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Is this Really the Case?

Re: Is this Really the Case?
« Reply #70 on: April 06, 2008, 01:45:02 PM »

You didn't say he announced it in class.

If luck were such a huge factor, there wouldn't be students at the end of 1L who got straight A's both 1st and 2nd semester. I've heard the exam strategies from top 10% on this board and elsewhere. It's not conventional wisdom. If it truly is mostly (or all) luck I'll come back in a year and admit I was wrong, but if my experience proves otherwise you can believe I'll come back and troll any thread on this topic with my 'personal anecdotes' which you claim don't mean anything.

And in the future, respond to what you know I intended to write please. Don't find one grammatical error and then proclaim you are holier than thou because you check posts to make sure you used 'always, sometimes, most of the time, never' correctly. It's an internet discussion board, not the LSAT. Slight exaggerations aren't a big deal.

1. There can be students who get straight A's throughout law school even if luck is a major factor (although I suspect you'll find that this is more rare than you'd think). I don't argue that law school grades are 100% luck. I would disagree with that statement. But I do think that it's a substantial factor. Occasionally you run into people who, quite simply, are legal geniuses. BUT not all of those legal geniuses will get perfect grades, either - maybe they'll have a bad day! Maybe something terrible will happen! Maybe they'll just have a bad exam! OR maybe they'll be fortunate enough to not have anything bad happen, and get the right exam questions, etc! As I said before: there are a number of things that you can do to insulate yourself against many of the "luck" factors, but anything can happen, and there are a number of things that are simply beyond everyone's control.

2. Where did I say 'personal anecdotes' don't mean anything? I mean, I've said that in response to other issues, but certainly not in this thread. I don't think. I'm pretty sure that I just pointed out that the way you emphasized and credited anecdotal evidence was biased/lopsided. That said, your individual experience probably isn't going to actually "prove" anything. If you have a hard time understanding why, maybe someone nicer will explain it to you.

3. I am holier than thou. Also, you gave no indication that you meant anything other than "never." Also, it's good to get in the habit of not being a lazy @#!* in the way you make your arguments. "It's just a message board" is a bull excuse of lazy and/or not so bright people who don't like being called out on their laziness and/or not so brightness. (Also, for the record, I am often lazy. But I own up to it when I am. I'm always brilliant, though.)

4. I saw what you said before you edited. I will; thank you for your concern. However, I find you obnoxious during all phases of my menstrual cycle, so unfortunately you can't blame your inadequacies on my natural hormonal fluctuations.

Re: Is this Really the Case?
« Reply #71 on: April 06, 2008, 01:48:11 PM »

You didn't say he announced it in class.

If luck were such a huge factor, there wouldn't be students at the end of 1L who got straight A's both 1st and 2nd semester. I've heard the exam strategies from top 10% on this board and elsewhere. It's not conventional wisdom. If it truly is mostly (or all) luck I'll come back in a year and admit I was wrong, but if my experience proves otherwise you can believe I'll come back and troll any thread on this topic with my 'personal anecdotes' which you claim don't mean anything.

And in the future, respond to what you know I intended to write please. Don't find one grammatical error and then proclaim you are holier than thou because you check posts to make sure you used 'always, sometimes, most of the time, never' correctly. It's an internet discussion board, not the LSAT. Slight exaggerations aren't a big deal.

1. There can be students who get straight A's throughout law school even if luck is a major factor (although I suspect you'll find that this is more rare than you'd think). I don't argue that law school grades are 100% luck. I would disagree with that statement. But I do think that it's a substantial factor. Occasionally you run into people who, quite simply, are legal geniuses. BUT not all of those legal geniuses will get perfect grades, either - maybe they'll have a bad day! Maybe something terrible will happen! Maybe they'll just have a bad exam! OR maybe they'll be fortunate enough to not have anything bad happen, and get the right exam questions, etc! As I said before: there are a number of things that you can do to insulate yourself against many of the "luck" factors, but anything can happen, and there are a number of things that are simply beyond everyone's control.

2. Where did I say 'personal anecdotes' don't mean anything? I mean, I've said that in response to other issues, but certainly not in this thread. I don't think. I'm pretty sure that I just pointed out that the way you emphasized and credited anecdotal evidence was biased/lopsided. That said, your individual experience probably isn't going to actually "prove" anything. If you have a hard time understanding why, maybe someone nicer will explain it to you.

3. I am holier than thou. Also, you gave no indication that you meant anything other than "never." Also, it's good to get in the habit of not being a lazy @#!* in the way you make your arguments. "It's just a message board" is a bull excuse of lazy and/or not so bright people who don't like being called out on their laziness and/or not so brightness. (Also, for the record, I am often lazy. But I own up to it when I am. I'm always brilliant, though.)

4. I saw what you said before you edited. I will; thank you for your concern. However, I find you obnoxious during all phases of my menstrual cycle, so unfortunately you can't blame your inadequacies on my natural hormonal fluctuations.

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Re: Is this Really the Case?
« Reply #72 on: April 06, 2008, 01:49:37 PM »

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Re: Is this Really the Case?
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Re: Is this Really the Case?
« Reply #74 on: April 06, 2008, 02:46:54 PM »
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Re: Is this Really the Case?
« Reply #75 on: April 06, 2008, 03:00:44 PM »
I started grinding my teeth at "watching sports" and my hand actually clenched at "woman joke."

You're a f-ing a-hole, friend. If you're Cady's opposite, she deserves a f-ing parade in her honor.

Re: Is this Really the Case?
« Reply #76 on: April 06, 2008, 03:06:33 PM »
Can Conan be the grand marshal?

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Re: Is this Really the Case?
« Reply #77 on: April 06, 2008, 03:12:28 PM »
Call me a cynic but Conan stopped being funny years ago. 

Or maybe its that I'm just in a bad mood if I'm ever up that late during the week anymore...

That being said, I'd love to have him MC any parade I might be attending.  I think he'd do well at that.

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Re: Is this Really the Case?
« Reply #78 on: April 06, 2008, 03:13:08 PM »
I love know-it-all 0Ls. 

I especially love thinking of all the hard lessons they're going to learn over the next 13 months.


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Re: Is this Really the Case?
« Reply #79 on: April 06, 2008, 03:16:17 PM »
I never thought I'd meet someone the polar opposite of me (granted it's online)... let me guess more things... you don't get people who are obsessed with watching sports, you think Conan O'Brien is annoying, you read for fun, you don't like rap or metal, you find it suitable to make fun of other people but get defensive when people take shots at you (especially if it's a woman joke, like 'why are you out of the kitchen' or something like that), and you can't possibly understand how people can have a different point of view than you (short of mental retardation).

So the polar opposite of you is someone who reads for fun? That's interesting.