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Title: Quit law school and re-apply?
Post by: quitlawschool? on November 24, 2008, 10:22:49 PM
So I don't like my law school.  Assuming I can find a job, is it worth dropping out and re-applying for next year?  I've been told by my school that the date of matriculation can be backdated to a point where it looks like I never enrolled.  And it might be possible to defer. 

My stats aren't high though: with a 159 LSAT, it seems risky to give up enrollment at a mid-30s school where I'm paying in-state tuition, knowing how bad the job market is right now.  Any advice?
Title: Re: Quit law school and re-apply?
Post by: Ninja1 on November 25, 2008, 12:43:03 AM
School? Unless you're at Cooley or FL Coastal or something, I doubt that with a 159 you're at anywhere that bad. You probably just don't like law school and should move on.
Title: Re: Quit law school and re-apply?
Post by: "Legapp" Stands for "Legal Application" on November 25, 2008, 02:17:25 AM
We need more information about your specific dislikes to analyze whether it's a question of not liking LS or not liking YOUR LS.  If it's the latter, you should work your a** off to do well on your finals.... then get to work on your transfer apps. 
Title: Re: Quit law school and re-apply?
Post by: Dwigt on November 25, 2008, 07:18:31 AM
I agree with the previous posters.  I'd also add that if you really have an interest in being a lawyer after you graduate, that you stick it out for this year and try to transfer.  In the past, economic downturns have led to increased application levels, and if that happens again this year the admissions process could be much more competitive than last year.  You don't want to give up a spot at a top 30 school only to find out that there aren't any better options out there. 

On the other hand, if you don't do well on finals this semester, you probably won't be able to transfer anywhere so you'll be stuck. 
Title: Re: Quit law school and re-apply?
Post by: "Legapp" Stands for "Legal Application" on November 25, 2008, 10:01:56 AM

On the other hand, if you don't do well on finals this semester, you probably won't be able to transfer anywhere so you'll be stuck. 

Well, if it's just an issue of not liking the atmosphere/location/profs etc, the OP can try to transfer laterally even if s/he is at the median.  This is particularly good if his main issue relates in some way to location.
Title: Re: Quit law school and re-apply?
Post by: botbot on November 25, 2008, 10:18:01 AM
My stats aren't high though: with a 159 LSAT, it seems risky to give up enrollment at a mid-30s school where I'm paying in-state tuition, knowing how bad the job market is right now.  Any advice?

You would be an idiot to quit now.
Title: Re: Quit law school and re-apply?
Post by: quitlawschool? on November 26, 2008, 09:16:31 PM
Thanks guys.  I actually went to this school with the intent to transfer.  I know, it's stupid, as I'm learning that the grades are such a crapshoot.  But I did it because I was pretty sure I could.  And I know I have the intelligence to be at a T15-T25 school, which is where I wanted to be before I started law school.  I'm now at a Midwestern State school.  It's just not a good fit in terms of location (I've been living in this state for a few years now, and have not had good experiences) and activities.  If I finish my first year, do mediocre on the exams, logically it would make sense to stay for the last two years because the first year is the hardest.  I'm not willing to do that. So it's either transfer (which isn't a guarantee), or drop out now. 

The whole semester I've been obsessing about these two options to the extent that I haven't been focusing on my coursework t the extent that I need to.  Yeah, I know, not smart but that's just how miserable it's been.
Title: Re: Quit law school and re-apply?
Post by: Ninja1 on November 27, 2008, 12:26:05 AM
Thanks guys.  I actually went to this school with the intent to transfer.  I know, it's stupid, as I'm learning that the grades are such a crapshoot.  But I did it because I was pretty sure I could.  And I know I have the intelligence to be at a T15-T25 school, which is where I wanted to be before I started law school.  I'm now at a Midwestern State school.  It's just not a good fit in terms of location (I've been living in this state for a few years now, and have not had good experiences) and activities.  If I finish my first year, do mediocre on the exams, logically it would make sense to stay for the last two years because the first year is the hardest.  I'm not willing to do that. So it's either transfer (which isn't a guarantee), or drop out now. 

The whole semester I've been obsessing about these two options to the extent that I haven't been focusing on my coursework t the extent that I need to.  Yeah, I know, not smart but that's just how miserable it's been.

Law school seems to have little to do with actual intelligence once you get past a certain point.
Title: Re: Quit law school and re-apply?
Post by: Matthies on November 27, 2008, 05:37:23 AM
Thanks guys.  I actually went to this school with the intent to transfer.  I know, it's stupid, as I'm learning that the grades are such a crapshoot.  But I did it because I was pretty sure I could.  And I know I have the intelligence to be at a T15-T25 school, which is where I wanted to be before I started law school.  I'm now at a Midwestern State school.  It's just not a good fit in terms of location (I've been living in this state for a few years now, and have not had good experiences) and activities.  If I finish my first year, do mediocre on the exams, logically it would make sense to stay for the last two years because the first year is the hardest.  I'm not willing to do that. So it's either transfer (which isn't a guarantee), or drop out now. 

The whole semester I've been obsessing about these two options to the extent that I haven't been focusing on my coursework t the extent that I need to.  Yeah, I know, not smart but that's just how miserable it's been
.

It sounds to me your overly concerned about the pedigree of the law school you go to rather than being a lawyer. If being a lawyer and studying the law is not number one on your priority list then I tend to think you would just find another set of reasons at your new school to not put the effort behind it. If you donít want to be a lawyer regardless of where you go to school then donít put yourself through this hell. Go do something you will enjoy.
Title: Re: Quit law school and re-apply?
Post by: Dr. Balsenschaft on November 27, 2008, 07:34:12 AM
Drop out.  The less attorneys the better (for me).
Title: Re: Quit law school and re-apply?
Post by: jacy85 on November 27, 2008, 08:25:29 PM
Thanks guys.  I actually went to this school with the intent to transfer.  I know, it's stupid, as I'm learning that the grades are such a crapshoot.  But I did it because I was pretty sure I could.  And I know I have the intelligence to be at a T15-T25 school, which is where I wanted to be before I started law school.  I'm now at a Midwestern State school.  It's just not a good fit in terms of location (I've been living in this state for a few years now, and have not had good experiences) and activities.  If I finish my first year, do mediocre on the exams, logically it would make sense to stay for the last two years because the first year is the hardest.  I'm not willing to do that. So it's either transfer (which isn't a guarantee), or drop out now. 

The whole semester I've been obsessing about these two options to the extent that I haven't been focusing on my coursework t the extent that I need to.  Yeah, I know, not smart but that's just how miserable it's been
.

It sounds to me your overly concerned about the pedigree of the law school you go to rather than being a lawyer. If being a lawyer and studying the law is not number one on your priority list then I tend to think you would just find another set of reasons at your new school to not put the effort behind it. If you donít want to be a lawyer regardless of where you go to school then donít put yourself through this hell. Go do something you will enjoy.

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Quit law school and re-apply?
Post by: "Legapp" Stands for "Legal Application" on December 03, 2008, 09:17:32 AM
And I know I have the intelligence to be at a T15-T25 school, which is where I wanted to be before I started law school.... If I finish my first year, do mediocre on the exams, logically it would make sense to stay for the last two years because the first year is the hardest. 

First, I know quite a few highly intelligent people who went to lower-ranked schools.  If you're holding yourself above you classmates, it's probably difficult for you to make friends there.  These connections are part of what makes LS bearable--and, for many of us, enjoyable.

Secondly, it doesn't make sense "logically" to stay put if you're miserable.  I'm a third-year, and it's plenty of work (although you can elect to take it easier if you wish).  If you don't like your state school, and don't want to work in that state, it absolutely does NOT make sense to stay.  If you're at a lower-ranked school, your degree will still have regional appeal... but it won't be national.  You should transfer to a school in the state where you wish to practice, regardless of whether it falls into the arbitrary "T15-25" range. 
Title: Re: Quit law school and re-apply?
Post by: harryreasoner on December 05, 2008, 10:56:27 AM
We need more information about your specific dislikes to analyze whether it's a question of not liking LS or not liking YOUR LS.  If it's the latter, you should work your a** off to do well on your finals.... then get to work on your transfer apps. 

Transferring is nearly impossible, and law school is what you make it.  If you can't find something to like about the one you are at you probably won't like any. 
Title: Re: Quit law school and re-apply?
Post by: PSUDSL08 on December 05, 2008, 05:07:44 PM
Thanks guys.  I actually went to this school with the intent to transfer.  I know, it's stupid, as I'm learning that the grades are such a crapshoot.  But I did it because I was pretty sure I could.  And I know I have the intelligence to be at a T15-T25 school, which is where I wanted to be before I started law school.  I'm now at a Midwestern State school.  It's just not a good fit in terms of location (I've been living in this state for a few years now, and have not had good experiences) and activities.  If I finish my first year, do mediocre on the exams, logically it would make sense to stay for the last two years because the first year is the hardest.  I'm not willing to do that. So it's either transfer (which isn't a guarantee), or drop out now. 

The whole semester I've been obsessing about these two options to the extent that I haven't been focusing on my coursework t the extent that I need to.  Yeah, I know, not smart but that's just how miserable it's been.

I don't think its stupid to attend a school with the intention of transferring. I feel for you because I also attended a midwest school that wasn't a good fit for me, and had every intention of getting out of there from the day I set foot on campus. But I think the idea of dropping out, trying to find a meaningful job in this economy, and reapplying with what will become an extremely competitive applicant pool isn't a prudent idea unless you are unsure that you want to practice law. Not to mention, you'll be throwing away a year's worth of tuition.

Assuming you're at a T2/T3 school, you can make a lateral transfer if you're in the top half of your class. And if you're as intelligent as you claim to be, you will find a way to push yourself into the top half of your class if you're determined to do so.