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Early Decision = No Advantage?

Re: Early Decision = No Advantage?
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2007, 07:40:42 PM »
I'm a little confused. NYU's site said something to the effect that there's no benefit in applying under early decision, and Columbia says essentially the same thing. Is it possible they say such things as a PR move? Or is it likely that it is true that there is no real benefit here?

Also, where can I find the acceptance rates for Early Decision vs. Regular Decision for NYU and Columbia?

Thanks,
Matt

Re: Early Decision = No Advantage?
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2007, 08:43:35 PM »
I think you really need to look at LSN and gauge how much "looser" admissions are according to each school. I strongly believe applying ED is a smart move if you are a borderline applicant. Why? I think the ED pool is generally a little weaker than the RD pool, because applicants with auto-admit numbers are less likely to choose a binding commitment when they can have scholarship options at other schools. Many people who do apply ED have numbers that make them a likely waitlist candidate in the spring, so they are hoping that ED will give them an extra boost. Like another poster said, this can help them later on if they are deferred. The school will know they are the applicant's top choice, and does not have to be concerned about him or her choosing to attend somewhere else if admitted.

As for the "official line" that schools give, I'm convinced that this is just a PR move. I don't think any school will ever admit that it is potentially easier to get into their school by applying ED.

Re: Early Decision = No Advantage?
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2007, 09:25:10 PM »
Yes, but aren't most schools that offer binding ED placing these applicants in the same boat as regular decision applicants?

That sounds like it should be true, but that doesn't explain why the average numbers for accepted ED applicants each year seem to be lower than accepted RD applicants. Here's the rundown for a few schools I picked off the top of my head. The numbers are taken from last year's cycle:

Virgina
ED: 3.54 GPA, 166.5 LSAT
RD: 3.75 GPA, 171.9 LSAT

Michigan
ED: 3.51 GPA, 167.3 LSAT
RD: 3.72 GPA, 171.5 LSAT

Columbia
ED: 3.56 GPA, 171.8 LSAT
RD: 3.78 GPA, 173.5 LSAT

NYU
ED: 3.71 GPA, 167 LSAT
RD: 3.76 GPA, 172.8 LSAT

Chicago
ED: 3.65 GPA, 171.3 LSAT
RD: 3.74 GPA, 172.9 LSAT

The ED sample sizes on LSN are so tiny that the average ED numbers may not be very reliable, but there's still a definite trend. Finally, I know anecdotal evidence is useless...but I really doubt that I would be heading to Michigan next year if I was not an ED applicant.


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Re: Early Decision = No Advantage?
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2007, 09:30:44 PM »
I agree with Joyce's comment that there's definitely some intangible advantage to applying under a binding ED program, even if just to get on the school's radar showing your commitment. Remember, however, that the averages for RD acceptees at a school like Michigan, for instance, will be significantly pulled up by the 174+ LSAT scorers who, in all likelihood, will not end up going to Michigan....even though I think that's crazy!!!  ;D

Re: Early Decision = No Advantage?
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2007, 10:23:20 PM »
all things considered, i would probably apply regular over early, especially if i was borderline.

both for the reasons joyce gave, and the fact that borderline applicants going early usually receive deferrals as opposed to waitlists for regular applicants.  and, while it probably depends a lot on the school, i'd say receiving a deferral is generally more favorable than a waitlist.

Re: Early Decision = No Advantage?
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2007, 12:53:34 PM »
all things considered, i would probably apply regular over early, especially if i was borderline.

both for the reasons joyce gave, and the fact that borderline applicants going early usually receive deferrals as opposed to waitlists for regular applicants.  and, while it probably depends a lot on the school, i'd say receiving a deferral is generally more favorable than a waitlist.

Then you mean early over regular if you were borderline?

Re: Early Decision = No Advantage?
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2007, 08:43:22 PM »
uhh yeah.. that's what i meant.

turns out i can't write, lol

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Re: Early Decision = No Advantage?
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2007, 09:50:54 PM »
I applied ED to Penn because I KNEW that I wanted to go there regardless of scholarship.  Some may say my stats are low for their RD (3.85, 167, Masters degree [musicology] 4.0), but I didn't do it to boost my chances.  I just said "screw it" and applied ED to the school I actually love.

Or am I an idiot, and my scores are really LOW for RD??  I don;t know... lol

But yeah, ED is the way to go for borderline, but also if you really want to go somewhere.  It shows interest = good.