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Re: why obama win
« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2008, 08:34:36 AM »
this question need not be asked.

TimMitchell

Re: why obama win
« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2008, 08:44:27 AM »
Hmm... I just can't see why you don't like Mr Astley  ???

Re: why obama win
« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2008, 10:33:23 AM »
shocking, the NY times is rallying for Obama  ::). Ask any of your economics professors who they think has better economic policy, McCain or Obama.

oh noez, NYTimes r librul!  Some1 tell Fox!

Obama wants certain tax cuts to expire, which is not a decision in his hands if he's President instead of Senator.  Obama wants rebates and/or tax cuts for the "middle class," which is likewise not a decision in his hands if he's President instead of Senator.  What it comes down to is this: the President has very little power over actual economic measures other than to set an optimistic tone.  Obama will thump McCain in that contest.

edit to add:

McCain, from what I've read, just wants to keep cutting taxes, especially for the richest and for investments, which is an economic policy that makes good sense under certain circumstances.  When Reagan came into office, it made good sense.  However, despite what Republicans would like us to believe, cutting taxes is not always the best choice.  At some point, a cut fails to generate economic activity to pay for itself.  Economists will argue about where that point is, of course.  If we're to the "left" of that point (visually, on a graph), a tax cut has to be weighed and considered just like any other economic policy.

::prepares for lashing::

TimMitchell

Re: why obama win
« Reply #33 on: June 10, 2008, 11:18:20 AM »
shocking, the NY times is rallying for Obama  ::). Ask any of your economics professors who they think has better economic policy, McCain or Obama.

oh noez, NYTimes r librul!  Some1 tell Fox!

Obama wants certain tax cuts to expire, which is not a decision in his hands if he's President instead of Senator.  Obama wants rebates and/or tax cuts for the "middle class," which is likewise not a decision in his hands if he's President instead of Senator.  What it comes down to is this: the President has very little power over actual economic measures other than to set an optimistic tone.  Obama will thump McCain in that contest.

edit to add:

McCain, from what I've read, just wants to keep cutting taxes, especially for the richest and for investments, which is an economic policy that makes good sense under certain circumstances.  When Reagan came into office, it made good sense.  However, despite what Republicans would like us to believe, cutting taxes is not always the best choice.  At some point, a cut fails to generate economic activity to pay for itself.  Economists will argue about where that point is, of course.  If we're to the "left" of that point (visually, on a graph), a tax cut has to be weighed and considered just like any other economic policy.

::prepares for lashing::

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Although the decision is in the hands of the senate, the president does dictate policy to some degree and influences the senate (if he is good, or he can influence the senate in the opposite direction like the current Prez). However, many of Obama's other policies are economically bankrupt, such as his new health care plans. Moreover, generally speaking Democrats and the left wing support more social programs that are a burden on tax payers. One of McCains huge talking points is his oppoisition and record of stopping government spending and pork projects.

http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/VoteCenter?location=S&page=congScorecard links to the Citizens Against Government Waste, a nonprofit that advocates against wasteful government spending. That link is to an unbaised chart that ranks Senators based on their voting record for bills they consider wasteful. From a score of 0(very wasteful) to 100(did not vote for any of the wasteful bills) Obama scores a 30% while McCain scores a 95%. McCains record and rehetoric proves he will defeat Obama on the economic front.

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Re: why obama win
« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2008, 11:19:37 AM »
like, like gump's record has improved economy.

not gonna work, sparky.

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