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Current Law Students / Re: Why can't I find a job?
« on: March 06, 2008, 11:20:31 AM »
If you graduated in December and aren't taking the bar until July, they will question why you are waiting.  And, if you are asking for an associate position, they will also question why you are asking for an associates job when you are not eligible for that type of position.  If you are sending resumes looking for clerk positions that is one thing, but it sounds like you are looking for a position you aren't qualified for so most likely your resume has been filed in the garbage can, or the don't hire in the future file.

You have put yourself in a bad position by graduating in Dec. and waiting until July to take the bar.  I don't know about there, but in Texas it takes 3 months to get results back, which means the first week of November.  Why would an employer hire you in March and put in all that training to find out in November you failed and your out the door?  It really makes no sense.

Current Law Students / Re: Student Loan Interest Rates
« on: February 26, 2008, 09:56:42 AM »
Those are the going rates on Stafford loans at the moment.  The rates fluctuate between 3 and 8% at any given year.  When I was in undergrad the rate was 7.5% so I consolidated in a hurry when they dropped to 3%.

Your private loan rates are actually good rates.  It means that you and/or your co-signer have good credit.  They are typically much higher than that.

Current Law Students / Re: Spread The Word Before Tuesday
« on: February 05, 2008, 08:34:21 AM »

Yes, there is a definite need for change in our system and who runs our country, both executive and legislative branches.  However, voting in a totally unqualified person just because he isn't the "typical politician" is just insane.

This is such a ridiculous argument that I keep hearing that he doesn't have enough experience.  There is no experience that will prepare a person for being President of the US.  The job is so difficult and so unique that it is impossible to be adequately prepared.

Look at the other candidates:  Romney was a Governor, Huckabee a Governor, McCain a Senator, Hillary Clinton a Senator, Obama a Senator.  Insanely, the same people who supported Giuliani, whose experience was being a mayor, argued that Obama lacked experience.

None of the candidates have ever been President (and no, being First Lady does not equate to being President). 

I think Hillary Clinton would be a good president and I think its high time that a woman is elected to lead our country, but Hillary getting the nomination is an assurance that the Republicans will be in office again in 2009.  She is too polarizing a figure and with the likely victory of McCain on the other side, her lack of moderate support will ensure the Democrats defeat in November. 

Exactly where in my post did I say he was inexperienced?????  I said unqualified.  There is a big difference between these two words and you should know that.

Current Law Students / Re: PD/DA internships?
« on: February 04, 2008, 10:42:13 AM »
Jacy is correct in her it depends comment.  The county where my school is will only hire fresh out of law school if you interned for them specifically.  It is extremely competitive to get a job there because it is not only extremely good money, but the DA has been there forever and thus the office is very established and the attorneys are very happy there so they rarely leave.  Therefore, they can be very selective and will only hire someone they have already put time into, or already has experience. 

Other counties love seeing people that interned for them and it gives those students an edge.  Still others like to see an internship with a DA's office anywhere.  And of course, there are those counties where they don't care if you interned, they like something else about you.

And as always, connections always help.

As far as the cover letter goes.  NEVER send the same cover letter to more than one potential employer.  It's not professional and word does get around in the legal community that you are sending "stock" letters.

Current Law Students / Re: Spread The Word Before Tuesday
« on: February 04, 2008, 10:27:31 AM »
"i thought the beauty of this country was that we don't have dynasties, our founding fathers would want us to stand up against this sort of thing. they didn't die from 1776-1783 so that we as the heirs to their revolution could stand appathetic as the constitution has been ignored and violated the last 8 years, as well as having two families run this country."

Ok, didn't get past this statement.  Where did the founding fathers argue that there should not be any political dynasties?  There are two very early presidents that were father and son, The Adams'.  The two term limit on the president didn't come until 1951 with the 22nd Amendment.  So, if you are going to make a statement like this, you really should explain yourself because I, and I know many like me, will just stop when you make blanket statements that make no sense.

In addition, if you can not write a post that supports your candidate without talking negatively about the other, that doesn't say much about your candidate.

Yes, there is a definite need for change in our system and who runs our country, both executive and legislative branches.  However, voting in a totally unqualified person just because he isn't the "typical politician" is just insane.

Current Law Students / Re: Which bar review course?
« on: January 28, 2008, 09:49:40 AM »

I've decided to take BarBri and the PMBR 3-day - in my area the 3-day is held before BarBri starts and that seems a more comfortable arrangement for me - woul dnot want to take a 6-day workshop after BarBari...and then face the bar. Too much...

You have this backwards.  The 6 day workshop which is subject intensive is the week before barbri, and the 3 day review workshop is right after barbri.

I took the dry run of PMBR and it was excellent.  My prof at the school's bar prep course says that barbri is better for those of us that are not good at self study.  However, if you are good at self study, then micromash is just as good.  He highly recommends both PMBR and either Barbri or Micromash.  PMBR teaches you tricks to getting the right answer that you won't get anywhere else.

I talked to someone that took "pass your bar online" and she said it wasn't really worth it, to just do PMBR and Barbri.

Current Law Students / Re: Audio Recordings of Supreme Court Decisions
« on: January 17, 2008, 09:49:06 AM »
There may well be a demand for it.  Many people, like myself, are auditory learners and hearing it can help.  Plus, at my school, many students commute long distances (anywhere from one to two hours one way) to get to class and could listen to them while they drive to refresh their reading, or if they ran out of time, to use instead of reading.

I personally am not interested in them or helping create them, but I can see where it could be useful and people might want the service.

Current Law Students / Re: Public Defense Offices in Small Cities
« on: January 17, 2008, 09:44:01 AM »
It depends on if there is a law school that is "local" to them.  If there is a school close by, they probably had an intern or three that they will hire before you unless you can show them something really really good.  But, if there are no schools close by, the chances they had an intern are slimmer and then they have no comparison so your just as good as the next applicant.  It also depends on the economy of the area.  If there isn't much money around, then those jobs are likely full most of the time, if there is plenty of money for paid defense attorneys then you have a better shot at a job opening up.

Many places don't even have PD offices, they use court appointed lawyers because they don't like having PD offices or they can't afford to run them and it's cheaper to just pay private lawyers to take those cases. 

Moral of the story, investigate the area where you want to work and see what they look at.  If they have interns and look at them first, you need to intern there.  If not, stay at school and intern/take a job doing similar work to give them something to look at.

Current Law Students / Re: What do PDs and Prosecutors do after?
« on: January 17, 2008, 09:36:36 AM »
Anything they want to do.  The majority flip sides and do defense work and don't change fields because they only want to do criminal law.  But I worked with an ADA that became a clerk for a Federal Judge and then got a job in a civil law firm.  He is now back in prosecution in the Federal system because he hated the civil work.

And you can usually make the same or better money by doing defense work, but the two biggest reasons for the flip are simple.  1. They only did prosecution to learn the ropes before they went out to hang their shingle.  They weren't really wanting to be prosecutors.  and 2. when you hang your own shingle, you become your own boss.  You work how you want to, when you want (with the exception of court appearances that are set by the court) and handle your office the way you want.  No more following someone else's rules and punching a time clock.

I plan to be an ADA and can't see myself ever flipping sides.  But, if I did, I'd do it for the 2nd reason.  Being your own boss does sound appealing.

Current Law Students / Re: Thinking of quitting law school...
« on: January 10, 2008, 12:28:28 PM »
Completely depends on your goals.  I am absolutely miserable in school.  Have been from day one.  But, when I work in the DA's office I enjoy my work immensely.  In my previous job, when I went to court I had so much fun.  I asked my friends that are ADAs before I started school and they all said I would probably hate school, but it's one of those dues you just have to pay.  Just suffer through three years of hell and then you can have your dream job.

However, if your not sure you want to do the work, I don't know if the suffering would be worth it.  I would suggest you find a law firm and see if you can volunteer to help out.  Just hang around the office and see if the environment and the type of work they do is what interests you.  Of course better yet would be to work for them and get paid, but hey, if you really want to know you will volunteer.

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