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Deciding Where to Go => Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses => Topic started by: 12345 on January 28, 2008, 11:49:19 PM

Title: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: 12345 on January 28, 2008, 11:49:19 PM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: lsatarist on January 29, 2008, 12:37:18 AM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

The people at Florida (Levin) were the rudest people I have encountered in any academic environment.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: pikey on January 29, 2008, 12:43:53 AM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

How do you know she's black?  And why is her race in any way relevant?
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Avicenna on January 29, 2008, 01:27:28 AM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

How do you know she's black?  And why is her race in any way relevant?


How is this question relevant? The op is just describing his/her experience.No where did the op refer to any correlation between the incident and the race of the aggressor. If you try to read this post from a more holistic perspective, you will see that he/she is not trying to be racist by any means.

To add to this conversation.
I have had one rude admissions assistant @ GW.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: LegallyAccepted on January 29, 2008, 01:36:54 AM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

How do you know she's black?  And why is her race in any way relevant?


How is this question relevant? The op is just describing his/her experience.No where did the op refer to any correlation between the incident and the race of the aggressor. If you try to read this post from a more holistic perspective, you will see that he/she is not trying to be racist by any means.

To add to this conversation.
I have had one rude admissions assistant @ GW.


The question is relevant because the OP chose to refer to the lady by race, so, inevitably, one would ask what was the importance of it.  The OP could have simply shared the experience with the staff, and left it at that.  There was no need to emphasize ANY race because it does not add to the story.  It only deters one from it.

Haven't had any negative experiences (except Vandy not responding to emails), but best does have to go to Tulane, WUSTL, Emory.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: pikey on January 29, 2008, 01:39:19 AM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

How do you know she's black?  And why is her race in any way relevant?


How is this question relevant? The op is just describing his/her experience.No where did the op refer to any correlation between the incident and the race of the aggressor. If you try to read this post from a more holistic perspective, you will see that he/she is not trying to be racist by any means.

To add to this conversation.
I have had one rude admissions assistant @ GW.


Did I say that (s)he was trying to be racist?  I asked a few questions in the hope that people would think about the assumptions they make, just like the one you just made.

LegallyAccepted is also spot on.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Boyce Baylor on January 29, 2008, 06:48:12 AM
The only people I've talked to were at BC and they were a little curt with me, I also thought it was pretty rude of Texas to reject me, not sure the race of the person who wrote my DING.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: juliemccoy on January 29, 2008, 07:08:49 AM



The people at Florida (Levin) were the rudest people I have encountered in any academic environment.

Really? I had a not so great experience initially with one person in the admissions office (everyone else was superb), but the student affairs/financial aid people are amazingly nice and helpful here at Levin. Like, ridiculously nice.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: PollyMaggoo on January 29, 2008, 07:12:35 AM
No bad experiences yet. I spoke with two extremely friendly and helpful women when I called to check on my status at BU and Brooklyn.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: jnb983 on January 29, 2008, 07:33:51 AM
I had a really bad experience with Georgetown last year.  They kept giving me incorrect information about my application that resulted in my app not being complete until after the regular deadline, even though it was filed and actually complete well before the ED deadline.  Well, it was one person, really, and I don't think that person works there anymore.

This year they've been wonderful.   But they also let me in, so maybe I'm biased  ;D
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: 12345 on January 29, 2008, 01:28:54 PM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

How do you know she's black?  And why is her race in any way relevant?

It is relevant...but not because she is black/white/(pink or neon green...honestly,a person's color doesn't matter to me. I don't think people should be given benefits because of race nor should they be hurt in any way for being black (or being another URM) either...I think people are equal)...

But, I also think people should be responsible for their words/actions and so I simply said that she is black to identify her as much as possible. My guess is there are only a handful of people who work in the UT financial aid office, and if by some off chance her boss likes to troll LSD during admission season, I'll bet he/she could identify her...in addition to this maybe other students will not take her put downs to heart if they know she is doing it to others too.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: 12345 on January 29, 2008, 02:20:26 PM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

How do you know she's black?  And why is her race in any way relevant?

It is relevant...but not because she is black/white/(pink or neon green...honestly,a person's color doesn't matter to me. I don't think people should be given benefits because of race nor should they be hurt in any way for being black (or being another URM) either...I think people are equal)...

But, I also think people should be responsible for their words/actions and so I simply said that she is black to identify her as much as possible. My guess is there are only a handful of people who work in the UT financial aid office, and if by some off chance her boss likes to troll LSD during admission season, I'll bet he/she could identify her...in addition to this maybe other students will not take her put downs to heart if they know she is doing it to others too.

LMAO. You can't be serious. How do you know she is black? Did she specifically tell you? Wouldn't it be more easier to "identify her as much as possible" by telling everyone the date, time, and the particular department you called? Why alert adcomms in such an indirect way? An anomous e-mail would surely get your point across.

She was rude enough that I was actually contemplating taking it that far...and I still might. But as for being unable to identify that she was black...YOU can't be serious...she had a very thick African American accent, and to suggest that a normal human being in our society can't identify someone's color by that is ridiculous...have you ever heard a Chinese accent? What about an East Indian accent? Is it racist to assume that you are taking to a Chinese person or an East Indian person when they speak in that way, or does someone have to specifically tell you what race they are in order for you to know....(this is a bunch of politically correct BS and you know it...everyone does).
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Boyce Baylor on January 29, 2008, 02:20:32 PM
Cornell was just super nice, which was interesting.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: neverold on January 29, 2008, 08:22:17 PM
For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment.

How is the representative's gender in any way relevant?

Why are people taking offense at certain descriptions and not others?  I'm not trying to be a smart-ass - I'm genuinely curious.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Boyce Baylor on January 29, 2008, 08:24:02 PM
For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment.

How is the representative's gender in any way relevant?

Why are people taking offense at certain descriptions and not others?  I'm not trying to be a smart-ass - I'm genuinely curious.

Egregious Hilldog trolling

Subtle Mike Gravel trolling
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: hurley325 on January 29, 2008, 08:41:30 PM
Haven't had any negative experiences (except Vandy not responding to emails), but best does have to go to Tulane, WUSTL, Emory.

Tulane's admissions office has been outstanding for me as well.  I would add that I have been extremely impressed by Baylor and Missouri as well.

I really haven't had any bad experiences as of yet, although I have not had much contact with many schools.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: 12345 on January 30, 2008, 12:35:59 AM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

How do you know she's black?  And why is her race in any way relevant?

It is relevant...but not because she is black/white/(pink or neon green...honestly,a person's color doesn't matter to me. I don't think people should be given benefits because of race nor should they be hurt in any way for being black (or being another URM) either...I think people are equal)...

But, I also think people should be responsible for their words/actions and so I simply said that she is black to identify her as much as possible. My guess is there are only a handful of people who work in the UT financial aid office, and if by some off chance her boss likes to troll LSD during admission season, I'll bet he/she could identify her...in addition to this maybe other students will not take her put downs to heart if they know she is doing it to others too.

LMAO. You can't be serious. How do you know she is black? Did she specifically tell you? Wouldn't it be more easier to "identify her as much as possible" by telling everyone the date, time, and the particular department you called? Why alert adcomms in such an indirect way? An anomous e-mail would surely get your point across.

She was rude enough that I was actually contemplating taking it that far...and I still might. But as for being unable to identify that she was black...YOU can't be serious...she had a very thick African American accent, and to suggest that a normal human being in our society can't identify someone's color by that is ridiculous...have you ever heard a Chinese accent? What about an East Indian accent? Is it racist to assume that you are taking to a Chinese person or an East Indian person when they speak in that way, or does someone have to specifically tell you what race they are in order for you to know....(this is a bunch of politically correct BS and you know it...everyone does).

call it what you want but i just don't see the relevance.

"and to suggest that a normal human being in our society can't identify someone's color by that is ridiculous"

that's a stretch. please reread my post. i was simply asking you to explain how you knew that she was black.

Is it racist to assume that you are taking to a Chinese person or an East Indian person when they speak in that way,


That's exactly where i was going with this.            ::calls Al Sharpton on Speed dial::



BTW. The white lady that i spoke with at Chicago was very helpful with my financial aid info.  ;)


Kudos to Chicago.







So you're saying that I'm racist because I said a black lady was rude and I could tell she was black by her accent over the phone....just like I'm a racist because I assume I am talking to an East Indian person on the phone when they have an East Indian accent....WOW...how do you survive? You must think nearly everyone is a racist (because most people can pick out an accent over the phone)....sounds like a hard f*cking life, dude.

Have you ever asked yourself why you are so hypersensitive, because that is exactly what your posts show? (And if you think you are not, then why are you making an issue of this?)

Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: jnb983 on January 30, 2008, 07:56:07 AM

So you're saying that I'm racist because I said a black lady was rude and I could tell she was black by her accent over the phone....just like I'm a racist because I assume I am talking to an East Indian person on the phone when they have an East Indian accent....WOW...how do you survive? You must think nearly everyone is a racist (because most people can pick out an accent over the phone)....sounds like a hard f*cking life, dude.

Have you ever asked yourself why you are so hypersensitive, because that is exactly what your posts show? (And if you think you are not, then why are you making an issue of this?)



I think all people are trying to say is that you clearly wrote that post with anger/frustration, which you have a total right to have after your experience.  It's just that in your decription of the person you talked to, we can still read the anger.  It seems like you are angry at her as much for being a "black lady" as for being a rude financial aid person, as if that in some way made the whole situation more insulting.  This may not be what you meant to communicate, but it's easy to interpret that way.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Tegoyan on January 30, 2008, 08:27:10 AM
OP, since you claim you included the woman's race as an "identifier" why didn't you racially identify the wonderful, helpful people at Cornell so that we could all thank them for treating you so well?

The fact is that you wrote "black woman" because you were mad, but if a white woman would've been rude to you, I bet we would not have seen "white woman" in your post. If the black woman had been nice to you, you probably would not have mentioned her race either.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 30, 2008, 08:37:45 AM
OP, since you claim you included the woman's race as an "identifier" why didn't you racially identify the wonderful, helpful people at Cornell so that we could all thank them for treating you so well?

The fact is that you wrote "black woman" because you were mad, but if a white woman would've been rude to you, I bet we would not have seen "white woman" in your post. If the black woman had been nice to you, you probably would not have mentioned her race either.

pretty much.

and fwiw, what the @#!* is an African American accent?  I have never heard any bull like that before. 
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: tinkerbelle01 on January 30, 2008, 10:56:32 AM

and fwiw, what the @#!* is an African American accent?  I have never heard any bull like that before. 

I think this is what the OP meant by African American 'accent':

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_Vernacular_English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_Vernacular_English)
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration on January 30, 2008, 11:01:47 AM
excuse me tinkerbelle, i demand you make a new name.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: tinkerbelle01 on January 30, 2008, 11:04:22 AM
Haha why... what's wrong with tinkerbelle? 
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Special Agent Dana Scully on January 30, 2008, 11:18:24 AM

and fwiw, what the @#!* is an African American accent?  I have never heard any bull like that before. 

I think this is what the OP meant by African American 'accent':

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_Vernacular_English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_Vernacular_English)

 ::)

i'm sure this is a flame but...

i know about AAVE...however, i doubt that a black female at a professional job working in the offices of a law school would not speak that way to a potential student.

AAVE =/= AA accent.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: 12345 on January 30, 2008, 03:50:22 PM

So you're saying that I'm racist because I said a black lady was rude and I could tell she was black by her accent over the phone....just like I'm a racist because I assume I am talking to an East Indian person on the phone when they have an East Indian accent....WOW...how do you survive? You must think nearly everyone is a racist (because most people can pick out an accent over the phone)....sounds like a hard f*cking life, dude.

Have you ever asked yourself why you are so hypersensitive, because that is exactly what your posts show? (And if you think you are not, then why are you making an issue of this?)



I think all people are trying to say is that you clearly wrote that post with anger/frustration, which you have a total right to have after your experience.  It's just that in your decription of the person you talked to, we can still read the anger.  It seems like you are angry at her as much for being a "black lady" as for being a rude financial aid person, as if that in some way made the whole situation more insulting.  This may not be what you meant to communicate, but it's easy to interpret that way.


Anger/Frustration about how belittling she was...YES...as for her race...I honestly didn't care, and for you to assume what you wrote (in red) about me is a terrible assumption. (Whether any of you believe me at this point...well, I really could care less, because it almost seems like a few of you are pushing an agenda.)

My ONLY reason for saying that she was black is because my guess is there can't be more than 3 to 5 people who work in that part of the admissions office. Chances are also good that saying she was a black woman narrows it down even further. If you have any contact with her, watch out, because what happened to me was rude and completely unprovoked. (But in all fairness to her, maybe she was just having a bad day, or going through a divorce or something???....even so, being angry on my part was a very normal response for the way I was treated, and it had NOTHING to do with the fact she was black.)

The fact that such a trivial descriptive word is being made into such a big deal is pretty sad if you think about it...
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: LegallyAccepted on January 30, 2008, 03:54:50 PM

So you're saying that I'm racist because I said a black lady was rude and I could tell she was black by her accent over the phone....just like I'm a racist because I assume I am talking to an East Indian person on the phone when they have an East Indian accent....WOW...how do you survive? You must think nearly everyone is a racist (because most people can pick out an accent over the phone)....sounds like a hard f*cking life, dude.

Have you ever asked yourself why you are so hypersensitive, because that is exactly what your posts show? (And if you think you are not, then why are you making an issue of this?)



I think all people are trying to say is that you clearly wrote that post with anger/frustration, which you have a total right to have after your experience.  It's just that in your decription of the person you talked to, we can still read the anger.  It seems like you are angry at her as much for being a "black lady" as for being a rude financial aid person, as if that in some way made the whole situation more insulting.  This may not be what you meant to communicate, but it's easy to interpret that way.


Anger/Frustration about how belittling she was...YES...as for her race...I honestly didn't care, and for you to assume what you wrote (in red) about me is a terrible assumption. (Whether any of you believe me at this point...well, I really could care less, because it almost seems like a few of you are pushing an agenda.)

My ONLY reason for saying that she was black is because my guess is there can't be more than 3 to 5 people who work in that part of the admissions office. Chances are also good that saying she was a black woman narrows it down even further. If you have any contact with her, watch out, because what happened to me was rude and completely unprovoked. (But in all fairness to her, maybe she was just having a bad day, or going through a divorce or something???....even so, being angry on my part was a very normal response for the way I was treated, and it had NOTHING to do with the fact she was black.)

The fact that such a trivial descriptive word is being made into such a big deal is pretty sad if you think about it...

If you honestly don't care, then you would not have included it.

FYI: There are more than 3-5 BLACK people that work in that part of the admissions office
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: LegallyAccepted on January 30, 2008, 03:55:59 PM

So you're saying that I'm racist because I said a black lady was rude and I could tell she was black by her accent over the phone....just like I'm a racist because I assume I am talking to an East Indian person on the phone when they have an East Indian accent....WOW...how do you survive? You must think nearly everyone is a racist (because most people can pick out an accent over the phone)....sounds like a hard f*cking life, dude.

Have you ever asked yourself why you are so hypersensitive, because that is exactly what your posts show? (And if you think you are not, then why are you making an issue of this?)



I think all people are trying to say is that you clearly wrote that post with anger/frustration, which you have a total right to have after your experience.  It's just that in your decription of the person you talked to, we can still read the anger.  It seems like you are angry at her as much for being a "black lady" as for being a rude financial aid person, as if that in some way made the whole situation more insulting.  This may not be what you meant to communicate, but it's easy to interpret that way.


Anger/Frustration about how belittling she was...YES...as for her race...I honestly didn't care, and for you to assume what you wrote (in red) about me is a terrible assumption. (Whether any of you believe me at this point...well, I really could care less, because it almost seems like a few of you are pushing an agenda.)

My ONLY reason for saying that she was black is because my guess is there can't be more than 3 to 5 people who work in that part of the admissions office. Chances are also good that saying she was a black woman narrows it down even further. If you have any contact with her, watch out, because what happened to me was rude and completely unprovoked. (But in all fairness to her, maybe she was just having a bad day, or going through a divorce or something???....even so, being angry on my part was a very normal response for the way I was treated, and it had NOTHING to do with the fact she was black.)

The fact that such a trivial descriptive word is being made into such a big deal is pretty sad if you think about it...

If you honestly don't care, then you would not have included it.

FYI: There are more than 3-5 BLACK people that work in that part of the admissions office
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: 12345 on January 30, 2008, 04:39:42 PM
If you read the paragraph which includes your second red highlight (ie. I know you read it, but I guess the truth wasn't sufficient for you)....THAT is why I included it.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: LegallyAccepted on January 30, 2008, 04:43:48 PM
If you read the paragraph which includes your second red highlight (ie. I know you read it, but I guess the truth wasn't sufficient for you)....THAT is why I included it.

If you read my FYI, then you will see why I included it. 
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: 12345 on January 30, 2008, 04:56:30 PM
If you read the paragraph which includes your second red highlight (ie. I know you read it, but I guess the truth wasn't sufficient for you)....THAT is why I included it.

If you read my FYI, then you will see why I included it. 

I did read it, and I guess I assumed the staff was smaller than it is. That still doesn't change the fact that identifying her was my motivation though.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: LegallyAccepted on January 30, 2008, 05:01:28 PM
If you read the paragraph which includes your second red highlight (ie. I know you read it, but I guess the truth wasn't sufficient for you)....THAT is why I included it.


If you read my FYI, then you will see why I included it. 

I did read it, and I guess I assumed the staff was smaller than it is. That still doesn't change the fact that identifying her was my motivation though.

At this point it honestly doesn't matter your motive behind it.  You have to think about how things will sound out loud, not just in your head.  And out loud, it sounds like a racist comment (I don't know you to say that you are a racist).  Just think before you talk/type.  And now, I am done with this topic
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: 12345 on January 30, 2008, 05:11:50 PM
So you honestly think it is racist to identify someone as a "black women" ....you and I are from very different worlds, and I am sorry for offending you (and the rest of you). Just a heads up, I am not from the Southern US, even though I am applying there, and in the state I am from, most people (IMO) would not jump to a "racist" conclusion that you (and the others) have.

Anyways, I will try to be more careful next time.



If you read the paragraph which includes your second red highlight (ie. I know you read it, but I guess the truth wasn't sufficient for you)....THAT is why I included it.


If you read my FYI, then you will see why I included it. 

I did read it, and I guess I assumed the staff was smaller than it is. That still doesn't change the fact that identifying her was my motivation though.

At this point it honestly doesn't matter your motive behind it.  You have to think about how things will sound out loud, not just in your head.  And out loud, it sounds like a racist comment (I don't know you to say that you are a racist).  Just think before you talk/type.  And now, I am done with this topic
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: MidwesternGuy on January 30, 2008, 09:00:21 PM
loyola chicago lady was a bit mean.  but it could just be that I'm retarded

Exact same here. Very unhappy with the woman I met with. Turned me off to the entire school.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: dashrashi on January 30, 2008, 10:54:56 PM
So you honestly think it is racist to identify someone as a "black women" ....you and I are from very different worlds, and I am sorry for offending you (and the rest of you). Just a heads up, I am not from the Southern US, even though I am applying there, and in the state I am from, most people (IMO) would not jump to a "racist" conclusion that you (and the others) have.

Anyways, I will try to be more careful next time.

OP, I've got to point you towards this again:

OP, since you claim you included the woman's race as an "identifier" why didn't you racially identify the wonderful, helpful people at Cornell so that we could all thank them for treating you so well?

The fact is that you wrote "black woman" because you were mad, but if a white woman would've been rude to you, I bet we would not have seen "white woman" in your post. If the black woman had been nice to you, you probably would not have mentioned her race either.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: 12345 on January 30, 2008, 11:36:33 PM
So you honestly think it is racist to identify someone as a "black women" ....you and I are from very different worlds, and I am sorry for offending you (and the rest of you). Just a heads up, I am not from the Southern US, even though I am applying there, and in the state I am from, most people (IMO) would not jump to a "racist" conclusion that you (and the others) have.

Anyways, I will try to be more careful next time.

OP, I've got to point you towards this again:

OP, since you claim you included the woman's race as an "identifier" why didn't you racially identify the wonderful, helpful people at Cornell so that we could all thank them for treating you so well?

The fact is that you wrote "black woman" because you were mad, but if a white woman would've been rude to you, I bet we would not have seen "white woman" in your post. If the black woman had been nice to you, you probably would not have mentioned her race either.

You just HAVE to keep this going...Why? Go have a fight with yourself. I'm done with this.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Gordon_Gekko on January 30, 2008, 11:42:32 PM
For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment.

How is the representative's gender in any way relevant?

Why are people taking offense at certain descriptions and not others?  I'm not trying to be a smart-ass - I'm genuinely curious.

maybe they have sand in their (insert name of a body part).
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: chillywilly on January 31, 2008, 02:25:27 AM
Maybe she was rude because you are a racist and could tell by your accent?  Hmm, sweet irony.   :P
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Boyce Baylor on January 31, 2008, 06:47:08 AM
This white dude at Howard was a total cock to me when I called, he said they would not send me a complete notice until I sent them an application.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: I can has lauskul! on January 31, 2008, 07:50:39 AM
This white dude at Howard was a total cock to me when I called, he said they would not send me a complete notice until I sent them an application.

This hillbilly chick at Appalachian sounded totally hot, hot, hot...even though she was not, not, not.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: I can has lauskul! on January 31, 2008, 07:53:02 AM
This white dude at Howard was a total cock to me when I called, he said they would not send me a complete notice until I sent them an application.

This hillbilly chick at Appalachian sounded totally hot, hot, hot...even though she was not, not, not.

And this guy at Phoenix wanted to give me some oranges.  Or he wanted to turn me into an orange.  I don't know...I didn't bother reading the fine print.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Dr. Rose on January 31, 2008, 08:03:12 AM
This white dude at Howard was a total cock to me when I called, he said they would not send me a complete notice until I sent them an application.

This hillbilly chick at Appalachian sounded totally hot, hot, hot...even though she was not, not, not.

And this guy at Phoenix wanted to give me some oranges.  Or he wanted to turn me into an orange.  I don't know...I didn't bother reading the fine print.
No, I think it was Candy who wanted to give you some oranges. Or turn you into one so she could pluck you from the orange tree.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Phineas on January 31, 2008, 09:17:09 AM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

Why do people care so much about the friendliness of admissions and financial aid staffs?  If that is something that is going to affect their decision of where to study the law, they are far too frail to exist--period.  What?  Are they going to be spending countless hours hanging out with them?  You people are pathetic.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Phineas on January 31, 2008, 09:37:00 AM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

Why do people care so much about the friendliness of admissions and financial aid staffs?  If that is something that is going to affect their decision of where to study the law, they are far too frail to exist--period.  What?  Are they going to be spending countless hours hanging out with them?  You people are pathetic.

Very true. But then again you don't want to be rubbed the wrong way when you call a school up....  The white lady that i spoke with at Duke was very friendly. (Hint: lurking addcomms give her a raise) You know it was the white lady. Hope this helps, i don't think the majority of the staff was white, so my description should help. ;)

White?  Really.  I don't think I've encountered one of those in the admissions offices I've contacted.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Boyce Baylor on January 31, 2008, 09:45:37 AM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

Why do people care so much about the friendliness of admissions and financial aid staffs?  If that is something that is going to affect their decision of where to study the law, they are far too frail to exist--period.  What?  Are they going to be spending countless hours hanging out with them?  You people are pathetic.

Very true. But then again you don't want to be rubbed the wrong way when you call a school up....  The white lady that i spoke with at Duke was very friendly. (Hint: lurking addcomms give her a raise) You know it was the white lady. Hope this helps, i don't think the majority of the staff was white, so my description should help. ;)

I spoke with a Somoan at Vanderbilt who was a prince, but when I called the next day there was this half-Filipino woman who was a total witch.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Phineas on January 31, 2008, 09:53:20 AM
Vandy over Fordham, Boston?
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Boyce Baylor on January 31, 2008, 10:00:23 AM
Vandy over Fordham, Boston?

Yep, seems likely.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: southernreality on January 31, 2008, 11:00:29 AM
Maybe she was rude because you are a racist and could tell by your accent?  Hmm, sweet irony.   :P

To the OP, if it makes you feel better, what you wrote does not sound racist at all. Some people just like to walk around with a cactus up their ass, and a discussion board like this is the perfect place to find them. It is called a witch-hunt and you are the target right now. (and to those of you who are attacking the OP, people like you actually make racism worse. You should think about that before you throw up on people with your stupid comments)

OP, now you should realize, however, that if you do come down South, that blacks are rude to whites all the time for no reason other than the fact that you are white (and vice versa). I would not be surprised if that woman was rude to you simply because you sounded white, and you wanted a grant/financial aid. Where I am from, this is just reality so you better get used to it. I am not from TX either, but it is the same there as it is here, I am sure of it.

As for the topic, very nice white man at Emory.


(and don't hiss at me for creating a new profile without first pointing the finger at chillwilly, who by the way is probably black)


Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Boyce Baylor on January 31, 2008, 11:46:21 AM
Maybe she was rude because you are a racist and could tell by your accent?  Hmm, sweet irony.   :P

To the OP, if it makes you feel better, what you wrote does not sound racist at all. Some people just like to walk around with a cactus up their ass, and a discussion board like this is the perfect place to find them. It is called a witch-hunt and you are the target right now. (and to those of you who are attacking the OP, people like you actually make racism worse. You should think about that before you throw up on people with your stupid comments)

OP, now you should realize, however, that if you do come down South, that blacks are rude to whites all the time for no reason other than the fact that you are white (and vice versa). I would not be surprised if that woman was rude to you simply because you sounded white, and you wanted a grant/financial aid. Where I am from, this is just reality so you better get used to it. I am not from TX either, but it is the same there as it is here, I am sure of it.

As for the topic, very nice white man at Emory.


(and don't hiss at me for creating a new profile without first pointing the finger at chillwilly, who by the way is probably black)




I think some posters may have gotten a ltille over sanctimonious with the OP and I also believe I can tell if a person is black or white on the phone with a fair degree of accuracy (though I probably wouldn't have mentioned it), but this is either ingenious flame or you are a straight biggot.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: southernreality on January 31, 2008, 12:33:12 PM
Maybe she was rude because you are a racist and could tell by your accent?  Hmm, sweet irony.   :P

To the OP, if it makes you feel better, what you wrote does not sound racist at all. Some people just like to walk around with a cactus up their ass, and a discussion board like this is the perfect place to find them. It is called a witch-hunt and you are the target right now. (and to those of you who are attacking the OP, people like you actually make racism worse. You should think about that before you throw up on people with your stupid comments)

OP, now you should realize, however, that if you do come down South, that blacks are rude to whites all the time for no reason other than the fact that you are white (and vice versa). I would not be surprised if that woman was rude to you simply because you sounded white, and you wanted a grant/financial aid. Where I am from, this is just reality so you better get used to it. I am not from TX either, but it is the same there as it is here, I am sure of it.

As for the topic, very nice white man at Emory.


(and don't hiss at me for creating a new profile without first pointing the finger at chillwilly, who by the way is probably black)




I think some posters may have gotten a ltille over sanctimonious with the OP and I also believe I can tell if a person is black or white on the phone with a fair degree of accuracy (though I probably wouldn't have mentioned it), but this is either ingenious flame or you are a straight biggot.

Not a flame, and not a biggot. Just someone who has a firm grasp on reality.

And you better watch what you write, because you are admitting to being a racist too (at least according to these people) by saying you "can tell if a person is black or white on the phone"...yep, you are an assumptive racist bastard all right...and might I add a hypocrite for letting the biggotry of chillywilly slide....it goes both ways you know.

Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Boyce Baylor on January 31, 2008, 12:40:45 PM
Maybe she was rude because you are a racist and could tell by your accent?  Hmm, sweet irony.   :P

To the OP, if it makes you feel better, what you wrote does not sound racist at all. Some people just like to walk around with a cactus up their ass, and a discussion board like this is the perfect place to find them. It is called a witch-hunt and you are the target right now. (and to those of you who are attacking the OP, people like you actually make racism worse. You should think about that before you throw up on people with your stupid comments)

OP, now you should realize, however, that if you do come down South, that blacks are rude to whites all the time for no reason other than the fact that you are white (and vice versa). I would not be surprised if that woman was rude to you simply because you sounded white, and you wanted a grant/financial aid. Where I am from, this is just reality so you better get used to it. I am not from TX either, but it is the same there as it is here, I am sure of it.

As for the topic, very nice white man at Emory.


(and don't hiss at me for creating a new profile without first pointing the finger at chillwilly, who by the way is probably black)




I think some posters may have gotten a ltille over sanctimonious with the OP and I also believe I can tell if a person is black or white on the phone with a fair degree of accuracy (though I probably wouldn't have mentioned it), but this is either ingenious flame or you are a straight biggot.

Not a flame, and not a biggot. Just someone who has a firm grasp on reality.

And you better watch what you write, because you are admitting to being a racist too (at least according to these people) by saying you "can tell if a person is black or white on the phone"...yep, you are an assumptive racist bastard all right...and might I add a hypocrite for letting the biggotry of chillywilly slide....it goes both ways you know.



Who's chillywilly?
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: VirusNY on January 31, 2008, 12:57:57 PM
Wow, what a turn in this thread...
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Boyce Baylor on January 31, 2008, 01:27:48 PM
Maybe she was rude because you are a racist and could tell by your accent?  Hmm, sweet irony.   :P

To the OP, if it makes you feel better, what you wrote does not sound racist at all. Some people just like to walk around with a cactus up their ass, and a discussion board like this is the perfect place to find them. It is called a witch-hunt and you are the target right now. (and to those of you who are attacking the OP, people like you actually make racism worse. You should think about that before you throw up on people with your stupid comments)

OP, now you should realize, however, that if you do come down South, that blacks are rude to whites all the time for no reason other than the fact that you are white (and vice versa). I would not be surprised if that woman was rude to you simply because you sounded white, and you wanted a grant/financial aid. Where I am from, this is just reality so you better get used to it. I am not from TX either, but it is the same there as it is here, I am sure of it.

As for the topic, very nice white man at Emory.


(and don't hiss at me for creating a new profile without first pointing the finger at chillwilly, who by the way is probably black)




I think some posters may have gotten a ltille over sanctimonious with the OP and I also believe I can tell if a person is black or white on the phone with a fair degree of accuracy (though I probably wouldn't have mentioned it), but this is either ingenious flame or you are a straight biggot.

I'm not denying that in some instances you certainly can. But the reverse certainly does not hold true.   I was just questioning the OP's reasoning behind saying black lady. The op's description detracts from his overall point.

we are in agreement.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Phineas on January 31, 2008, 02:35:41 PM
When did it become illegal to see color?  Good grief, here in a couple of years, we won't be permitted to say that the person on the other end of the phone sounded like a woman.  That's just blatantly insensitive. 
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: I can has lauskul! on January 31, 2008, 02:58:58 PM
This white dude at Howard was a total cock to me when I called, he said they would not send me a complete notice until I sent them an application.

This hillbilly chick at Appalachian sounded totally hot, hot, hot...even though she was not, not, not.

And this guy at Phoenix wanted to give me some oranges.  Or he wanted to turn me into an orange.  I don't know...I didn't bother reading the fine print.
No, I think it was Candy who wanted to give you some oranges. Or turn you into one so she could pluck you from the orange tree.

I dunno...it coulda been a lime...but there are probably worse fates that getting plucked by Candy.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: 12345 on January 31, 2008, 06:07:54 PM
Wow, has this thread ever gone "south"...(excuse the pun)...but seriously people. I am sincerely sorry to those who I offended, and it was not intentional. I've already expressed that. In some ways I am thankful this happened, because I can see that some people are much more sensitive to this issue than I am, and I need to be more careful. So let's just move on already. I mean really, the Civil war is over (and we won!), so let's leave it at that.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Susan B. Anthony on January 31, 2008, 06:14:53 PM
When did it become illegal to see color?  Good grief, here in a couple of years, we won't be permitted to say that the person on the other end of the phone sounded like a woman.  That's just blatantly insensitive. 

. . . I'm pretty sure no one said anything about illegality.

I could be wrong though. That happens occasionally.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Susan B. Anthony on January 31, 2008, 07:03:38 PM
When did it become illegal to see color?  Good grief, here in a couple of years, we won't be permitted to say that the person on the other end of the phone sounded like a woman.  That's just blatantly insensitive. 

. . . I'm pretty sure no one said anything about illegality.

I could be wrong though. That happens occasionally.

Well you ARE a womanz

Not a very good one though. I don't own an apron.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Susan B. Anthony on January 31, 2008, 07:11:58 PM
When did it become illegal to see color?  Good grief, here in a couple of years, we won't be permitted to say that the person on the other end of the phone sounded like a woman.  That's just blatantly insensitive. 

. . . I'm pretty sure no one said anything about illegality.

I could be wrong though. That happens occasionally.

Well you ARE a womanz

Not a very good one though. I don't own an apron.

You need one of those exandable ones for when your preggos and in the kitchen making me a samich

I'll start sewing one tomorrow.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Duke Admissions Committee on January 31, 2008, 08:18:10 PM

Very true. But then again you don't want to be rubbed the wrong way when you call a school up.


The white lady that i spoke with at Duke was very friendly. (Hint: lurking addcomms give her a raise) Hope this helps, i don't think the majority of the staff was white, so my description should help. ;)

Hi,

Thank you for calling our admissions office. Did you happen to catch her DU payroll ID # by any chance?

Thank you in advance,

Duke Admissions Committee
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Tegoyan on January 31, 2008, 11:10:41 PM

Very true. But then again you don't want to be rubbed the wrong way when you call a school up.


The white lady that i spoke with at Duke was very friendly. (Hint: lurking addcomms give her a raise) Hope this helps, i don't think the majority of the staff was white, so my description should help. ;)

Hi,

Thank you for calling our admissions office. Did you happen to catch her DU payroll ID # by any chance?

Thank you in advance,

Duke Admissions Committee

If your icon is a picture of the entire Duke admissions committee, please let us know if the one black woman speaks with an "African American accent" so that we better assist you in identifying people. Thanks.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Avicenna on February 01, 2008, 12:14:06 AM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

Why do people care so much about the friendliness of admissions and financial aid staffs?  If that is something that is going to affect their decision of where to study the law, they are far too frail to exist--period.  What?  Are they going to be spending countless hours hanging out with them?  You people are pathetic.

Very true. But then again you don't want to be rubbed the wrong way when you call a school up.


The white lady that i spoke with at Duke was very friendly. (Hint: lurking addcomms give her a raise) Hope this helps, i don't think the majority of the staff was white, so my description should help. ;)
Wait a minute....
All that talk about the op referring to a black lady at the admissions office got you bent out of shape, but then you go ahead and mention "white lady" at Duke. Now please tell all the users on this thread how that makes your argument consistent. I smell the sourness of a contradiction.

Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Susan B. Anthony on February 01, 2008, 12:17:47 AM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

Why do people care so much about the friendliness of admissions and financial aid staffs?  If that is something that is going to affect their decision of where to study the law, they are far too frail to exist--period.  What?  Are they going to be spending countless hours hanging out with them?  You people are pathetic.

Very true. But then again you don't want to be rubbed the wrong way when you call a school up.


The white lady that i spoke with at Duke was very friendly. (Hint: lurking addcomms give her a raise) Hope this helps, i don't think the majority of the staff was white, so my description should help. ;)
WAAAAAAAAit a minute....
All that talk about the op referring to a black lady at the admissions office got you bent out of shape, but then you go ahead and mention "white lady" at Duke. Now please tell all the users on this thread how that makes your argument consistent. I smell the sourness ofa contradiction.

Or sarcasm/mockery.

Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: 12345 on February 01, 2008, 12:21:21 AM

Very true. But then again you don't want to be rubbed the wrong way when you call a school up.


The white lady that i spoke with at Duke was very friendly. (Hint: lurking addcomms give her a raise) Hope this helps, i don't think the majority of the staff was white, so my description should help. ;)

Hi,

Thank you for calling our admissions office. Did you happen to catch her DU payroll ID # by any chance?

Thank you in advance,

Duke Admissions Committee

But this is very very funny...(I couldn't hold back...hahaha)  :D
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Domthelaw on February 01, 2008, 01:45:27 PM
A friend of mine had a nightmarish interaction with the FA office at Hastings... i.e. losing/misplacing her paperwork several times and blaming it on her - as a result of which she was forced to request several extensions for her tuition payments...

I can't be sure the color of her skin, but i have an inkling that she was a bit blue in her pigment...


Papa Smurf would not approve
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: sstar on February 01, 2008, 01:52:11 PM
A friend of mine had a nightmarish interaction with the FA office at Hastings... i.e. losing/misplacing her paperwork several times and blaming it on her - as a result of which she was forced to request several extensions for her tuition payments...

I can't be sure the color of her skin, but i have an inkling that she was a bit blue in her pigment...


Papa Smurf would not approve

LMAO!
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Matthew on February 02, 2008, 01:22:33 AM
I've found everyone to be really nice except NYU, where their office is either full of jerks or I'm getting the same a-hole every time I call.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Matthew on February 02, 2008, 01:00:09 PM
I've found everyone to be really nice except NYU, where their office is either full of jerks or I'm getting the same a-hole every time I call.

race?

I'm not sure, but if I had to guess IWould have to say reptilian.

I've found everyone to be really nice except NYU, where their office is either full of jerks or I'm getting the same a-hole every time I call.

Oh that's me, sorry my bad, I just get tired of all these crackers calling me about info that's already on our website.

Maybe if there actually was any info on the website, or if they sent out complete notices with some semblance of logic I wouldn't need to call.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: TJCCARDCO on February 08, 2008, 05:45:07 PM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

How do you know she's black?  And why is her race in any way relevant?

It is relevant...but not because she is black/white/(pink or neon green...honestly,a person's color doesn't matter to me. I don't think people should be given benefits because of race nor should they be hurt in any way for being black (or being another URM) either...I think people are equal)...

But, I also think people should be responsible for their words/actions and so I simply said that she is black to identify her as much as possible. My guess is there are only a handful of people who work in the UT financial aid office, and if by some off chance her boss likes to troll LSD during admission season, I'll bet he/she could identify her...in addition to this maybe other students will not take her put downs to heart if they know she is doing it to others too.

LMAO. You can't be serious. How do you know she is black? Did she specifically tell you? Wouldn't it be more easier to "identify her as much as possible" by telling everyone the date, time, and the particular department you called? Why alert adcomms in such an indirect way? An anomous e-mail would surely get your point across.

She was rude enough that I was actually contemplating taking it that far...and I still might. But as for being unable to identify that she was black...YOU can't be serious...she had a very thick African American accent, and to suggest that a normal human being in our society can't identify someone's color by that is ridiculous...have you ever heard a Chinese accent? What about an East Indian accent? Is it racist to assume that you are taking to a Chinese person or an East Indian person when they speak in that way, or does someone have to specifically tell you what race they are in order for you to know....(this is a bunch of politically correct BS and you know it...everyone does).

I agree with you 100%
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: LegallyAccepted on February 08, 2008, 05:54:48 PM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

How do you know she's black?  And why is her race in any way relevant?

It is relevant...but not because she is black/white/(pink or neon green...honestly,a person's color doesn't matter to me. I don't think people should be given benefits because of race nor should they be hurt in any way for being black (or being another URM) either...I think people are equal)...

But, I also think people should be responsible for their words/actions and so I simply said that she is black to identify her as much as possible. My guess is there are only a handful of people who work in the UT financial aid office, and if by some off chance her boss likes to troll LSD during admission season, I'll bet he/she could identify her...in addition to this maybe other students will not take her put downs to heart if they know she is doing it to others too.

LMAO. You can't be serious. How do you know she is black? Did she specifically tell you? Wouldn't it be more easier to "identify her as much as possible" by telling everyone the date, time, and the particular department you called? Why alert adcomms in such an indirect way? An anomous e-mail would surely get your point across.

She was rude enough that I was actually contemplating taking it that far...and I still might. But as for being unable to identify that she was black...YOU can't be serious...she had a very thick African American accent, and to suggest that a normal human being in our society can't identify someone's color by that is ridiculous...have you ever heard a Chinese accent? What about an East Indian accent? Is it racist to assume that you are taking to a Chinese person or an East Indian person when they speak in that way, or does someone have to specifically tell you what race they are in order for you to know....(this is a bunch of politically correct BS and you know it...everyone does).

I agree with you 100%

LMAO at the SORRY attorneys you two will make.  LOL.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: LegallyAccepted on February 08, 2008, 06:13:58 PM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

How do you know she's black?  And why is her race in any way relevant?

It is relevant...but not because she is black/white/(pink or neon green...honestly,a person's color doesn't matter to me. I don't think people should be given benefits because of race nor should they be hurt in any way for being black (or being another URM) either...I think people are equal)...

But, I also think people should be responsible for their words/actions and so I simply said that she is black to identify her as much as possible. My guess is there are only a handful of people who work in the UT financial aid office, and if by some off chance her boss likes to troll LSD during admission season, I'll bet he/she could identify her...in addition to this maybe other students will not take her put downs to heart if they know she is doing it to others too.

LMAO. You can't be serious. How do you know she is black? Did she specifically tell you? Wouldn't it be more easier to "identify her as much as possible" by telling everyone the date, time, and the particular department you called? Why alert adcomms in such an indirect way? An anomous e-mail would surely get your point across.

She was rude enough that I was actually contemplating taking it that far...and I still might. But as for being unable to identify that she was black...YOU can't be serious...she had a very thick African American accent, and to suggest that a normal human being in our society can't identify someone's color by that is ridiculous...have you ever heard a Chinese accent? What about an East Indian accent? Is it racist to assume that you are taking to a Chinese person or an East Indian person when they speak in that way, or does someone have to specifically tell you what race they are in order for you to know....(this is a bunch of politically correct BS and you know it...everyone does).

I agree with you 100%

LMAO at the SORRY attorneys you two will make.  LOL.

Why's that? Because, we aren't up to your standards? What are you the standards police? It's really not a matter of whether we'll be good attorneys, good people, maybe a different story. All of this bull about whether someones black or white or yellow doesn't really matter. Categorizing them as such is not that big of a deal, I just wrote a paper for school on MLK, and I wrote the "african-americans" as NEGROES, because just 44 odd years ago, thats what they were called. It's not like, I'm racist. But, if I'm telling a story, I don't go..well the guy, i'd say the white guy, the black guy, the indian guy, the chinese guy, whoever it may be. I'm from New York, end of story.

It has nothing to do with MY standards, because believe me, you are FAR beneath them.  It has to do with the standards of America 2008, the country and year we presently live in.  It is a matter of whether or not you will be good attorneys, because good attorneys should not practice this type of language.  And for you to bring MLK into this situation, shows the lack of ethics and morals you have.  Another reason you will not make a good attorney.  Race should not have been a factor in his story.  We have already talked to him about this, and he understands.  Your lack of compassion, understanding, and wisdom, are three more reasons of why you will not make a good attorney.  It matters not where you are from, but where you are going.  And America is moving into a new place, without you and others like you.  There is no possible way to determine ANY race over the phone!  And for you to agree with him for saying that, shows your ignorance even more.  Another reason which shows why you will not make a good attorney.  I am happy for this reason that I will be going into the practice of law.  Hopefully one day, I will be suing you. 
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: TJCCARDCO on February 08, 2008, 06:30:18 PM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

How do you know she's black?  And why is her race in any way relevant?

It is relevant...but not because she is black/white/(pink or neon green...honestly,a person's color doesn't matter to me. I don't think people should be given benefits because of race nor should they be hurt in any way for being black (or being another URM) either...I think people are equal)...

But, I also think people should be responsible for their words/actions and so I simply said that she is black to identify her as much as possible. My guess is there are only a handful of people who work in the UT financial aid office, and if by some off chance her boss likes to troll LSD during admission season, I'll bet he/she could identify her...in addition to this maybe other students will not take her put downs to heart if they know she is doing it to others too.

LMAO. You can't be serious. How do you know she is black? Did she specifically tell you? Wouldn't it be more easier to "identify her as much as possible" by telling everyone the date, time, and the particular department you called? Why alert adcomms in such an indirect way? An anomous e-mail would surely get your point across.

She was rude enough that I was actually contemplating taking it that far...and I still might. But as for being unable to identify that she was black...YOU can't be serious...she had a very thick African American accent, and to suggest that a normal human being in our society can't identify someone's color by that is ridiculous...have you ever heard a Chinese accent? What about an East Indian accent? Is it racist to assume that you are taking to a Chinese person or an East Indian person when they speak in that way, or does someone have to specifically tell you what race they are in order for you to know....(this is a bunch of politically correct BS and you know it...everyone does).

I agree with you 100%

LMAO at the SORRY attorneys you two will make.  LOL.

Why's that? Because, we aren't up to your standards? What are you the standards police? It's really not a matter of whether we'll be good attorneys, good people, maybe a different story. All of this bull about whether someones black or white or yellow doesn't really matter. Categorizing them as such is not that big of a deal, I just wrote a paper for school on MLK, and I wrote the "african-americans" as NEGROES, because just 44 odd years ago, thats what they were called. It's not like, I'm racist. But, if I'm telling a story, I don't go..well the guy, i'd say the white guy, the black guy, the indian guy, the chinese guy, whoever it may be. I'm from New York, end of story.

It has nothing to do with MY standards, because believe me, you are FAR beneath them.  It has to do with the standards of America 2008, the country and year we presently live in.  It is a matter of whether or not you will be good attorneys, because good attorneys should not practice this type of language.  And for you to bring MLK into this situation, shows the lack of ethics and morals you have.  Another reason you will not make a good attorney.  Race should not have been a factor in his story.  We have already talked to him about this, and he understands.  Your lack of compassion, understanding, and wisdom, are three more reasons of why you will not make a good attorney.  It matters not where you are from, but where you are going.  And America is moving into a new place, without you and others like you.  There is no possible way to determine ANY race over the phone!  And for you to agree with him for saying that, shows your ignorance even more.  Another reason which shows why you will not make a good attorney.  I am happy for this reason that I will be going into the practice of law.  Hopefully one day, I will be suing you. 

LMFAO. What a joke that is. How do you know where I am? How do u know what I think? The lack of morals or ethics? Great. So, because I am in a inter-racial relationship for the past 2 1/2 years, makes my persona lack ethics, values and the ability to be a good attorney? Hmm..I'd say #1 you don't know anything about me. I'd also say #2 it makes me more likely to understand exactly what is going on in present day 2008 (at least in race relations). I wasn't comparing it to the times of MLK, you moron, I was simply stating that even him, the biggest advocate for equality, described people by people of color and by people that were white...makes it socially acceptable in my mind. There's nothing that I said that was racist, there's nothing that I said that was wrong. I agreed that it was OKAY for him to say that a lady was black, if she's black, she's black. If I'm white and jewish, which I am, then I'm white and jewish. I really do not see how this has anything to do with ethics, values or moral fiber.

And your next reference. My lack of wisdom? Get real. I'm so glad that you could make such a distinction based on one post in a forum, you must be a modern day Socrates.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: LegallyAccepted on February 08, 2008, 06:37:08 PM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

How do you know she's black?  And why is her race in any way relevant?

It is relevant...but not because she is black/white/(pink or neon green...honestly,a person's color doesn't matter to me. I don't think people should be given benefits because of race nor should they be hurt in any way for being black (or being another URM) either...I think people are equal)...

But, I also think people should be responsible for their words/actions and so I simply said that she is black to identify her as much as possible. My guess is there are only a handful of people who work in the UT financial aid office, and if by some off chance her boss likes to troll LSD during admission season, I'll bet he/she could identify her...in addition to this maybe other students will not take her put downs to heart if they know she is doing it to others too.

LMAO. You can't be serious. How do you know she is black? Did she specifically tell you? Wouldn't it be more easier to "identify her as much as possible" by telling everyone the date, time, and the particular department you called? Why alert adcomms in such an indirect way? An anomous e-mail would surely get your point across.

She was rude enough that I was actually contemplating taking it that far...and I still might. But as for being unable to identify that she was black...YOU can't be serious...she had a very thick African American accent, and to suggest that a normal human being in our society can't identify someone's color by that is ridiculous...have you ever heard a Chinese accent? What about an East Indian accent? Is it racist to assume that you are taking to a Chinese person or an East Indian person when they speak in that way, or does someone have to specifically tell you what race they are in order for you to know....(this is a bunch of politically correct BS and you know it...everyone does).

I agree with you 100%

LMAO at the SORRY attorneys you two will make.  LOL.

Why's that? Because, we aren't up to your standards? What are you the standards police? It's really not a matter of whether we'll be good attorneys, good people, maybe a different story. All of this bull about whether someones black or white or yellow doesn't really matter. Categorizing them as such is not that big of a deal, I just wrote a paper for school on MLK, and I wrote the "african-americans" as NEGROES, because just 44 odd years ago, thats what they were called. It's not like, I'm racist. But, if I'm telling a story, I don't go..well the guy, i'd say the white guy, the black guy, the indian guy, the chinese guy, whoever it may be. I'm from New York, end of story.

It has nothing to do with MY standards, because believe me, you are FAR beneath them.  It has to do with the standards of America 2008, the country and year we presently live in.  It is a matter of whether or not you will be good attorneys, because good attorneys should not practice this type of language.  And for you to bring MLK into this situation, shows the lack of ethics and morals you have.  Another reason you will not make a good attorney.  Race should not have been a factor in his story.  We have already talked to him about this, and he understands.  Your lack of compassion, understanding, and wisdom, are three more reasons of why you will not make a good attorney.  It matters not where you are from, but where you are going.  And America is moving into a new place, without you and others like you.  There is no possible way to determine ANY race over the phone!  And for you to agree with him for saying that, shows your ignorance even more.  Another reason which shows why you will not make a good attorney.  I am happy for this reason that I will be going into the practice of law.  Hopefully one day, I will be suing you. 

LMFAO. What a joke that is. How do you know where I am? How do u know what I think? The lack of morals or ethics? Great. So, because I am in a inter-racial relationship for the past 2 1/2 years, makes my persona lack ethics, values and the ability to be a good attorney? Hmm..I'd say #1 you don't know anything about me. I'd also say #2 it makes me more likely to understand exactly what is going on in present day 2008 (at least in race relations). I wasn't comparing it to the times of MLK, you moron, I was simply stating that even him, the biggest advocate for equality, described people by people of color and by people that were white...makes it socially acceptable in my mind. There's nothing that I said that was racist, there's nothing that I said that was wrong. I agreed that it was OKAY for him to say that a lady was black, if she's black, she's black. If I'm white and jewish, which I am, then I'm white and jewish. I really do not see how this has anything to do with ethics, values or moral fiber.

And your next reference. My lack of wisdom? Get real. I'm so glad that you could make such a distinction based on one post in a forum, you must be a modern day Socrates.

I don't need to know specifics about you because everything you have posted here shows me the lack of character you have.  Apparantly you did not appropriately express yourself or what you meant by mentioning the GREAT Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.  That's something you should have learned in middle school.  I could care less what type of "relationship" you are in if you do not understand the basics of dealing with other people. I didn't say you were racist, just like i didn't say the original poster was a racist.  I did warn him, as I am doing you, that some people will take the comments as racist.  That poster apologized after I and others showed him that there was no reason to even mention the ladies race.  #1 No way to confirm or deny.  #2 it played NO necessary part in the story.  Read the entire thread sweetheart before you make assumptions that you know nothing about. You are advocating for a person who apologized for his comments.  How ignorant.  And that is all!
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Susan B. Anthony on February 08, 2008, 06:40:10 PM
I wasn't comparing it to the times of MLK, you moron, I was simply stating that even him, the biggest advocate for equality, described people by people of color and by people that were white...makes it socially acceptable in my mind.

There's a major difference between talking about a person's race or ethnicity in the context of a struggle for civil rights and in the context of talking about someone who works in an office who pissed you off.

Try again, thanks. (Actually, I'd prefer that you didn't try again)
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: TJCCARDCO on February 08, 2008, 06:42:49 PM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

How do you know she's black?  And why is her race in any way relevant?

It is relevant...but not because she is black/white/(pink or neon green...honestly,a person's color doesn't matter to me. I don't think people should be given benefits because of race nor should they be hurt in any way for being black (or being another URM) either...I think people are equal)...

But, I also think people should be responsible for their words/actions and so I simply said that she is black to identify her as much as possible. My guess is there are only a handful of people who work in the UT financial aid office, and if by some off chance her boss likes to troll LSD during admission season, I'll bet he/she could identify her...in addition to this maybe other students will not take her put downs to heart if they know she is doing it to others too.

LMAO. You can't be serious. How do you know she is black? Did she specifically tell you? Wouldn't it be more easier to "identify her as much as possible" by telling everyone the date, time, and the particular department you called? Why alert adcomms in such an indirect way? An anomous e-mail would surely get your point across.

She was rude enough that I was actually contemplating taking it that far...and I still might. But as for being unable to identify that she was black...YOU can't be serious...she had a very thick African American accent, and to suggest that a normal human being in our society can't identify someone's color by that is ridiculous...have you ever heard a Chinese accent? What about an East Indian accent? Is it racist to assume that you are taking to a Chinese person or an East Indian person when they speak in that way, or does someone have to specifically tell you what race they are in order for you to know....(this is a bunch of politically correct BS and you know it...everyone does).

I agree with you 100%

LMAO at the SORRY attorneys you two will make.  LOL.

Why's that? Because, we aren't up to your standards? What are you the standards police? It's really not a matter of whether we'll be good attorneys, good people, maybe a different story. All of this bull about whether someones black or white or yellow doesn't really matter. Categorizing them as such is not that big of a deal, I just wrote a paper for school on MLK, and I wrote the "african-americans" as NEGROES, because just 44 odd years ago, thats what they were called. It's not like, I'm racist. But, if I'm telling a story, I don't go..well the guy, i'd say the white guy, the black guy, the indian guy, the chinese guy, whoever it may be. I'm from New York, end of story.

It has nothing to do with MY standards, because believe me, you are FAR beneath them.  It has to do with the standards of America 2008, the country and year we presently live in.  It is a matter of whether or not you will be good attorneys, because good attorneys should not practice this type of language.  And for you to bring MLK into this situation, shows the lack of ethics and morals you have.  Another reason you will not make a good attorney.  Race should not have been a factor in his story.  We have already talked to him about this, and he understands.  Your lack of compassion, understanding, and wisdom, are three more reasons of why you will not make a good attorney.  It matters not where you are from, but where you are going.  And America is moving into a new place, without you and others like you.  There is no possible way to determine ANY race over the phone!  And for you to agree with him for saying that, shows your ignorance even more.  Another reason which shows why you will not make a good attorney.  I am happy for this reason that I will be going into the practice of law.  Hopefully one day, I will be suing you. 

LMFAO. What a joke that is. How do you know where I am? How do u know what I think? The lack of morals or ethics? Great. So, because I am in a inter-racial relationship for the past 2 1/2 years, makes my persona lack ethics, values and the ability to be a good attorney? Hmm..I'd say #1 you don't know anything about me. I'd also say #2 it makes me more likely to understand exactly what is going on in present day 2008 (at least in race relations). I wasn't comparing it to the times of MLK, you moron, I was simply stating that even him, the biggest advocate for equality, described people by people of color and by people that were white...makes it socially acceptable in my mind. There's nothing that I said that was racist, there's nothing that I said that was wrong. I agreed that it was OKAY for him to say that a lady was black, if she's black, she's black. If I'm white and jewish, which I am, then I'm white and jewish. I really do not see how this has anything to do with ethics, values or moral fiber.

And your next reference. My lack of wisdom? Get real. I'm so glad that you could make such a distinction based on one post in a forum, you must be a modern day Socrates.

I don't need to know specifics about you because everything you have posted here shows me the lack of character you have.  Apparantly you did not appropriately express yourself or what you meant by mentioning the GREAT Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.  That's something you should have learned in middle school.  I could care less what type of "relationship" you are in if you do not understand the basics of dealing with other people. I didn't say you were racist, just like i didn't say the original poster was a racist.  I did warn him, as I am doing you, that some people will take the comments as racist.  That poster apologized after I and others showed him that there was no reason to even mention the ladies race.  #1 No way to confirm or deny.  #2 it played NO necessary part in the story.  Read the entire thread sweetheart before you make assumptions that you know nothing about. You are advocating for a person who apologized for his comments.  How ignorant.  And that is all!

Actually, I didn't care so much about it, as much as I can't believe people were getting on him. The part I agreed with him about was it being politically correct. Calling me sweetheart? What is that sexual harassment? Ooooooh...why did you have to say sweetheart? Huh? Why?

Dealing with people? Wow. I am highly respected in my community, and my school It wasn't racist. It cannot be misconstrued as racist, either. So, now my character has come into play, but since I sent you back rebuttals for why your comments on wisdom, values and morals didn't even come into play in one forum post, now you go to character? Do you even know what any of these words mean, or are you just trying to advocate something for the hell of advocating something? (let's stand behind the posters because I think they are right!)

Apparently in all of your great wisdom, you didn't learn how to spell apparently as well. But, thanks for playing.

Save your fingers for typing...and go write a book about how character is built. Send me a copy if you ever get finished because, I'm still clueless on how to gain character points.

Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: TJCCARDCO on February 08, 2008, 06:44:12 PM
I wasn't comparing it to the times of MLK, you moron, I was simply stating that even him, the biggest advocate for equality, described people by people of color and by people that were white...makes it socially acceptable in my mind.

There's a major difference between talking about a person's race or ethnicity in the context of a struggle for civil rights and in the context of talking about someone who works in an office who pissed you off.

Try again, thanks. (Actually, I'd prefer that you didn't try again)

To me, it really didn't sound like he said "mean black person," it sounded like he said "black lady." Pretty sure that even after the "struggle," people are still called by their race all the time. Why on law school applications do you bubble in African-American or Caucasian? I mean, if race really wasn't an issue in modern day life and everyone was walking through life being clear as you people would make the common person think, don't you think they wouldn't ask these things? Why even make stats based on how many people who are black or are white or are yellow in statistics? Why? I understand that they want to have minorities, because there are organizations such as the NAACP, and such that want equal rights for minorities, and that they should have (equal rights), but why bother keeping statistics if we are clear and race doesn't matter?

And it makes me a bad person to say anything about it? Get real.

But, it's neither here nor there, you guys are right and i am wrong right? Because, no matter what I say, you guys are going to misconstrue what I say and turn it into your own fantasy. I'm just going to go over...here now...
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Susan B. Anthony on February 08, 2008, 06:45:52 PM
I wasn't comparing it to the times of MLK, you moron, I was simply stating that even him, the biggest advocate for equality, described people by people of color and by people that were white...makes it socially acceptable in my mind.

There's a major difference between talking about a person's race or ethnicity in the context of a struggle for civil rights and in the context of talking about someone who works in an office who pissed you off.

Try again, thanks. (Actually, I'd prefer that you didn't try again)

To me, it really didn't sound like he said "mean black person," it sounded like he said "black lady." But, it's neither here nor there, you guys are right and i am wrong right? Because, no matter what I say, you guys are going to misconstrue what I say and turn it into your own fantasy. I'm just going to go over...here now...

I have no idea what point you're trying to make.

So carry on being respected in your community, or whatevs.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: LegallyAccepted on February 08, 2008, 06:49:04 PM
Ok, so let's hear the bad experiences...(also if you want to share some of the good ones too you can)

For me, I talked to some black lady on the phone at the University of Texas today in the financial aid department...one of the rudest people I have EVER talked to in a "professional" environment. I was simply asking for some very general information about their scholarships, and she interrupted me several times and was very belittling in what she said...I never gave her my name so I almost told her off, but then decided that it wasn't worth it...but now I'm definitely leaning away from Texas and towards either Vandy or a lower T14 after that experience...honestly, she was rude enough, that if I could get her fired I would try.

So what are some of the other bad schools out there?

For a good one, Cornell has some very nice people working there...so far they have been the best I've experience so far.

How do you know she's black?  And why is her race in any way relevant?

It is relevant...but not because she is black/white/(pink or neon green...honestly,a person's color doesn't matter to me. I don't think people should be given benefits because of race nor should they be hurt in any way for being black (or being another URM) either...I think people are equal)...

But, I also think people should be responsible for their words/actions and so I simply said that she is black to identify her as much as possible. My guess is there are only a handful of people who work in the UT financial aid office, and if by some off chance her boss likes to troll LSD during admission season, I'll bet he/she could identify her...in addition to this maybe other students will not take her put downs to heart if they know she is doing it to others too.

LMAO. You can't be serious. How do you know she is black? Did she specifically tell you? Wouldn't it be more easier to "identify her as much as possible" by telling everyone the date, time, and the particular department you called? Why alert adcomms in such an indirect way? An anomous e-mail would surely get your point across.

She was rude enough that I was actually contemplating taking it that far...and I still might. But as for being unable to identify that she was black...YOU can't be serious...she had a very thick African American accent, and to suggest that a normal human being in our society can't identify someone's color by that is ridiculous...have you ever heard a Chinese accent? What about an East Indian accent? Is it racist to assume that you are taking to a Chinese person or an East Indian person when they speak in that way, or does someone have to specifically tell you what race they are in order for you to know....(this is a bunch of politically correct BS and you know it...everyone does).

I agree with you 100%

LMAO at the SORRY attorneys you two will make.  LOL.

Why's that? Because, we aren't up to your standards? What are you the standards police? It's really not a matter of whether we'll be good attorneys, good people, maybe a different story. All of this bull about whether someones black or white or yellow doesn't really matter. Categorizing them as such is not that big of a deal, I just wrote a paper for school on MLK, and I wrote the "african-americans" as NEGROES, because just 44 odd years ago, thats what they were called. It's not like, I'm racist. But, if I'm telling a story, I don't go..well the guy, i'd say the white guy, the black guy, the indian guy, the chinese guy, whoever it may be. I'm from New York, end of story.

It has nothing to do with MY standards, because believe me, you are FAR beneath them.  It has to do with the standards of America 2008, the country and year we presently live in.  It is a matter of whether or not you will be good attorneys, because good attorneys should not practice this type of language.  And for you to bring MLK into this situation, shows the lack of ethics and morals you have.  Another reason you will not make a good attorney.  Race should not have been a factor in his story.  We have already talked to him about this, and he understands.  Your lack of compassion, understanding, and wisdom, are three more reasons of why you will not make a good attorney.  It matters not where you are from, but where you are going.  And America is moving into a new place, without you and others like you.  There is no possible way to determine ANY race over the phone!  And for you to agree with him for saying that, shows your ignorance even more.  Another reason which shows why you will not make a good attorney.  I am happy for this reason that I will be going into the practice of law.  Hopefully one day, I will be suing you. 

LMFAO. What a joke that is. How do you know where I am? How do u know what I think? The lack of morals or ethics? Great. So, because I am in a inter-racial relationship for the past 2 1/2 years, makes my persona lack ethics, values and the ability to be a good attorney? Hmm..I'd say #1 you don't know anything about me. I'd also say #2 it makes me more likely to understand exactly what is going on in present day 2008 (at least in race relations). I wasn't comparing it to the times of MLK, you moron, I was simply stating that even him, the biggest advocate for equality, described people by people of color and by people that were white...makes it socially acceptable in my mind. There's nothing that I said that was racist, there's nothing that I said that was wrong. I agreed that it was OKAY for him to say that a lady was black, if she's black, she's black. If I'm white and jewish, which I am, then I'm white and jewish. I really do not see how this has anything to do with ethics, values or moral fiber.

And your next reference. My lack of wisdom? Get real. I'm so glad that you could make such a distinction based on one post in a forum, you must be a modern day Socrates.

I don't need to know specifics about you because everything you have posted here shows me the lack of character you have.  Apparantly you did not appropriately express yourself or what you meant by mentioning the GREAT Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.  That's something you should have learned in middle school.  I could care less what type of "relationship" you are in if you do not understand the basics of dealing with other people. I didn't say you were racist, just like i didn't say the original poster was a racist.  I did warn him, as I am doing you, that some people will take the comments as racist.  That poster apologized after I and others showed him that there was no reason to even mention the ladies race.  #1 No way to confirm or deny.  #2 it played NO necessary part in the story.  Read the entire thread sweetheart before you make assumptions that you know nothing about. You are advocating for a person who apologized for his comments.  How ignorant.  And that is all!

Actually, I didn't care so much about it, as much as I can't believe people were getting on him. The part I agreed with him about was it being politically correct. Calling me sweetheart? What is that sexual harassment? Ooooooh...why did you have to say sweetheart? Huh? Why?

Dealing with people? Wow. I am highly respected in my community, and my school It wasn't racist. It cannot be misconstrued as racist, either. So, now my character has come into play, but since I sent you back rebuttals for why your comments on wisdom, values and morals didn't even come into play in one forum post, now you go to character? Do you even know what any of these words mean, or are you just trying to advocate something for the hell of advocating something? (let's stand behind the posters because I think they are right!)

Apparently in all of your great wisdom, you didn't learn how to spell apparently as well. But, thanks for playing.

Save your fingers for typing...and go write a book about how character is built. Send me a copy if you ever get finished because, I'm still clueless on how to gain character points.



As I stated before, your wisdom, values, morals, AND character are all poor.  I know exactly what they mean, hence me using them to tell you that you lack them.  I could care less what people in your community think of you, for all I know you are from Forsyth, GA.  And that would not help your argument AT ALL!  I will send you that book, and one to your neigbors, because apparently, all of ya'll need it!  
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: TJCCARDCO on February 08, 2008, 06:50:10 PM
seriously, u people are crazy.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: The Knight on February 08, 2008, 06:56:57 PM
Why hasn't anyone dropped the N-bomb yet?  

Also, one of the people at Carolina's adcomm is African-American AND homosexual (I asked).

Looking to make a mountain out of a mole hill?  Chew on them apples!
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: TJCCARDCO on February 08, 2008, 07:20:03 PM
google "some black lady", look at how that phrase is used in each of the results on the first 2 pages, and i think you'll see where they're coming from.

I put in some black lady and got "black madonna" and a band called black ladies.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: TJCCARDCO on February 09, 2008, 02:24:53 AM
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22some+black+lady%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


got a weird youtube video and some art...failing to make a connection.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Matthew on February 09, 2008, 03:31:06 AM
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22some+black+lady%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


got a weird youtube video and some art...failing to make a connection.

Look at the sixth result.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: TJCCARDCO on February 09, 2008, 10:55:45 AM
gotcha..i brought this up to a few of my friends last night, some of whom are of different races (but it doesnt matter). A few agreed with you guys, so im just going to leave this alone..obviously this is a sensitive subject and I wasnt trying to turn it into a war of who's right and who's wrong.

--end

Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: minarets on February 09, 2008, 09:04:51 PM
There was no reason at all to mention race in the OP.  All this bull about wanting the adcomm to be able to identify this woman doesn't make any sense, because if that is what the OP really wanted, then he would have written to the admissions office, or he would have called them, or gone through any of the normal channels of filing a complaint.

Whether the OP is or is not a racist isn't really at issue here. Likewise the issue isn't whether it's PC to identify someone as black. The issue is that it's obvious the OP would not have mentioned race if the woman was white. Whatever your actual reasoning was behind it, OP, it wasn't appropriate and you shouldn't be surprised that you came off as a racist.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: dashrashi on February 09, 2008, 09:38:42 PM
There was no reason at all to mention race in the OP.  All this bull about wanting the adcomm to be able to identify this woman doesn't make any sense, because if that is what the OP really wanted, then he would have written to the admissions office, or he would have called them, or gone through any of the normal channels of filing a complaint.

Whether the OP is or is not a racist isn't really at issue here. Likewise the issue isn't whether it's PC to identify someone as black. The issue is that it's obvious the OP would not have mentioned race if the woman was white. Whatever your actual reasoning was behind it, OP, it wasn't appropriate and you shouldn't be surprised that you came off as a racist.

And, OP, don't take this as license to come back here and be all grouchy over people continuing to harp on you. It's the nature of the beast. You don't like it, don't post. Or at least redact.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: studymaster on November 20, 2008, 11:54:42 PM
There was no reason at all to mention race in the OP.  All this bull about wanting the adcomm to be able to identify this woman doesn't make any sense, because if that is what the OP really wanted, then he would have written to the admissions office, or he would have called them, or gone through any of the normal channels of filing a complaint.

Whether the OP is or is not a racist isn't really at issue here. Likewise the issue isn't whether it's PC to identify someone as black. The issue is that it's obvious the OP would not have mentioned race if the woman was white. Whatever your actual reasoning was behind it, OP, it wasn't appropriate and you shouldn't be surprised that you came off as a racist.

Okay twinkles, don't be soo hasty. His reason for wanting to identify that person is perfectly valid, ti is infact what I would do if I were warnign people about a bad adcomm. I would say whatI coudl to identify them, for example I would say if they were a man or a woman, now I didnt ask them a shrot survey on their gender identification, i listened to their voice. The fact that people take such great offense to him callign her black, but not to him calling her a woman shows exactly how silly you all are. You contest that label but not another, another that someone could use to discirimate, another that coudl indicate prejudice. The fact is the other label to me lends credence to the idea that OP was simply trying to help identify this person, this impolite inconsiderate person. If the person had a very high pitched voice or a jaunty english accent, would you have jumped down his throat when he mentioned that?

As to arguments you cannot tell a persons race by their voice with reasonable accuracy... get real.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Live Free or Die on November 21, 2008, 12:10:50 AM
You people should all find something better to do with your time. This is seriously the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard.
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: studymaster on November 21, 2008, 12:16:21 AM
You people should all find something better to do with your time. This is seriously the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard.
We sghould find somethign better do with our time.. and yet you read it.... interesting  :P ::) :P ::)
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: Live Free or Die on November 21, 2008, 03:30:19 PM
Looks like studymaster should work on his typing.

You're trying to trick me into arguing with you so you can get a rise out of me. Sorry, but it's not going to work.  ;)
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: wkjr on November 21, 2008, 04:10:55 PM
i had opened this thread in the hopes of finding some occasionally helpful information and some good juicy admissions gossip - imagine my (lack of) surprise to find pages and pages of shrill, pointless posturing - nicely done, lsd!
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: studymaster on November 21, 2008, 04:49:16 PM
Looks like studymaster should work on his typing.

Well if you cant attack the substance....
Title: Re: Which schools have rude admissions staff/financial aid staff...
Post by: iamluke20 on November 22, 2008, 11:59:43 AM
People from U of Miami have been very rude.  Part of the reason I am no longer applying there!