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Aspen Examples & Explanations

Aspen Examples & Explanations
« on: February 26, 2005, 09:49:01 AM »
I've heard those are the best of the study guides to read before 1L if you want to get an idea of the subjects. Can anybody confirm this? Are people looking into stuff like that before classes start? Thanks!

LordofLight

Re: Aspen Examples & Explanations
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2005, 10:07:48 AM »
I've got the EEs for Torts, Contracts, CivPro, and Property. The Torts and CivPro are by one author, Joseph Glannon, and they are both excellent. Glannon really knows the subjects and he's got a unique sense of humor. The Torts book has a great section on taking exams at the end..really shows you what a law prof is looking for in an exam. The examples are wonderfully useful to develop the kind of analysis lawyers use. I recommend actually working through the examples and then comparing them to his explanations. I highly recommend them. Unfortunately they don't have a crim law book, as far as I know. I bought the crim book by John Delaney, but it really sucks.


Re: Aspen Examples & Explanations
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2005, 11:29:48 AM »
Very cool. Did you have any prior legal knowledge? I have never read any of this stuff, would it still be understandable?

Thanks!

LordofLight

Re: Aspen Examples & Explanations
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2005, 11:47:45 AM »
They are both totally understandable by the layman-soon-be-student. For instance Civil Procedure is a whole mess of horribly complicated rules but Glannon starts slow, issue by issue, and you accumulate it as you go. In fact, Glannon talks about how as a student the thing he hated about CivPro was that the problems were too difficult, and he states further that some of those problems are still beyond him (he went to harvard if that matters).

Very cool. Did you have any prior legal knowledge? I have never read any of this stuff, would it still be understandable?

Thanks!

BigTex

Re: Aspen Examples & Explanations
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2005, 11:49:07 AM »
Very cool. Did you have any prior legal knowledge? I have never read any of this stuff, would it still be understandable?

yes. it's easy to read and understand. As PLS2 points out, the study of law is not "the life of the mind".

Re: Aspen Examples & Explanations
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2005, 11:51:10 AM »
Cool, thanks. Have you looked at any of the comparable stuy aids (Gilbert's, Emmanuels etc)? Any reason for choosing the EE ones?

BigTex

Re: Aspen Examples & Explanations
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2005, 11:53:29 AM »
Cool, thanks. Have you looked at any of the comparable stuy aids (Gilbert's, Emmanuels etc)? Any reason for choosing the EE ones?

Actually, i don't think they're really comparable. Commercial outlines are meant to supplement one's reading of a case book. The purpose of the E&E primers is to sort of give you the lay of the land before your classes start. The advice i have heard from various sources is: prep before school w/ the primers, save the commercial outlines for when classes start.

But to each his own.

seu2002

Re: Aspen Examples & Explanations
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2005, 11:58:57 AM »
what is the exact name of those primers?  i feel like going to a bookstore anyway, so i might as well have something to look for.

BigTex

Re: Aspen Examples & Explanations
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2005, 12:04:45 PM »
what is the exact name of those primers?  i feel like going to a bookstore anyway, so i might as well have something to look for.

http://www.barristerbooks.com/law-book-10017/law-IdS-000DA2-DD0C750

it's a series.

lil_token

Re: Aspen Examples & Explanations
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2005, 12:23:31 PM »
E and E is great for Civ Pro, but it not as helpful for other topics.  The Torts one did not sufficiently address the topics you can expect to see in your classes.  Although Glannon is generally good, this one was a miss for him.

When you get to law school, it is often a good idea to ask the professor which supplements you should use for his or her class.  Often, they know of supplements that were written by the casebook author or those that address the subject matter from the same angle as the professor.  This is very important.  For example, Torts E and E is very black letter law oriented, whereas many Torts classes are extremely policy-heavy. 

Also, before you start wasting your time reading about the topics that you THINK you will be taking your first year, call the school and find out.  Seriously -- curricula DO vary.