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Current Law Students / Leave of Absence from law school
« on: May 04, 2010, 04:38:02 PM »
hi everyone,

does anyone know how much time a law school gives for a leave of absence? 


Current Law Students / policy question on exam
« on: April 24, 2010, 08:02:17 PM »
Hi everyone

My professors like to give policy questions on exams; and i'm just wondering what is the  best way to answer a policy question? One example would be some hypothetical legislation and you are supposed to comment onthis legislation using policy arguments. Is there a specific formual i should follow for these policy questions?


Current Law Students / Re: Fuzzy Math
« on: April 17, 2010, 08:11:08 AM »
that's probably the average of the 5 people who actually reported. The school can just drop the other 150 people or so. It's true misrepresentation.

Job Search / do employers ever call applicants to reject them?
« on: April 16, 2010, 07:28:03 PM »
this is probably a strange question. I got a message on my phone from this employer I interviewed with except they didn't tell me anything in the voice mail except to tell me to call them back. It's the weekend so I'll call them back next week. I wonder if they will reject me when I call them back. Does anyone know the answer to my question?

Current Law Students / Re: Ph.D after law school?
« on: April 12, 2010, 07:46:09 PM »
Thanks everyone for your advice!

To the last poster, a Pharm.D is not a Ph.D, which means it's a professional degree, it teaches you how to dispense drugs and does not teach you the research or the science behind the molecular mechanisms of these molecules. Of course, a pharmacist must understand basic organic chemistry (I have many friends who went into pharmacy years ago; we were all in science undergrad together). But pharmacy is a profession, it's the service industry rather than research and development industry.  A Ph.D is more technical and you learn all there is to know about mechanisms; so when it comes to drug patents and you get asked technical questions as a lawyer, you will know how to respond.

Thanks everyone! 

Current Law Students / Re: Ph.D after law school?
« on: April 12, 2010, 04:21:17 PM »
ultimately, i want to use both my scientific knowledge and legal expertise; i would like to work for a drug company eventually as in-house counsel but before i get there, i need some law firm experience. But in order to get into a law, i need a Ph.D.

Current Law Students / Ph.D after law school?
« on: April 12, 2010, 07:26:36 AM »
I am a 2L in law school. I am currently very unhappy with the job market given my skills and credentials. I am wondering what your take is on going to a Ph.D program after law school. I plan to do a Ph.D in a physical science to upgrade my skill so I can be more marketable in the future.  I already have a master's degree in a hard core science but it has not improved my employment chances in any way, shape or form. I am in a school in the 40's in the DC area which is a very cut-throat market and I simply do not know if I can compete with all the Ph.Ds out there at this point.   

Please advise.

Job Search / class of 2011 employment outlook
« on: April 06, 2010, 05:41:38 PM »
Hi everyone; I hope I've posted in the right section. This question is for those graduating in the class of 2011, no matter what law school you are at. We are rising 3Ls.  Can somebody please give me an honest picture of what the employment prospects are for this graduating class? I know you are all still students but I'm sure somebody out there knows more than I do.  I am a 2L right now at a top 50 law school.  There are people I know who have multiple job offers for this summer at law firms (I am not sure which ones) and those people who can barely land unpaid internships. For those people without a firm job this summer, what are chances something will come up in late summer or Fall of 2010 that will lead to something at graduation? I am asking because I am seriously questioning where law school is going for me. I am a 2L right now on my school law review with median grades (not spectacular, just middle of the road student)and I came to law school seeking a patent law career, but since none of the firms I wanted are hiring (either that or they say I don't have enough experience), I question what I am doing in law school. I have a Master's degree in biochemistry and molecular biology and I do not really feel there is anything out there for me in the legal field. What does everyone think? I would appreciate some response.

I really don't suggest coming to the U.S for law school unless you get into a top law school. Kids everywhere are having trouble landing employment in this economy. If you can stay home in Canada, just try to get into any law school in Canada.

Job Search / 2L seeking advice on patent career
« on: April 02, 2010, 07:38:36 PM »
Hi everyone

I currently attend a T1 school in the DC area; I am on law review with median grades. I have a B.Sc and an M.Sc in biochemistry and molecular genetics.  I feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place right now. Here I explain. I worked very hard in graduate school earning an M.Sc in an area of molecular biology (I suppose not considered to be a hot area of research) where I learned a lot of techniques and new developments, however I cannot convince the patent attorneys to offer me an interview because they keep insisting I don't have a Ph.D (so an M.Sc is less solid); so my career in patent law is pretty much dead at this point.  People are not kidding when they say most patent attorneys in bio have earned at least a Ph.D (if not, they've had at least 10 years of industry experience). That's the rock. The hard place is that since I have a science resume, I cannot convince employers in the other sectors that I have the experience and background for these other areas.  I feel like I am stuck with a worthless science degree as well as a worthless J.D. I want to finish this J.D and go back to a Ph.D (to specialize in a more practical area like organic chemistry that helps in drug development). Can somebody give me some advice on my problem? Is the right option? The only science people I know who are getting job offers or at least making it to the interview stage are the people with an engineering degree and if not, somebody with years of industry experience. Either the hard core science people or 10 years of work experience. I feel like law school was so poorly planned; maybe I should have gotten more experience working or at least earning a Ph.D. Do you guys just advise that I finish law school and go do a Ph.D?  I would appreciate advice.

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