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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UMiami vs. FIU
« on: August 06, 2009, 02:29:38 PM »
Thanks.  I got a kick out of the responses.  I should have learned better than to try to help.  I don't make six figures; very few first year lawyers do.  And you may be choking on those words when you graduate and realize that you didn't graduate in the top ten and only make five figures, and have three times the debt to pay. 
It is truly amazing the difference in peoples' views once they graduate.  We have a young lawyer division of the bar association here.  We get together for happy hours, etc.  It is amazing how many times people tell me they wish they went to a state school and weren't so in debt.  I only check this website every few months, and it always makes me chuckle.  Thanks for the laugh; talk to me when you graduate and pass the bar.  Until then, no offense, but you don't know jack.

As for posting my salary.  One day you may also realize that posting all your private information on the web is not the best idea.  There are some things that should be private.  The first thing I did when I started looking for work was to take down my facebook and myspace pages.  Believe it or not, the whole world doesn't need to know everything about you.  Whether or not my firm would check on line or not is not the issue.  They asked that my salary remain private when they hired me, and I am respecting their wishes.

I'm sure they meant a state school such as UF or FSU, not a school like FIU where the #1 kid in their class makes 5 figures lol. What happens if you don't finish in the top at FIU? LOL

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UMiami vs. FIU
« on: August 05, 2009, 07:25:23 PM »
iamhurricane, I hate to break it to you, but the odds of you finding a six figure job are not good AT ALL, even in a good economy. Let me guess, you bought into the salary stats that the school publishes? Or the idea that lawyers all make a lot of money? Especially since SMU is a "tier one" school? Those mid five figure jobs are only for the people at tier 2/3/4 schools right? Think again.

Also, the economy may not turn around in 3-4 years, at least in re: to big firm hiring. Keep in mind most big firm recruiting happens fall of your 2L year, so if the firms don't think things look good for the future, they're going to be cautious.

As for myself, I would have still gone to law school, but I never wanted to work at a big firm, and most non-big firm jobs do not approach six figures.

In a good economy I would have about a 25% chance. Not great odds definitely better than "not good at all". Besides, I'm banking on my connects to get me into sports law. I'm just sayin, I would never go to law school if doing "well" as in top 10 percent of your class can only get you a 40k-60k job. That's just crazy to me. You would be making more than that at whatever job you took out of undergrad after 3 years while working less hours.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UMiami vs. FIU
« on: August 05, 2009, 06:18:40 PM »
iamhurricane, where do you go to school?

I'm at a t14 and I can tell you that many "going to graduate soon" people at my school and at other top schools will be thankful if they can find a job that makes "mid five figures" in the current economy. Most students who haven't looked for a job or haven't seen what law is like outside of the big firms have no idea why kind of salaries are out there for most law grads.

To be fair, WKRUSE did very well in law school and might not have had the same results if he was middle or bottom half at FIU.

AND I still think knowing and meeting the right people (i.e. networking) is very important for those looking for a job outside of OCI, regardless of what rank your school is. If you're not at a top school or at the top of your class, chances of getting a job through OCI are practically non-existent.

If you knew how the economy would turn out 3 years ago would you have gone to law school? Probably not. If I didnt expect the economy to turn around by the time I graduate I wouldn't go to law school, period. I'm starting at SMU this fall. I'm in the part time program just in case the economy takes longer to recover, I can buy myself another year if needed. I can also transfer to full time if the economy turns around quickly like i predict.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UMiami vs. FIU
« on: August 05, 2009, 03:56:57 PM »
-sorry.  Not going to discuss salary on a public message board.  My firm would severly frown on that, and I'm not about to risk my job.

The bottom line is that going to FIU worked for me, helped me pass the bar, taught me how to be a good lawyer, and didn't in any way keep me from finding employment.  The bonus is that I owe a small fraction of what other young lawyers do, so my quality of life (home, travel, fun, etc.) is much easier to maintain.

1. you firm is not on law school discussion checking to see if people are posting salaries.

2. you haven't even named what firm you work for, so how the hell would they frown on "random nameless firm pays random attorney between 40-60k?? wtf

3. has extremely low salaries for their median, that doesnt tell us anything.

My guess is you make somewhere in the mid 5 figure rang  and don't want to admit it since your point was to show how going to FIU worked out. I for one would never go to law school to begin with if making a mid 5 figure salary was the best outcome.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: SMU 3L avaliable for any questions you guys have
« on: August 05, 2009, 07:51:40 AM »
I just got into SMU PT, and am wondering if you had any good advice about how to succeed at SMU academically, as well as how the employment prospects for your class are looking given the current state of the economy.

Hi there...looks like we are classmates. I too am in the PT Eve Prog at SMU...starting Fall09. Have you received any info. pscket in the mail from SMU abt oreintation, class schedule, first day assignments...nething?

Hey, I'm starting part time this fall as well. If you log onto SMU access, you will see your class schedule.

Hey, I'm sure most of you got the email from LSAC explaining the changes with the ethnicity portion. I was just wondering, since they break up "asian" to many subcategories, would I now be considered a URM if i picked a southeast asian country as opposed to Chinese or Korean?

UGA is in Athens, GA - a college town.

Anyway, I think UGA is a great deal for in-staters but a horrible deal if you're paying out of state tuition.

For your sake, I really hope the money at ASU is guaranteed. If so, that's a great deal and you should go there. ASU is not in Phoenix, it's in Tempe. That means you'll still have to figure out a way to move or commute to Phoenix for work during the summer.

FYI Tempe is just a suburb of Phoenix. From the law school to downtown Phoenix is like 15 mins. Mesa, Tempe, Scottsdale and Phoenix all mush togther there around 44th street and the airport. No need to move if you live in Tempe but get a job in Phoenix. But personally I would not live in Tempe, ASU (my UG) is a party school so anywhere near the school in Tenpe is going to be loud. East Phonix is good up near arcadia at about 44th and Camelback. I own a couple renatl houses there, might have a vacany if you want to rent a house with a pool. From my house at 32nd street and camelback it took me 10-12 mins to get to ASU. Same distance to downtown

Phoenix may be a bigger city than Atlanta population wise, but ATL has a much larger legal market.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: SMU 3L avaliable for any questions you guys have
« on: July 17, 2009, 11:11:52 AM »
I love how the OP comes here offering to take questions, then never answers any of them...

Transferring / Re: OCI of Death 2009
« on: July 17, 2009, 11:07:47 AM »
Yeah, the other one is one of two public law schools in the state. One is slightly better regarded than the one I am considering, but it is only a slight difference.

I know GW is a great school, but the more I learn, the more I second guess the debt. I think a school's reputation is important but I dont know how much that reputation is worth... Granted, there are some schools that you take a second mortgage on your house to attend...Harvard/NYU/Stanford/Duke...but GW? I just dont know...

Spit out the names of the public schools already, it is much easier and quicker to get advise that way. Not sure why you keep refering to them like its a secret what state you are from...

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: SMU Waitlist
« on: July 09, 2009, 03:02:50 PM »
Anyone want to buy my spot from me? :)

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