 12:11:51 PM
When I spoke to a tech person at SLU he actually mentioned that they discourage students from taking exams on windows when you have a mac.  They have a program that Mac users use.  In this regard I guess you would not need vista. 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 21, 2008, 01:29:40 PM
I went Mac right before law school and haven't had any problems. The Exam software is compatible with Macs, so I haven't needed Bootcamp. I haven't had problems with printing, but I haven't really tried either. My computer prints fine to the Lexis and Westlaw printers, but I haven't tried regular printing.

My only Mac-related problem is that the power outlet is kinda bulky. Which is great, b/c you can wrap the chord around it. The problem is the outlets are all in front of the tables in class, and people always bump the power chord when they walk by. One time someone bumped it so hard it bent one of the prongs on the power cable. I had to take it to the Mac people to have it fixed.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on April 21, 2008, 02:08:12 PM
I went Mac right before law school and haven't had any problems. The Exam software is compatible with Macs, so I haven't needed Bootcamp. I haven't had problems with printing, but I haven't really tried either. My computer prints fine to the Lexis and Westlaw printers, but I haven't tried regular printing.

My only Mac-related problem is that the power outlet is kinda bulky. Which is great, b/c you can wrap the chord around it. The problem is the outlets are all in front of the tables in class, and people always bump the power chord when they walk by. One time someone bumped it so hard it bent one of the prongs on the power cable. I had to take it to the Mac people to have it fixed.

Good to know my Mac won't get shunned at SLU...with regard to the outlets, I was thinking about bringing a power outlet so ten other people can plug in at once without fighting over the outlet. I found a free one at work to use.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 22, 2008, 08:24:32 AM
Quote from: mmhome on Yesterday at 12:10:07 PM
I am a May 2007 grad of SLU Law and lifelong resident of the St. Louis area.  I will be happy to meet someone and give them tours and help with apt hunting and stuff.  Or anything else you need.

I will be heading back to St. Louis from May 6th- May 9th.  Right now I will be checking out the apartments right across from SLU and also a few in CWE.  Do you know anyone who lives in CWE?  Where did you live while attending SLU?
Quote from: jlube85 on Yesterday at 12:57:07 PM
Lobstah,


I lived in my hometown in Illinois.  It was only a 15-20 minute commute.  I know lots of my classmates lived in CWE and I think it is a great choice.  I would stick to the south side of Lindell (and East of Euclid) if you go that way. But, pretty much everything in the CWE is good.  My friends that did not have cars stayed in the Lindell Towers or the Coronado just across the street.  Gosh how I envied them when I was fighting traffic to get to an 8 am class.  I heard the Coronado is expensive and that the Lindell Towers can be noisy.  But, my best friend lived in the Lindell Towers all 3 years and he loved it.  Another place to consider would be the downtown loft district.  Rents can be very competitve there and it is a pretty neat area.  Just stay as close to Washington Ave  and 12th St. as possible.  I think there is a bus that runs down Washington Ave which is just a couple of blocks North of SLU LAW.  But that bus line and the area where you would get on near SLU is pretty dicey after dark.   

Are those bozos still working on wireless printing?  They had it pretty much up and running when I left so I thought it was all OK.  Otherwise, you can just put your file on a jump drive and then print off that on one of the plentiful law library computers (or e-mail it to yourself).  I wouldn't worry about printing too much. I had a pc but many students had Macs and I never heard of any problems using a Mac.


Is there any reason why you suggest the south side of Lindell and East of Euclid?  Do you mean closer to SLU then Forest Park in regards to Euclid?  I won't have a car so I don't want to move any further than CWE.  I am pretty sure there is a bus route that goes down Lindell to CWE.  When it is late or I don't feel like walking, I would take the bus.  Do you remember any of the buildings that your friends lived in.  I will be looking at Covent Gardens, Ellsworth, Monticello & Fairmont and the Hawthorne apartments.  Any of these ring a bell?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on April 23, 2008, 01:50:40 PM
Did you guys join the Yahoo group? If so, did you find it obnoxiously disjointed and far inferior to LSD?  ;)
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 23, 2008, 02:02:20 PM
I guarantee there will be 2 Facebook groups. One called SLU Law 2008 because that's what year it is right now, another called SLU Law 2011, because that's what year you graduate.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on April 23, 2008, 02:04:09 PM
I guarantee there will be 2 Facebook groups. One called SLU Law 2008 because that's what year it is right now, another called SLU Law 2011, because that's what year you graduate.

Haha are there feuds between the two? I'll need to do some serious thinking as to which I will want to join. I'm leaning 2011 since it's more accurate but if the cool kids are in 2008 I might be swayed.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 23, 2008, 02:32:42 PM
I guarantee there will be 2 Facebook groups. One called SLU Law 2008 because that's what year it is right now, another called SLU Law 2011, because that's what year you graduate.

Haha are there feuds between the two? I'll need to do some serious thinking as to which I will want to join. I'm leaning 2011 since it's more accurate but if the cool kids are in 2008 I might be swayed.

I joined the group that had the class year in it, but up until right before orientation I was like "why are there only 10 people in this group...?" The other one had like 75 people in it.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on April 23, 2008, 02:40:51 PM
I guarantee there will be 2 Facebook groups. One called SLU Law 2008 because that's what year it is right now, another called SLU Law 2011, because that's what year you graduate.

Haha are there feuds between the two? I'll need to do some serious thinking as to which I will want to join. I'm leaning 2011 since it's more accurate but if the cool kids are in 2008 I might be swayed.

I joined the group that had the class year in it, but up until right before orientation I was like "why are there only 10 people in this group...?" The other one had like 75 people in it.

Now, someone from LSD is going to start a SLU law facebook group in 5...4...3...2...1...

I'm addicted to the internet, but geez, I would have never thought to look for a SLU law facebook group. I needed a Yahoo email to join the Yahoo group, which was way more effort then I wanted to put into it at the time...maybe sometime later this week.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 23, 2008, 04:15:02 PM
I would have to go with the SLU class of 2011 group
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on April 25, 2008, 10:52:11 AM
Is anyone moving a few weeks before school starts? My lease is up in July so I'll be moving to StL August 1st.

I've been working around 60 hours a week for a year so I'm not sure what I'm going to do with 2 weeks until classes and nothing to do. I realize they give some reading to do in the summer but it's not going to keep me busy for THAT long.

Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 25, 2008, 12:04:50 PM
I probably won't be moving to St. Louis till around August 11th or so.  How much reading do you think we will have before class?  I hope its not too much since my birthday is August 16th and I would like to enjoy it before 1L hell starts.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on April 25, 2008, 12:08:51 PM
Not tons, but enough to prepare for first day of classes. We should get it with plenty of time, not like 2 days before classes start.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Shellby117 on April 25, 2008, 12:26:25 PM
I'm not sure what I'm going to do with 2 weeks until classes and nothing to do.




That's what alcohol is for  ;)
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on April 25, 2008, 12:33:46 PM

That's what alcohol is for  ;)

Oh that's a given. But there's only a certain amount of drinking you can do by yourself before your friends get jealous and start making all these accusations about 'responsible living' and 'health'.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 25, 2008, 12:43:08 PM
Lobstah,

Where do you plan on living again?  If I were you I would do absolutely nothing for two weeks, in addition to the drinking.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on April 25, 2008, 12:45:33 PM
I suppose I could figure out some ways to kill time. Not sure on where I'm living yet, will be looking at apartments when I'm there for Radiohead in a few weeks and then again in June.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Shellby117 on April 25, 2008, 12:54:44 PM
But there's only a certain amount of drinking you can do by yourself.

Go to the bar by campus, Humphrey's, and meet other law schoolers.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 25, 2008, 01:51:53 PM
The reading for orientation will be minimal. You'll be able to do the reading for the first day over the weekend, no problem.

I would spend the 2 weeks laying out by the pool at Shaw Park. You'll be busy setting up your apartment and stuff. Watch Oprah, sleep in, stay out late on a week night.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: t L on April 25, 2008, 02:17:51 PM
I would spend the 2 weeks laying out by the pool at Shaw Park.

Nice.  Definitely do this.  Also, go to Forest Park.  The zoo is wonderful.  The art museum.  The city museum.  Definitely catch a baseball game at Busch.  These are probably things you won't have to time to enjoy when school starts. St. Louis is very nice during the summer.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on April 26, 2008, 11:57:16 AM
I would spend the 2 weeks laying out by the pool at Shaw Park.

Nice.  Definitely do this.  Also, go to Forest Park.  The zoo is wonderful.  The art museum.  The city museum.  Definitely catch a baseball game at Busch.  These are probably things you won't have to time to enjoy when school starts. St. Louis is very nice during the summer.

With the exception of the earlier suggestion to watch Oprah, I wholeheartedly agree with all this advice. I did two weeks of absolutely nothing after undergrad before I started working, and it was glorious and refreshing. To add to the list, a brewery tour is a St. Louis mainstay. If you're relying on public transportation for school, I'd say to hit up the Moolah theatre which is right across the street from the law school near the Coronado. Every Friday they have a midnight showing of an old movie on big leather couches and drink specials.

What's this summer reading about? This whole time it never occurred to me that we'd have summer reading. I assume it's reading a couple cases or something? Sort of like the Admitted student class?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 26, 2008, 01:26:13 PM
So how is the Billiken basketball team looking for next year?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on April 26, 2008, 01:32:52 PM
So how is the Billiken basketball team looking for next year?

Um...They got a new coach and built a new arena, so...?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 26, 2008, 01:38:15 PM
They weren't too bad last year, expect for that game they scored 20 points (awful).
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on April 28, 2008, 09:15:48 AM
They weren't too bad last year, expect for that game they scored 20 points (awful).

An all-time NCAA low. Yikes.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on April 28, 2008, 02:02:13 PM
They weren't too bad last year, expect for that game they scored 20 points (awful).

An all-time NCAA low. Yikes.

But hey, at least we get to look forward to feuds between Rick Majerus and the Archbishop!
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on April 28, 2008, 08:45:45 PM
Strange coaching selection for a Jesuit institution. 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on May 01, 2008, 02:09:32 PM
Interesting tidbit in the Post Dispatch. I wonder how this affects the health law program. Aren't there a couple JD/MPH candidates?

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/education/story/E4E68F25DACA0F2B8625743C00119E45?OpenDocument
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on May 01, 2008, 03:01:48 PM
It sucks. It's not really that surprising though. For a couple weeks last semester they were talking about WUSTL potentially buying the SPH, and I wasn't sure if I was going to be able to enroll in the JD/MHA program.

I'm curious what courses the profs that are leaving taught. I chose SLU b/c the MHA has a business focus. If it's all mainstream public health people that left and all the economists are still around, I won't mind so much.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: 54826 on May 04, 2008, 03:20:39 PM
It sucks. It's not really that surprising though. For a couple weeks last semester they were talking about WUSTL potentially buying the SPH, and I wasn't sure if I was going to be able to enroll in the JD/MHA program.

I'm curious what courses the profs that are leaving taught. I chose SLU b/c the MHA has a business focus. If it's all mainstream public health people that left and all the economists are still around, I won't mind so much.

That sucks. SLU develops a top program on the merits, and WUSTL poaches the program's faculty.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on May 04, 2008, 04:50:28 PM
It sucks. It's not really that surprising though. For a couple weeks last semester they were talking about WUSTL potentially buying the SPH, and I wasn't sure if I was going to be able to enroll in the JD/MHA program.

I'm curious what courses the profs that are leaving taught. I chose SLU b/c the MHA has a business focus. If it's all mainstream public health people that left and all the economists are still around, I won't mind so much.

That sucks. SLU develops a top program on the merits, and WUSTL poaches the program's faculty.

Yeah, both schools tried to downplay the whole "poaching" thing in the article, but that's pretty much what happened, intentional or not. Even still, I think SLU's health law program will be strong, just maybe not #1 now. St. Louis is regarded as a leader in the health care industry in general with all our hospitals, two nationally ranked Med schools in Wash U. and SLU, and strong programs like the health law program at SLU.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on May 04, 2008, 06:08:15 PM
I know that WUSTL's really prestigious and all, but SLU's MHA program has been around for like, 60 years. It's bad that they're losing faculty, but I don't think they'll lose the respect that goes along with having one of the oldest programs in the country. It's not like they don't know what they're doing...
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on May 07, 2008, 03:54:42 PM
Who got their SLU LAW hat in the mail? Oh yeah! Maybe I'll wear it to work.  :D
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on May 07, 2008, 04:00:26 PM
Who got their SLU LAW hat in the mail? Oh yeah! Maybe I'll wear it to work.  :D

Yeah, that was pretty freaking sweet. I have to admit though, I'm not much of a hat guy, so I put it in the back windshield of my car in lieu of the traditional window decal.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on May 07, 2008, 04:05:46 PM
Who got their SLU LAW hat in the mail? Oh yeah! Maybe I'll wear it to work.  :D

They gave you guys hats this year??

I signed up to be on the orientation committee. You guys get one more day of orientation than we had. Maybe some of you will be in my mentor group
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on May 07, 2008, 04:26:34 PM
Hell yes we got hats. I'm much more of a hat guy when my hair is shorter, which it likely will be once I start my LS budget.

I hope I'm in your group Skeeball.  :)

What's the "Optional Orientation" on 8/11 (as opposed to the "Mandatory Orientation" on 8/13)?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on May 07, 2008, 05:11:56 PM
Hell yes we got hats. I'm much more of a hat guy when my hair is shorter, which it likely will be once I start my LS budget.

I hope I'm in your group Skeeball.  :)

What's the "Optional Orientation" on 8/11 (as opposed to the "Mandatory Orientation" on 8/13)?

I think that's just when you can go into school and get your laptop configured and buy your books. You can do all the stuff they're offering earlier in the summer if you want (at least that's how it was last year). I think there's a meet & greet Tuesday night the 12th and then you have all-day orientation Wednesday-Friday. I have no idea what they're planning for you guys during those days, but I should find out soon.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on May 07, 2008, 06:55:04 PM
Who got their SLU LAW hat in the mail? Oh yeah! Maybe I'll wear it to work.  :D

They gave you guys hats this year??

I signed up to be on the orientation committee. You guys get one more day of orientation than we had. Maybe some of you will be in my mentor group

And pens with the admission packet. Beat that.

I'm looking forward to Orientation now, especially considering the rate that SLU is dishing out sweet freebees.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on May 07, 2008, 08:28:44 PM
Do you have to send in your final deposit before getting all this stuff?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: RageLaw on May 07, 2008, 10:09:26 PM
Hell yes we got hats. I'm much more of a hat guy when my hair is shorter, which it likely will be once I start my LS budget.

I hope I'm in your group Skeeball.  :)

What's the "Optional Orientation" on 8/11 (as opposed to the "Mandatory Orientation" on 8/13)?

Doesn't "LS budget" = longer hair?

Hi, I'm SLU class of '11, also. 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on May 08, 2008, 06:58:51 AM
LS budget means I find a guy in the class who can give me a halfway decent buzz every couple of weeks. Just like UG.

And welcome. Looking forward to meeting everyone. I'll actually be in town next week for a few days to see Radiohead and hopefully check out a few apartments.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Shellby117 on May 08, 2008, 07:17:35 AM
Do you have to send in your final deposit before getting all this stuff?

nope, I haven't sent in my final deposit yet and I got the hat along with a too long of a list of suggested books to read
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: Lobstah! on May 08, 2008, 07:31:39 AM
Do you have to send in your final deposit before getting all this stuff?

nope, I haven't sent in my final deposit yet and I got the hat along with a too long of a list of suggested books to read

I don't know that I'll be reading any of those- maybe one or two. But I think it's just a list for people who are taking the summer off and want something to do.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: RageLaw on May 08, 2008, 11:56:08 AM
Radiohead will be a great show.  This will be my 4th time seeing them, with Lollapalooza being my 5th. 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on May 08, 2008, 02:14:02 PM
Do you have to send in your final deposit before getting all this stuff?

What, you didn't get the free iPod with the SLU Billiken plastered on the front? Or the laptop bag with "SLU Law" embroidered on the side?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on May 08, 2008, 04:10:03 PM
When does orientation start?  I thought it began August 14th?

I didn't get any of that stuff Jammer and I don't know what I should do.  It's not fair haha.  Those gifts would be pretty sweet though.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on May 08, 2008, 05:02:33 PM
When does orientation start?  I thought it began August 14th?

I didn't get any of that stuff Jammer and I don't know what I should do.  It's not fair haha.  Those gifts would be pretty sweet though.


You didn't get that packet with the reading materials and important dates before Orientation yet? Because that's what the hat came with.

Maybe it's in the mail. I don't know what it is, but the mail from SLU seems to take a while to get to me, and I live ten minutes away. Even the pony express would have been faster than some of the mail I get from them. It seems like their letters are dated two weeks before I receive them in the mail, asking me to do something that's only a couple days away. And if I recall correctly, correspondence during the undergrad application process seemed to have that same turnaround...
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on May 08, 2008, 06:21:50 PM
Yea, I have not gotten anything as of yet, but I am sure it is on its way.  I am actually currently in St. Louis.  I just paid a security deposit on an apartment in CWE, which I am really happy about. 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on May 12, 2008, 11:54:23 AM
Does anyone know of any good used furniture places on St. Louis?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on May 12, 2008, 02:10:05 PM
Does anyone know of any good used furniture places on St. Louis?

There's a Salvation Army on Forest Park not far from SLU's campus, although I haven't been there in a while and I don't know if they have any good stuff. The rest of the places I can think of are further away from campus. I highly recommend Value Village...but that's in Shrewsbury about 20 minutes away from SLU. I can give you directions from the SLU campus if you really want to know. Not sure if any of them deliver or not, so you might need to find a truck or something.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on May 12, 2008, 03:27:55 PM
Is it the Value Village on Watson Rd. or the one on Kenrick Plz?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on May 12, 2008, 03:52:18 PM
Is it the Value Village on Watson Rd. or the one on Kenrick Plz?

Kenrick Plaza is the one I'm talking about. There are better times of the month to go because they pick up new items, but I don't remember when that is. I think the other one on Watson may actually be a Value City. The distinction between the two is that Value Village is used stuff and Value City sells mediocre, off-brand stuff that's new. Value City Furniture is on the way to these two places on Watson and they have new furniture that's cheap. You might have to put it together yourself, though depending on what you buy there.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on May 12, 2008, 05:26:05 PM
Thanks for the information Jammer.  I will probably check them both out, along with the salvation army and goodwill on Forest. 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on May 12, 2008, 06:03:23 PM
Seriously. When is this town gonna get an Ikea?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on May 12, 2008, 07:40:15 PM
Seriously. When is this town gonna get an Ikea?

That would make things a lot easier
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on May 15, 2008, 11:52:32 AM
What system is used by Mac owners for taking notes in law school?  Is there one that someone recommends more than another?  Am I even making sense with this question?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on May 16, 2008, 08:04:37 AM
Most Mac users I know took notes with Microsoft Word. The Mac version is the closest you can get to One Note for a Mac. I was taking notes in Google Docs b/c SLU's email is through Gmail now. I wouldn't recommend it b/c it doesn't work that well with Safari & Firefox.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on May 16, 2008, 05:24:36 PM
Most Mac users I know took notes with Microsoft Word. The Mac version is the closest you can get to One Note for a Mac. I was taking notes in Google Docs b/c SLU's email is through Gmail now. I wouldn't recommend it b/c it doesn't work that well with Safari & Firefox.

Are you talking about Omnioutliner? 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on May 16, 2008, 06:34:21 PM
Most Mac users I know took notes with Microsoft Word. The Mac version is the closest you can get to One Note for a Mac. I was taking notes in Google Docs b/c SLU's email is through Gmail now. I wouldn't recommend it b/c it doesn't work that well with Safari & Firefox.

Are you talking about Omnioutliner? 

No, not for note-taking. I only know one person who used that program for taking notes in class. I personally don't like it b/c you can ONLY write in outline form. But I did use it for my outlines.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on May 16, 2008, 07:20:46 PM
Is the Mac version also called one note?
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: skeeball on May 17, 2008, 11:53:42 AM
Is the Mac version also called one note?

No, it's not. It's not the same program at all. Microsoft hasn't made a Mac version yet (although I do kind of wonder if they will soon if what they say in the new Mac commercial is true–that Macs are getting so popular on college campuses...). The Mac version of Word has a lot of the features offered in the One Note program (Or so I've heard, I've never used One Note and I don't have a recent version of Word).
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on May 18, 2008, 09:49:44 AM
Is the Mac version also called one note?

No, it's not. It's not the same program at all. Microsoft hasn't made a Mac version yet (although I do kind of wonder if they will soon if what they say in the new Mac commercial is true–that Macs are getting so popular on college campuses...). The Mac version of Word has a lot of the features offered in the One Note program (Or so I've heard, I've never used One Note and I don't have a recent version of Word).

What's all this about note-taking programs? I was just going to type in Word and/or write in a notepad and then type an outline that evening after class.
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jlube85 on May 18, 2008, 05:52:40 PM
Is the Mac version also called one note?

What's all this about note-taking programs? I was just going to type in Word and/or write in a notepad and then type an outline that evening after class.

I have just heard good things about one note from friends, so I was just curious about if there was a mac equivalent. 
Title: Re: SLU Class of 2011
Post by: jammer on May 18, 2008, 07:04:06 PM
Is the Mac version also called one note?

What's all this about note-taking programs? I was just going to type in Word and/or write in a notepad and then type an outline that evening after class.

I have just heard good things about one note from friends, so I was just curious about if there was a mac equivalent. 

You guys had me worried that my Microsoft Word method was about as obsolete as a VCR.

I have a mac, too, and a lot of these posters are right. The Microsoft Word for Mac is pretty functional. I don't know if you know this little trick, but if you want Word for Mac to act like this fabled One Note program, try this...When you open Word and that window pops up asking what project you want (can also be found under File, then project gallery), go to Word notebook. Play around with it, and it's pretty intuitive. If you hit tab after hitting enter it gives you a subhead and everything. It sounds like it does a lot of the things one note does. Someone showed it to me during a 19th century philosophy class taught by a Jesuit more confusing than Hegel, and it was wonderful. I wished I would have known Word did this 4 years ago.

It sounds like One Note is already integrated into Mac's Word. I had never even heard of one note until you guys started talking about it.