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Starting with a 138

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Re: Starting with a 138
« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2005, 08:13:34 PM »
ok boys and girls... I did a little digging and found the exact "dsong02" thread... here it is

http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,1285.0.html

He claims to be "dumb" which, I can't really refute since I don't know who he is.  He mentioned in some other thread that his ugpa was something like a 2.6.  In any case, he went from a 153 to a 178 on the actual test, rather impressive.

I can tell you that I myself, although I have yet to take the test, started with an initial diagnostic, completely blind to the lsat, of 144.  My practice test scores are now around 165, but I've also been studying really hard for the past 3 months.  My personal advice would be LGB & LRB, and then lots of actual prep tests.  I never had to work on reading comp, I'm pretty good with that stuff from all my English classes.  I'm not sure how much you can actually get done in 5 weeks though, but I'm sure he can break a 140.

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Re: Starting with a 138
« Reply #61 on: April 29, 2005, 08:32:04 PM »
I don't know about 1 month of studying but if he is a reasonably intelligent person willing to commit a significant amount of time he can hit 170+!  Laugh all you want but my Testmasters instructor tested at a 142 first time and we all know Testmasters people are 99% percentilers.  He got a 171 after a Kaplan (lol) prep course and he said he studied about 20-40 hours a week.

Tell him to study during the summer the summer and take the October exam...no real reason why he shouldn't take the extra time. 

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Re: Starting with a 138
« Reply #62 on: April 29, 2005, 08:44:03 PM »
There are plenty of "reasonably inteligent" people who study their butt off and don't come near a 170.  More than 1% of test takers are very intelligent and study hard, and they don't all get 170+.  Yeah, there is a chance, but it is very presumptuous to say that some guy you don't know can do it.  This scenario is probably less likely than him scoring below 140 with practice, not that either is likely.

Re: Starting with a 138
« Reply #63 on: April 30, 2005, 01:22:13 AM »
I just have to interject before you go for a fiver.


Thanks.   ;)

I was on a roll!

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Re: Starting with a 138
« Reply #64 on: April 30, 2005, 09:54:19 AM »
He can't take in Oct. because that is too late to appy for a military educational extension.



I don't know about 1 month of studying but if he is a reasonably intelligent person willing to commit a significant amount of time he can hit 170+!  Laugh all you want but my Testmasters instructor tested at a 142 first time and we all know Testmasters people are 99% percentilers.  He got a 171 after a Kaplan (lol) prep course and he said he studied about 20-40 hours a week.

Tell him to study during the summer the summer and take the October exam...no real reason why he shouldn't take the extra time. 

On my first practice exam I actually scored a 143 (almost made me rethink this entire process!)...but I ended up scoring a 161 on the real thing (I even scored 164 on the practice test the day before the exam).

What you friend needs is some serious serious discipline...he needs to be studying EVERYDAY RELIGIOUSLY

Does he have real exams? If he hasn't ordered any from LSAC, the books "10 Actual LSAT's" and "10 More Actual LSAT's" will work fine.  He definitely needs both Powerscore bibles.  During the last two weeks, I literally took a practice test everyday.  It's so draining but it's worth it.

I had more time to prep after that first practice test (about 8 weeks) but I think with some hard work he should be able to crack 155 and hopefully 160

Re: Starting with a 138
« Reply #65 on: April 30, 2005, 02:31:41 PM »

We think.


He can't take in Oct. because that is too late to appy for a military educational extension.



I don't know about 1 month of studying but if he is a reasonably intelligent person willing to commit a significant amount of time he can hit 170+!  Laugh all you want but my Testmasters instructor tested at a 142 first time and we all know Testmasters people are 99% percentilers.  He got a 171 after a Kaplan (lol) prep course and he said he studied about 20-40 hours a week.

Tell him to study during the summer the summer and take the October exam...no real reason why he shouldn't take the extra time. 

Re: Starting with a 138
« Reply #66 on: April 30, 2005, 02:37:08 PM »
He can't take in Oct. because that is too late to appy for a military educational extension.



I don't know about 1 month of studying but if he is a reasonably intelligent person willing to commit a significant amount of time he can hit 170+!  Laugh all you want but my Testmasters instructor tested at a 142 first time and we all know Testmasters people are 99% percentilers.  He got a 171 after a Kaplan (lol) prep course and he said he studied about 20-40 hours a week.

Tell him to study during the summer the summer and take the October exam...no real reason why he shouldn't take the extra time. 

On my first practice exam I actually scored a 143 (almost made me rethink this entire process!)...but I ended up scoring a 161 on the real thing (I even scored 164 on the practice test the day before the exam).

What you friend needs is some serious serious discipline...he needs to be studying EVERYDAY RELIGIOUSLY

Does he have real exams? If he hasn't ordered any from LSAC, the books "10 Actual LSAT's" and "10 More Actual LSAT's" will work fine.  He definitely needs both Powerscore bibles.  During the last two weeks, I literally took a practice test everyday.  It's so draining but it's worth it.

I had more time to prep after that first practice test (about 8 weeks) but I think with some hard work he should be able to crack 155 and hopefully 160


Generally good advice, though I think some days off might also be helpful overall.

Also, if he's going to get the books of exams, and only do 20, he should probably skip the first book of "10 Actual", and just do the last 2 books ("10 More", and "Next 10").  Also, he would be best served by doing the most recent individual exams as well, instead of earlier exams.  (I think there are 6 or 7 recent individual exams now available.)

Whatever you do, don't order this stuff from LSAC, which takes forever to deliver.  Express order from Amazon.com (for the books of 10, unless you find them in bookstores) or from Powerscore.com (for the individual exams.)

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Re: Starting with a 138
« Reply #67 on: April 30, 2005, 02:41:09 PM »
How long does it take for LSAC to send the tests?  I have the three books and preptests 42 and 43, but I just ordered the rest on Wed.  They will get here by May 20th or so, right?

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Re: Starting with a 138
« Reply #68 on: April 30, 2005, 07:07:22 PM »
What credentials do you have to say that adderal will help you?

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Re: Starting with a 138
« Reply #69 on: April 30, 2005, 07:12:04 PM »
If you have made it through undergrad w/o it, chances are you don't need it.  Like it helps or something?