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Buying a Notebook Computer for Law School? The Q and A thread

Re: Buying a Notebook Computer for Law School? The Q and A thread
« Reply #790 on: May 06, 2007, 08:42:46 PM »
I believe Michigan, for example, is specifically telling new students NOT to get Vista.

Same with USC. Vista makes me mad - it is so trying to copy mac, it's not even funny.

Soon the Microsoft people will be mad when they find out that Max OS X Leopard is even better than Vista. It's good to leave copy cats in the dust.  8)

We have to wait an extra few months for Leopard, though... >:(

No, it will likely come out in early June during the developers conference. That's only one month from now. I've been telling my family to hold off their computer purchases until the new OS comes out. It will likely include new computers as well.

http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/

You think leopard will be out in June?  The mac site says Oct...it'd be really great if it came out in June and I could get the mac and not worry about boot camp being in beta on tiger for CLS.

Buy the Mac at the end of the summer, they'll probably offer a free upgrade to 10.5 when it comes out by then. Also, since it is coming out in October, you'll be good to go before exams (which is really all you need Boot Camp for).

can't buy at the *end* of summer...orientation is 8/13  and i would ideally get my comp b4 that so i can get used to it/fiddle around with it.

i'm gonna contact apple about that anyways and see what they say.

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Re: Buying a Notebook Computer for Law School? The Q and A thread
« Reply #791 on: May 06, 2007, 09:48:12 PM »
I believe Michigan, for example, is specifically telling new students NOT to get Vista.

Same with USC. Vista makes me mad - it is so trying to copy mac, it's not even funny.

Soon the Microsoft people will be mad when they find out that Max OS X Leopard is even better than Vista. It's good to leave copy cats in the dust.  8)

We have to wait an extra few months for Leopard, though... >:(

No, it will likely come out in early June during the developers conference. That's only one month from now. I've been telling my family to hold off their computer purchases until the new OS comes out. It will likely include new computers as well.

http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/

You think leopard will be out in June?  The mac site says Oct...it'd be really great if it came out in June and I could get the mac and not worry about boot camp being in beta on tiger for CLS.

Buy the Mac at the end of the summer, they'll probably offer a free upgrade to 10.5 when it comes out by then. Also, since it is coming out in October, you'll be good to go before exams (which is really all you need Boot Camp for).

can't buy at the *end* of summer...orientation is 8/13  and i would ideally get my comp b4 that so i can get used to it/fiddle around with it.

i'm gonna contact apple about that anyways and see what they say.

My law school said not to get a mac, so I have to get a yucky pc.  :P

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Re: Buying a Notebook Computer for Law School? The Q and A thread
« Reply #792 on: May 06, 2007, 11:16:19 PM »
A little advice for anyone thinking of buying an IBM Thinkpad for school next year.  I bought one before my 1L year and have had nothing but problems with it.  I realize this is far off the norm for Thinkpads but although I've had some hardware related problems, the biggest problem has been their customer service.  For instance, I've been without my computer for 4 weeks as of tomorrow because they're morons.  They sent me the box, fixed my computer and attempted to mail it back to me.  After I wasn't home the first 2x DHL tried to deliver, they allowed me to change the address that it was being sent to so I could have it sent to my parents' house.  I had to go through IBM to do this and they assured me it would go to the right address.  A week later they called to verify my address b/c they had yet again tried to send it to my apartment and it had been sent back to them in Tennessee.  Then a week after that I finally called them and asked them where the hell it was, they got DHL on the phone (AGAIN) and said sure we'll send it out.  We'll see.  I hate them.  Word to the wise:  if you get one and have a problem with it, just freaking chuck it.  It's not worth the aggravation of dealing with their customer service idiots.

That's why I paid $365 for 4 years of complete care and at home service at Dell. Another good option would have been Apple since they don't break down often and if they do you can always bring it to their Apple store. The main reason why I got a Dell was because it allowed me to get a decently pimped out system for a relatively low price with a warranty that would guarantee it for 4 years no matter what. I also like to play video games so I needed a good system, not that I'll be doing that during law school. So far I've been very impressed with Dell because there have been no problems or breakdowns. I did have to buy ZoneAlarm Security Suite to protect myself from virus's, spyware, and the like.

I have the home service warranty, but when they diagnosed it over the phone they said it was something that they would have to do at their service center and I would have to send it to them.  The first problem (after my friend spilled coffee on it) also had to be dealt with at their place.  When the system board broke down (the second time) they actually came out to fix it at my house.  I was prepared when I bought it, and Thinkpads rarely have problems.  I have a lemon, and on top of that, really bad customer service.

Hmmmm....I agree that the customer service people at Lenovo are a PITA to deal with. I pretty much ended up giving my X41 tablet to a family member after I got fed up with its performance related issues. I have a Macbook Pro now and am MUCH happier.

What kind of Thinkpad did you have?

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Re: Buying a Notebook Computer for Law School? The Q and A thread
« Reply #793 on: May 07, 2007, 05:17:42 AM »
I have the home service warranty, but when they diagnosed it over the phone they said it was something that they would have to do at their service center and I would have to send it to them.  The first problem (after my friend spilled coffee on it) also had to be dealt with at their place.  When the system board broke down (the second time) they actually came out to fix it at my house.  I was prepared when I bought it, and Thinkpads rarely have problems.  I have a lemon, and on top of that, really bad customer service.

So what are you using now? Do you have a backup? I was thinking of getting an iMac as a backup computer and using my Dell in class and during finals. I wonder if that's a good idea. It's looking better and better by the minute.

I've been using my sister's computer for the last month.  Luckily my parents only live an hour away so I was able to go down there and pick it up without too much trouble.  It's a Dell Inspiron 5100 that I got in my senior year of college in 2003.  It works better than my IBM.

Re: Buying a Notebook Computer for Law School? The Q and A thread
« Reply #794 on: May 07, 2007, 08:53:42 AM »
If somebody has experience running windows off of a mac is it just as quick as it would be on a PC or is it considerably slower.

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Re: Buying a Notebook Computer for Law School? The Q and A thread
« Reply #795 on: May 07, 2007, 08:56:15 AM »
If somebody has experience running windows off of a mac is it just as quick as it would be on a PC or is it considerably slower.

Depends on how you run Windows.  If using the newer Intel Macs, Windows will run just like you were running it on a PC-Compatible computer.

If you use VirtualPC with a PPC based Mac, things will get slow.

For more info, just read some previous posts from this thread.

Re: Buying a Notebook Computer for Law School? The Q and A thread
« Reply #796 on: May 07, 2007, 09:16:01 AM »
A little advice for anyone thinking of buying an IBM Thinkpad for school next year.  I bought one before my 1L year and have had nothing but problems with it.  I realize this is far off the norm for Thinkpads but although I've had some hardware related problems, the biggest problem has been their customer service.  For instance, I've been without my computer for 4 weeks as of tomorrow because they're morons.  They sent me the box, fixed my computer and attempted to mail it back to me.  After I wasn't home the first 2x DHL tried to deliver, they allowed me to change the address that it was being sent to so I could have it sent to my parents' house.  I had to go through IBM to do this and they assured me it would go to the right address.  A week later they called to verify my address b/c they had yet again tried to send it to my apartment and it had been sent back to them in Tennessee.  Then a week after that I finally called them and asked them where the hell it was, they got DHL on the phone (AGAIN) and said sure we'll send it out.  We'll see.  I hate them.  Word to the wise:  if you get one and have a problem with it, just freaking chuck it.  It's not worth the aggravation of dealing with their customer service idiots.

That's why I paid $365 for 4 years of complete care and at home service at Dell. Another good option would have been Apple since they don't break down often and if they do you can always bring it to their Apple store. The main reason why I got a Dell was because it allowed me to get a decently pimped out system for a relatively low price with a warranty that would guarantee it for 4 years no matter what. I also like to play video games so I needed a good system, not that I'll be doing that during law school. So far I've been very impressed with Dell because there have been no problems or breakdowns. I did have to buy ZoneAlarm Security Suite to protect myself from virus's, spyware, and the like.

I have the home service warranty, but when they diagnosed it over the phone they said it was something that they would have to do at their service center and I would have to send it to them.  The first problem (after my friend spilled coffee on it) also had to be dealt with at their place.  When the system board broke down (the second time) they actually came out to fix it at my house.  I was prepared when I bought it, and Thinkpads rarely have problems.  I have a lemon, and on top of that, really bad customer service.

Hate to be a jerk, but how much of the technical problems are Lenovo's fault? I don't think you can call your computer a lemon once coffee's been spilled on it... it's not exactly product tested against that. Who knows the extent of the damage?

As for customer service, I hear you. As a Dell owner, I've had tons of horror stories.

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Re: Buying a Notebook Computer for Law School? The Q and A thread
« Reply #797 on: May 08, 2007, 02:21:46 PM »
A little advice for anyone thinking of buying an IBM Thinkpad for school next year.  I bought one before my 1L year and have had nothing but problems with it.  I realize this is far off the norm for Thinkpads but although I've had some hardware related problems, the biggest problem has been their customer service.  For instance, I've been without my computer for 4 weeks as of tomorrow because they're morons.  They sent me the box, fixed my computer and attempted to mail it back to me.  After I wasn't home the first 2x DHL tried to deliver, they allowed me to change the address that it was being sent to so I could have it sent to my parents' house.  I had to go through IBM to do this and they assured me it would go to the right address.  A week later they called to verify my address b/c they had yet again tried to send it to my apartment and it had been sent back to them in Tennessee.  Then a week after that I finally called them and asked them where the hell it was, they got DHL on the phone (AGAIN) and said sure we'll send it out.  We'll see.  I hate them.  Word to the wise:  if you get one and have a problem with it, just freaking chuck it.  It's not worth the aggravation of dealing with their customer service idiots.

That's why I paid $365 for 4 years of complete care and at home service at Dell. Another good option would have been Apple since they don't break down often and if they do you can always bring it to their Apple store. The main reason why I got a Dell was because it allowed me to get a decently pimped out system for a relatively low price with a warranty that would guarantee it for 4 years no matter what. I also like to play video games so I needed a good system, not that I'll be doing that during law school. So far I've been very impressed with Dell because there have been no problems or breakdowns. I did have to buy ZoneAlarm Security Suite to protect myself from virus's, spyware, and the like.

I have the home service warranty, but when they diagnosed it over the phone they said it was something that they would have to do at their service center and I would have to send it to them.  The first problem (after my friend spilled coffee on it) also had to be dealt with at their place.  When the system board broke down (the second time) they actually came out to fix it at my house.  I was prepared when I bought it, and Thinkpads rarely have problems.  I have a lemon, and on top of that, really bad customer service.

Hmmmm....I agree that the customer service people at Lenovo are a PITA to deal with. I pretty much ended up giving my X41 tablet to a family member after I got fed up with its performance related issues. I have a Macbook Pro now and am MUCH happier.

What kind of Thinkpad did you have?

Oingo

I have an R52, which I just got back yesterday.  Out of curiosity, anyone know what a Planar Card is?  Apparently they replaced it.  Again.  So far its running pretty well, but a small (ok big) part of me hopes it has more problems over the summer so I can justify getting something new.

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Re: Buying a Notebook Computer for Law School? The Q and A thread
« Reply #798 on: May 08, 2007, 03:07:06 PM »
If somebody has experience running windows off of a mac is it just as quick as it would be on a PC or is it considerably slower.

If you have an intel based mac and are using parallels the experience is very satisfactory - in fact the virtusl machine actually boots up in about 15 secs, much less than any other windows based system I have ever had. Performance while in windows is not different than bootcamp - the only limitation being games (cannot utilize GPU through any virtual machine I know of).

check out this link.

http://www.macworld.com/2007/04/features/windows_parallels/index.php

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