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The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread

Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3500 on: May 28, 2009, 09:09:18 AM »
I graduated from an accredited foreign university that doesn't do the GPA system. My grades were not very good and I suspect any computed GPA will be plain awful. LSAT score is 171 and I have my MBA in Finance with Honours. I'm over 30, married, female and a URM.

How much could my UG transcript affect me? What are my chances of getting into a T1 school?


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Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3501 on: May 28, 2009, 03:08:30 PM »
You'll probably get into a T1.  Even if your grades were to translate into a 2.x, you'd probably still get into a T30.  That said, it's difficult to be more precise without some sort of GPA conversion.

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Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3502 on: June 10, 2009, 10:09:21 AM »
Ok, so I'm one of those who F%^& Up my GPA. I went from a high school over-achiever, 1300 SAT 3.8 GPA, to a college loser. I currently have a 2.4, and have a year and a half left of undergrad, I should be able to raise my GPA to atleast a 2.7 by the time I apply. I attend a state flagship university, the Univerisity of Georgia, and really wants to stay in Georgia from law school. I am taking the LSAT in September. I have taken a few timed practice test and scored an average of 160. I am hoping to improve my score to above 165 by the time I take the real test.

I have a few EC but nothing super. Ran Track my first 2 years, Health Committee Board Member, Literary Society Member, about to start volunteering. I had an internship with an insurance company working 20 hours a weeks, plus another another part-time job. I now work full-time with the insurance company for the summer, and will continue working with them part time once the school year starts again.

I am applying to just about every law school in Georgia and want to know what are my chances at.
In State:
1.Emory
2.Georgia State
3.University of Georgia
4.Mercer

I REALLY want to go to Emory Law School, but they are ranked T20, and so I don't my chances are that good. I Georgia State is my second choice because I can live with my parents and save money. UGA has a nice program so I really wouldn't mind stay there even though I did horrible undergrad.

Out of State:
1.Howard

I really have no interest in going out of state but I need options just in cause I don't get in a school in georgia. Do you guys have any suggestion for other out of state schools

Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3503 on: June 17, 2009, 10:58:58 PM »
You've got a decent chance to get into some of those schools. You will be a lock at Howard if you get a 160, even if your GPA is low. I'm somewhat in the same boat. I'm an AA male. I have a 3.15 GPA, I've been out of undergrad for five years where I served in Iraq and Afghanistan as a US army pathfinder. (which is a soft that should help me out alot) and I have and LSAT of 163. I am hoping (praying really) for Harvard, although I know I have no shot. my secong pick is Georgetown and I'm applying to a bunch of other T-14's as well as Howard.

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Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3504 on: June 19, 2009, 03:05:24 PM »
Harvard isn't out of the question for you.

Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3505 on: June 20, 2009, 08:41:18 PM »
Here is the breakdown:

AA Male
UG-Business, May 2004: 2.8 (HBCU)
MBA, Dec 2008: 3.8 (HBCU)
Practice LSAT: 155 range

I am an ex-drug addict and drug dealer.  During the second semester of my freshman year of college I was arrested on campus and charged with Felony possession w/intent, to sell, deliver, and manufacture marijuana, and Misdemeanor possession of drug paraphernalia.  Facing 5 years in prison, I took a plea deal, pleading guilty to the Misdemeanor charge and the Felony charge was dismissed.  I was sentenced to 1 year probation and community service, which I completed.  In addition, I was eventually suspended from school for one year. During a long suspension process I was permitted to continue to go to class and to make a long story short, by the time my suspension was handed down I had completed my freshman year.  I was able to transfer to my degree granting institution for the beginning of my sophomore year without missing any school.

Although I learned my lesson about selling drugs, I continued to use them.  My UGPA suffered as a result.  To be honest, I did not study at all.  My main focus was getting high.  My troubles with the law did not end.  A month after graduating college, and a week before I was to start my new job, I was arrested for Misdemeanor possession of marijuana.  I hit rock bottom.  This charge was eventually dismissed, but if I wanted anything in life, I needed to stop getting high. I did, I'll be clean and sober 5 years this month. 

After 3 years in corporate, I decided to get my MBA.   I excelled, summered at a Fortune 500 in corporate Finance and graduated Beta Gamma Sigma (top 20% of class).  After graduation, I accepted an offer with a Fortune 300.  Over the next 2 years, I will be completing a rotational Executive Leadership Development Program. 2 years, 2 rotations.  My current rotation is in the Global M&A group.  My next rotation will be in the Global Corporate Finance group.

I want to go to law school after I complete the program.  Working towards entering law school in the fall of 2011.  The schools that are currently on my list:

Columbia
NYU
Howard
Villanova
Temple
Cardozo
Fordham

I posted all this to ask, do I have a chance at any of these schools? What LSAT will I need to have a chance?  How much will my criminal history hurt me?  Will my MBA and/or grad GPA be considered?  Any other schools I should consider?

Any thoughts would be helpful.

Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3506 on: June 21, 2009, 03:30:55 AM »
I'm afraid that your criminal history will limit some of your options. Not so much for where you go to law school (although even that could certainly be affected), but more for where you can actually take the BAR and practice. What I would encourage you to do is look up the BAR regulations for various states and see which states have the least stringent rules on felonies and other convictions.
Also, If your Undergrad GPA is only 2.8 (although your MBA will help you) you need to get much much higher then a 155 on the LSAT to have any real chance at Columbia and NYU . My brother went to Howard undergrad, got a 3.45 GPA and a 157 LSAT and got denied at both Duke and Georgetown (He's a black male as well). He's since graduated from UNC law. I say that to say top schools are looking for black males with a 160 plus, period. The issue is there are only about 50 black males that score a 165+ every year, so there is a small pool to chose from. Focus on your LSAT man, and try to pull it in the 165 range.
I'm also applying to enter in fall 2011. I have a 163 now and I am retaking to try and crack 167. See you around bro, that's the best advice I can give you.

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Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3507 on: June 21, 2009, 08:22:50 AM »
I say that to say top schools are looking for black males with a 160 plus, period.

Not if your GPA is high enough.

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The issue is there are only about 50 black males that score a 165+ every year, so there is a small pool to chose from.

Which is why they have to dip down further.

Anyway, I agree that the LSAT should be the OP's main focus.  Turn the drug stuff into a good personal statement.  Since you have only one misdemeanor conviction and no felony convictions, being admitted to a state's bar shouldn't be impossible.

Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3508 on: June 22, 2009, 11:54:18 AM »
Thank you tache1 and A. for the advice.  I agree that I should strive for a strong LSAT score.  tache1, what type of LSAT preparation enabled you to crack 160?  I know this question has been asked a million times but what is the best LSAT prep course?, Testmasters?, Powerscore? 

A., I should focus my PS on my struggle with drugs and overcoming addiction?  Good idea.  I was thinking more of an addendum, no?

Assuming I score in my current practice LSAT range, Columbia and NYU are both stretches to say the least, but what about the other schools on my list?

tache1, since graduating from UNC, what has your brother been doing with his JD?

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Re: The Official BLSD "What Are My Chances?/Where Should I Apply?" Thread
« Reply #3509 on: June 22, 2009, 04:04:14 PM »
A., I should focus my PS on my struggle with drugs and overcoming addiction?  Good idea.  I was thinking more of an addendum, no?

I would go with a PS so that you have more room to paint a full picture.  Use lots of imagery...make the reader see and feel what you were going through.

Addenda are supposed to be short and for making a (usually) vain attempt to explain away things.  Saying "I got bad grades b/c I was addicted to drugs" won't help you much.