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Women enter with identical grades to their male counterparts but leave with lower ones; experience a greater negative shift in their desire to use their degrees in the public interest; and are especially alienated by the teaching methods, particularly Socratic teaching, at law school. What becomes apparent is a poignant story about the insidious effects of gendered stratification in law school "socialization" -- the educational strategies of law school sustain hierarchy, legitimate inequity in the name of merit, and yield serious, adverse consequences for many women. Legal education assaults you as a woman. Other women are assaulted but do not even know it, and there are still others, be they women law students or women legal academics, who actually help to bolster the battery of other women.

Please explain. Your intriguing hypothesis begs for support by means of example, or at least further rhetoric. I don't see how law school treats women differently than men.

How can you be so blind?  It is so OBVIOUS, if you have a vagina, and your professor puts you on the spot in front of the class or if you don't score as well as your peers, then it just plain hurts worse.  Whereas if you have a penis, you are invincible to the meritocracy of law school.  Get a clue!

Current Law Students / Re: how to write an opening statement?????
« on: February 23, 2008, 09:54:53 AM »
Be careful with the "personal anecdote."  That can backfire pretty easily.
I've never heard anyone use a personal anecdote unless he/she was on a fictional TV legal drama.
That strikes me as an odd strategy.
I do agree w/sir_scott that the OP should take trial ad.

It is a common technique, that I stole from an experienced trial atty, who probably stole if from someone else.  I typically mention my 2 yr old son and/or my wife.  Relating some brief anecdote [if interesting and adding to your credibility] to the facts (ex.  My wife X takes our 20 month old son, Y, to a story reading at the library every Tues. morning, the library is about 40 ft across the street from where the defendant collided into the parked car and sped off without leaving any information...hit/skip].  Obviously, use the descriptive fact technique in the above post.  But, if you feel comfortable, then try it.  If you don't then don't.  The technique, used properly, basically communicates that this is a real person (as opposed to just an atty), and that someone can stand him enough to be with him and have his children. 

Current Law Students / Re: how to write an opening statement?????
« on: February 22, 2008, 02:54:22 PM »
Take Trial Ad I at your school. 

Alternately, the book, Basic Trial Advocacy, by Peter Murray is decent.

Few opening statement tips:
1.  avoid argument
2.  use descriptive facts [Not "it was a cold night and a long walk for Louie", but "His cheeks were chapped by the time Louie had walked the four blocks back to his apartment, fortunately his wife had hot tea at the table for him..."
3.  simple visual aids, if relevant
4.  tell a story [beginning, middle, end] - like you care about it
5.  weave in some personal anecdote about you, if it adds to your credibility and people would find it interesting [open statement is first opportunity to sell the factfinder on your credibility]

Current Law Students / Re: Becoming a Prosecutor or Public Defender
« on: February 22, 2008, 12:49:13 PM »

One question, how can you want to be a prosecutor OR a public defender?  They are so different, and seem to appeal to distinctively different personalities.  You aren't sure which you'd want to be?  I find that odd.

At the County pros. office I worked at, there were 3 former Pub. Defenders, conversely there are many private defenders that formerly prosecuted.  It makes sense to me that an attorney could and would want to do either.  Both sides are beneficial to "the people" - Enforcing the law & protecting constitutional rights.

Current Law Students / Re: Property Help - Any suggestions
« on: February 18, 2008, 04:04:11 PM »

Current Law Students / Re: Intramural team names
« on: February 18, 2008, 08:34:28 AM »
sharon peters

but it is likely that other students put in comparable effort, and they too are bright people.

I dunno.  I feel like a lot of people are sitting in the library right now feeling awful smug about how hard they're working without realizing that some of the people they think are slackers are beating them in the rankings.  Like I said above... study smart, not hard. 

For those of us that are not geniuses, success comes by hard work.  8 hours a day studying as a first semester 1L is not absurd, it is what I (and many others) did as a 1L, and in fact is on par w/my school's recommendation. 

For those of you lucky enough to be as brilliant as peaches, God bless you, us "regulars" envy you. 

By the way your post reads, you do not think that you did anything "wrong."  And, I would have to agree.  Also, you got good results.  Your grades indicate that you have achieved greater than mere competency in the subject matter.  There also appears to be a correlation between your effort and your results, which is far more than many of your peers have experienced after their first semester.  Congratulations.

Why then are you not #1 in your class?  After all, you put in a great deal of time and effort.  I can't say for sure, but it is likely that other students put in comparable effort, and they too are bright people. 

Current Law Students / Re: MPRE - BarBri?
« on: February 12, 2008, 02:29:09 PM »
I used the barbri MPRE book, and went to the video lecture.  I promise you that the video is a waste, but the book is good.  I used it exclusively, and got at 141.  However, the whole deal was free.  Although there was a retail price, at my school barbri gave the book/lecture [MPRE] for free - ask your rep?  My understanding was that all of Ohio [my state] had free barbri MPRE.

Current Law Students / Re: Dismissed From School
« on: February 10, 2008, 05:34:02 AM »
read your school's handbook to find out how/if a dismissed student can get back in

also, the school dismissed the student because the school was convinced that the person lacked competency to pass a bar exam/be an attorney - so, being dismissed might have been what was best

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