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Title: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on February 18, 2008, 08:11:31 AM
Anybody else seriously considering attending GW in the fall? I'm still waiting on quite a few decisions but if nothing else goes my way this is where I'll be in the fall. Seems like GW perspectives are rare this cycle...
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: missladytwine on February 19, 2008, 11:44:33 AM
I'm definitely interested, provided I get some money.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: jeffreydane on February 19, 2008, 12:18:07 PM
 i'm with lady twine.  However, out of the 20-28 schools, it appears to be a "contenda."  I'm strongly considering it.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: stewie griffin on February 19, 2008, 12:28:54 PM
Yeah, I'm still waiting to hear from 7 of my 10 schools, but I get a really good feeling about the place.  As miss lady twine said, however, money is a factor.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: pulvillus on February 20, 2008, 07:05:01 AM
^ditto, money is the issue with GW. Given the cost of living in D.C. and the fact that I will have to finance every dime of my LS cost myself, I would need some help from GW. Additionally, some of my other prospects are at least equally attractive, especially since D.C. isn't my number one job market.

Now if GW clearly offers more money than my other prospects, I'd be hard pressed not to go.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: t L on February 20, 2008, 07:33:02 AM
tag.

I hope they send out the scholarship offers soon.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on February 20, 2008, 10:36:49 AM
tag.

I hope they send out the scholarship offers soon.

Yeah I haven't heard of anyone getting money offers yet not that I thik I'll get any merit based money but a girl can hope...

I am very concerned about the cost of living in DC. It seems with the COA there is not much space to have any extra money. God forbid there is an emergency of some sort. It seems like all your loan check is going to have to go to rent.

I def know if I do go to GW I am not taking a car. It's not worth the expense IMO. And I really don't want a roomate but I know if I live near the school I won't be able to afford to not have one. All that said I love the area and I love their administration. They have been extremely nice and helpful during this whole process.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on February 21, 2008, 08:29:00 AM
Just got a generic updates email from the dean that says they are sending the first scholarships out via U.S. Mail tomorrow. Fingers are crossed! What sort of number do you think they will be offering scholarships to?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on February 21, 2008, 08:33:40 AM
Just got a generic updates email from the dean that says they are sending the first scholarships out via U.S. Mail tomorrow. Fingers are crossed! What sort of number do you think they will be offering scholarships to?



Well since I didn't get the e-mail I'm assuming I won't be getting one :(
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: t L on February 21, 2008, 08:39:03 AM
Well since I didn't get the e-mail I'm assuming I won't be getting one :(

That's weird.  It was a very generic e-mail, and the financial part didn't just speak of merit aid but need aid too.

I'm kinda pissed that they are sending the offers by mail.  Do they know how neurotic we are? How much we hate waiting?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on February 21, 2008, 08:44:23 AM
I finally got the email. Did anyone else notice that they are only offering travel stipends for people who choose to attend...

And tL this is only the first batch of scholarships so it could be that you may have to wait even longer...


Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on February 21, 2008, 08:59:58 AM
I don't think the email means anything. It's just a list of updates. Allow me to copy and paste...

Nicole,

Good morning.  Just want to remind you of a several things --

First - Admitted Student Portal
If you have not logged on to the GW Law Admitted Student Portal, I urge you to do so by going to:  http://www.law.gwu.edu/admit. 

There is a great deal of information you may access through this portal that will help you learn more about our law school, as well as upcoming events for admitted students.  There also are several discussion boards in which you may wish to participate (connect with some of your future classmates, ask questions of current students, look for roommates, etc.).  If you have any trouble logging on, please let me know.

Second - Admitted Student Receptions Across the Country
We will be hosting admitted student receptions in a number of cities throughout the country during the next six weeks.  These events will provide you the opportunity to visit with GW Law administrators, faculty members, current students and alumni (Dean Lawrence will attend as many of these events as he possibly can).  You may bring one or more guests to these admitted studdent receptions. 

Specific details about the admitted student receptions (dates, locations and times) are posted on the admitted student portal and you may RSVP on the portal.  Please check the list of events (you may come to as many of them as you wish) and submit your RSVP's online as soon as possible.  Please note that the first of these events will be next week -- in Chicago, IL, on February 26th; and in Columbus, OH, on February 28th. 

Third - Preview Events at GW Law
Preview Events at GW Law will be held during the first week of April.  Preview Evening will be on Wednesday evening, April 2nd, from 3:30 to 9:15 p.m., and is designed for students who are considering joining us in our part-time evening program.  Preview Day will be on Friday, April 4th, from 8:30 a.m. to 7:00 p.m., and is designed for admitted students who are considering joining us in our full-time day program.   

We will provide reimbursement of up to $150.00 of the transportation costs you incur to come to either of our preview events if you ultimately matriculate at GW Law (details about our reimbursement policy is posted on the admitted student portal). 

We will post detailed schedules for Preview Evening and Preview Day on the admitted student portal within the next week.  We also ask that you RSVP for Preview Evening or Preview Day online through the admitted student portal as soon as possible.  Please note that, due to the large number of admitted students who typically attend our preview events, we are not able to accommodate guests either at Preview Evening or at Preview Day.

Fourth - Merit Scholarship Awards/Financial Aid
We are sending out the first round of merit scholarship awards tomorrow (notificiation will be by letter sent in the US Mail).  As I am sure you can appreciate, our merit funds are limited and the award process is ongoing (if individuals offered merit scholarships decline the offers, we will continue to make awards until we have spent all available merit funds).

At GW Law, in addition to merit scholarship funds, we have a large fund of need-based aid available to our students.  All students who qualify for "need" will be awarded a need-based grant that may range from $3,000 to $19,000 per year.  Students apply for need-based aid each year -- thus, as your need situation changes during your time in law school (e.g., as you take on more student loan debt), the amount of your need-based grant likewise may change.  Please be sure that you submit your FAFSA and PROFILE as soon as possible if you wish to be considered for need-based aid.  You can review detailed information about financial aid at GW Law by going to: 

    http://www.law.gwu.edu/Resources/Hidden+Content/Financial+Aid/default.htm

Questions?
As always, please let us know if you have questions or if we can be of assistance as you choose which law school you will attend.  The members of or admissions office staff (listed below) are here to help in any way that we can.

  Anne Richard - Associate Dean - arichard@law.gwu.edu
  JoSie Shelby-Wilson - Director of Admissions - JoSie@law.gwu.edu
  Danielle Porcelli - Director of Recruiting - dporcelli@law.gwu.edu
  Matthew Dillard - Admissions Counselor - mdillard@law.gwu.edu
   
Thank you.  Have a good weekend.

    Anne
--  Anne M. Richard
    Associate Dean
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on February 21, 2008, 09:00:54 AM
Ooops.. you already got it. Well, just for everyone's info then..  ;)
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on February 21, 2008, 09:18:35 AM
Ooops.. you already got it. Well, just for everyone's info then..  ;)

Yeah but thnx anyway.

Are any of you going to the preview day? I was thinking about going but I really would prefer to visit the school on a normal day. I may just do both. My SO is from DC and I may just have him chauffer me around one day.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: t L on February 21, 2008, 09:23:53 AM

And tL this is only the first batch of scholarships so it could be that you may have to wait even longer...


You are making me sad.  :'(

The only way that I can justify going to GW is with a full-ride.  So, I hope I'm in the first batch.

I probably won't go to a preview day, but since UVA is giving me $400 to visit, I'll just fly into DC and spend an extra day there to visit GW.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on February 21, 2008, 09:34:05 AM


You are making me sad.  :'(


Aw...I'm sorry :-[

You do have good numbers so hopefully you will get something. I hear that GW is a little stingy with their merit based money but I guess we'll see. But seriously UVA is a great school. Did you get any money from them?

Edit: Nvm I just looked at your sig. You are still considering GW because...??
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: t L on February 21, 2008, 09:58:38 AM
Edit: Nvm I just looked at your sig. You are still considering GW because...??

Not a huge fan of small cities/towns, especially Southern ones that have a reputation of being conservative.  I much rather be in DC.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: pulvillus on February 21, 2008, 10:16:30 AM
Since we're already on GW comunication, didn't you guys think it was a nice touch to put a handwritten note on the acceptance letter? If I wasn't so cynical it would have made me feel special.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on February 21, 2008, 10:17:50 AM
Since we're already on GW comunication, didn't you guys think it was a nice touch to put a handwritten note on the acceptance letter? If I wasn't so cynical it would have made me feel special.

It was. It def made me feel like they cared about what I actually wrote in my application.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on February 21, 2008, 10:20:03 AM
Edit: Nvm I just looked at your sig. You are still considering GW because...??

Not a huge fan of small cities/towns, especially Southern ones that have a reputation of being conservative.  I much rather be in DC.

I see. I'm from the south so I guess I don't have a problem with the area. FYI they have had quite a few race problems on campus last year.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: stewie griffin on February 21, 2008, 10:51:43 AM
Since we're already on GW comunication, didn't you guys think it was a nice touch to put a handwritten note on the acceptance letter? If I wasn't so cynical it would have made me feel special.

It was. It def made me feel like they cared about what I actually wrote in my application.

I agree.  Even though I know everyone gets a note like that, it's still pretty wonderful of them to take the time to do that when they have so many applications (and even quite a few acceptances) to sift through.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: R.P. McMurphy on March 08, 2008, 10:10:00 PM
anybody already receive their need-based money info from GW? I'm curious how much they give. My EFC is a big fat zero so I'm hoping they'll be generous.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on March 10, 2008, 10:08:33 AM
anybody already receive their need-based money info from GW? I'm curious how much they give. My EFC is a big fat zero so I'm hoping they'll be generous.

I haven't heard anything yet. My EFC was also 0 and I hope they give me a decent amount of aid.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on March 11, 2008, 01:39:18 PM
Does anyone know a time frame for how long it usually takes to get an awards letter? I know that they say they can't guarantee that you will get one before seat deposits if everything wasn't in by March 1. But if it was, does that mean that we still might not hear anything until just before seat deposits are due? Im kind of hoping to see it soon so that if they are offering a good amount of money I don't have to travel accross the country to see another school. I'd hate to dish out the cash to do that only to find out later that I didn't have to.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: sydneybristow on March 11, 2008, 01:49:05 PM
I called last week to confirm that my PROFILE and FAFSA had been received, and was told a) that they had been, and b) that my file was "complete" and should be in review early this week, with a decision made by late this week. GW's FinAid office is VERY nice, so I'd definitely call them up and ask what your status is. If your financial stuff is currently in review, I'm sure they'll let you know and give you an estimate of when you'll hear from them/get your award letter. I believe this is only the second week that GW is reviewing files for need-based aid.

I'm also hoping to hear soon (either way, need-based would be awesome, but if not, then I'll have a full realistic angle on whether or not I want to pay full sticker price for GW)...
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on March 11, 2008, 01:53:43 PM

I'm also hoping to hear soon (either way, need-based would be awesome, but if not, then I'll have a full realistic angle on whether or not I want to pay full sticker price for GW)...

That is exactly how I feel. I like GW but I don't think I like it enough to have to take out $120,000 in student loans. I already have almost $40,000 from undergrad and want to add as little to it as possible.

I'm def gonna call and ask about my file tomorrow.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on March 11, 2008, 01:58:49 PM
Where would you go if not GW?

At this point Vandy bc they gave me a pretty big scholarship or Texas. But I'm actually still waiting on quite a few decisions so anything can change.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: PillowPants on March 11, 2008, 08:20:42 PM
soooo has anyone recieved their financial aid package yet?

seems like its about that time, I got that email too and it seems like somethin shoudl have been here by now
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: obamavshilary on March 11, 2008, 08:22:49 PM
GW = Georgetown Waitlist

Just kidding.

I'm IN at GULC as of today. See you guys around DC.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: obamavshilary on March 11, 2008, 08:26:03 PM
Where would you go if not GW?

At this point Vandy bc they gave me a pretty big scholarship or Texas. But I'm actually still waiting on quite a few decisions so anything can change.

Go with Vandy or Texas. At least they dominate their own regions. The only reason to go to GW is if you get a full ride. The cost of living here in DC is insane. TN and TX are a lot cheaper.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on March 12, 2008, 07:55:02 AM
Where would you go if not GW?

At this point Vandy bc they gave me a pretty big scholarship or Texas. But I'm actually still waiting on quite a few decisions so anything can change.

Go with Vandy or Texas. At least they dominate their own regions. The only reason to go to GW is if you get a full ride. The cost of living here in DC is insane. TN and TX are a lot cheaper.

This is true but I know I want to do government work in DC so passing up going to school in the area is not something I'm going to do easily. But at the end of the day I def don't think GW is worth full price when I have 2 other schools that are just as good if not better offering me money. I guess that's why I'm waiting for my financial aid. If they give me a good amount of need based aid I'll still seriously consider going but if not then I will not be there in the fall. I cannot justify taking out over $120,000 in loans when Vandy is basically paying half my tuition.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: sydneybristow on March 12, 2008, 07:58:12 AM
Where would you go if not GW?

At this point Vandy bc they gave me a pretty big scholarship or Texas. But I'm actually still waiting on quite a few decisions so anything can change.

Go with Vandy or Texas. At least they dominate their own regions. The only reason to go to GW is if you get a full ride. The cost of living here in DC is insane. TN and TX are a lot cheaper.

This is true but I know I want to do government work in DC so passing up going to school in the area is not something I'm going to do easily. But at the end of the day I def don't think GW is worth full price when I have 2 other schools that are just as good if not better offering me money. I guess that's why I'm waiting for my financial aid. If they give me a good amount of need based aid I'll still seriously consider going but if not then I will not be there in the fall. I cannot justify taking out over $120,000 in loans when Vandy is basically paying half my tuition.

I'm in the same/a similar boat. Perhaps I'm impatient, but I just want to know about need-based $$ (or lack thereof) from GW ASAP... :-\
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: jnb983 on March 12, 2008, 08:08:38 AM
Where would you go if not GW?

At this point Vandy bc they gave me a pretty big scholarship or Texas. But I'm actually still waiting on quite a few decisions so anything can change.

Go with Vandy or Texas. At least they dominate their own regions. The only reason to go to GW is if you get a full ride. The cost of living here in DC is insane. TN and TX are a lot cheaper.

This is true but I know I want to do government work in DC so passing up going to school in the area is not something I'm going to do easily. But at the end of the day I def don't think GW is worth full price when I have 2 other schools that are just as good if not better offering me money. I guess that's why I'm waiting for my financial aid. If they give me a good amount of need based aid I'll still seriously consider going but if not then I will not be there in the fall. I cannot justify taking out over $120,000 in loans when Vandy is basically paying half my tuition.

I have the same problem.  I really really like DC, but I doubt I'll be going to school there without money.  Judging by the stats of people who've been given offers so far from GW, the money is going to those with very high GPAs.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on March 12, 2008, 08:26:03 AM
I've also noticed that most of the money is going to people with higher GPAs. I haven't really noticed anyone getting anything other than full tuition and the $60,000 and first year housing. Are these the only amounts GW offers?

I really want to be in DC as well. For one it's probably where I'll end up practicing (or nearby) and it's also closer to my home compared to the other schools im considering. Also I've been in a long distance relationship for almost 3 yrs and DC would be a lot closer while all of the other schools would put more space between us then we already have. But I told my bf I am not going to go into a ton of debt so we can be near each other. And I could prob still get into the DC market from Vandy. It's so hard making decisions....
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: stoney732 on March 12, 2008, 11:51:14 AM
Yeah it really is about time they start giving out more merit aid and need-based grants.  We don't have forever, and no one in our situation is going to pay their seat deposit if they haven't given SOMETHING out.  I see no reason to go to GW for full sticker if 1/3 my tuition is paid by a higher-ranked school.  If I wanted to pay $40+K/yr in tuition and the exorbitant DC CoL, I would've stayed on GULC's WL.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: sydneybristow on March 14, 2008, 10:15:52 AM
Any word on need-based grant notification...?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: t L on March 14, 2008, 10:21:07 AM
Any word on need-based grant notification...?

Someone on TLS received their package.  All loans. 
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: sydneybristow on March 14, 2008, 11:09:49 AM
Any word on need-based grant notification...?

Someone on TLS received their package.  All loans. 

Thanks! I'm really hoping to hear soon, even if it is all loans - would make things more "real" in terms of decision-making.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on March 16, 2008, 11:00:41 AM
I am contemplating calling to check up on the status of my need-based aid. Don't wanna be a pain but it really is time to start deciding! Thoughts on this idea?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on March 16, 2008, 08:05:39 PM
I am contemplating calling to check up on the status of my need-based aid. Don't wanna be a pain but it really is time to start deciding! Thoughts on this idea?

Send an e-mail to your fin aid contact (they are assigned by last name). That's what I did and she gave me a time frame of when to expect my awards letter. Now I'm just waiting to see if her time frame was accurate...
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: The Nicker on March 17, 2008, 10:40:51 AM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news on these boards, but my EFC was 0 and I received my need-based aid on Saturday: $63,800 a year, all in loans. Max Stafford's and the rest GradPlus. I've got no merit-based either, so I'm looking at about $200,000 coming out if I want GW, and this is from somebody who wants to do public interest right away (envisioning denying grandkids an ice cream cone because I gotta make that loan payment).

Perhaps you saw it on my LSN, but there are probably more like me . . .
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on March 17, 2008, 11:53:13 AM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news on these boards, but my EFC was 0 and I received my need-based aid on Saturday: $63,800 a year, all in loans. Max Stafford's and the rest GradPlus. I've got no merit-based either, so I'm looking at about $200,000 coming out if I want GW, and this is from somebody who wants to do public interest right away (envisioning denying grandkids an ice cream cone because I gotta make that loan payment).

Perhaps you saw it on my LSN, but there are probably more like me . . .

That sucks. How destitute do you have to be to qualify for need based aid? This is making me nervous. So far all I have heard of people receiving is loans.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: yoshimi on March 17, 2008, 03:17:22 PM
Just FYI I got my merit-based scholarship letter today. It's 20000/yr with 1st yr free housing, sounds pretty attractive to me...plus I don't have any other decent choice so I c myself pretty likely end up in GWU...
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: jnb983 on March 17, 2008, 09:58:58 PM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news on these boards, but my EFC was 0 and I received my need-based aid on Saturday: $63,800 a year, all in loans. Max Stafford's and the rest GradPlus. I've got no merit-based either, so I'm looking at about $200,000 coming out if I want GW, and this is from somebody who wants to do public interest right away (envisioning denying grandkids an ice cream cone because I gotta make that loan payment).

Perhaps you saw it on my LSN, but there are probably more like me . . .

Wow.  I thought my package was the pits until I saw this.  Although, I am a little confused: my total budget, before grants and loans, was only $62,800, while Nicker's loans totaled 1K higher.  Do they figure different costs for different people?


That sucks. How destitute do you have to be to qualify for need based aid? This is making me nervous. So far all I have heard of people receiving is loans.

My FAFSA EFC was not $0 and I still got a need grant.  It may depend more on your family's overall finances; my expected parent contribution for GW was 0.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on March 18, 2008, 10:59:50 AM
My FAFSA EFC was 0 and I also said that I don't expect any contribution from my family because unfortunately I do not have anyone to help me pay for school. I'm just really nervous to take out a ton of loans.

Has anyone been having any luck with housing in DC? Even though I'm not sure where I'm going yet I have started looking for apartments online. It seems like a cheaper option would be to live in the Arlington area and commute. Is this area generally safe? I'm thinking of living closer to the Rosslyn and Courthouse metros.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: The Nicker on March 18, 2008, 01:03:31 PM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news on these boards, but my EFC was 0 and I received my need-based aid on Saturday: $63,800 a year, all in loans. Max Stafford's and the rest GradPlus. I've got no merit-based either, so I'm looking at about $200,000 coming out if I want GW, and this is from somebody who wants to do public interest right away (envisioning denying grandkids an ice cream cone because I gotta make that loan payment).

Perhaps you saw it on my LSN, but there are probably more like me . . .

Wow.  I thought my package was the pits until I saw this.  Although, I am a little confused: my total budget, before grants and loans, was only $62,800, while Nicker's loans totaled 1K higher.  Do they figure different costs for different people?


That sucks. How destitute do you have to be to qualify for need based aid? This is making me nervous. So far all I have heard of people receiving is loans.

My FAFSA EFC was not $0 and I still got a need grant.  It may depend more on your family's overall finances; my expected parent contribution for GW was 0.

JNB is right. Although my parents are not helping me with law school tuition they have enough money to conceivably do this if they wanted. GW is definitely holding this against me, consider this a good thing as you await your need package.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: sydneybristow on March 19, 2008, 12:43:55 PM
I just got my financial aid award...or, more accurately, my parents got it. why? b/c gw sent my award letter to my parents' address. despite the fact that i NEVER used my parents address on ANY of my GW application materials.

i e-mailed the financial aid office today to check on the status, and was told that the letter was mailed "over a week ago." problem is, i live in DC. i knew i should have already received it. i wrote back, and was then told it was sent to another address - my parents address. why? b/c i went to gw undergrad (but graduated 2 years ago), and apparently "the system" effed up. oh nice. that was their response.

i've been waiting for this letter, and my parents got it two days ago - and didn't tell me. yeah i'm pissed at my parents for that, but also pissed at gw for letting it happen. my parents had/have no role in my law school admissions process. this is all me. they had no right to see that or any other admissions-related mailing for that matter. i would have had the letter last week had gw sent it directly to me.

and i would have known last week that gw = all loans. i'm slowly getting over being upset - gw was my first choice, where i really wanted to be. but now that i know the situation, combined with some amazing scholarship opportunities at schools that apparently really like me (and for which i'm very grateful), i can't justify going to gw at full price. oh well! at least now i know.  :-\ i'm so over all of this right now.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: sydneybristow on March 19, 2008, 12:53:47 PM
Just go to GULC. Rent a cool crib on U Street, and enjoy the savory fries at Ben's Chili Bowl :)

For some reason, reading this just brightened my day - thanks  :)
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on March 19, 2008, 02:41:38 PM
Sorry sydney! But you have a ton of other great options!

What do you guys think about the email the sent out today saying that they may not give more merit scholarships til after the April 15 seat deposit deadline?? That sounds like it could really have a negative impact on prospectives' decisions..
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: jnb983 on March 19, 2008, 04:42:56 PM
Sorry sydney! But you have a ton of other great options!

What do you guys think about the email the sent out today saying that they may not give more merit scholarships til after the April 15 seat deposit deadline?? That sounds like it could really have a negative impact on prospectives' decisions..

This seems to be a common thing.  The email from AR was my second such email of the day.  I wonder if the FinAid offices are tired of "show me the money" phone calls

Since many people are guilty of holding scholarships at more than one school, the rest of us have to wait until they make up their minds.  Not that they don't have the right to hold on as long as they need to, but I think some people hold on to money from schools they know deep down they will never attend.  Which sucks for those who are waiting.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on March 19, 2008, 07:47:13 PM
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This seems to be a common thing.  The email from AR was my second such email of the day.  I wonder if the FinAid offices are tired of "show me the money" phone calls

That is understandable I guess. It just makes it seriously difficult to make an educated decision...

.. and the moral of this story is withdraw people!
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on March 19, 2008, 09:01:08 PM
It makes a lot of sense that they are waiting. They'll prob just try to pass out the money they already offered to other people who withdraw. But like I've said before, I've only seen people getting large scholarship offers from GW. Maybe they can give smaller scholarships to the rest of us once they pass them up...I hope. But doesn't it suck that the deposit for GW is $500...
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: t L on March 20, 2008, 10:05:23 AM
Has anyone contacted Dean Richards about increasing their merit aid offer?  GW would be a great option for me, but I can't justify going there over a full ride at WUSTL or $60,000 at UVa?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: jnb983 on March 20, 2008, 10:22:28 AM
It makes a lot of sense that they are waiting. They'll prob just try to pass out the money they already offered to other people who withdraw. But like I've said before, I've only seen people getting large scholarship offers from GW. Maybe they can give smaller scholarships to the rest of us once they pass them up...I hope. But doesn't it suck that the deposit for GW is $500...

Yeah pretty damn expensive first deposit.  Is this the highest any school requires?

No, Northwestern's is $750.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on March 20, 2008, 11:19:00 AM
Looks like I'll probably be making multiple deposits. Ick.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on March 20, 2008, 11:31:45 AM
Well right now, GW is my first choice, I have scholarship offers from other schools (W&M and GMU) that would make the COA roughly half of GW without any aid. Since I probably won't know about scholarship for GW until after April 15, I am thinking it may be best to make a deposit there and also at one of my scholarship options so I can evaluate GW based on the full picture. Bad logic?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: sydneybristow on March 20, 2008, 11:43:24 AM
Well right now, GW is my first choice, I have scholarship offers from other schools (W&M and GMU) that would make the COA roughly half of GW without any aid. Since I probably won't know about scholarship for GW until after April 15, I am thinking it may be best to make a deposit there and also at one of my scholarship options so I can evaluate GW based on the full picture. Bad logic?

I will potentially be in this same boat. But, I'm worried about being penalized by one or both schools by seat-depositing at both (there's another thread on here about multiple deposits and LSAC telling the schools which applicants are doing this). Nicole-are you going to W&M's ASW at the end of March?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on March 20, 2008, 11:48:59 AM
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I will potentially be in this same boat. But, I'm worried about being penalized by one or both schools by seat-depositing at both (there's another thread on here about multiple deposits and LSAC telling the schools which applicants are doing this). Nicole-are you going to W&M's ASW at the end of March?

I've seen that thread.. makes me slightly nervous, but GW may put us in a bind that forces us to make multiple deposits to make an informed decision. I definitely did not consider doing that before I got that email from Dean Richard. I was very excited about being decided by April 15!

And yup, I am definitely going to the ASW! Staying overnight with a 2L on Friday. How bout you?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: sydneybristow on March 20, 2008, 11:51:01 AM
Well right now, GW is my first choice, I have scholarship offers from other schools (W&M and GMU) that would make the COA roughly half of GW without any aid. Since I probably won't know about scholarship for GW until after April 15, I am thinking it may be best to make a deposit there and also at one of my scholarship options so I can evaluate GW based on the full picture. Bad logic?

I will potentially be in this same boat. But, I'm worried about being penalized by one or both schools by seat-depositing at both (there's another thread on here about multiple deposits and LSAC telling the schools which applicants are doing this). Nicole-are you going to W&M's ASW at the end of March?

Hold up, you're only supposed to place a deposit at one? what the frick. now i really have to choose b/w GW and WashU.

Not necessarily, but someone on the "Multipled Deposits" thread said that an admissions dean told him his offer would be revoked if the school found out he seat-deposited at multiple schools. i don't know the specifics, though. but if LSAC is doing this, it might be something the schools are seriously considering. i think it's different (ie acceptable) if you seat-deposit at ONE school b/c you're waitlisted at another. but 2 seat deposits...idk. but i would hate to withdraw from GW if there's a chance i might still get a merit scholarship...although $500 is a lot to put down on a "what if" chance. dunno if maybe it might be worth it to call the schools one is considering, explain the situation, and get their opinion?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on March 20, 2008, 11:53:19 AM
I think calling the schools is a really good idea. Are you going to the GW Admitted Student Reception in DC next week?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: sydneybristow on March 20, 2008, 11:54:01 AM
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I will potentially be in this same boat. But, I'm worried about being penalized by one or both schools by seat-depositing at both (there's another thread on here about multiple deposits and LSAC telling the schools which applicants are doing this). Nicole-are you going to W&M's ASW at the end of March?

I've seen that thread.. makes me slightly nervous, but GW may put us in a bind that forces us to make multiple deposits to make an informed decision. I definitely did not consider doing that before I got that email from Dean Richard. I was very excited about being decided by April 15!

And yup, I am definitely going to the ASW! Staying overnight with a 2L on Friday. How bout you?

I will definitely be there too! I'm signed up to stay w/a 1L Friday night, but I'll be in W'burg Thurs-Sat nights and booked a hotel (the Hospitality House), so I'm not sure it makes sense to cart myself back and forth just to stay w/a student one night. I'll have to figure that out soon! But I'm really looking forward to ASW - I visited W&M in Jan. and really liked it, but campus was pretty quiet, so I'm excited to see the law campus "in action" and meet everyone, etc. See you there!
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: sydneybristow on March 20, 2008, 11:54:58 AM
I think calling the schools is a really good idea. Are you going to the GW Admitted Student Reception in DC next week?

The one on the 25th? Yup, I should def be there, as long as I get out of work on time! Are you?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on March 20, 2008, 11:57:18 AM
Probably. I have class but I'll most likely leave early.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: sydneybristow on March 20, 2008, 12:01:10 PM
Well right now, GW is my first choice, I have scholarship offers from other schools (W&M and GMU) that would make the COA roughly half of GW without any aid. Since I probably won't know about scholarship for GW until after April 15, I am thinking it may be best to make a deposit there and also at one of my scholarship options so I can evaluate GW based on the full picture. Bad logic?

I will potentially be in this same boat. But, I'm worried about being penalized by one or both schools by seat-depositing at both (there's another thread on here about multiple deposits and LSAC telling the schools which applicants are doing this). Nicole-are you going to W&M's ASW at the end of March?

Hold up, you're only supposed to place a deposit at one? what the frick. now i really have to choose b/w GW and WashU.

Not necessarily, but someone on the "Multipled Deposits" thread said that an admissions dean told him his offer would be revoked if the school found out he seat-deposited at multiple schools. i don't know the specifics, though. but if LSAC is doing this, it might be something the schools are seriously considering. i think it's different (ie acceptable) if you seat-deposit at ONE school b/c you're waitlisted at another. but 2 seat deposits...idk. but i would hate to withdraw from GW if there's a chance i might still get a merit scholarship...although $500 is a lot to put down on a "what if" chance. dunno if maybe it might be worth it to call the schools one is considering, explain the situation, and get their opinion?

Great. Time to commence my due diligence...

I know, ugh! I find it frustrating that the e-mail from Dean Richard said they might not be able to do more scholarship-wise until post-April 15 (although I do understand why they have to "hold" at this point)...b/c IMO the $500 deposit is a lot on the chance that one might get some $$ post-April 15. So it makes sense for people with a scholly offer at another school to put down 2 deposits, so they have the scholly backup in case GW doesn't come through. But if GW (or any other school) is going to get pissy b/c of multiple-depositing...then maybe it's not worth it. This is such a game.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on March 20, 2008, 12:09:25 PM
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know, ugh! I find it frustrating that the e-mail from Dean Richard said they might not be able to do more scholarship-wise until post-April 15 (although I do understand why they have to "hold" at this point)...b/c IMO the $500 deposit is a lot on the chance that one might get some $$ post-April 15. So it makes sense for people with a scholly offer at another school to put down 2 deposits, so they have the scholly backup in case GW doesn't come through. But if GW (or any other school) is going to get pissy b/c of multiple-depositing...then maybe it's not worth it. This is such a game.

Ugh.. I know.. and not one that I want to play anymore. I am really at the point where I just want to know what I'm doing and prepare mentally for it.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: sydneybristow on March 21, 2008, 04:25:46 PM
I know this is a moot point, and that I most likely will not be going to GW, but I just got my financial aid award (which GW so kindly mailed to me after "accidentally" mailing the original to my parents). A calculated Parent Contribution of $33k? I'd love to know how they came up with it. $33k is a little less than 1/2 of my parents' combined income. Seriously? Ironically enough, $33k is also just about the amount my parents still owe on the PLUS loan they took to help finance my undergrad...at GW! And my younger brother's still got to go to college, and my parents are alreay in their 60s! Go figure  :o

Its taken me a while...but I'm finally realizing that it ain't worth it.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: sydneybristow on March 21, 2008, 04:36:59 PM
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So you're going to GULC?? Hopefully they take me off the PT waitlist this summer. See you there! Perhaps...fingers x'd

Still up in the air pending a few imminently approaching school visits/ASWs...I'd say I'm mentally at 50% GULC, 50% W&L/Emory/W&M. But I really have grown to love GULC...

And I will definitely be keeping my fingers crossed for you at the GULC PT waitlist!  ;)
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: J.A.A.N. on March 21, 2008, 06:11:55 PM
FWIW...I went to an ASR reception this week in ATL and left with a pretty favorable impression of GW. I talked to about 8-10 alumni extensively and Dean Schooner (Academic Affairs), as well as other administrators. It was a great networking opp. and a great chance to see a sample of where GW alumni end up (pretty impressive for the majority). They all seemed pretty happy with their current careers. One woman in particular said she had chosen GW($) over GULC and was happy with her decision.

Again, I'm just sharing FWIW  ;)
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: R.P. McMurphy on March 21, 2008, 06:20:16 PM
FWIW...I went to an ASR reception this week in ATL and left with a pretty favorable impression of GW. I talked to about 8-10 alumni extensively and Dean Schooner (Academic Affairs), as well as other administrators. It was a great networking opp. and a great chance to see a sample of where GW alumni end up (pretty impressive for the majority). They all seemed pretty happy with their current careers. One woman in particular said she had chosen GW($) over GULC and was happy with her decision.

Again, I'm just sharing FWIW  ;)

I agree with this. I was very impressed by the reception in my town. Dean Lawrence came and spoke and he was definitely someone I'd love to have running my law school. I just couldn't stomach the cost of it though. W&L will be much cheaper and provide fairly similar employment prospects (here come the trolls...). Lifestyle will be much different and better in my opinion. But to each their own of course.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: sydneybristow on March 21, 2008, 06:25:36 PM
FWIW...I went to an ASR reception this week in ATL and left with a pretty favorable impression of GW. I talked to about 8-10 alumni extensively and Dean Schooner (Academic Affairs), as well as other administrators. It was a great networking opp. and a great chance to see a sample of where GW alumni end up (pretty impressive for the majority). They all seemed pretty happy with their current careers. One woman in particular said she had chosen GW($) over GULC and was happy with her decision.

Again, I'm just sharing FWIW  ;)

I agree with this. I was very impressed by the reception in my town. Dean Lawrence came and spoke and he was definitely someone I'd love to have running my law school. I just couldn't stomach the cost of it though. W&L will be much cheaper and provide fairly similar employment prospects (here come the trolls...). Lifestyle will be much different and better in my opinion. But to each their own of course.

Dean Lawrence is incredibly nice and down to earth. I worked at GW Law's CDO when I was an undergrad, and I recently stopped by to talk to the career counselors I used to work for, and he happened to be around. They all told him about my GW acceptance, and he just started chatting away and telling me all about what GW has to offer and why I should come. Obviously that's his part of his job, but I was still kind of blown away that the Dean of the law school was, you know, right there, chatting away, like no big deal.

Also...I have the same thoughts entirely about W&L in terms of relative costs and similar job prospects. I'm looking to decide on the "lifestyle" point when I visit in a few days.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: J.A.A.N. on March 21, 2008, 06:26:05 PM
Yeah, if I don't choose GW (b/c I don't think I am going to trump that) it will boil down to one thing...cost of attendance. or by some extremely long shot I get into one of my ultra-reach schools.

Chris, I wouldn't mind a small town lifestyle at all during this whole law school endeavor. I already don't have time to get bored...just wait until 1L. I understand what you mean.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: R.P. McMurphy on March 21, 2008, 07:11:50 PM
Yeah, if I don't choose GW (b/c I don't think I am going to trump that) it will boil down to one thing...cost of attendance. or by some extremely long shot I get into one of my ultra-reach schools.

Chris, I wouldn't mind a small town lifestyle at all during this whole law school endeavor. I already don't have time to get bored...just wait until 1L. I understand what you mean.

For me W&L offers three advantages. One, I'd start PT at GW, so I'd have to deal with transferring to FT and that might screw up my 1L summer. Two and three are all about housing. Rent will be way cheaper at W&L (at least half, possibly less) and because I have a family I'd have to live out in the burbs of DC. I'd have a 1/2 hour commute both ways. I think living in Lexington will be much less stressful. Plus, my UG is huge (~30K) and I'd really like to go to a small, intimate school like W&L.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: J.A.A.N. on March 22, 2008, 02:18:19 PM
Yeah, if I don't choose GW (b/c I don't think I am going to trump that) it will boil down to one thing...cost of attendance. or by some extremely long shot I get into one of my ultra-reach schools.

Chris, I wouldn't mind a small town lifestyle at all during this whole law school endeavor. I already don't have time to get bored...just wait until 1L. I understand what you mean.

For me W&L offers three advantages. One, I'd start PT at GW, so I'd have to deal with transferring to FT and that might screw up my 1L summer. Two and three are all about housing. Rent will be way cheaper at W&L (at least half, possibly less) and because I have a family I'd have to live out in the burbs of DC. I'd have a 1/2 hour commute both ways. I think living in Lexington will be much less stressful. Plus, my UG is huge (~30K) and I'd really like to go to a small, intimate school like W&L.

OMG, Chris. Assuming you are a male, you are like my male co-app. LOL. I have the same situations (GW p/t, family- husband and 2 kids, UG debt- and grad debt for my Masters degree, the small intimate part is why I am considering Wake Forest- with money). I also really want to hear from UNC b/c living in NC would be most ideal after GA. I'm from DC and the cost of living/day care, etc. is still way too fresh in my mind   :(
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: R.P. McMurphy on March 22, 2008, 02:23:52 PM
Yeah, if I don't choose GW (b/c I don't think I am going to trump that) it will boil down to one thing...cost of attendance. or by some extremely long shot I get into one of my ultra-reach schools.

Chris, I wouldn't mind a small town lifestyle at all during this whole law school endeavor. I already don't have time to get bored...just wait until 1L. I understand what you mean.

For me W&L offers three advantages. One, I'd start PT at GW, so I'd have to deal with transferring to FT and that might screw up my 1L summer. Two and three are all about housing. Rent will be way cheaper at W&L (at least half, possibly less) and because I have a family I'd have to live out in the burbs of DC. I'd have a 1/2 hour commute both ways. I think living in Lexington will be much less stressful. Plus, my UG is huge (~30K) and I'd really like to go to a small, intimate school like W&L.

OMG, Chris. Assuming you are a male, you are like my male co-app. LOL. I have the same situations (GW p/t, family- husband and 2 kids, UG debt- and grad debt for my Masters degree, the small intimate part is why I am considering Wake Forest- with money). I also really want to hear from UNC b/c living in NC would be most ideal after GA. I'm from DC and the cost of living/day care, etc. is still way too fresh in my mind   :(

ha, well close. i'm straight out of UG. other than that we're pretty close though.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: loowho on March 24, 2008, 02:12:09 PM
I'm trying to decide between GULC and GWU (and a few others, but they are irrelevant to this DC school comparison). I have 60k to GULC and 90k + 1 yr housing (total 103k) to GW. What should I do? I'm swayed by the larger scholarship amount to GW, but am wondering if the prestige factor for things like clerkships is reason enough to choose GULC (or one of the other T14 schools I'm looking at).

Furthermore, GULC wants to know by April 1st! Any help? PLEASE!!!!
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on March 24, 2008, 02:45:21 PM
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I'm trying to decide between GULC and GWU (and a few others, but they are irrelevant to this DC school comparison). I have 60k to GULC and 90k + 1 yr housing (total 103k) to GW. What should I do? I'm swayed by the larger scholarship amount to GW, but am wondering if the prestige factor for things like clerkships is reason enough to choose GULC (or one of the other T14 schools I'm looking at).

Furthermore, GULC wants to know by April 1st! Any help? PLEASE!!!!

First off, congrats!! Those are amazing opportunities. I think if you are interest in clerkships and things like that though, Georgetown is your better option. You will more than make up the gap in debt would your increased post-grad opportunities in my opinion.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on March 25, 2008, 08:02:01 AM
I finally got my awards letter back from GW. They mailed it to the wrong address. Anyway I did get a substantial need based grant so looks like I still won't make up my mind. Hopfeully visitng the 2 schools I'm considering will make my decision a little easier.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: stewie griffin on March 25, 2008, 08:03:22 AM
Is anyone going to be at the reception in Philly this evening?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: dekocards on March 25, 2008, 08:22:12 AM
Is anyone going to be at the reception in Philly this evening?

No, but I'm going to the one in NYC tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on March 25, 2008, 08:42:35 AM
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I finally got my awards letter back from GW. They mailed it to the wrong address. Anyway I did get a substantial need based grant so looks like I still won't make up my mind. Hopfeully visitng the 2 schools I'm considering will make my decision a little easier.

I didn't expect to get anything and I did, so I am in the same boat. Where else are you considering?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on March 25, 2008, 11:11:13 AM
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I finally got my awards letter back from GW. They mailed it to the wrong address. Anyway I did get a substantial need based grant so looks like I still won't make up my mind. Hopfeully visitng the 2 schools I'm considering will make my decision a little easier.

I didn't expect to get anything and I did, so I am in the same boat. Where else are you considering?

Right now my main two choices are GW and Vandy. The grant I got from GW along with the scholarship from Vandy makes the price of the two almost the same for me. I thought money was going to be my determining factor. I'm hoping that when I visit I'll just like one more than the other but knowing me I'll love them both.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: stewie griffin on March 25, 2008, 07:12:17 PM
I went to the admitted students reception tonight in Philly and had a really great time.  There were lots of alumni there, actually, which was nice, and the other potential students seemed like cool people, too.  I definitely recommend going to one if y'all haven't already.

/GW trolling
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on March 26, 2008, 10:13:09 AM
Are you guys planning to live in NOVA or DC proper? If the former, PM me, as I know of decent housing options...

I know I'm an idiot but what is NOVA? At this point I'm considering living in Arlington near the Rossylyn, Court House, Clarendon or Falls Church metros. I'm trying to keep my rent between $900-$1000. If I could find a roomate I could prob try to look for a place in NW.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on March 26, 2008, 10:14:09 AM
Are you guys planning to live in NOVA or DC proper? If the former, PM me, as I know of decent housing options...

So have you basically decided that you are def going to be at GW in the fall?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on March 26, 2008, 10:18:59 AM
Are you guys planning to live in NOVA or DC proper? If the former, PM me, as I know of decent housing options...

So have you basically decided that you are def going to be at GW in the fall?


No, but am preparing to hedge in the advent that my waitlists aren't kind to me...def planning to go to GW over WashU, though the 75k at the latter was very, very tempting...

I have a couple of waitlists that I'm waiting out too. There are worse things in the world than going to GW though. I wish they had sent us a list of where their graduates actually work as opposed to who interviews GW students. Lots of firms interview at certain schools with no intention of actually hiring anyone. A list of where their graduates actually work would have been more useful to me.

Would you be paying full price at GW? BTW I'm interested to know of any places you know of in northern Virginia. You can PM them to me whenever you get a chance.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on March 26, 2008, 10:20:18 AM
Why WashU over GW? And I'd be interested in your NOVA housing options too..
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: R.P. McMurphy on March 26, 2008, 11:05:05 AM
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I finally got my awards letter back from GW. They mailed it to the wrong address. Anyway I did get a substantial need based grant so looks like I still won't make up my mind. Hopfeully visitng the 2 schools I'm considering will make my decision a little easier.

I didn't expect to get anything and I did, so I am in the same boat. Where else are you considering?

Right now my main two choices are GW and Vandy. The grant I got from GW along with the scholarship from Vandy makes the price of the two almost the same for me. I thought money was going to be my determining factor. I'm hoping that when I visit I'll just like one more than the other but knowing me I'll love them both.

Go to Vandy...end of discussion.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: PillowPants on March 26, 2008, 06:49:20 PM
G Dubs cracks the top 20!

pop the bubbly
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: stewie griffin on March 27, 2008, 07:24:36 AM
I know a few people in this thread have been to the receptions in the cities.  Is there food served?  It's right at dinner time...

Yup.  And drinks.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: stewie griffin on March 27, 2008, 07:41:24 AM
I know a few people in this thread have been to the receptions in the cities.  Is there food served?  It's right at dinner time...

Yup.  And drinks.

Is it like dinner or like Hore-douvers?  Specifically - were there crab cakes? lol

I mean do I need to eat dinner or can I fill up here?

Ha.  It was hors d'oeuvres.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: PillowPants on March 27, 2008, 07:49:38 AM
The one in columbus was a full three course meal, but if I remember correctly I think the Dean said that it varies depending on the size of the group.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: deedeeleigh on March 27, 2008, 10:00:57 AM
What's Dean Lawrence like? He seems really cool

He is. He's always so genuinely happy to be doing what he does. And he gets to know all the students pretty well. Cool guy.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: J.A.A.N. on March 28, 2008, 08:49:44 AM
The one in columbus was a full three course meal, but if I remember correctly I think the Dean said that it varies depending on the size of the group.

There was barely any food last night... free drinks though!

Oh and Dean Lawrence wasn't there - disappointing.

he wasn't at the one in Atlanta either (disappointing) but there were plenty food and drinks! ;D
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on March 31, 2008, 12:17:13 PM
Anyone coming to Preview Day on Friday?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on March 31, 2008, 09:20:47 PM
Anyone coming to Preview Day on Friday?

Unfortunately no but I will be there that Saturday...a day too late.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: J.A.A.N. on April 02, 2008, 11:25:40 AM
If anyone goes to preview evening today, let me know how it went.

Thx
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: loowho on April 02, 2008, 11:55:26 AM
FYI. I just withdrew (with a Pres. Merit Scholarship offer). Hopefully the available scholarship funds will help some of you! Good luck!
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on April 02, 2008, 01:19:53 PM
Don't you wish you could specify who got your scholarship/spot at the school? LSD could become such a happy place of sharing and tenderness.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on April 03, 2008, 11:17:23 AM
Haha.. we should propose this to law schools.

On a different note.. what are you wearing to ASD? I was just going to go with nice jeans, flats, and a sweater... I've seen other threads that say that is fine. Agreed?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: nicole1220 on April 03, 2008, 11:50:49 AM
Excellent! Should be a good day.  :)

And yes, blossoms are still out. The festival was last weekend but I think there will still be things tomorrow as well. If you wanna avoid crowds, I like them better at night anyway!
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: washdc23 on April 04, 2008, 07:36:54 AM
You guys think GW is worth ~$70k more than W&L for the DC market?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: R.P. McMurphy on April 04, 2008, 08:17:11 AM
You guys think GW is worth ~$70k more than W&L for the DC market?

I don't. Then again I'm going to W&L, so maybe I'm just a troll. W&L will be about 35K less for me and I decided to go there.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: prognosisnegative on April 05, 2008, 07:06:09 AM
tag (just thinking about it)
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: stewie griffin on April 07, 2008, 10:26:42 AM
I enjoyed visiting GW, but in the end, I am still in all likelihood not going to attend.  The main reason is cost.  I was able to stop by the financial aid office at GW and get my estimated award (need-based).  While it was nice to get some grant aid, I would still have to take on roughly $150,000 in debt to attend GW.  I'm not wild about DC as a city (r้sum้-building opportunities aside), I would rather not have to contemplate Biglaw just to pay off debt, and I am 99% certain that I want to practice here in Philly.  For those reasons, the full ride Temple is offering is just too good to pass up.

That said, GW is clearly a great school that provides tremendous opportunities for its smart (and very enthusiastic) students.  The quality of life at GW Law is obviously pretty high.  The facilities are also very nice, and even though I don't like DC, going to law school there just exposes you to all kinds of interesting internship opportunities during the school year.

The negatives:
-Anne Richard seemed annoyed, or at least unenthusiastic, about dealing with the visiting students.  Hello!  It's your job to make me want to come here!  I worried that this might have be symptomatic of a larger problem among the administration.
-The class I sat in on was a bit painful (Property with Overton).  The students were clearly engaged and on point; the professor just droned.  I wouldn't have read so much into one boring class if I hadn't also been told over and over again during the day about GW's emphasis on teaching.
-Not a lot of diversity at GW, as far as I could tell.  Maybe the evening students are different, but I wouldn't be interacting with them anyway.
-Again, the money.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: TraciRai on April 07, 2008, 03:24:41 PM
I enjoyed visiting GW, but in the end, I am still in all likelihood not going to attend.  The main reason is cost.  I was able to stop by the financial aid office at GW and get my estimated award (need-based).  While it was nice to get some grant aid, I would still have to take on roughly $150,000 in debt to attend GW.  I'm not wild about DC as a city (r้sum้-building opportunities aside), I would rather not have to contemplate Biglaw just to pay off debt, and I am 99% certain that I want to practice here in Philly.  For those reasons, the full ride Temple is offering is just too good to pass up.

That said, GW is clearly a great school that provides tremendous opportunities for its smart (and very enthusiastic) students.  The quality of life at GW Law is obviously pretty high.  The facilities are also very nice, and even though I don't like DC, going to law school there just exposes you to all kinds of interesting internship opportunities during the school year.

The negatives:
-Anne Richard seemed annoyed, or at least unenthusiastic, about dealing with the visiting students.  Hello!  It's your job to make me want to come here!  I worried that this might have be symptomatic of a larger problem among the administration.
-The class I sat in on was a bit painful (Property with Overton).  The students were clearly engaged and on point; the professor just droned.  I wouldn't have read so much into one boring class if I hadn't also been told over and over again during the day about GW's emphasis on teaching.
-Not a lot of diversity at GW, as far as I could tell.  Maybe the evening students are different, but I wouldn't be interacting with them anyway.
-Again, the money.

Yeah, Ann Richards was definitely off her game last week, every other time I've met/spoke with her she's been really nice, and a great seller of how good the administration can be here... I really don't know what was up, but she's usually not like that, it makes me think something's going on personally.

Oh, and on behalf of all of GW Law, I apologize for letting anyone go near bad, bad HOVA.  I wouldn't live there, and sure as hell wouldn't have put it anywhere near the tour if I was in charge.  Tink, the Aston was really nice, they are doing a great job with the renovation, and the apartments (all studios, all singles) are going to be fabulous.  I'm a little jealous, if I didn't have my cats I would totally move in there.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: rsg on April 07, 2008, 07:07:12 PM
I enjoyed visiting GW, but in the end, I am still in all likelihood not going to attend.  The main reason is cost.  I was able to stop by the financial aid office at GW and get my estimated award (need-based).  While it was nice to get some grant aid, I would still have to take on roughly $150,000 in debt to attend GW.  I'm not wild about DC as a city (r้sum้-building opportunities aside), I would rather not have to contemplate Biglaw just to pay off debt, and I am 99% certain that I want to practice here in Philly.  For those reasons, the full ride Temple is offering is just too good to pass up.

That said, GW is clearly a great school that provides tremendous opportunities for its smart (and very enthusiastic) students.  The quality of life at GW Law is obviously pretty high.  The facilities are also very nice, and even though I don't like DC, going to law school there just exposes you to all kinds of interesting internship opportunities during the school year.

The negatives:
-Anne Richard seemed annoyed, or at least unenthusiastic, about dealing with the visiting students. Hello!  It's your job to make me want to come here!  I worried that this might have be symptomatic of a larger problem among the administration.
-The class I sat in on was a bit painful (Property with Overton).  The students were clearly engaged and on point; the professor just droned.  I wouldn't have read so much into one boring class if I hadn't also been told over and over again during the day about GW's emphasis on teaching.
-Not a lot of diversity at GW, as far as I could tell.  Maybe the evening students are different, but I wouldn't be interacting with them anyway.
-Again, the money.

IAWTC.  I was talking to a cute girl in the lounge right before the boxed lunch when Dean Richard shooed us off to our assigned classrooms. :\
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: deedeeleigh on April 07, 2008, 07:31:55 PM

Oh, and on behalf of all of GW Law, I apologize for letting anyone go near bad, bad HOVA.  I wouldn't live there, and sure as hell wouldn't have put it anywhere near the tour if I was in charge.  Tink, the Aston was really nice, they are doing a great job with the renovation, and the apartments (all studios, all singles) are going to be fabulous.  I'm a little jealous, if I didn't have my cats I would totally move in there.

Haha, as someone who might be living in the HOVA next year, I'd like to say it's not that bad! I know Traci didn't like it, and neither did anyone on the tour really, but it's hard to gauge normalcy after seeing Columbia Plaza, which is admittedly amazing. You lucky 1L's don't have to worry about that, as you have the shiny new Aston.

I have no idea who Prof Overton is, but Property is a boring, awful subject as far as I can tell.  The prof's here really are extraordinary, with very few not so great ones thrown in. I'm not trying to sway anyone for or against GW, and I think I was pretty honest with my tour group when they asked questions (yes, it is really expensive, no way around that), but the faculty is truly amazing for the most part. 
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: TraciRai on April 07, 2008, 08:02:45 PM

Oh, and on behalf of all of GW Law, I apologize for letting anyone go near bad, bad HOVA.  I wouldn't live there, and sure as hell wouldn't have put it anywhere near the tour if I was in charge.  Tink, the Aston was really nice, they are doing a great job with the renovation, and the apartments (all studios, all singles) are going to be fabulous.  I'm a little jealous, if I didn't have my cats I would totally move in there.

Haha, as someone who might be living in the HOVA next year, I'd like to say it's not that bad! I know Traci didn't like it, and neither did anyone on the tour really, but it's hard to gauge normalcy after seeing Columbia Plaza, which is admittedly amazing. You lucky 1L's don't have to worry about that, as you have the shiny new Aston.

I have no idea who Prof Overton is, but Property is a boring, awful subject as far as I can tell.  The prof's here really are extraordinary, with very few not so great ones thrown in. I'm not trying to sway anyone for or against GW, and I think I was pretty honest with my tour group when they asked questions (yes, it is really expensive, no way around that), but the faculty is truly amazing for the most part. 

I love property, it's not boring!  But I have Nunziato, which probably affects my opinion quite a bit because she's awesome.  If you have the chance to take her for any intellectual property stuff, she's great and adorably excited about the subject.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: lflyer on April 08, 2008, 05:57:06 AM

Oh, and on behalf of all of GW Law, I apologize for letting anyone go near bad, bad HOVA.  I wouldn't live there, and sure as hell wouldn't have put it anywhere near the tour if I was in charge.  Tink, the Aston was really nice, they are doing a great job with the renovation, and the apartments (all studios, all singles) are going to be fabulous.  I'm a little jealous, if I didn't have my cats I would totally move in there.

Haha, as someone who might be living in the HOVA next year, I'd like to say it's not that bad! I know Traci didn't like it, and neither did anyone on the tour really, but it's hard to gauge normalcy after seeing Columbia Plaza, which is admittedly amazing. You lucky 1L's don't have to worry about that, as you have the shiny new Aston.

I have no idea who Prof Overton is, but Property is a boring, awful subject as far as I can tell.  The prof's here really are extraordinary, with very few not so great ones thrown in. I'm not trying to sway anyone for or against GW, and I think I was pretty honest with my tour group when they asked questions (yes, it is really expensive, no way around that), but the faculty is truly amazing for the most part. 

I just want to stress to anyone who sat in on Overton's class that that is not NOT representative of the school's faculty.  Unfortunately I've had to endure him all semester and at times hes made me consider throwing myself out the 3rd story window that I sit right next to.  About 90% of the class (literally) does not like him.  For those of you that sat in on Cunningham's class, thats alot more like the experience you will have with most professors, atleast from what I've seen.  In fact, every single professor I've had or talked to, with the except of Overton, has a good personality, makes the class laugh, and will do everything they can to help you out. 

And yeah, HOVA is a ****hole.  But there are a ton of other modestly priced places to live around school, in other parts of the city, and in Virginia.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on April 08, 2008, 09:38:39 AM
The deposit deadline is coming up. Anyone make up their mind yet? I still haven't :o
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on April 08, 2008, 09:43:33 AM
The deposit deadline is coming up. Anyone make up their mind yet? I still haven't :o

I'm waiting til the April 15th postmark date a week from today.  If I don't hear from BU (or if they reject/WL me) I'm sending it in.

So basically yeah I'm sending it in.  The only reason for waiting until the last moment is that I'm waiting on BU.

If you got into BU over the summer after a waitlist, do you know if they would still make you pay a deposit? GW's deposit is so expensive. It kind of sucks to pay it knowing that you are still waiting on other schools. That's kind of the same place I'm in (5 waitlists, 4 deferrals).
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on April 08, 2008, 09:56:18 AM
Yeah I don't have a problem paying a deposit somewhere. The only thing that concerns me is getting off a waitlist late into the summer and having to pay another one on top of the two I already paid (GWs second one is in early June and a few of my waitlisted schools said they won't even review apps again until late May). Of course if I was extremely wealthy I wouldn't have a problem doing it. But since I'm not and I really don't make a lot of money, I can't afford to pay multiple deposits. I know some schools will waive the deposits and others won't. I think that's why I'm waiting until the last possible minute.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on April 08, 2008, 10:58:35 AM
So I've been told the price for the Aston is $1450. Does anyone know if this includes all utilities including internet and cable? Also is it just me, or does this price seem a little high for the budget GW gave us?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on April 08, 2008, 11:18:20 AM
Thanks for the site cosmo. I've already visited the Aston and I've spoken with Mr. Dillard and it seems like a very nice place. I guess I'm just kind of saying out loud that I don't know if I want to pay that much when I could go into NOVA and pay a little less. Making decisions is hard for me.

Do you all know if GW helps with finding roomates? I've been on the grad site where you can post that you are looking for a roomate. But I know that some other schools have roomate forms that you fill out and they'll put you in contact with potential roomates based on your specifications.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on April 08, 2008, 11:21:26 AM
Thanks for the site cosmo. I've already visited the Aston and I've spoken with Mr. Dillard and it seems like a very nice place. I guess I'm just kind of saying out loud that I don't know if I want to pay that much when I could go into NOVA and pay a little less. Making decisions is hard for me.

Do you all know if GW helps with finding roomates? I've been on the grad site where you can post that you are looking for a roomate. But I know that some other schools have roomate forms that you fill out and they'll put you in contact with potential roomates based on your specifications.


No sorry I don't know...

You were so full of info I was sure you would know ;).
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on April 09, 2008, 10:18:21 AM
Thanks for the site cosmo. I've already visited the Aston and I've spoken with Mr. Dillard and it seems like a very nice place. I guess I'm just kind of saying out loud that I don't know if I want to pay that much when I could go into NOVA and pay a little less. Making decisions is hard for me.

Do you all know if GW helps with finding roomates? I've been on the grad site where you can post that you are looking for a roomate. But I know that some other schools have roomate forms that you fill out and they'll put you in contact with potential roomates based on your specifications.


No sorry I don't know...

You were so full of info I was sure you would know ;).


Well since I'm moving with my husband (hopefully if he finds a job), I'm not looking for a roommate.  Sowwy!

Lucky you. I would love to have a built in roomie ;)
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: J.A.A.N. on April 11, 2008, 08:09:02 PM
I will be mailing my deposit to GW on Monday  ;D

This completes my cycle. (although, I'll stay on the WL for UVA - cause you never know  :))
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: J.A.A.N. on April 11, 2008, 08:12:58 PM
I will be mailing my deposit to GW on Monday  ;D

This completes my cycle. (although, I'll stay on the WL for UVA - cause you never know  :))

I'm depositing on Tuesday, giving BU as much time as possible to send me a response.

Staying on the BC waitlist...

LOL. I meant Tuesday 4/15 because I too am waiting until the VERY last minute.
Good Luck with BC and "worst case", which happens to not be a bad case at all, I'll see you at GW  ;)
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: TraciRai on April 13, 2008, 03:14:56 PM
Anyone know of any apartment complexes in Arlington for less than $1300 for a 1BR within walking distance to a metro station?

That all depends on what you consider "walking distance".
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: TraciRai on April 13, 2008, 04:44:07 PM
Anyone know of any apartment complexes in Arlington for less than $1300 for a 1BR within walking distance to a metro station?

That all depends on what you consider "walking distance".

Hmm I guess that's a no. 

Okay - any apartments within walking distance (short) to the matro and max $1300 and within 30 min commute on the metro to the school?  Anywhere?

They are out there... but since I don't live there, and have done absolutely no apartment searches in VA, I don't know exactly where.  I will say that the Ballston area seems like a good place to start.  I know several people who live out that way.  I will ask them tmrw what they pay.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: J.A.A.N. on April 15, 2008, 06:34:49 PM
Me! Me! I carried the letter to the post office just before 5pm yesterday (trying to avoid the tax lines of today)
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: LuvHurtz on April 15, 2008, 07:55:22 PM
Anyone else send in a deposit (by) today?

I sent mine in...but of course just after I did I found out I got into Cornell so even though I've paid a deposit I still have more decisions to make. I think this is going to be a long cycle for me. I still have more deferrals.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: qoftheu on April 16, 2008, 07:11:01 AM
I sent in my deposit yesterday! So I guess it's GW if I don't get off UVA's waitlist.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: J.A.A.N. on April 16, 2008, 07:16:40 AM
Me! Me! I carried the letter to the post office just before 5pm yesterday (trying to avoid the tax lines of today)

Haha I went this morning and at first I was so surprised that the post office was so bumpin' at 8:30am.  I was like- wow I had no idea it was so busy in the morning then I quickly realized why... then a woman was shouting "DOES ANYONE NEED ANY HELP?!  DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?!" and there was a pile of certified mail forms on one of the tables with the address of the IRS - it was pretty weird... I got a number 40 behind, and waited about 10 minutes.

I got my letter certified - was on the fence about doing this but it just made me feel better.

LOL, I ditched my plan of postmarking on the 15th when I accepted that I was most likely not going to get any news on 4/15 that would change my mind. I did not certify but I sent an email, which they acknowledged, letting admissions know I mailed the deposit.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: J.A.A.N. on April 16, 2008, 07:24:59 AM
I needed the assurance and didn't want to bother with cert. You are probably good since you certified yours. I doubt it would hurt at all though.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: J.A.A.N. on April 16, 2008, 07:28:07 AM
Cool, although I suck at MS and FB (never check my email, etc. take forever to accept friend requests). I'm getting better.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: J.A.A.N. on April 16, 2008, 07:35:43 AM
I am from DC, although I've lived in Northern VA (NOVA) more than DC, and moved to GA 2 years ago. I will probably be back in NOVA. The biggest factors are affordability and school systems. I've got 2 kids (one going to 3rd grade and the other turning 2 soon). I prefer Alexandria/Arlington/Springfield/Annandale but would go as far as Fairfax/Burke. I also like Chevy Chase/Bethesda in MD but that area is a little more expensive. I am not looking in DC at all.

What about you?
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: J.A.A.N. on April 16, 2008, 07:49:19 AM
Cool. Your husband should def be able to land something in the area. I lived in Arlington for several years and love it!

I joined the FB group, by the way  ;)
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: J.A.A.N. on April 16, 2008, 07:55:41 AM
Even if not in NOVA, everyone commutes in the DC area so working in MD or DC is not unheard of. Still, my fingers are crossed for a NOVA opp.
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: PillowPants on May 14, 2008, 08:37:10 AM
anybody send in that second deposit yet
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: bert on May 15, 2008, 11:22:40 PM
Congrats GWU c/o 2011 -

I just finished up my first year of studies in DC, and have a rather large box of 1L-related books I'd like to sell as a single unit:

Getting to Maybe
Understanding Constitutional Law (3rd) – Redlich
Constitutional Law – Emanuels Hornbooks
Constitutional Criminal Procedure (Casebook, 3rd) – Taslitz
Criminal Procedure – Emanuels Hornbooks
Acing Civil Procedure – Spencer
Civil Procedure – Glannon
2007 Civil Procedure Supplement – Friedenthal
2007 Contract Law Supplement – Burton
Civil Procedure Casenote Legal Briefs – Keyed to Freer
Civil Procedure Casenote Legal Briefs – Keyed to Friedenthal
Torts Casenote Legal Briefs – Keyed to Franklin
Contracts Casenote Legal Briefs – Keyed to Murphy
Gilbert Law Summaries, Torts – Franklin (New)
West’s Legal Environment of Business – Cross
Nolo Legal Research – 13th Edition (New)
Studies in Contract Law – (Casebook, 6th) – Murphy
Civil Procedure (Casebook, 2nd) – Subrin
Tort Law (Casebook, 8th) – Franklin
Torts - Glannon
...and more, if you'd like.

First reasonable offer takes the lot.  I don't care if you light them on fire or sell them individually on Amazon for profit.  I'll be in DC until Saturday afternoon.

Cheers,
Hugh
hac29 [at] law.georgetown.edu
Title: Re: GWU Class of 2011 (or just thinking about it)
Post by: greenie on May 16, 2008, 06:00:02 AM
$20