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Government Law Jobs

Government Law Jobs
« on: March 28, 2006, 10:14:46 AM »
Does anyone know some types of jobs you can get in the federal government with a law degree? Specifically State Dept or CIA?

Also, do these agencies have summer jobs for law students?

Thanks for your help.

Re: Government Law Jobs
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2006, 11:33:03 AM »
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Re: Government Law Jobs
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2006, 03:18:51 PM »
if you didn't go to a top ten school, forget the state dept. but you could try DOJ, or if you have a science degree and are a woman, try NRA (the nuke people, not the rifle people).  Also, FBI has a summer intern program that would be a good idea to try as it increases your chance of getting in with them when finished with law school, and if you get in with the fbi, cia is possibility.  also, the NSA is hiring now

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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2006, 05:54:52 PM »
silver-

is the state dept. extremely prestigious and competitive in who it selects? i was thinking of trying for a PT externship there next year, but if i'm not at a t10 school and not in the very top of my class at a t20, should i not bother applying? any ideas?

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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2006, 03:35:24 PM »
state dept is very selective so you really need to backdoor your way in through another agency.  no yale, no state

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Re: Government Law Jobs
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2006, 03:50:14 PM »
Silver... I hope you mean as a lawyer for state, and even then you are probably off base.  You sure as hell don't have to have gone to yale to get a good job with the state dept.  Most foreign service officers have masters, but that isn't even required.  All that is required is passing the written and oral assessments.

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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2006, 07:41:59 PM »
What kind of background checks are involved with the DOJ?  Do you have to have been squeaky clean, never arrested at all, only seen drugs in the movies, etc.?  Does the whole department screen similary to the FBI?

Because umm... a friend of mine wanted to know.

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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2006, 10:13:51 PM »
What kind of background checks are involved with the DOJ?  Do you have to have been squeaky clean, never arrested at all, only seen drugs in the movies, etc.?  Does the whole department screen similary to the FBI?

Because umm... a friend of mine wanted to know.

I think the standards are the same.  Here's some information for your "friend."

"Withdrawal of An Offer of Employment: The Department can withdraw an offer of employment if the investigation process reveals information that precludes a security and/or suitability clearance. Common problems that arise in background investigations that may result in the withdrawal of an offer include a history of unlawful use of drugs[/i], failure to fulfill tax obligations, failure to comply with financial obligations, abuse of alcohol, or misrepresentation on the security forms. The Office of Attorney Recruitment and Management (OARM) can advise candidates who receive offers of employment on issues regarding potential suitability problems. Information on who to contact is included in the formal offer and security packet issued by OARM. "

Here's the link: http://www.justice.gov/oarm/arm/hp/hpconditionsofemployment.htm

Oh, and because you asked:

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Re: Government Law Jobs
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2006, 04:41:38 AM »
What kind of background checks are involved with the DOJ?  Do you have to have been squeaky clean, never arrested at all, only seen drugs in the movies, etc.?  Does the whole department screen similary to the FBI?

Because umm... a friend of mine wanted to know.

You don't have to be clean, just honest.  I had a handful (gross understatement) of "youthful indescretions) and I had absolutely no problems during my clearance process.  However, honesty is key. 

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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2006, 05:05:40 AM »
What kind of background checks are involved with the DOJ?  Do you have to have been squeaky clean, never arrested at all, only seen drugs in the movies, etc.?  Does the whole department screen similary to the FBI?

Because umm... a friend of mine wanted to know.

You don't have to be clean, just honest.  I had a handful (gross understatement) of "youthful indescretions) and I had absolutely no problems during my clearance process.  However, honesty is key. 

Yes, I suppose it could depend on whether the drug use was definitely in the past and if you have a clean record afterwards.  I'm assuming, though, that such use has to be outside of the seven year interval they give for background checks?  That's what I've been able to find on the DOJ website, at least.

In any case, Erapitt is right.  However matters stand, hiding it will only make things worse.