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How many MBE questions are you going to do total before the bar?

Total I am going to do betwen 600-800.  I have been doing 25 per day in the morning, reviewing explanations, and then doing essay stuff in the afternoon.  I did some in the beginning that were segregated by topic, but I didn't find those very helpful.  Sometime this week I may take a full practice test just to get a feel for the timing, although I have been doing them in roughly the right amount of time.

The reason I ask is because I read that some bar review courses recommend doing 2,500, and highly discourage doing only 1,200.  That just seems ridiculous, especially because I am scoring above average after having done only about 300.  I also feel like reading the explanations helps a great deal, and it would take four months to do 2,500 questions while reviewing explanations and studying for the essay portion. 

To me it just seems that these bar review courses are trying to capitalize on people's hysteria.

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Re: How many MBE questions are you going to do total before the bar?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2008, 08:35:15 AM »
If you haven't done a full day practice test of the full 200 questions, you should do that at least once...It gets to be very long and tiring, and you'll be in for a rude awakening the day of the real MBE if the most you've done at once has been 25.

But, outside of that, I do agree that the courses try to capitalize on people's hysteria.  That, or they want to cover their asses, so when people fail and try to blame it on an ineffective bar course, barbri, etc, just asks, "Well, did you do 12+ hours of studying and 300 MBE questions per day?  No?  Well, no wonder you failed!  You didn't follow the program!"     

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Re: How many MBE questions are you going to do total before the bar?
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2008, 09:25:10 AM »
Our Bar/Bri MBE reviewer also gave us a 1500 question goal or something like that.

My guess is that I'll have done about 600-800 as well.

Re: How many MBE questions are you going to do total before the bar?
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2008, 09:58:39 AM »
i've done the barbri self study.  to date i've done over 1200. 

Re: How many MBE questions are you going to do total before the bar?
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2008, 10:02:42 AM »
How long of a lunch break do you get?  The VA bar website doesn't specify anything on that.


I am trying to decide whether I should do a full day of MBE sometime this week, or split it up over two days and do essays in the after noon.

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Re: How many MBE questions are you going to do total before the bar?
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2008, 10:43:50 AM »
How long of a lunch break do you get?  The VA bar website doesn't specify anything on that.


I am trying to decide whether I should do a full day of MBE sometime this week, or split it up over two days and do essays in the after noon.

For the reason that I've already mentioned, I'd recommend doing it all in one day.  Two 3-hour sessions with a 1 or 1.5 hour break in between.  It will give you a better sense of how you react to the fatigue of reading through that many problems at once.  On the simulated MBE day for barbri, I actually did better on the 2nd set of 100 questions than the first, but by the time I got to question 150 or so, I was really struggling to maintain focus. 

To each his own, though, so do what you're comfortable with, but I think doing a "Full" MBE at least once is useful.  Your mind starts to wander, and that will affect to some extent your overall score.  I thought the essays would be worse, but going through that many MBE questions in one sitting is definitely tougher in my opinion.   (outside of that one day, though, I've been doing 20-50 questions per day.  I'll probably be doing 50 a day max from this point forward, finding my time better spent on reviewing the outlines because a lot of questions I get wrong are simply because I can't recall some nit-picky area of law). 

Re: How many MBE questions are you going to do total before the bar?
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2008, 11:01:34 AM »
I'm not going to do ANY MBE questions. Right now, the focus should be on learning as much of the law as you can so you can simply regurgitate it back to the examiners on the essays and to be able to recognize it on the MBE questions.

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Re: How many MBE questions are you going to do total before the bar?
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2008, 11:08:45 AM »
I'd say I'll probably have ended up doing around 1200 by the time its over. But...that's including 3 actual MBE's. (which means 600 were in a testing environment) So in reality, I'll have done only about 600 practice MBE questions outside of an actual test environment. (and 300 of those also include the initial 50 questions per MBE subject included in the PMBR course)

I've found that actually studying the material really hard, really paying attention to those lectures, and doing less questions, is a lot more productive than doing 50 mbe questions a day like pmbr recommended. I just took my second practice MBE this past weekend and I got a raw score of 144 out of 200. This translated into a 156.8 when scaled. Considering that Georgia only requires a 115 to get your essays and MPT graded, I'd say that I'm pretty much on target.

So yeah, I'll have done a lot of questions, but nothing really ridiculous like PMBR recommended.

In the end, I think Bar Bri (or your bar review course of choice) and PMBR just tell you to do a ridiculous amount of MBE questions so they can pull and CYA if you happen to fail the bar, and you didn't follow their "recommended approach."

Re: How many MBE questions are you going to do total before the bar?
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2008, 12:02:16 PM »
Budlaw, Mqt, and pickle: how many would you say you've done and reviewed an answer explanation?  Do you find it helpful to do them without looking at an explanation?

I find that most of the ones I am missing, I can't just look at the right answer and know why I missed it, I have to review an explanation. 

Re: How many MBE questions are you going to do total before the bar?
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2008, 12:23:31 PM »
Budlaw, Mqt, and pickle: how many would you say you've done and reviewed an answer explanation?  Do you find it helpful to do them without looking at an explanation?

I find that most of the ones I am missing, I can't just look at the right answer and know why I missed it, I have to review an explanation. 

i agree, i read the explanations of the ones i get wrong, and write out the rule if that was the reason i got it wrong.