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Law Preview - Yes or No?

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Law Preview - Yes or No?
« on: April 30, 2008, 12:39:41 PM »
I'm interested to find out if anyone used Law Preview (www.lawpreview.com) prior to law school.  If you used this program, do you feel that it helped you prepare for (do better in) law school?

I am coming to law school with an undergraduate background in Biology, and I (IMHO) have very little experience with the law/political science.  I am used to studying genetics and plants.  Based on your experience, will this program help me attune to the study of law?

Any help would be much appreciated.  I will do my best to pass on any information that you can provide.

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Re: Law Preview - Yes or No?
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2008, 01:31:30 PM »
waste of time and money.  You'd be surprised, but with your UG background, you'll probably do well at learning the rules/tests that you need to succeed in 1L exams (I'd put money on you doing better than most poli-sci majors, as that doesn't really help one in law school).  Better investment is good study aids for classes in which you are less confident (my favorite are the E&E series, but everyone has their own preference).


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Re: Law Preview - Yes or No?
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2008, 01:32:13 PM »
Law preview is a very bad idea

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Re: Law Preview - Yes or No?
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2008, 05:52:56 PM »
If you have a couple of grand to waste you can finance my post-grad trip to Amsterdam. Heck you can even come too. I gaurantee that getting high in Amsterdam with me will be more valuable to you in the long run of law school than Law Preview.

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Re: Law Preview - Yes or No?
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2008, 06:38:04 PM »
So I think Law Preview is overpriced, but I was wondering what you guys have to say about the fact that the average Law Preview student ends up 20.7%ile in their 1L class according to a survey.

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Re: Law Preview - Yes or No?
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2008, 07:28:03 PM »
Law preview is a very bad idea

Personal Experience?

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Re: Law Preview - Yes or No?
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2008, 07:54:52 PM »
So I think Law Preview is overpriced, but I was wondering what you guys have to say about the fact that the average Law Preview student ends up 20.7%ile in their 1L class according to a survey.

Mainly has to do with self-selection. If you're a study freak who's a perfectionist, you're likely to do better in law school, and these are also the types of people who would want to take a Law Preview course.

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Re: Law Preview - Yes or No?
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2008, 09:05:16 PM »
So I think Law Preview is overpriced, but I was wondering what you guys have to say about the fact that the average Law Preview student ends up 20.7%ile in their 1L class according to a survey.

correlation, not causation.  The super motivated types that kill themselves with studying and do decently in law school are the same type that would drop a wad of cash for a useless pre-law school class in the first place.  If you take law school seriously and work hard, whether you did Law Preview won't be the reason for your success.  That, and the same reason that recent law grad salary surveys are so high: self-selection.  Those that do well disproportionately respond to the survey.

Also, was it a survey made by law preview?  If it wasn't a truly independent survey, I'd be skeptical.   

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Re: Law Preview - Yes or No?
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2008, 09:22:36 PM »
no.  law school is like going into a cold lake.  1) you can take law preview and slowly wade in though, in the end, you know you're going to be just as cold or 2) you can just jump in and deal with it.  But really, I know a couple people who did it and I don't think it worked out so well.

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Re: Law Preview - Yes or No?
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2008, 05:31:52 AM »
Law preview is a waste of money.  Everything they teach you can get MUCH cheaper.

Here's what they teach, according to the website:

First, they give you an overview of the main courses you take as a 1L (contracts, torts, etc.).  You want an overview of torts?  You don't have to pay a grand for it; you can get it for free by going to a library or bookstore and sitting and flipping through an Examples or Explanations.  Or for a really small, one paragraph summary, you can read Law School Confidential.  They give you a paragraph blurb about all the classes.  And I bet some people think having this overview will really give them a boost, help them keep the forest in view when they're learning the trees and all that stuff.  No, it won't.  The nature of 1L, and learning to think the way you're supposed to means no matter what, you spend some time wandering through the trees, learning the individual concepts, and then pulling it together later in the semester.  It's life, it's how things work for 99% of us, and a day long "preview" of con law isn't going to change that.

Second, they teach you a test taking method.  Want a proven test taking method?  Pick up LEEWS.  You can get it used on ebay, but even if you buy it new, it's much cheaper than law preview.  And yes, I know some people don't like LEEWS, but you're going to find people who don't like law preview's method either, I'm sure.  In fact, looking at the website, the outline of their exam method sounds very much like LEEWS anyway. So I'd rather pay $150 for something I don't like than $1000.

Third, looks like they try to teach you about case briefing, outlining, the socratic method, etc.  Most of that stuff isn't difficult.  You get the hang of briefing within a week or two (along w/ everyone else - this isn't an advantage).  Outlining isn't hard.  You get an old one, look at it, and them make one yourself.  Socratic method?  You watch someone else go through it on day 1 of class (or you suffer through it), and that's it.  Not rocket science.  And what goes on in class has 0 to do with your grade.  So you can crash and burn every day in class, and do well on the final.  And finally, you really want to know about all this stuff, go check out Law School Confidential from the library, or get it used on Half.com, or buy it new from a book store (all cheaper than $1000), and you'll have all this fun information.

So no, save your money.  Go on vacation (maybe with Budlaw), or keep the money in the bank for emergencies, or use it to pay off student loan interest this year.