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Current Law Students / Re: North Carolina Bar Exam
« on: September 01, 2008, 03:07:28 PM »
For the record, I passed!

Current Law Students / I Passed the Bar!
« on: September 01, 2008, 02:21:38 PM »
I passed the bar (North Carolina)!  I have heard that NC gets its results out quicker than many other states.  I did it with Barbri books but without the Barbri classes - that's a cool 3 grand in my pocket!  Anyone else heard?

Current Law Students / Re: Clerkship Cover Letters
« on: August 21, 2008, 07:25:19 PM »
I sent out probably 8 letters to judges and got 3 interviews. I don't know if my cover letter had any impact, positive or negative, but the format was basically:

Please consider my application for a clerkship in your chambers, beginning in 2008.

Short paragraph (3 sentences) on why I want the clerkship, including interests specific to the court if possible.

Short paragraph on why I'm competitive - one sentence citing some stuff in list form from my resume which I think is applicable to being a good clerk (i.e. I interned with a judge before, etc) and another sentence again with a list of academic highlights (I'm in the top X%, on Blah Blah Review). 

Short logistical paragraph -- inlcuded with this letter you should find X; our career services should send you Y.   

Final Thanks and request for interview.

Current Law Students / Re: North Carolina Bar Exam
« on: August 01, 2008, 08:56:22 AM »
I can't recall off the top of my head now which was the other one I had totally seen before - if you'll help me brainstorm the essays, I'll remember.

Here are some it WASN'T

The PR one about Alice? starting a practice.
The marijuana in a dorm room one, with the RA and cop.
The motion to dismiss one about professional malpractice
The mortgage one about the moving house.
The adverse possession one about the Tenants in Common on the old Homeplace.
The double hearsay which I can remember nothing else about - do you?
The stealing deacon one (btw my torts were larceny, embezzlement, and fraud - felt like I was missing some there).

Current Law Students / Poll: How useful was BarBri?
« on: July 31, 2008, 04:49:39 PM »
Love to see these results.

Current Law Students / North Carolina Bar Exam
« on: July 31, 2008, 10:32:02 AM »
I write this mostly as a record for future takers, but also welcome comments and thoughts from others.

First, I had heard that NC recycles essay fact patterns somewhat, but I was surprised that two of the twelve were VERY familiar - one, about employing a vase-maker or vase-painter was 98% the same as I had seen before.  I had only looked at essays while studying in two locations -- the Barbri book-o-essays, and the released tests from the NCBLE for the last 3 years.  So one of those places or both was where I saw the essays I saw on the actual bar.  I bet if I had gone further back in time on released bar essays, I would have seen more familiar material.

So my tip is -- learn those essays, and get the released answers from your law school (UNC has them) for the ones not on the NCBLE site anymore.

Current Law Students / Re: Bother with Clerking
« on: July 31, 2008, 10:25:13 AM »
Entirely depends on geography.

There will be federal judges in out of the way places who would love to interview you.

I saw repostings from some federal judges around here who obviously didn't get the level of applicant they wanted the first time or through the Symplicity system, who are in places like New Bern, NC.

Current Law Students / Should Law Schools intterview applicants?
« on: April 20, 2008, 07:03:02 PM »
Now that you've been in law school and seen some of the anti-socials, do you think me think that law school is bizarre in that there is no admissions interview, whereas other professional schools like MBAs and MDs do interview?  I mean, we're a profession of communicators.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UNC vs. Cardozo - help
« on: April 20, 2008, 07:01:23 PM »
This is entirely a question of regional preference.  In both cases, if you start in the south and then move to the north, or vice versa, you will have an easy time with networking one time and a hard time the other time.  I guess I wuold rather have a "hard time" in the NY market because it's so large, it seems like you could always find something, so that would weigh in favor of UNC and the south.

Whoops, forgot to check back before now.

Admisions has been in semi-disaster mode at the least since I was applying (I'm a 3L).  I have heard that UNC tends to get 4000 applications, and 3000 are for the 25% out of state, which works out to about 60 actual seats (of course more no doubt are accepted but don't matriculate.)  So out of state is hard anyways.  On the other hand I hear that they are going to be expanding the class sizes so that should help.

The professors, library, tech people -- everything that actually matters here is great.  Admissions stinks and has always stunk, and hopefully will get its act together soon.  There was much complaining about career services in recent years for being a like-disaster and the school fired a lot of people, hired replacements plus more people, and has generally put more focus on it - so the model for improvement exists.  I think if all the stuff UNC has done in the last year or so doesn't rebound our ranking (raised a lot of money, hired more professors, expanded career services, planning for a whole new complex to be built in 5 years or so) then you'll see more extreme measures but I guess its hard to motivate an admissions office when they have the luxury of so many applicants for the spots.  I just hope it doesn't take a dip in quality from this rankings dip to make admissions customer friendly.

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