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Is abortion safer than childbirth?

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Re: Is abortion safer than childbirth?
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2007, 10:00:54 PM »
You have to agree that all abortions produce a death.

Inasmuch as male masturbation or the female menstrual cycle produces a death.

hth.

I never knew that sperm had a heartbeat, or had brain activity, or little arms and finger buds. Anyone who cannot admit that a fetus is differant than an egg or sperm is lying to themselves. Didn't we all watch that video in Jr High?

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Re: Is abortion safer than childbirth?
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2007, 10:01:01 PM »
You have to agree that all abortions produce a death.

Inasmuch as male masturbation or the female menstrual cycle produces a death.

hth.

It doesn't because a fetus is human (if not a person).

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Re: Is abortion safer than childbirth?
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2007, 10:09:44 PM »
abortion always ends in the murder of a baby. killing = death.

piss off.

You have to agree that all abortions produce a death.

Not in the context of this-- your!-- thread.

Good point.  I should have asked if it is safer for the mother.

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Re: Is abortion safer than childbirth?
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2007, 10:10:13 PM »
EKG of babies heartbeat 18 days after conception. Abortion is the murder of an unborn baby. Half of those murdered are women. It looks like a child after a few weeks, it looks human.

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Re: Is abortion safer than childbirth?
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2007, 10:13:25 PM »
You have to agree that all abortions produce a death.

Inasmuch as male masturbation or the female menstrual cycle produces a death.

hth.

I never knew that sperm had a heartbeat, or had brain activity, or little arms and finger buds. Anyone who cannot admit that a fetus is differant than an egg or sperm is lying to themselves. Didn't we all watch that video in Jr High?

Uh, no.

I didn't go to Pat Robertson Junior High.  

neither did I, it was sex ed, and we saw a sperm enter an egg. then it starts repruducing cells. Next thing you know there is a heart beat 18 days later.

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Re: Is abortion safer than childbirth?
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2007, 10:14:46 PM »

I never knew that sperm had a heartbeat, or had brain activity, or little arms and finger buds. Anyone who cannot admit that a fetus is differant than an egg or sperm is lying to themselves. Didn't we all watch that video in Jr High?

mmmhmmm.  And what's the earliest point in a pregnancy that a viable child might be born?

The new record is 21 weeks:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17304274/site/newsweek/

As science gets better, fetuses start turning into people.

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Re: Is abortion safer than childbirth?
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2007, 10:15:57 PM »
I don't know, but when is the earliest stage we can remove a kangaroo from it's mothers pouch and have it live. If I pull a little kangaroo out of there and squash it, is it not murder. Was'nt Scott Peterson convicted of double homocide?

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Re: Is abortion safer than childbirth?
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2007, 10:21:39 PM »
The new record is 21 weeks:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17304274/site/newsweek/

As science gets better, fetuses start turning into people.

Indeed, 21 weeks is a bit over half a pregnancy; now what are the potentially horrible side effects of being born that premature?  How many babies survive when born that premature?

1. The side effects are not as bad as being dead.

2. This was the first baby and not likely the last.

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Re: Is abortion safer than childbirth?
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2007, 10:22:25 PM »
excuse me.  you can actually have two but it greatly reduces the risk of being able to become pregnant.  3 and your done for sure.  sorry to mix it up but I'm absolutely sure of this now.  the other just didn't seem right.  

Making things up as you go along is fun, but this is absurd.  There are some studies that suggest that abortions -- and especially multiple abortions -- make cervical damage marginally (from 1-15%) more likely than incidental cervical damage in women who have not had abortions, and some kinds of cervical damage lead to infertility.  But no one at Planned Parenthood told you that any number of abortions would prevent future pregnancies.  You know that.  

Quote from: Planned Parenthood - Abortion Risks and Side Effects
Future Pregnancies

Safe, uncomplicated abortion should not affect your ability to have a child in the future. In future pregnancies, it does not

-cause birth defects
-cause premature birth or low infant birth weight
-make ectopic (not in the uterus) pregnancy more likely
-make miscarriage more likely
-make the risk of infant death more likely

Having more than one abortion also should not affect future pregnancies.


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Re: Is abortion safer than childbirth?
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2007, 10:24:01 PM »
Also, at least 99% of abortions happen before this point of putative fetal viability.  And the vast majority (95%) happen in the first trimester.